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November 09, 2010

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Clarice

hush-I've been expending my last drop of energy on writing Nan to sray the course.

NK

Hmmm... who to believe, a shameless politician like Markey or a an agressive trial lawyer looking for a career capstone in truth telling... Hmmmm... tough one one but in this rare case I'd go with the aggressive trial lawyer. One issue for which I would like a thorough investigation was the role of the fire fighting efforts. The facts were never clear, but the timeline indicted the possibility that the rig sinking was ultimately caused by the weight of the volume of water from fire fighting efforts. The uncontrolled oil leak was caused by the rig sinking and severing the piping at the well head. Would smarter firefighting not caused the rig sinking and subsequent uncontrolled leak. Deep water drilling is inherently dangerous; there will be another major rig explosion/fire some day. Fire fighting must first save lives, but as a second priority, the fire suppression should not worsen environmetal/economic impacts.

Rick Ballard

What benefit do surviving Blue Dogs derive from remaining in a minority party governed by the Progressive Carcass? "This time, you've got me" does not seem to have played out in quite the way it was anticipated and I can't quite see how things will be better for remaining Blue Dogs in '12.

Army of Davids

Here in California we have $500 billion in underfunded pensions....the highest gas taxes in the country....the second worst K-12.....12.4% unemployment....and the highest percentage of the population on welfare....oh....and the worst bond rating in the country.

We voted in Jerry Brown...the same governor that allowed the unionization of public employees back in the 70s. We give you Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman and Maxine Waters.

Can we have a bailout. Promise it won't happen again.

Old Lurker

Sorry OT.

When Ann shows up, maybe she can post the Drudge Pic of Hillary. Is she still wearing her pumpkin costume from Halloween? Talk about Trick or Treat...

DebinNC

I think all the Blue Dogs in NC won last week, except for "Who're you?" Etheridge whose narrow defeat is currently being challenged in a recount. I guess the folks in those districts just like them. The NC GOP, the most hapless bunch imaginable, will control redistricting for the first time since Reconstruction. Normally, that would mean NC Blue Dogs have something to fear, but with this bunch I'm not at all sure.

DebinNC

On a happier note, Pelosi is facing a race war.

Neo

De Nile is a critical part of the current Dem "strategy".

I suggest that they learn how to walk like an Egyptian.

Danube of Thought

That Drudge picture of Hillary is alarming.

MarkO

She's a little teapot.

Clarice

*sTay the course*

matt

interesting that they can find all sorts of people who knew Barry Soetero in Jakarta but no one at Occidental or Columbia.

Captain Hate

From the article Deb linked; is there a bigger pandering twatweasel than Chris "Let's give everybody a leadership participation prize" Van Douchebag, who thoroughly beclowned himself on the Sunday gab shows by being wrong about everything?

Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, who headed the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, suggested that the party might create a House post in order for Hoyer and Clyburn to both remain in the leadership.

"We're going to look for a way to make sure that both these members can stay in the Democratic leadership," Van Hollen told CNN on Sunday.

Neo

I suggest that we all support Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, who is black, for the Minority Whip job.
This will most likely lead to more unhappyness with Speaker Pelosi, who is angling for the Majority Leader job.
Besides, Jim Clyburn has such a superior intellect. LUN

Captain Hate

And Muffer as the Great Pumpkin who just ate Joe Wilson

DebinNC

Sorry if it's here and I missed it: NYT on Barry's Jakarta days

Extraneus

I'll do the ... uh ... honors.

(Sheesh.)

DebinNC

Looks like Hil has finally embraced her inner Oprah and decided to wear what she likes. If so, good for her.

MarkO

You know, I have to admit those interns look pretty good.

JM Hanes

Deb & Captain H:

Oh man, is this is going to be fun to watch, or what?

Next up: Allen West attempts to crash the CBC party. Maybe they can create a new position for him. They could make him 2/3rds of a member.

JM Hanes

Deb:

More like her inner Imelda, with a closet full of the same suits in different colors.

Captain Hate

Next up: Allen West attempts to crash the CBC party. Maybe they can create a new position for him. They could make him 2/3rds of a member.

3/5 seems more appropriate.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--They could make him 2/3rds of a member.--

That made my day, JMH.

DebinNC

More good news for us, but bad news for Harry Reid The best possible outcome imo...Dems nominally having the Senate (and WH) denies Obama a believable foil in the coming campaign.

Danube of Thought

House Dem from GA just switchedvto GOP this morning.

Old Lurker

Thanks Ext.

:-)

maryrose

DOT:
Who was it?

DebinNC

Unless that guy ran unopposed, I don't respect his party switching.

JM Hanes

As I reflected on my entirely erroneous prediction that Nancy would retire from the top of what's left of her Congressional heap, I think I'm beginning to see the calculus.

Pelosi really does think that she's been the most effective Speaker, evah, and in fact she really has accomplished things nobody else could ever pull off. Reversing the damage will not be as easy as it might seem in the abstract.

Pelosi knew all along that the Blue Dogs were probably, if not surely, going to get slaughtered at the polls; that's why she let them vote nay whenever she had a surplus majority. They were useful moderate idiots; they're gone, and when the next crop comes in, her lefty pals will have a lock on seniority. I don't see her welcoming any freshman into leadership positions as her counterparts on the right are preparing to do.

Pelosi was smart enough to know she couldn't celebrate her victories before the election, but she can do it now. In fact, she's got to, in order to keep the progressive base -- who thought Obamacare didn't go far enough -- in tow. She may also be precisely the kind of enforcer that House Dems need now more than ever, if they are to approach anything like the discipline that has made the Republican minority so effective.

JM Hanes

Captain:

"3/5 seems more appropriate."

Damn, I knew I should have looked it up!

Clarice

The CBC says it will admit the Republican black congressmen. West is going to be so much fun on the Hill.


Watching Pelosi is ike the shot in Thelma and Louise where the ride their car into the canyon.

Rick Ballard

Deb,

He was unopposed. A state legislator as well. I would anticipate that Congressional Blue Dogs will wait for the Prog/Black Carcass to do something relatively stupid prior to crossing the aisle. It shouldn't take long at all.

Don't forget the staffing and budget cuts which occur when moving to minority party status. Blue Dogs can no longer count on the Soros/Peters money they received after Howard Dean sold the party to the commies. BOzo's total ineptitude makes him a very poor investment. They might be interested in spreading additional ruin if he decided not to run but I can't see them pouring money into Blue Dogs in any event.

Thomas Collins

I guess this is the latest thread related to the election, so, although off topic, I thought JOMers (especially Massachusetts JOMers) might be interested in Bay State election day fraud. See LUN (via Instapundit).

Clarice

It will be interesting to see what happens with all those well-compensated staffers when they hit the street. The market for their services in local lobbying shops is way down and there isn't a whole hell of a lot else they can do. One day you're rewriting the entire health care system and giving the poor slobs who pay the bills the finger and the next day you are unemployed and a slob yourself.

Rob Crawford

Good lord. Had Hillary(!) worn that two weeks ago, she'd have been carved, gutted, lit, and stuck on someone's porch.

Captain Hate

Damn, I knew I should have looked it up!

Eh, I didn't take any pleasure in correcting you since you deserve the credit of putting the two items together; think of it as a preemptive strike against any of the chastened trolls desperately searching for an opening to return with an "OMG you wingerzz don't know history".

NK

I hope all 190 or so Dems vote for Nancy (never happen there will be at least a dozen abstains) especially my phony Congressman Jim Himes. His yes for Nancy is the first step for him getting canned in 2012. Every marginal district Dem voting for Nancy improves the chance of throwing them out in 2012. Go for it Dems!

Rick Ballard

Jane,

Issa heard you.

The only way to ensure we do not repeat the sequence of events that resulted in our financial meltdown is to fully expose the true nature of what went wrong and why. This must begin with an honest and complete examination of the role that Countrywide's VIP program played in passing bad loans on Americans with the cooperation of government entities like Fannie and Fredddie.

How's your day going, Barney? It's cold - why are you sweating?

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

John Tamny of Forbes and RealClearMarkets continues as perhaps the clearest thinker and expositor on economics as he deconstructs Uncle Ben's titanic cruise aboard the QE2.

caro

This just in from ManTran!

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JOMO influence spreads.

Uncle BigBad

Bush now on Rush having an intelligent conversation.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Saw it TC - and I'm not the least bit surprised. I heard a first hand account of similar fraud in NJ. WE really have to get a handle on it.

Danube of Thought

I read somewhere this morning that the Dems have hired grief counselors for the outgoing staffers. Seriously.

macphisto

"grief counseling" story @ Politico LUN.

Clarice

Can someone point me to the best refutation of the Lott/Rove thesis in Politico that the tea party cost the Republicans the election?

Clarice

DoT, this guys an gals were riding high above the crowd and suddenly find themselves back on earth and unemployable.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Don't skip over Caro's post guys - it is a real indication of JOM's influence and should be dwelt over.

Rick - Darryl and I are joined at the hip. He is my new BFF. Barney will rue the day he cheated his way back to Congress.

The market for their services in local lobbying shops is way down and there isn't a whole hell of a lot else they can do

Sweeter still is now they have to pay back their own student loans.

Since $$$ public sector salaries are so much higher than private sector ones, anyone else think we should have a 25% decrease in all private sector salaries, an end to perks and a decrease of 25% in the number of private sector employees?

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Can someone point me to the best refutation of the Lott/Rove thesis in Politico that the tea party cost the Republicans the election?

I don't know where I read it, but the % gain of seats in the senate is ever greater than in the house.

That should do it.

Clarice

Thanks, Jane. It was from the Weekly Standard.

Jack is Back!

caro,

Great find. It spreads like QE2. Did you know we even have our own tribal dance and music. LUN

I think the first lady is Clarice and the guy doing all the jumping around is Narciso.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Man tran and Mrs. Man tran, another Barbara, Caro and I will memorize that JIB and perform it next week on the cruise for 900 avid conservatives.

Boatbuilder

Clarice--I was going to suggest that the fact that the Republicans won the election would seem to refute the thesis, but the Weekly Standard probably does a better job.

Boatbuilder

I am heartened to hear that Alan West will be admitted to the CBC. We had a black Republican congressman from CT in the 90's, Gary Franks, who was not permitted to join as I recall.

sbw

Ig, that Tamny article was beautifully clear. Rick, Mel, do you agree? If so, what would you suggest Tamny's next article would say?

sbw

-- refutation of the Lott/Rove thesis in Politico that the tea party cost the Republicans the election?

It also needs to be set against the number of governorships won, the state legislative seats won...

... but the premise of the question is mistaken; the goal was not to take control of the any legislature, but to take control of the issues, and that it did beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Rick Ballard

Jane,

Have you ordered extra JOMO Tribe identifying pins for potential new members?

Clarice

Excellent point though I think those who cling to the notion that the political game is unchanged will miss it.

The belief that politics is a "science" where one can measure and weigh and determine an outcome, has the same flaw as economics, to my mind--that is sentiment is more important than bean counters can ever acknowledge. That's why Sarah will draw huge crowds and Lott will not.

Carol Herman

Nancy wins. She also got TOP BILLING. Given that with her attitude (which doesn't deviate from the SURREAL nature of all her artwork), I'm not surprised. I will bet, however, Hoyer is out as #2! Given that he's being accused of losing 20 Blue Dogs.

It also doesn't change the dynamics. You've got idiots in the republican party who are so thrilled with their new office spaces; they hardly are concerned about how "the tea party members" take it.

Did you notice how fast Nancy took all the joy out of the day after the republican win, hm?

Porchlight

Did you notice how fast Nancy took all the joy out of the day after the republican win, hm?

Not for me...

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Funny Rick, that is the same logo as the Sturbridge Tea party and I have 100's of those.

Good idea.

Danube of Thought

Seems to me the % gain in the Senate was 14% (47/41) and in the House it was 35% (242/179). Not sure what it proves ine way or another...

Rick Ballard

SBW,

The Tammy article is excellent and addresses the silliness of the Fed's stated position very well but I don't buy the stated position at all. I believe that QE2 is part of a process of habituation designed to raise acceptance of Fed intervention across all markets. We're seeing a 'graceful failure' that may well result in the nationalization of many, if not all, of the money center banks. That sounds somewhat more alarming than it actually is in reality as long as the Boards involved are replaced prior to the banks coming back to market. Schumpeter's 'creative destruction' cannot occur until the zombies are dismembered and parted out to new owners.

Clarice

Dot, this is what the WS's Anderson says:

"But to put the Republicans' Senate gains this week into perspective, Republicans won an even higher percentage of Senate races than House races (they won 65 percent of the 37 Senate races, versus approximately 56 percent of the 435 House races). And, counting Lisa Murkowski as still being a Republican (a spokesman for her campaign says the Alaskan would caucus with the GOP if she beats Joe Miller in their still-undecided race), there have been only two elections since 1950 in which Republicans have gained more Senate seats than the six they gained in 2010. One of those elections was in 1980, when voters swept Ronald Reagan into the White House. The second was in 1994, in response to the Democrats' ill-advised attempts to pass Hillarycare. So while the Republicans' gains in the House – surpassing those of 1994 and likely doubling those of 1980 – are more historic and important, the GOP's Senate pickups in 2010 aren't too shabby either."

JM Hanes

Clarice:

Where on earth do Lott/Rove think the enthusiasm gap came from?

Clarice

Some place that does them no good,jmh?

JM Hanes

Rick:

"How's your day going, Barney? It's cold - why are you sweating?"

Barney must have been terrified that he might end up as a private citizen right when the Republican hearings get underway. That explains the $200K.

caro

Clarice, this is from Geraghty's Morning Jolt.

Palin fans are not amused. Ian Lazarian, writing at Conservatives4Palin.com, concludes, "Governor Palin did not endorse either Sharron Angle or Ken Buck in their respective primaries. So which Palin-endorsed candidates is Bachus talking about? Does he think Chuck DeVore would have performed better than Carly Fiorina in California? Besides Christine O'Donnell, who did Palin endorse in a primary that was less electable than the person she did not endorse? Third, I can easily play the same game that Bachus played by arguing that the establishment cost us a Senate seat in Washington by going with a retread like Dino Rossi over Clint Didier. I can easily play this game by arguing that the establishment cost us the Maryland Governor's race by going with a retread like Bob Ehrlich over a young upstart like Brian Murphy."

He then offers this conclusion, one that will require further study: "The reality is that we simply do not have a shot at winning in deep blue states like California and Delaware."

Who is "we"? Conservatives? Republicans? Palin fans? One wonders if the new governor of Maine or the current governor of New Jersey concur. And how blue is "deep blue"? And weren't Illinois and Wisconsin considered "deep blue" not too long ago?

Danube of Thought

Now I get it.

Clarice

Thanks, Caro.

Captain Hate

The belief that politics is a "science" where one can measure and weigh and determine an outcome, has the same flaw as economics, to my mind--that is sentiment is more important than bean counters can ever acknowledge.

Oxymoronic social sciences

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Dot,

This is what they are referring to:

But to put the Republicans' Senate gains this week into perspective, Republicans won an even higher percentage of Senate races than House races (they won 65 percent of the 37 Senate races, versus approximately 56 percent of the 435 House races)

jimmyk

I believe that QE2 is part of a process of habituation designed to raise acceptance of Fed intervention across all markets.

Perhaps, but I also think there's a face-saving element of it. I don't think too many people seriously think QE1 was a smashing success, but if the economy should coincidentally recover in the next couple of years (more likely because of fiscal measures forced in by Republicans), the Fed will be able to say with a straight face that QE2 worked. If they didn't do QE2, they'd basically be saying "Sorry, we can't help." That would be the right answer, but not one their willing to give.

jimmyk

their=they're

JM Hanes

Captain:

Correction welcomed -- you've saved me from future embarrassment!

Clarice

Fair Game dissected.Verdict:POS LUN

Rick Ballard

jimmyk,

That brings to mind a picture of Romer explaining her chart to BOzo, him smiling and tucking it under his pillow as he orders full speed ahead on HRC. It's a very plausible scenario - Bernanke pushing buttons and pulling levers in a vain attempt to validate an initial error in analysis which calls into question the conclusions he reached concerning what "really needed to be done" in '32.

JMH,

Barney should ask for expedited hearings concerning probable ethics charges. Maybe he could get the ethics committee to include him on the docket with Rangel and Waters?

Clarice

Rick, you evil, evil man.

Captain Hate

From Clarice's link:

The movie conforms to a pure and simple Hollywood story line complete with hero (Wilson), villain (Libby), and innocent, distressed damsel (Plame). That story line is gospel for the Left. A corollary story line is gospel for the Right: that Libby took the fall for Cheney.

Both are wrong. The fundamental problem is that Hollywood’s narrative needs and political leanings often conflict with reality. Hollywood needs a straightforward story line. Washington is more complicated. The usual explanation for bad outcomes inside the Beltway is not evil or corruption but incompetence or poor judgment. And there are rarely heroes.

::vomit::

daddy

Since you guys are over here, hope you don't mind me cross-posting this breaking story having to do with the BP Oil Spill Testimony:

You guys are all making decent points but none of this matters until we get testimony from the real experts on Oil Spills and the Environment.

That is why today in Alaska we have got one of the Worlds experts on these important Scientific matters testifying in front of The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement hearing: ">http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20101109/BIZ/101109500/1031/BIZ"> Actor Ted Danson to testify at Alaska lease hearing.

As you know, Ted Danson is up here playing the role of a member of the dimwitted, venal, and Eco-unfriendly Reagan Administration, in the currently filming Drew Barrymore blockbuster, "Everybody Loves Whales".

It is unfortunate that this Federal Commission couldn't get Mz Barrymore to tell us about the Scientific challenges of drilling in the Chukchi, but thankfully the very intelligent and completely unbiased former boyfriend of Whoopie Goldberg, Mr Danson, was available to pick up the slack and bring to this hearing the well founded Scientific Testimony that we all yearn for in such hearings.

PS: I'm not making this up.

Clarice

I saw that, too, and wondered when you'd weigh in.

After all he plays an NRDC supporter on Curb Your Enthusiasm. QED.

Appalled

daddy:

Was Stephen Colbert not available?

Jack is Back!

Fair Game - I hope it fails like Obama is failing - no one goes to see it. But I am shocked at the idea of Sean Penn playing some one like Joe Wilson. I would think that a role more fitting for Pee Wee Herman or Andy Griffith:)

Extraneus

I was thinking Danny DeVito.

Appalled

WC Fields not being available, Sean Penn actually is good casting for Joe Wilson. (DeVito would make a good Armitage.)

JM Hanes

Clarice,

I doubt the conventional wisdom will change, but bravo to Stan Crock. He does an extraordinarily good job of laying out the case in digestible fashion, which is not easy!

Although it's a minor point in the larger scheme, he does get this wrong:

The movie conforms to a pure and simple Hollywood story line complete with hero (Wilson), villain (Libby), and innocent, distressed damsel (Plame). That story line is gospel for the Left. A corollary story line is gospel for the Right: that Libby took the fall for Cheney.

The first is the popular understanding, the second is absolute gospel according to the left, not the right.

Janet the tea-vangelist!

I have a whole box of notes & articles upstairs from the Libby days. I used to have long lists of thread titles with like "9:04am Clarice - good point on Armitage". I cleaned out some of it, and am sorry I did. JOM was like a good book I couldn't put down. I never posted though.

Dave (in MA)

Story linked in the left sidebar:

CBS News:
Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast
To me it's obviously not a missile heading skyward, but a contrail heading in the direction of the camera and away from the setting sun. That's why the "upper" part of the "missile"'s "plume" is in darkness and the "lower" part is in sunlight. It's a plane heading east. I'll have to check with Art Bell and the rest of the face on Mars bunch, though.

Ignatz Ratzkywatzky

--...digestible fashion...--

Is that like edible panties?

Clarice

Good catch, jmh, It;s such a well-written article I was tempted to blog it but I do not want to give that POS or the lead players in that fiasco another pixel's worth of publicity.

Porchlight

JOM was like a good book I couldn't put down.

It still is! I wish you had posted back in those days.

Jane

We really should make a movie with the truth

Janet the tea-vangelist!

To this day, the Libby family is on my prayer list. One of the little things that made me sick was in both of my kid's yearbooks there were pages set aside for big news in that year. They both had pictures of Scooter Libby with descriptions of how he outed a CIA spy....& both had pictures of Cindy Sheehan with descriptions of how heroic she was against the war. It was sickening....& there it sits for all time.

Clarice

It was a great experience but I can no longer operate on so little sleep.

Jane

I swear, I have forgotten how to speak English.

JM Hanes

The book I want to read will expose the inner workings of Patrick Fitgerald and the Comey crowd.

Sue

I still want to know who Wilson sent out to hijack Bob Novak.

Rick Ballard

JMH,

I'd rather read a "Disgraced Former Prosecutor Denied Parole" piece.

matt

daddy;

Danson is a nice enough soul, albeit misguided. He and I and several of the world's top surfers got very drunk one night at a big soiree'. He was there to receive a special award for saving the waves. I was there with my rowdy neer do well friends.

Neer do wellism usually moderates ones political views once one begins to use the words "you're full of shit" regularly. Actually, the phrase should really be introduced into wider usage, especially on the talk shows.

Perhaps a sign like Groucho used to have that says "BullSh*t" when guests step over the line.As said commodity has grown deeper and deeper under the aegis of politically correct thinking, the need for such indicators to the mass of the boobocracy has grown proportionately.

Bill in AZ sez it's time for Zero to resign

"The book I want to read will expose the inner workings of Patrick Fitgerald..."

That will be a medical/psychology school course of study for years.

narciso

Looking at the firm involved at the heart of this scandal, I don't put anything past them, in the LUN

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