Let Google Do It

Matthew Wald of the Times tells us that Google may take a stake in building our energy future, to wit, a backbone undersea transmission cable from Virginia to northern New Jersey.  This would allow offshore wind farms in the Mid Atlantic Bight to hook into the northeastern power grid.

Mr.Wald has more for technophiles and ditchdiggers here.

Comments

[Obstreporous Infidel]

What? no nuclear waste? Hungary is going to get all the energy jobs outsourced from the US.

Free market paradise in Eastern Europe.

[squaredance]

These idiots and their wind farms.

This is a goofy blend of magical and sentimental thinking.

Do they really imagine that "wind power is going to be a substantial energy source.

This is so wasteful. Such hubris. such mindless arrogance

A clear indication that "Computer Science" is not really a science at all.

Google should know better.

[Jim Ryan]

Ha! According to local news radio, local Moveon aficionados are staging a protest here in Charlottesville at our (Albemarle County) GOP HQ/Robert Hurt for Congress HQ at noon, exactly when I do my lunch-hour volunteer shift.

They're going to protest the fact that rich corporations fund Americans for Prosperity.

A spectacular display of self-unawareness awaits me!

Koch money bad, Soros/Big Union money good, I guess. If you're spectacularly self-unaware.

But the local GOP HQ isn't an AFP office... Or is it! As Bob Schieffer put it, "Is that the best you can do?"

I'm guessing about seven college kids and three 50-year-old divorced women in Birkenstocks show up.

[Captain Hate]

As Bob Schieffer put it, "Is that the best you can do?"

When you lose Bob Schieffer it's time to fold up the tents.

[Janet...off the couch & sportin Tea Party chic]

Koch money bad, Soros/Big Union money good,

That would make a good sign.

(50 & in Birkenstocks could describe me!...In 2000, I had neighbors begging me not to waste my vote on Ralph Nader. I'd answer, "Oh don't worry. I'm not gonna vote for Nader." It never occurred to them that I would vote for Bush!)

[Danube of Thought]

Here's the part that caught my eye:

Generating electricity from offshore wind is far more expensive than relying on coal, natural gas or even onshore wind. But energy experts anticipate a growing demand for the offshore turbines to meet state requirements for greater reliance on local renewable energy as a clean alternative to fossil fuels.

If I'm reading that right, the energy will be much more expensive, but states are going to require it anyway.

Minus 14 at Raz today.

[Rick Ballard]

I wonder if the G**gle boys will next start some horse breeding farms to serve our transportation needs.

[Jim Ryan]

Janet, I do acknowledge that Birkenstocks may be comfortable to some people of non-Marxist persuasion, but I pray you will indulge me my little pet stereotype. You do not fit into any stereotype, and you fail to do so in a most agreeable way.

[Obstreporous Infidel]

How expensive is oil?

Sort-term memory good. Long term memory, bad.

[Obstreporous Infidel]

"I wonder if the G**gle boys will next start some horse breeding farms to serve our transportation needs."

Horses will come in handy if the alternative is walking. If Tea-Baggers get their wish to return to the 19th century, horse-and-buggy will return sooner than you think.

[Danube of Thought]

How expensive is oil?

As a source of energy it is far less expensive than a wind farm.

[Old Lurker]

I knew those Buggy Whip shares would pay off eventually, Rick.

Rather than ask the (highly political) price of oil, ask the price of Natural Gas (per last night's thread), and don't forget about the BTU-KWH density of cheap coal. Go ahead...give the Chinese yet another advantage in manufacturing costs by watching them use coal while we do off shore wind and solar.

In the meantime, Ted Kennedy will have to look at the turbines in Nantucket Sound - yes I know you think he's dead, but Harry Reid says otherwise.

[boris]

"less expensive than a wind farm"

You have to realize the troll from Assclownistan actually owns a wind generator. Besides you can't teach calculus to a troll who sez a negative plus a negative equals a positive.

[Dave (in MA)]

Horses will come in handy if the alternative is walking. If Tea-Baggers get their wish to return to the 19th century, horse-and-buggy will return sooner than you think.

If that ever comes to pass, the word on the street is that your mama has a riding crop in her nightstand, so you could borrow that.

[Threadkiller]

Normally I would only post the McClintock ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-kSgNasm1I&feature=channel"> video
. I decided to mix it up a little.

Bankrupt Europe has a lesson for Congress about wind power.

Wiwo...wiwo...wiwo.

The sound floats on the winds of Ka Le, this southernmost tip of Hawaii's Big Island, where Polynesian colonists first landed some 1,500 years ago.

Some say that Ka Le is haunted -- and it is. But it's haunted not by Hawaii's legendary night marchers. The mysterious sounds are "Na leo o Kamaoa"-- the disembodied voices of 37 skeletal wind turbines abandoned to rust on the hundred-acre site of the former Kamaoa Wind Farm.

The voices of Kamaoa cry out their warning as a new batch of colonists, having looted the taxpayers of Spain, Portugal, and Greece, seeks to expand upon their multi-billion-dollar foothold half a world away on the shores of the distant Potomac River. European wind developers are fleeing the EU's expiring wind subsidies, shuttering factories, laying off workers, and leaving billions of Euros of sovereign debt and a continent-wide financial crisis in their wake. But their game is not over. Already they are tapping a new vein of lucre from the taxpayers and ratepayers of the United States.

">http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html"> Wind Energy's Ghosts

[BumperStickerist]

Wind farms at sea?

Don't think of them as "Hurricanes" -

just think of them as "Wind Gushers."

.

[Obstreporous Infidel]

"As a source of energy it is far less expensive than a wind farm."

A tea-bagger's calculus.

[Obstreporous Infidel]

"price of oil, ask the price of Natural Gas (per last night's thread), and don't forget about the BTU-KWH density of cheap coal."

Don't forget nukular(sic)

[Rob Crawford]

'Cleo, stop impersonating people. OI doesn't comment here, he comments at ProteinWisdom.

Pathetic little coward; use your real name for a change. Admit who you are; own up to your "opinions".

[Jim Ryan]

Obstreperous,

I know it hurts that he turned out unexpectedly to be an incompetent narcissist. It was so unexpected! So terribly disappointing! I wish I could make the pain go away, but I can't and you have my sincere sympathy. Perhaps staying away from the news for a couple of years might do it. I do know that saying "teabagger" won't work as an analgesic, but I do hope that at least the balls taste good to you. Some small solace, anyway.

[Pops]

I think Republicans need to embrace the wind farm, BUT, they should also be cautious about the technology. Just to be sure they work right, put a couple of V12 gas engines up there to drive that windmill when there is no breeze.

[Danube of Thought]

"A tea-bagger's calculus."

The facts are well-known and undisputed.

[Dave (in MA)]

nukular(sic)

Why drag Jimmy Carter into this?

[Rick Ballard]

OL,

One has to be right out on the cutting edge of proglodyte stupidity to not understand that a "wind farm" is a Potemkin Village built of cheap plywood veneer sitting in front of a huge gas turbine. They must be planning on selling into urban New York and Connecticut - the dolt density in New Jersey and certainly Virginia just isn't high enough.

[Jim Ryan]

Or possibly increasing your dosage of vodka and percocet would help, cleo. But that only brings on the demons, doesn't it? Dang, nothing will help, will it? I'm so, so sorry, my friend. Perhaps praying? Meditation? A new psychiatrist?

[Obstreporous Infidel]

"Some small solace, anyway."

Projection of mr. peanut balls and his monkey dick.

[Mark Folkestad]

I will be putting up a wind generator at my new island home in Alaska, but I'm under no illusions about its cost. There just is no way that the electrical grid will ever reach my island, and, despite Cleo's lunatic rantings, this particular conservative likes modern conveniences. Even with the aerogenerator and a bank of photovoltaics charging my batteries, I will still have a gasoline generator ready for those periods when it is neither windy nor sunny enough in the temperate rain forest for greenie technology to do the trick. And I will not be apologetic about it.

[Pops]

What I don't get is why does every great idea require so much government funding?

I don't remember the government saying horses are destroying the earth and we need to spend billions to invest in another technology...we had the market place, human ingenuity and drive to do better that came up with the combustion engine and perfect it.

We didn't then have to have tyhe government subsidized the automobile and place all kinds of restrictions on horse users to get them to swicth to cars - it all happened naturally using market forces.

We didn't have the government create Microsoft, or invent electricity, etc.

Now all of the sudden, only the government has good ideas and gee, all their good ideas have to be instituted by force and punishment of law.

If all these ideas are so wonderful, why doesn't Obama and all of his government cronies retire, raise private capital and develop the next great means of transportation, the next energy source, and the next healthy french fry??
Why if they have such great and wonderful ideas, don't they believe the market place will welcome and accept their ideas/products, etc.

If these are such wonderful ideas, why does it allways require force taxation to fund them? Why isn't private capitol banging down their doors to get involved?

[Ignatz]

Northern New Jersey, hmmm.
Connecticut, RI and Massachusets have some pretty big cities. I wonder if there's a reason they wouldn't extend it up to, say, Massachusets, particularly that nice Hyannis Port site.

And speaking of New Jersey, there may be a perfectly good reason for it, but why must a new rail line cross the Hudson through a $10 billion tunnel rather than over a $1 billion bridge?

[BumperStickerist]

I've decided to take the Malcolm X approach to this:

The business end of energy production is an axle spinning magnets inside of copper. Some assembly required.

The front end issue of how to spin the axle - mechanically by using wind or hydro or using steam produced by coal fired, nucular powered, gas fired, trash-fired, caribou-fired - is up for debate.

Produce the energy - by any.means.necessary.

That approach worked for the 17th Century, the 18th, 19th, and 20th Centuries ... it'll work for the 21st.

[Ignatz]

--I will still have a gasoline generator ready for those periods when it is neither windy nor sunny enough in the temperate rain forest for greenie technology to do the trick.--

Is propane service available on the island Mark?

[Ranger]

If these are such wonderful ideas, why does it allways require force taxation to fund them? Why isn't private capitol banging down their doors to get involved?

Posted by: Pops | October 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Because it is not about any of the "good ideas" that are put forward, it is about using the good will and good intentions of people to take their money and line people's pockets. "Green Energy" is the "Affordable Housing" scam of the 21st century.

The people who build these wind farms will get big government grants, then skim a huge commission off the top to set the thing up, and then when it fails (despite very generous government subsidies), the government will step in and take it off their hands while they jet off with their bulging pockets to fill up their off shore bank accounts.

[HE TRUTH IS UTILITY COMPANY EXECUTIVES]

THE TRUSTH IS UTILITY COMPANY EXECUTIVES ARE GO-ALONG CORPORATE TYPES SO THE SCENARIO IS ALWAYS THIS IMO: GREENIES, SUBSIDIZED THRU TAX BRAKES; GOVT HANDOUTS AND ATTYS FEES FORCE STATE UTILITY COMMISSIONS INTO MANDATING CARP LIKE THE AMOUNT OF RENEWABLES USED AND BANS ON NUCLEAR ENERGY AND THE UTILITY COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO COMPLY. (Sorry about the caps). Then when the utility bills inevitably go up, service falters and electricity becomes more irregular, the utility companies take the blame from an angry public which has not ever paid attention.

[Old Lurker]

And if not LP, Mark, take a hard look at diesel instead of gas because it is more forgiving of stale fuel than gasoline units.

[Sue]

WV is now trending back towards the democrat.

[bgates]

Projection of mr. peanut balls

Again, why drag Jimmy Carter into this?

[Ms. Trish]

OT...I just received an email from the Ohio Tea Party Pac with the headline "GOP Supports Harry Reid." The GOP supports Reid???!!!

So I went to the link in the email and it's a WaPo article about a veteran Republican State Senator, Bill Raggio, supporting Reid over Angle, who he defeated two years ago in a tough Republican primary.

[Ranger]

WV is now trending back towards the democrat.

Posted by: Sue | October 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM

Only because the Dem is now running as an anti-Obamacare, anti-Cap and Tax, anti-Card Check Republican.

Expect those numbers to change when the commercials showing how he supported all those ideas a year and a half ago hit the airwaves.

[DebinNC]

RCP has a">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/11/obama_i_sweet_talk_michelle_to_the_music_of_stevie_wonder.html">a video snippet from an internet related bill signing at the WH yesterday with Stevie Wonder on hand. It demonstrates Obama's narcissism so well.

[Old Lurker]

My first political lesson growing up in WV was my Dad showing me how Joe Kennedy was buying the WV electoral votes for JFK. Bobby Byrd was already there a long time, imagine that. Then Rockefeller was allowed to carpet bag his way into the state, and vote after vote went against their own self interests. Supporting Obama after Obama promised to destroy the coal industry was pretty much the perfect example of how they think.

Go figure.

Anything can happen down there.

[Captain Hate]

Why does any donk want Clenis stumping for him? In addition to possibly triggering Megan's Law, he's never helped anybody else get elected including his wife. His message is completely garbled because when he's not trolling for cooter, he's not really in his natural element.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

I really hesitate to ask, but what is "cooter"?

[Ignatz]

Article by John Tamny at RCM on whether we need a Fed. Well worth the read.

[Threadkiller]

Later on Fox.

"Captain Hate & Leary"

[maryrose]

Clinton is like Obama-anyone he stumps for loses.

[Rob Crawford]

I really hesitate to ask, but what is "cooter"?

The context provides all the meaning you need.

[Captain Hate]

Jane I'm risking the wrath of JMH, but here's how the Urban Dictionary used it in a sentence: "Lauren's cooter smelled like an octopus and resembled a bearded axe wound."

[Tom Bowler]

OT - I finally managed to get the full audio of Dr. Colin Blake's speech on the wonders of ObamaCare at the Sturbridge Tea Party. He had some good lines:

Or how about Cuba? Michael Moore loves the Cuban medical system. Did he mention that you have to bring your own bed linens to the hospital in his little movie?

...For god's sake, When Fidel Castro was sick last year they had to fly in equipment and surgeons from Spain. Do you know what surgery he needed? A bowel resection. That's every day surgery in the United States. I can handle bowel surgery in my hospital, and my hospital is slightly smaller than Al Gore's house.

His speech went about about twenty-three minutes including Jane's introduction. LUN

[Threadkiller]

">http://www.cootersplace.com/images/top04.jpg">

">http://www.cootersplace.com/"> Cooters Place!

[Captain Hate]

Great intro Jane and the speech, which I'm listening to now, sounds outstanding.

[narciso]

ah the Urban Dictionary, 'a greater hive of scum and villainy" cannot be found. We've seen the green energy scam down here in S. Fl, which surprise, surprise, ended up nothing of the kind

[Porchlight]

WV is now trending back towards the democrat.

Only in one poll, PPP, who had to change their WV party ID split from 51% D/37% R to 55% D/33% R to produce a 3-point lead for Manchin (Raese had led by 3 in their last poll 3 weeks ago).

I think it's probably tightening but I don't buy those numbers. Rasmussen had Raese up 6 one week ago, 50-44.

[caro]

You do not fit into any stereotype, and you fail to do so in a most agreeable way.

That's our Janet!

[Jack is Back!]

Wind farm, undersea DC transmission line: The fix is in. See the developer's bio. LUN Also the other guy is a former ComEd executive just like Bill Ayres' daddy:)

[Porchlight]

Supporting Obama after Obama promised to destroy the coal industry was pretty much the perfect example of how they think.

WV actually went for McCain in 2008. I hope it holds for this Senate race but the Senate is a tougher nut to crack there.

[Dave (in MA)]

I have to share this.

A guy I know says he put a Charlie Baker sign up on his lawn and his neighbor thought he was putting his house up for sale. "But THIS GUY votes - and has no idea why ...WAIT A MINUTE --
ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE SELLING THEIR HOUSES!".

That BAKER/Tisei Realty must be good!

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

Oh dear, just as I thought.

[Captain Hate]

RCP has a video snippet from an internet related bill signing at the WH yesterday with Stevie Wonder on hand. It demonstrates Obama's narcissism so well.

He never can be graciously selfless in his introductions of others; at least 50% of the verbiage is about him.

[Ignatz]

Here's some more of bubu's moderate muslims declaring war on the US.
Interesting read from Barry Rubin on the new head of the muslim brotherhood.

[Frau Ernst]

Catain, Obamacare will take care of Lauren, won't it?

Jane, you got the real deal with Dr. Blake. We Californians - OK we deserve no better - get The Mad Doctors, that group of alleged-physicians who lobby for a single-payer health care system. They were in my fair town last week giving a performance for the easily confused college folk and one at the community of terminally confused, retired religious lefties. They even stayed at a home down the street from me. It is often hard to remain non-violent.

Cleo = Big Bag of Carp

[narciso]

The new ad against Coons, in the LUN

[JM Hanes]

Ignatz:

"[W]hy must a new rail line cross the Hudson through a $10 billion tunnel rather than over a $1 billion bridge?"

Carbon sequestration!

[Ranger]

And the Obama flailing continues:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/249484/drilling-moratorium-could-be-lifted-soon-daniel-foster>Drilling Moratorium Could Be Lifted Soon

Funny how they are suddenly in a hurry to get this done now that they are 3 weeks away from facing furious voters in the Gulf States. Of course the damage has aready been done, both to the local ecnonomy and to the voters attitudes, but they are desperate enough to do anything at this point.

[Melinda Romanoff]

OL-

You've got mail.

[hit and run]

Hey bgates,I was thinking of putting up your "Are You Smarter Than Barack Obama" bit from the Sunday thread on my blog (since you're too lazy to keep your own blog,and everyone else here loves you so little that they haven't bothered to put it up on theirs) . . . if that'd be ok with you.

[Sue]

Porch,

I keep worrying about WV though. They don't dislike the governor. Just Obama. Raese needs to get busy with a vote for Manchin is a vote for Reid/Pelosi/Obama ad.

[JM Hanes]

The President has serious competition in the hubris run-off:

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, whose agency would have to sign off on the project, has spoken approvingly of wind energy and talked about the possibility of an offshore “backbone.” In a speech this month, he emphasized that the federal waters were “controlled by the secretary,” meaning him

Unfortunately, Salazar is absolutely right. Repealing healthcare is only one part of repealing the powers and authorities the Congress has willingly, irresponsibly, delegated to the Executive Branch. Secretaries are just the top of that "imperial" bureaucratic food chain.

[Dave (in MA)]

Mel. Rom., any more on that 401K seizure hearing? I tried watching the video last night but nodded off. I can't find a transcript. It didn't seem to be directly related to that Ghilarducci kook, though.

[Porchlight]

They don't dislike the governor. Just Obama.

Sue,

Good point. I wish they'd vote for Raese so they can keep Manchin as governor.

[MayBee]

National Review has a preview of Stanley Kurtz's book.

[bgates]

Sure, hit.

They really don't love me, do they? Bastards.

(Are we sure hit isn't James Carville? Because the question, "if the others loved you, why don't they want to steal your stuff" seems familiar.)

[Rick Ballard]

MayBee,

Thanks for the link. I like the way that Kurtz immediately identifies President BOwser's "community organizer" tag as the commie front that it has always been.

Jane is an actual "community organizer", just as the Tea Party is an actual grass roots ground swell. Sooner or later one of the gaggle of credentialed morons posing as journalists is going to come up with the startling (yet completely obvious) observation that the commies are actually being clobbered by real community organizers such as Jane, Janet, Rocco and Jim Ryan.

[Frau Ernst]

Sorry to repeat, but the previous thread seemed to be winding down.

MOVE, indeed. Was the name of the bill a cruel joke? This is a continuing offense in our country. Since Charles "I live off the Public Teat" Schumer was co-author of MOVE, why isn't he out screaming in the microphones?
Clarice, *no* ballot in NY should be counted until the military ballots arrive. If NYC does not get counted, tough carp.

THIS is what the VFW (and the rest of the U.S.citizenry as well) should be fighting.

[JM Hanes]

Sue:

"WV is now trending back towards the democrat."

There may be a huge number of seats that are now "in play," but I think when the votes are in, the final Dem/Republican split is going to be a lot closer than wave enthusiasts are predicting. The gubernatorial prospects look pretty good to me, but local issues play a particularly large role in House elections, something which generic polling doesn't really capture. There are a lot of new faces in the mix, and as unattractive as incumbency may seem to be this year, a lot of voters may well go for the familiar over the "risky" when they actually mark their ballots. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not as optimistic as most.

[harrjf]

bumperstickerist said:

The business end of energy production is an axle spinning magnets inside of copper. Some assembly required.

The front end issue of how to spin the axle - mechanically by using wind or hydro or using steam produced by coal fired, nucular powered, gas fired, trash-fired, caribou-fired - is up for debate.

Simple solution:

A buttered piece of toast when dropped will always land buttered side down. A cat when dropped will always land on its feet. A dropped cat with buttered toast attached to its back will simply spin when released. The engineers can figure out how to hook it up to an axle.

[jimmyk]

The Mad Doctors, that group of alleged-physicians who lobby for a single-payer health care system.

In my experience those tend to be in the 60ish age range, who are more concerned with simplifying their lives than with the future of the industry.

[Threadkiller]

Speaking of power. Here is Ken Salazar not wanting to admit ">http://mcclintock.house.gov/california-water---rep-mcclintock-asks-secretary-salazar-about-the-delta-smelt.shtml"> defeat over the delta smelt and the destruction of central California.

You will see what power can do for an idiot.

[MayBee]

MOVE, indeed. Was the name of the bill a cruel joke? This is a continuing offense in our country. Since Charles "I live off the Public Teat" Schumer was co-author of MOVE, why isn't he out screaming in the microphones?

I want to pass a law against bills with titles that have acronyms that produce words.
DREAM
DISCLOSE
MOVE

It's so desperate.

[narciso]

Did anybody follow any rules at any time, I wonder, in the LUN

[centralcal]

Hi all - at work and haven't kept up with the thread, but I did see this wonderful story at Michelle Malkin's blog about the American man from Colorado who is responsible for drilling the hole that is being used to rescue the Chilean miners.

And, MayBee - I completely agree with you about the naming of bills.

[Old Lurker]

Porch you are right about the final WV outcome in 2008, though the process was close to call until the end. The same cancer was spreading in the coal fields of KY and PA at the same time, but the betting was Byrd would protect them all. Then when, after the elcetion, Byrd came out for the greenies (or someone writing in his name anyway), it started to hit the fan.

[hit and run]

bgates:
Sure, hit.

Cool! Here it is: http://thevimh.blogspot.com/2010/10/are-you-smarter-than-barack-obama.html>Are You Smarter Than Barack Obama?

They really don't love me, do they?

Oh,I disagree. They just don't love you like I love you.

Bastards.

I can't say that I won't not disagree.

Are we sure hit isn't James Carville?

No comment.

[Jim Ryan]

I'm getting a panicky feeling. Have I seen hit and Carville together at the same place and time?!

[Threadkiller]

--"No comment."--

That would make me believe Hit is not Carville.

[Clarice]

I like rick's community organizers vs community organizers shtick.

[MayBee]

Jane is an actual "community organizer", just as the Tea Party is an actual grass roots ground swell. Sooner or later one of the gaggle of credentialed morons posing as journalists is going to come up with the startling (yet completely obvious) observation that the commies are actually being clobbered by real community organizers such as Jane, Janet, Rocco and Jim Ryan.

Let's start the stopwatch.

[Old Lurker]

Now that's just mean, Jim.

[Captain Hate]

Apologies if this has been previously linked; but LUN for another CNN success story

[Captain Hate]

Jane is always so humble that she'd never toot her own horn (well other than to mention her radio show which I've found excellent on the rare times I've been lucky enough to hear it); but I just want to say I really admire the work she's done in organizing the Tea Parties.

[Ranger]

Oh my... Brooks is treading dangerously close to TEA Party territory:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/12/opinion/12brooks.html?_r=1&ref=opinion>The Paralysis of the State

And this in the NYT?

The answer is what Jonathan Rauch of the National Journal once called demosclerosis. Over the past few decades, governments have become entwined in a series of arrangements that drain money from productive uses and direct it toward unproductive ones.

New Jersey can’t afford to build its tunnel, but benefits packages for the state’s employees are 41 percent more expensive than those offered by the average Fortune 500 company. These benefits costs are rising by 16 percent a year...

...Through much of the 20th century, staunch liberals like Franklin Roosevelt opposed public sector unions. George Meany of the A.F.L.-C.I.O. argued that it is “impossible to bargain collectively with government.”

What's next? Cats and dogs living together?

[narciso]

I'm reminded of how Sterling Cooper Draper is melting down on this season of 'Mad Men,' cannibalizing it's previous success, that is the fate of CNN

[Janet...off the couch & sportin Tea Party chic]

For anyone interested -

Sean Bielat: It's Bielat vs. Barney 3! Debate tonight at 10:00 pm on Fox25 News
(Boston) with anchor/moderator Maria Stephanos. You can watch online at http://www.myfoxboston.com/

[centralcal]

Cool - Janet thanks for the debate link.

Hey, fellas - those of you who are Megyn Kelly fans - here is a link you might like.

[Frau Ernst]

"teabagger's calculus"
You can't get a dentist to touch that.

On a serious note, WSJ has an article about Peter Thiel's thesis that technology will bring salvation. It appears from the article that Thiel does not feel the Dems will be part of any salvation.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

A community organizer? Harummph! Thanks for the nice words guys but really, I feel like I have no choice. Sandy Daze's 14 year old told me last year that I had to stay and fight and I took her seriously. And to be honest, this might be the most important thing I have ever done in my life.

And it's not like I don't have help and support from all of you. So get over it.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

"Lauren's cooter smelled like an octopus and resembled a bearded axe wound."

There's a sentence that should win some sort of prize.

[Ignatz]

--A dropped cat with buttered toast attached to its back will simply spin when released.--

LOL.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

HIt,

You have to send that to Insty. I would but he never ever publishes anything I send. But that really has to be in some sort of hall of Fame. Maybe you can get JF to act it out.

[Frau Ernst]

Jane, the video of the Sturbridge Tea Party was beautiful. ::sniff::

[Captain Hate]

There are a lot of new faces in the mix, and as unattractive as incumbency may seem to be this year, a lot of voters may well go for the familiar over the "risky" when they actually mark their ballots. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not as optimistic as most.

According to an ABC poll 85% of all voters are angry about the economy. They've watched in stunned disbelief while this concern has been willfully ignored by the incumbents and it continues to be. Things are much worse than in 94 and we know what a change happened then. I've never seen such a disconnect between the representatives and the governed and can't imagine that many voters consider the incumbents as a safe choice for their future.