Sunday Giants-Rangers Open Thread

OK, this is the World Series matchup football fans have been wiating for - the San Fran Giants versus the Texas Rangers.

Fortunatley there is one bit of trivia that piques our interest (for about a nanosecond) - Texas catcher Bengie Molina had been the Giants catcher until he was traded in July 1 to open the spot for Buster Posey.  Consequently, he can get himself sized for another World Series ring right now.

 

Comments

[peter]

Sized? He's oversized. LUN

[Clarice]

Clarice's Pieces
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/clarices_pieces_fox_and_hens_a.html>Fox and Hens

[Jack is Back!]

First of all, a big shout out to TM for reading the NY Times so the rest of us don't have to.

Second, this is a classic Red v. Blue state confrontation, albeit the Giants having home field advantage under the Selig "what the hell was I thinking" insanity rule of making the All-Star game more important than finishing with the best record in baseball (including inter-league play). Although, I can't remember if Texas or Giants had the most wins, so it could be a wash.

So, I am going out on a limb here and predict the Rangers in 6 games. The 6th being on November 3rd in San Francisco just to put a nice cap on things - the day after a blood-running-in-the-streets election.

Now, for the best guess as to who will throw out the first ball - it being in San Francisco does Obama ring a bell? I hope he does and shows us his "girly-man" push-ball high and outside. Then we can get Rick Perry to pipe one down the middle a few days before election day just to remind everyone who has the stuff and who doesn't.

Of course, the problem with all this is that more people will be watching O'Reilly and Hannity than the WS. Poor Joe Buck - no one to talk to those nights.

And this series will most likely go

[Jack is Back!]

I have no idea how that last line above got there. Paranormal keyboard?

[scott]

Nice wrapup in Piece's Clarice. That Juan Williams thing is still bugging me. His comments about informing his children are telling. The money isn't the issue. I think it will add a little amplitude to the wave. Decent people (voters) have to be bothered by the way NPR fired him.

[Porchlight]

You have to love the red state/blue state, San Fran Nan vs. Rick Perry/George W. Bush, Election 2010 aspect of the Giants vs. Rangers matchup.

I wonder will the media beat this one to death like they beat to death every other World Series "narrative"?

Hmm.

Well at any rate, the Rangers are favored in every way. ;)

[Danube of Thought]

Lee vs. Lincecum in the opener should be quite something.

[Porchlight]

Decent people (voters) have to be bothered by the way NPR fired him.

FWIW, my husband voted for Obama (though his positions on the issues are mostly conservative - he just can't handle the social stigma of voting Republican). He thought the Willams firing was BS.

That said, he is not a particularly highly motivated voter in general, and I'm not going to go out of my way to remind him to vote on Nov. 2nd.

[Danube of Thought]

In the four games the Yankees lost the aggregate score was 31-6.

[Extraneus]

I think this was October surprise was posted already, but I didn't know about the ethics thing.

Alaska Judge Orders Release of Miller's Employment Records

Miller recently acknowledged he was disciplined for violating the ethics policy while working for the borough, but said it was unrelated to his departure from the job.

[Clarice]

Except for the fact that it will be hard for Juan to show damage, he'd have a super case for discriminatory discharge..Think of it--the disparate treatment between him and Nina; the shifting reasons NPR gave for the discharge; the fact that NPR has none or few other black analysts..(It's true he suffered emotional harm but IIRC in D.C. you cannot recover for that without there being economic harm.)

[Janet the tea-vangelist!]

he just can't handle the social stigma of voting Republican)

Dittos with my husband....It is amazing how powerful that is. He did the dirty deed with RINO McCain though. I bet he couldn't believe it himself!

[Porchlight]

Wow, Janet - I am hopeful my husband won't vote for Obama in 2012, but if he actually votes for the Repub candidate - as opposed to just staying home - it will blow my mind. ;)

[peter]

This line in MoDo's column stuck in my craw:

(quote)
Thomas and Scalia have flouted ethics rules by attending seminars sponsored by Koch Industries, an energy and manufacturing conglomerate run by billionaire brothers that has donated more than $100 million to far-right causes.
(end quote)

Exactly what is unethical about attending a seminar? And what seminars have Sotomayor, Kagen, and Ginsburg attended, and just who has sponsored those seminars.

Regarding the WS, I can't look at it as a red-state blue state thing. None of the San Francisco Giants is actually from San Francisco. Besides the fan base isn't likely to be a cross section of the city of San Francisco. Likely, the fans of Texas Rangers are more conservative on the whole but there could be some dope smoking, Prius driving , Obama tee shirt wearing fans from Austin too.

I guess I'll root for Tim Lincecum, who at 170 pounds, standing only 5'11" and with a face only a high school guidance counselor could love, seems as unlikely an athletic hero as anyone.

[peter]

Another thing about the Slimes. They run an article about female genital mutilation in the magazine section and never once, NEVER ONCE, do they mention Islam. Lun.

[JM Hanes]

TM:

Lordy, I would love to see the last of these arbitrary, text cramping avatars!

Excerpts with internal quotes go one for evah -- and the personalizing "feature" doesn't even work here.

I think it's easy to disappear them in your Typepad software if you'd like to. Could ja? Would ja?

[Extraneus]

You can get rid of the avatars with the narcisolator, JM.

[JM Hanes]

Extraneus:

Hmm. Maybe TM doesn't see them either. Alas, I use Safari, which means avatars & scrolling till it hurts....

[Pagar]

"Decent people (voters) have to be bothered by the way NPR fired him."

IMO, everything the leftists do or have ever done should bother decent people. I cannot imagine going forward every day knowing that my vote helped in any way the Democrats continue their assault on America.

[Captain Hate]

Miller recently acknowledged he was disciplined for violating the ethics policy while working for the borough, but said it was unrelated to his departure from the job.

Yet Il Douche's experiences at the Annenberg Challenge, going through a large pile of money like Lindsey Lohan's nose decimating a mountain of blow, and elsewhere still remain shrouded in mist....

[Thomas Collins]

I have to take issue with TM. This is a great matchup. Both teams have played great baseball during the playoffs, and the personalities on the two teams are a great mix. Only problem: I am not going to get much sleep over the next couple of weeks.

Will Nolan Ryan activate himself for the WS? I read that he can still throw in the high eighties. Is that true?

[Captain Hate]

Any JOMers live in Illadelphia? I'm wondering how many waitresses are wearing sunglasses because they "walked into a door" last night.

Go Rangers!

[JM Hanes]

"I have to take issue with TM. This is a great matchup."

Give him time, TC. Hope in Yankeeland only just bit the dust.

[Captain Hate]

Anybody watch "This Week with Christiyawn"? I'm wondering how bad of a bender Carville went on after Les Miles's complete sideline disorganization finally caught up with him.

[Extraneus]

bgates (@ Althouse):

Josh Marshall was always a principled lefty

He used to be, but high school changes people.

[rse]

CH-

Kurtz has a chapter called "Ayers and the Foundations" that does a nice job of putting CAC in the context of the other radical ideas BO was funding through the Woods Fund.

Like Bernadine Doehrn and the fight over juveniles guilty of violent crimes being tried as an adult and how the Afrocentric emphasis of much of the ed funding was consistent with Black Liberation theology BO was fascinated by through Wright and also Cone.

Maybe Mel has some ideas but there is nary a word in the book about the Joyce Foundation. Perhaps those papers remain unavailable and Kurtz felt he had made his point sufficiently.

It could also be that the Joyce Foundation as a big player on the national scene through the Philanthropy Roundtable was simply too much to take on.

Interesting omission though.

[Pagar]

" elsewhere still remain shrouded in mist"

The shroud has been peeked under! An American has been found who claims hewas a classmate of President Obama's at Occidental College.

Warning: this story, when one considers that there are Americans who voted for the Obama described, may really upset you.

[centralcal]

TC: Yesterday, on the other thread, you wrote:

Centralcal, are you no longer my friend?

What did I do/not do - say/not say? Was away from JOM most of the day, because granddaughters are here. Of course, you are my friend :)

[DrJ]

That was about baseball, CC. TC assumed you would root for the Giants, and he backs the Rangers. Nothing more than that!

[MarkO]

I thought baseball season was over.

[Comanche Voter]

As a San Diego Padres fan, I should be pulling for the National League and ex Padre manager Bruce Bochy in this one. Bochy always got the best out of his pitching staff--and he used most everybody last nighit to win the NLCS.

But the prospect of George Bush's old team coming to San Francisco, home of the Wicked Witch of the West is just too enticing. I'm a Rangers fan--for a while.

[centralcal]

DrJ: Well, duh! lol. I am pretty agnostic about sports teams. Usually the ones I root for - LOSE. All of my kids are vehement sports fans, so I usually to along to get along.

I say yay to the Rangers (born in Texas, so no problem rooting for them). Think the family are Giants fans, tho.

[Gmax]

I thought baseball season was over.

Au contraire mon aime, the curtain is about to go up on the final act and I will be in the front row for the first time since I lived in Detroit in 68!

The Rangers score a ton of runs and the Giants do not, so it should be a classic matchup. Something tells me, Bengie is going to want to prove the Giants wrong about letting him go for almost nothing.

[sbw]

bgates, bgates, bgates. When will you learn.

One does not waste time watching bad entertainment on the TV; one does not read bad entertainment on blogs.

I would not deign to read Josh Marshall the same way I would not follow the Bills O'Reilly or Moyers.

[Clarice]

Golly, I do love bgates..That whole post at Althouse is marvelous.

[sbw]

Yeah, Clarice, I know I should support bgates for going where even the brave dare not go

But for the life of me I have been unable to resolve why the josh-induced fabric of hubris does not tear from centrifugal force, spinning as hard as it does.

[sbw]

[OT, but not really] I have been listening to a summary about the ideas of economist Joseph Schumpeter, written in the 1930s. What book might be the best summary of his work?

Schumpeter suggests the greatest failure of capitalism was not to recognize that the commercial marketplace rewards innovation and entrepreneurship and that those who cannot succeed there, retreat to live on in self-perpetuating outposts of pre-capitalist institutions like academia, journalism, and government, where, credentialed by themselves, they do not create discontent, but channel it by asserting self-validating criticism that undermines the commercial marketplace in which they cannot survive.

Schumpeter's conclusion: The country needs to reexamine its prejudices. [OT]

[Clarice]

I have to confess, I never heard/read that before, but it is absolutely brilliant.

[Janet the tea-vangelist!]

It IS brilliant...it highlights the human tendency to look for outside blame for failures or underachievement rather than looking within. Or even to blame nobody (not self or others)...hard things are just a part of life.

[Rick Ballard]

SBW,

Perhaps Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy. His work is much more accessible either Mises or Hayek (aside from Road). He was rather pessimistic regarding the probable outcome of the competition.

[peter]

Any JOMers live in Illadelphia?
No, but my many Mets fan friends tell me how abominable the Phillies Phans are. Go Giants!

[Gmax]

Zero drops to 41 % approval this AM? I assume that going into attack mode is not going over well with anyone other than his ever dwiddling pile of supporters?

To know this clown is not to love him.

[narciso]

Like I was telling daddy, Miller fought to depose the chief of the Chukchi fiefdom, Ruedrich I wanted to be as alliterative as possible) and he's being punished for it,
great pieces by the way, Clarice

[Danube of Thought]

Who has him at 41?

[rse]

Well I'm sure the disapproval will not be impacted a bit by an entourage so large they must book the entire Taj Mahal hotel as well as significant parts of many other hotels.

LUN

Anyone else read the story that the Russians knew he was a lightweight and could be played by how a previous entourage behaved at the Moscow Ritz-Carlton as if they were on a Robin Leach "caviar dreams" tour?

[Thomas Collins]

With all the excitement about the WS and elections, let's not forget that on Nov. 6th Zenyatta will attempt to repeat in the Breeders Cup Classic, which apparently will be her last race. See LUN for her thrilling 2009 Breeders Cup Classic victory.

[Janet the tea-vangelist!]

For liberal groups, it's not just for laughs.
Newsbusters covers a WaPo article on the Stewart Restoring Sanity rally this weekend.

From the WaPo article - "On public radio's Fresh Air last month, Stewart sought to play down suggestions that the event was planned as a take-down of the tea party movement and of Fox personality Glenn Beck, who in August held his Restoring Honor rally on the Mall."

Oh no...how could we think this was a take-down of the Restoring Honor rally or Tea Parties????? I mean it is called Restoring Sanity...how is THAT like Restoring Honor?

and one of the quotes in the article says, "This is basically the anti-tea party rally. It's saying, These people are absolutely crazy and we can't have them in the government," said Emma Ellman-Golan, president of the Democratic club at the University of Pennsylvania."

I guess Emma didn't get the memo from Jon that this wasn't a take-down of the Tea Parties.

[Gmax]

Who has him at 41?

That would be Gallup, ties the 52 week low.

Rasmussen is norming his poll for his expected turnout. that is why the Obama approvals never seem to make sense with how unpopular this charlatan is.

[Gmax]

I expect the turnout for Stewart to be modest. Even when they run the buses and cattle herding ops, they just cant get the Mojo working. Kinda like the seal falling off the podium, you cant ever go back.

[matt]

out here in loonieland, the LA Times has Brown way ahead of Whitman, which to me is simply amazing. Boxer is ahead of Fiorina as well. It really is the land of fruits and nuts. A retread penguin with virtually no platform and a demonstrably insane ideologue are outpolling two women who combined have more real word experience than the entire state legislature.

The anti 23 lobby is outspending the pro 23's 2:1 and California is headed towards becoming the most class divided state in the Union as all the rich folk are moving assets out of state. I don't see this ending well at all.

And coming from generations of Dodger fans, I would just as soon see San Francisco and their Giants fall into the sea. As an Angels fan it's hard to get the words out, but Go Rangers!

[Jack is Back!]

Redskins up 10 to 7 over the Bears. I'll wait until its in the bag or I am in the bag before the traditional "hail to the redskins" JIB rendition.

OT: Andy "think of the liability" McCarthy over at NRO is saying that if the new Congress can't defund CPR/PBS/NPR how can we expect them to repeal ObamaCare. Good point and it will probably show if these newbies even know how to pick low lying fruit much less the crap laying on the ground.

[narciso]

He calls it the Talking Points Memo, how much
integrity or originality can ever originate there

[Jack is Back!]

matt,

Did you see the internals of that poll? Is is registered, likely voters and is it balanced or lean more to Dems? Its little things like that (wishful thinking/self-fulfilling prophecy) that always make me suspicious of any and all polls including Rasmussen's unless we know the makeup and the actual question.

I just have a hard time imagining a sane god-fearing patriotic American living in California with a family, kids in school and his home value sinking, his taxes rising, who has seen Boxer and Brown at their glaring incompetences and bullying, voting for them. But then I am one of those people Barney Frank knows lives on a different planet.

[narciso]

You were right to suspect that poll, the internals are all over the place, adults,
registered likely, with a Latin oversample,
they not only cooked this sample, but they
burned the pot

[Danube of Thought]

How does Raz do that, Gmax?

[Gmax]

He first polls for the self identification ( using the average of the last three months )and then forces his sample to hit those numbers.

Knowing this allows you to reconcile RAS and Gallup. Scott is norming out the wave.

Most polls are ridiculous in their likely voter screens. If 90% of the sample passes the screen and we know historically that about 40% of registered voters actual bother to vote in a midterm election, then what you have is a RV poll

[bgates]

I just have a hard time imagining a sane god-fearing patriotic American living in California

Me, too.

One does not waste time watching bad entertainment on the TV

Speak for one's self.

Where did you get the idea that I read Josh Marshall??

[narciso]

You throw in more registered, adults, rejigger
the party sampling, meanwhile cluelessness has a new name, in the LUN

[Jack is Back!]

narcisco,

Now that is harpoon quality whale blubber and just confirms for me the web of academic insanity that the tea party movement has encouraged. They, like the New York Times, have their knickers in knots and just cannot accept that there is life outside of the west and east coasts.

[Clarice]

Gosh, having read that, I think SCAM,Ltd needs to start opening campus offices.

[bgates]

Clarice, don't think of getting the Society of Campus Academics Multinationale started in our turf - I've had Freethinking Respectable Academics United in Diversity working that side of the street for years.

[caro]

Thanks,narc.

I am struck that in a (large?) group of academics meeting to talk about the Tea Party,only a dozen had bothered to attend one for informational purposes and research.

[narciso]

You're welcome, did Perlstein hit his head, he's forgotten everything he learned in his Goldwater bio, and is reduced to doing very derivative Hofstadler and Frankfurt School.

[Jack is Back!]

Wait until Dave Burge reads that, it will take on whole different perspective to understand the value of an education from these mooching idiots.

[Clarice]

Just damn, bgates. What a target rich environment.

[rse]

bgates-

Isn't it the "Society of Campus Academics Multinationale For Sustainability"?

Think of the community.

It is so selfish to put an emphasis on individual wants or needs.

[peter]

Almost 4:00 PM, and no one has wished me a Happy United Nations Day.

[Danube of Thought]

"I just have a hard time imagining a sane god-fearing patriotic American living in California"

Imagine a Ronald Reagan and a Danube of Thought. Imagine 320+ days of sunshine per year and an annual rainfall of ten inches. Imagine 72 degrees, an ocean breeze and negligible humidity. Imagine Coronado.

[Rick Ballard]

Caro,

You must consider the potential negative impact that direct observation may have upon highly theoretical modeling constructs.

Let's talk about probable causes of obesity among the 'poor' instead.

Why do you suppose that oligarchic capitalists are trying to kill the poor by overfeeding them? Secondly, how should oligarchic (and undoubtedly male) capitalists be taxed or otherwise punished for doing so?

[narciso]

You know from the LUN, the trick of a scam, is to trick the mark, not yourself, or so I'm
told

[narciso]

I was seeing Rick, that someone has put the bayoneting of the Blue Dogs on paper, a very
un Fight Club thing to do

[Jack is Back!]

I am warming up "hail to the redskins" but do they deserve it? The most sloppy, unprofessional, Pop Warneresque game yet this year. DeAngelo Hall ties an NFL record with 4 INTs in one game and the Bears had 5 straight possessions with a turnover. Looks like I can:

"Hail to the Redskins,
Hail Victory,
Braves on the Warpath,
Fight for Old DC."

[bunky]

DoT: do you use AC at all?

[boris]

If Ronald Reagan is still living in California then reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.

[Danube of Thought]

We don't have it, Bunky.

[Rick Ballard]

Narciso,

I saw that in the NYT as well. I also saw Greenberg (party responsible for the LAT laugher) team with Carville re keeping the Titanic afloat. Their argument appears reasonable until one reviews the historical results of responses to Gallup's "deserves reelection" question.

In '94, 38% responded affirmatively, in '98, 58% did so and today, just 33% do so. I understand Greenberg and Carville's desire to 'keep HOPE alive' but their Norwegian Blue really isn't just pining for the fjords and Obama's cornered rat defense isn't helping today any more than Gingrich's bluster helped in '98.

[Jack is Back!]

Well isn't that interesting. Watching the last seconds of the 49er's v. Panthers. Evidently, the '49ers QB, Alex Smith some how injured his shoulder and is on the sideline with it in a sling. Here is where it gets interesting (are you reading this Mr. Paul Krugman?)

Apparently, the 49ers are to leave immediately to London, England for their next game at Wembley against the Denver Broncos and the Panthers stadium doesn't have an MRI to evaluate how bad the injury is to the QB. If you are Mike Singletary, the coach of the 49ers, what do you do? Do you trust Mr. Krugman and have Smith get on the plane and have the injury evaluated by the National Health Service in London? Or do have your doubts about all this nationalized health stuff and have him evaluated here in America at a local hospital in Charlotte and follow on later?

Its so simple even a caveman can figure this one out.

[bgates]

Imagine 320+ days of sunshine per year

I lived in Cardiff for two years, and I tried to imagine sunshine the whole time. (Most frequently uttered sentence in San Diego: "It's not usually like this.")

Think of the community.

You're thinking of Communities Rallying to Organize Communities and Kinfolk, our sister organization. They're doing great work in transferring the expertise gained in urban community organizing to rural areas.

[narciso]

That's because of the Maw and the Torchwood organization, bgates, it explains a lot

[Captain Hate]

DeAngelo Hall ties an NFL record with 4 INTs in one game

Jay Cutler is a complete idiot for not throwing to whoever Carlos Rogers is defending because there's no way it will be intercepted.

[centralcal]

Tammy Bruce found a great bumper sticker:

IF OBAMA'S THE ANSWER
How Stupid Was The Question?

And, she also has a link to a dissection of the LA Times poll.

A few weeks ago I heard a news report that here in Fresno County - which has been increasingly trending Democrat over the last decade - that Dem-Rep registrations were within 200 (plus/minus) of reaching parity. Registration had not yet closed and some were predicting that Republicans might just surpass the Dems for the first time in over a decade.

Also, anecdotal - but hey, what isn't - several Dem Mayors in the small, mostly Mexican farm communities, have supported and endorsed Carly Fiorina. It is all about water, water, water.

I am hopeful for Carly. Not sure what will happen with Whitman.

[bunky]

DoT: so what you're telling me is the 'rats have effed up paradise.

[Extraneus]

Check out the pic that HuffPo uses to accompany a story attempting to foment a feud between Rush and Rove.

Poor lefties. They'll be up late in their bedrooms drawing Hitler mustaches soon.

[maryrose]

The impossible has happened. The Cleveland Browns have defeated last year's SuperBowl champions The New Orleans saints. It was the battle of 2 hotties McCord and Brees both Texans! Go Rangers!

[Danube of Thought]

"I tried to imagine sunshine the whole time."

Mistake. For most of the summer the marine layer comes in every night, and then burns off by about noon. That's one factor in the moderate temperatures.

What has destroyed Californis is gerrymandering (perfectly legal), a permanent Dem legislative majority, a series of preposterously inept governors (about to be extended), and the public employee unions.

I live here because of the weather, the magnificent house we own, many friends and relatives, and my age. I decided on California in 1975. If I were deciding today, California wouldn't be a candidate,

[Porchlight]

California must be paradise indeed if people are willing to brave the insanity to live there. I've always been fascinated by VDH's accounts of what it was like before it all started going to hell.

DoT, is Coronado something of an island of sanity given the high concentration of Navy folks? My great-uncle is retired Navy and used to live in Rancho Santa Fe for many years. He's pretty conservative and I gathered many of his fellow officers were, too.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--DoT, is Coronado something of an island of sanity given the high concentration of Navy folks?--

Can't speak to Coronado, but geographically the vast majority of the state is sane. It's mainly two insane, teeming islands, LA and the Bay Area, that are afloat in the sea of sanity.
The first of my family out here were Swiss Italians who came out with Sutter prior to the Gold Rush. To be perfectly honest, being self employed I can adjust things so I avoid most state taxes and in the rural areas we are largely free of the urban idiocies including even a lot of the environmental crap. I'm still a gun dealer and still a logger so it can't be too bad out here in the hinterlands yet.
Unlike DoT we receive slightly more rain than 10 inches and slightly less sun. I suspect we have received pretty close to his yearly rainfall in the last day and a half.

[Gmax]

Coronado Island is indeed gorgeous. But if I had to go with a second and a third mortgage and an uderwater equity situation in a state that loves to tax real estate, sales, income and just about anything that moves for my gorgeous place in no income tax Texas, I would quite easily pass. But someone has to do the tough work so hang in there DOT help coming, but maybe not to your neck of the woods. And with Republicans like Able Maldonado, I hope you still have a wallet in a couple years.

[caro]

You must consider the potential negative impact that direct observation may have upon highly theoretical modeling constructs.

True,dat,Rick.

[Danube of Thought]

Thanks for all the encouraging remarks. Coronado still has a retired-Navy presence, but it is steadily shrinking. Since the bridge from SD was built in 1969 the price of real estate has just skyrocketed--no naval officer without family money could buy a house here today. But it remains lovely, quiet, peaceful, friendly and quite conservative politically.

What has happened to this state should be every bit as much an object lesson as what has happened to Greece, France and the UK. but my feeling is that the only time people learn such lessons is when it happens to them. And it will, not just herebut across the US.

[matt]

WASHINGTON – The new health care law wasn't supposed to undercut employer plans that have provided most people in the U.S. with coverage for generations.

But last week a leading manufacturer told workers their costs will jump partly because of the law. Also, a Democratic governor laid out a scheme for employers to get out of health care by shifting workers into taxpayer-subsidized insurance markets that open in 2014.

While it's too early to proclaim the demise of job-based coverage, corporate number crunchers are looking at options that could lead to major changes.

"The economics of dropping existing coverage is about to become very attractive to many employers, both public and private," said Gov. Phil Bredesen, D-Tenn.

____________________________________________

This from the Yahoo front page a few moments ago. Gee, so employers are going to drop coverage? What a surprise! The really tragic part is that people actually believed all of the bullshit the Dems were selling during the health care debate. I am tempted to post this in our lunchroom tomorrow morning.

[Danube of Thought]

Another fine one, Clarice--it helps a lot.

[caro]

I just had to leave the Raiders/Broncos game and clicked onto a PBS ::gasp:: documentary on gothic cathedrals. At the end the name David H. Koch flashed across the screen.In the interest of knowing more about the man who is funding all my travel to DC Tea Parties as well as Jane's Sturbridge shindig I went to Wiki.

David Koch contributed $7 million to the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) show Nova, and is a contributer to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., including a $20 million gift to the American Museum of Natural History, creating the David H. Koch Dinosaur Wing and a contribution of $15 million to the National Museum of Natural History to create the new David H. Koch Hall of Human Origins, which opened on the museum's 100th anniversary of its location on the National Mall on March 17, 2010.

Soros is a piker.

[Gmax]

Oregon is such a hip progressive place:

Portland residents will vote Nov. 2 on a proposal to give legal residents who are not U.S. citizens the right to vote in local elections, joining places like San Francisco and Chicago that have already loosened the rules or are considering it.

[Gmax]

The largest privately held company in the country is Koch Industries. Owned by the two Koch brothers. The MacMillian family in Minnesota with Cargill is usually a close second. There are huge piles of cash there, and more where that came from as new exploration for oil proceeds apace.

[Clarice]

And I imagine the procedures in place are so fine tuned, gmax, that there's no chance that illegals will also vote in state and federal elections.

Thanks, DoT.

Caro--re "
including a $20 million gift to the American Museum of Natural History, creating the David H. Koch Dinosaur Wing "..If my grand daughter, the world's greatest paleontologist to be, found out anyone was picking on the donor of the Dinosaur Wing---well, there's be hell to pay..hell..

[JM Hanes]

bgates:

"Speak for one's self."

LOL!

On a similar note, here's Oneself, himself, with the lastest on ditching the car:

"And so me and Wyden and Merkley and Wu and Blumenauer and the Democrats, we went down there, we put on our boots."

It takes a village! Communicatin' with the peeps just ain't what it used to be, especially when One can't tell the difference between a ditch and the gutter.

As someone else observed: "Barack Obama remembers how good it used to be to be Barack Obama." One is the loneliest number.

[Ignatz Ratzkywatzky]

--we went down there, we put on our boots--

Has this chucklehead noticed that the rest of us, including a good number of the saps who voted for him, are wearing hip boots whenever he speaks?

[macphisto]

you can't take California polls seriously; the Field Poll in particular is screwier than a bolt factory, and always overestimates support for the Democrats. i'm not optimistic about the chances for Whitman or Fiorina, but i very much doubt that it's as far apart as the LA Times has it.

[MarkO]

Odious has serious trouble with that subjective/objective pronoun stuff. Or is he simply talking down to black folk?

I love it when he says "between you and I."

Glad we don't have a president who talks like Sarah Palin, right?