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December 29, 2010

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 Ann


This is Mark Wauck's (auduril) policy on his own blog:

Comment Policy

Regrettably, based on my experience at other blogs, I've decided to moderate all comments, to avoid abusive posts as well as those which I consider nonconstructive or non-pertinent. While this will lead to delays, I can't think of an alternative at this time.

How rich is that!

TM:

You are losing a lot of traffic because one person is abusive and taking over your blog.

Give DrJ a chance.

Compare this to the TSA. Do we all have to be abused because their is one sick puppy in line with us?

Porchlight

Saw a guy at the library wearing a Dukakis button the other day. Ick.

Thomas Collins

Jane queried:

"Anything I have missed?"

Ask Dick about whether Brady or Vick should be NFL MVP, Jane.

 centralcal

Amen, Ann.

Threadkiller

NK engages TK in lively debate:

”I am unpersuaded by TK, British Imperial law has no bearing on the US Constitution.”

TK asks relevant questions:

”NK, if you were born in Britian to a U.S. dad and a British mom and the laws of both countries grant you citizenship at birth; would you not be a U.S. citizen because the US Constitution equally has no bearing on British Imperial law? Do you believe that no such thing as a dual citizen, at birth, exists?

NK responds in such a way TK believes he has engaged him:

”TK-- if a second country confers citizenship on a "natural born" American citizen, and the American takes no affirmative act to use the foreign citizenship for some benefit for himself or that second country, then in my opinion, the second country citizenship has no constitutional bearing.”

TK politely asks:
”Thanks NK.
Does that mean you do or don't think a dual citizen is eligible for POTUS?
Did the founders intend to leave an opening for a Brit to be POTUS as long as he "showed no affirmative act to use the foreign citizenship for some benefit for himself or that second country"? Why disqualify naturalized citizens if this is the only test?”

NK does not respond to my question, but does add to the debate:
”TK-- I agree finally releasing the Long Form BC is Sauron's-- I mean Soros-- plan to suppress legitimate questions of who is BHO? But I don't think it works; the BC will show inconvenient facts…”

TK joins the new topic while still pressing for an answer:
I agree NK. My concern is if one of those facts is he was born a dual citizen (something he has admitted to anyways). How do we stop a dual citizen like Anwar al-Awlaki from running for POTUS, if we accept this as a form of precedent?

NK:

”TK-- that is to be seen. Let's see the Long Form and the other docs; the 'dual citizen' issue is not yet ripe for a national discussion. It may become a political issue, once we see the docs”

TK:
”On a more personal discussion:.
Do you believe a dual citizen is eligible for POTUS?”

NK:
”On a more personal discussion:.
Do you believe a dual citizen is eligible for POTUS?
Posted by: Threadkiller | December 28, 2010 at 04:14 PM
ANSWER: It Depends.....”

TK challenges:
”…1/3 of the eligibility requirements to currently be POTUS are up for grabs.
Yeah, lets wait until it is 2/3, then we will have something political to talk about.

NK gets personal:
TK-- you're obsessing now. I am afraid you are stumbling into a place that looks a lot like An-Drool Land. Not good.

TK makes a plea for clean debate:
”Too bad.
More than half the thread I was accused of being a birther. When you figured out I was not one of you, insults flew my way.
Janet thanks for jumping in. Did you read this thread?
"An-Drool" looses when he starts insulting you guys. Yet I lose when you start insulting me.
Just because you can't defend your positions does not make you right.
One question stumps the panel.
Hope you are proud of your debate skills.

I will now do something anduril won't do”.


NK shoots TK in the back:
BTW--TK-- you aren't obsessing, you're an idiot. An-Drool makes an honest case-- he obsesses and reaches nasty conclusions, but he's sincere. You....., well you know the rest.”

TK gets medieval on NK:
I will not reprint what I said.

Now the delicate genius, on this thread, declares:

”Trolls and cyberbullies don't exercise speech, they try to supress speech by those with whom they disagree.”

And:

”I respect that; I don't respect spiteful/obnoxious attempts to suppress speech. You know who you are.”

That is how you operate NK. Can you debate without hate? You liked anduril when it came to insulting me. Do you have a different opinion of him over here?


anduril

"junk"

I'm truly sorry you should think that. The "junk" that I post (and/or link to) comes largely from highly regarded and mainstream (but always responsible) sites. For example, two yesterday were from The Atlantic and the WT. Are Jeffrey Goldberg's views "junk"? Maybe, but I rarely write anyone off entirely. My views have also been mirrored by such "junk" artists as David Petraeus. I'm open to reasoned criticism of any of this, but sadly rarely encounter it.

I understand that foreign policy isn't your bag, for the most part, although you seem to be getting a glimmering that there was something deeply wrong about Bushie's policies. Almost all of the "junk" is related to that sorry episode in American history, for which you were a vociferous cheerleader in the past. You apparently haven't figured out yet how to deal the unfolding ramifications of that misguided adventure.

bgates

I have lost track of the number of times I banned the Semanticlown based on IP address.

Nuts. I had hoped you just hadn't tried that yet. My preference would have been banning, then scrolling by, then registration.

What is involved in registration, anyway? It seems like there ought to be a way to do it that could preserve pseudonymity for Melinda.

Henry - I think so. It looks like you can get Google Chrome on the phone (as a browser), and Chrome supports Greasemonkey. I'd suggest trying that.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

BGates, when I click on teh edit button on teh narcisolater bos on the left I get a request to pick my favorite text editor. Of course I have none, and wouldn't know one if I fell over it. Any suggestions?

anduril

So, will no one address this point:

"2. Directly above your post is a clear example of way OT and abusive posting, and one which is repeated regularly: Jane advertising her site--actually pasting in her entire schedule and soliciting ideas for her show. Please--she dares criticize me? But that's my point. Some wish to turn this forum into mere social networking for their particular group of friends. I deal in ideas."

It appears that what the JOMers want is a highly personal policy by TM, by which certain favored posters can ignore all rules, such as those set out by Jim Miller, while posters whose views are disfavored are banned.

anduril

Notepad, idiot. You have it if you have windoze.

clarice

Who will die this year? Bloomberg will--politically at least, The leaks of his staff working with the odious GZM grifters followed by the city's inept handling of the storm piked on top of his nanny state instrusiveness . Did you know Mr low salt no transfats on the menu flies to his place in Bermuda every weekend where he gobbles up steak at his fave boite, steak which he liberally SALTS?

Dead as a doornail.

anduril

you're welcome.

Cecil Turner

Any suggestions?

Notepad.

I think I'm a convert to this here narcisolator thingie. I particularly like the way it cleans even the "Recent Comments" headers on the side. (The trolls are, like, gone.) I'd tried FF before and found it cumbersome, this version seems much better.

And TK, nothing personal, but moving on seems to be the ticket. One more like the above, and you'll join he-whom-I-no-longer-see.

Jim Ryan

What Jane said, TM.

Jim Ryan

Er, when she said thanks to TM and all that.

anduril

Jim Ryan, she SHOULD be grateful--she uses his site for shameless self promotion.

Tom Maguire
Personally, I am fine with whatever he decides. Over to you TM.

Thanks very much. My inner arsonist is still fuming for an out of the box solution.

And back over to Anduril:

By the same token, I've never presumed that TM has or should have either 1) the time to research just what led JOMers to go on their peculiar warpath against my views or 2) the interest in such personal matters. Suffice it to say, there is a history.

What you have presumed is that your history, and your resulting boorish behavior, is in some way of general interest; in that, you are wrong.

Maybe I should have stated the obvious more bluntly - Anduril, you are routinely long-winded and off topic; the endless cut-and-pastes of material are not welcome. The topic shifts are not welcome. In short, you are not welcome.

If you have a problem with Clarice or anyone else, feel free to track down their email and take it up with them, or start your own blog and denounce them with all the wit and imagination to which we have grown sadly accustomed.

From NK:

Tom is more tolerant than I am, and, I would guess, has much less free time, so he can't be expected to baby sit as much as I do. But he can explain what comments are inappropriate at this site.

It's a fair point, but... I don't think for as moment that Anduril is sincerely trying to contribute to the discussion but simply lacks the social skills necessary to sense that his outreach is failing.

In any case, lots of the folks here have been stopping by for years, and have a pretty good sense of what is appropriate, and what topic shifts will be of general interest.

As an example of the ways this does not lead to a clear rule, let me recycle some more Anduril:

Directly above your post is a clear example of way OT and abusive posting, and one which is repeated regularly: Jane advertising her site--actually pasting in her entire schedule and soliciting ideas for her show. Please--she dares criticize me?

A quick Google on this site for "shameless self-promotion" kicks up such blasts from the past as this:

A key ground rule - we encourage shameless self-promotion, so this is the time to hype your personal favorites down in the comments, ...

Which has always been true, and when Anduril sets up his own blog he will surely be free to use these comments to introduce short, concise, brief links to his no-doubt fascinating material.

Sue

I don't want Tom to have to do extra work controlling the playground. He might decide to shut down the playground. Use the SOB method.

I'm wondering who all Cecil put on the list. ::grin::

Threadkiller

How do I move on Cecil? I enjoy all that this site offers. If it were face to face would you let someone insult you and claim it is the people who insult others that are the problem?

It is personal to me. I must already be in the "whom-I-no-longer-see" club if no one protests what NK did.

I worked hard to gain everybody’s respect when I joined. Who knew how easy it was to lose it.

 centralcal

We LOVE you Tom Maguire! We LOVE your blog and your comment community!

ANDURIL HAS A BLOG - HAS HAD IT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME!!!!!!! Try to find any comments on his blog.

NK

One of life's Iron Laws: respect is hard to earn, easy to lose.

PD

YOu are dead wrong anduril.

This counts as feeding, not shunning. And you see that it led to counter-response.

Please, no feeding. Of any kind.

Jim Ryan

Not surprised that IP banning hasn't worked on El Sicko. Someone sick enough to try to torment the grieving would certainly go to the local libraries to get enough computers to do it. (Fred Phelps travels miles to do it.) Someone on the SSDI dole because of being so sick would have enough time to do so.

PD

I'll add my my thanks for TM for his site. A solution shouldn't be more work for *him* since he makes the site available in the first place.

Cecil Turner

I'm wondering who all Cecil put on the list. ::grin::

So far: anduril and bunkerbuster. Surprisingly simple and efficacious.

I must already be in the "whom-I-no-longer-see" club if no one protests what NK did.

Whatever it was, I skimmed by it so fast it made zero impression. Don't care to see a recap, and certainly not several. (Besides, if tactical advice is appreciated, short snarky sniping is more effective.)

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

TM,

You rock!

And PD, you are right.

Sue

Maybe now that Dear Leader has made his view of the situation clear, things will get better. We really do love our Dear Leader. Hip, hip, hooray!

boris

"How do I move on Cecil?"

Once your sparring partner refuses to continue on your terms and resorts to unfair comparisons ... it is better to take your final shot and move on rather than validate the comparison.

NK

To Boris: those are fair debate protocols.

Threadkiller

Thanks boris.

Danube of Thought

Many, many thanks, Tom Maguire. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers and sisters love this place, and are genuinely grateful to you.

glasater

Echoing DOT -- many thanks to TM!

NK

Ditto on what DOT said.

Old Lurker

"I worked hard to gain everybody’s respect when I joined. Who knew how easy it was to lose it."

Not to worry, TK. Boris has good advice for you.


Old Lurker

Ditto, DoT.

 centralcal

Mega-dittoes, DoT!!!!

Just for a chuckle, I have to post this Jim Geraghty tweet:

Drudge headline: "Man in Hillary mask robs bank." How certain are they? Remember, she has a lot of campaign debt left...

lol!

anduril
TM: What you have presumed is that your history, and your resulting boorish behavior, is in some way of general interest; in that, you are wrong.

And here I thought I'd made myself perfectly clear:

me: I've never presumed that TM has or should have either 1) the time to research just what led JOMers to go on their peculiar warpath against my views or 2) the interest in such personal matters.

Words of one syllable? I'm grasping here...

TM: Maybe I should have stated the obvious more bluntly - Anduril, you are routinely long-winded and off topic; the endless cut-and-pastes of material are not welcome. The topic shifts are not welcome. In short, you are not welcome.

I think I get it. But you fail to address the fact that other posters are routinely OT and likewise long winded. Without even checking the threads for the last few days I might cite the discussion of the Tale of Genji. You do remember your Tale of Genji thread, right? And if you check out the posting history of that commenter you'll find a similar history. So it appears that topic shifting and long winded and off topic posting are largely in the eyes of the beholders around here, and brings us back to my point about the prevailing orthodoxy here. For my part, I don't normally complain about the OT posting and often inane chatter.

TM: I don't think for as moment that Anduril is sincerely trying to contribute to the discussion but simply lacks the social skills necessary to sense that his outreach is failing.

In any case, lots of the folks here have been stopping by for years, and have a pretty good sense of what is appropriate, and what topic shifts will be of general interest.

Since you quote NK, I suppose it's fair to respond with my own NK quote:

NK: An-Drool makes an honest case-- he obsesses and reaches nasty conclusions, but he's sincere.

An-Drool. That's me.

As for me, I am sincerely trying to contribute--but a personal apologia is, well, beneath me. As for topics of general interest and topic shifting to accommodate that general interest, I'm afraid you're quite mistaken in your judgment. You seem to think that the Middle East and the impact on the US of events there is not of general interest here. I beg to differ, and any fair minded perusal of the comments here would show that the ME is, in fact, a topic of great interest among many posters here. However, my take on that topic is not welcomed here by some vociferous posters. Once again, the prevailing social orthodoxy.

TM: when Anduril sets up his own blog he will surely be free to use these comments to introduce short, concise, brief links to his no-doubt fascinating material.

I'll keep that in mind, but I doubt whether I'll take you up on that. If I started a blog I wouldn't be posting on topics that would be of general interest here.

However, I'm a fair minded and adaptable person. Like others, I'm grateful to you for the forum that you've provided me--however unwillingly. How about this: I'll see about adapting my style more in line with your preferences, and you see about encouraging open, reasoned discussion on your site?

Specter

Geez...now we're becoming "ditto-heads"...LOL.

But seriously - while I was incommunicado one of the things I kept hoping for was to come back here and find the same people hanging out and discussing actual, interesting topics.

So - My thanks to TM.

Specter

ummm...and all the regulars too! ;)

Thomas Collins

Threadkiller, I think each of us moves on in our own way. I think the best way to move on is to ignore insults, although I have to admit that the insults directed at me amuse me (I am amused that the insulters take time out of their day to insult me, and sometimes the insults are pretty close to the truth about certain aspects of my personality) to the point that I on occasion enjoy some back and forth snark. Above all, I think the most difficult thing to do is remember that the insulter may be having a bad day and has redeeming features in himself or herself (I realize that at some point that each of us must decide the "having a bad day" explanation doesn't cut it). In any event, the best result would be if you and NK could have some sort of "cyberdrink" exchange that would acknowledge your disagreement and your humanity, but obviously that is not for me to dictate.

Danube of Thought

OK--I've got Greasemonkey, and I've installed the Narcisolator. When I go to "Manage User Scripts" I get the Narcisolator in the left panel. So far so good.

But when I click on "edit," I don't get the "var Known Trolls etc." Instead a window opens and I'm looking at the contents of a folder in my photos.

WTF? Extraneus?

narciso

The difference is most posters, show some sense of humor, share some personal detail,
some humanity,don't badger people with long diatribes, from dubious sources, that's kind of why Steyn is one of the best host fill ins.

Thanks TM for providing this forum.

Pagar

""Anything I have missed?"
Jane, Might want to mention our Latin America foreign policy appears to be to win friends for Chavez at any cost.

First it was Honduras, Now it appears to be Columbia. Hugo Chavez Communazi.

Now, the Washington Post reports the new Columbian President calls Chavez "his New Best Friend".


Danube of Thought

The window that pops up says "choose text editor first" up at the top. I think Jane and I are at the same impasse.

Cecil Turner

I think Jane and I are at the same impasse.

Browse up to the highest level, then go to C:windows and select "notepad" (should have the little notepad icon) from the long list of files. Then hit the "open" button.

DrJ

Cecil, I think they are both on Macs.

Specter

What type of computer DOT?

Cecil Turner

Urk. Mac users should have something called "textedit" under the applications folder (but it's been years since I used one, so better check with somebody smarter).

 centralcal

I am stuck too, DoT. Can't seem to find where notepad is located.

Tom Maguire
BTW he [Anduril] does have his own blog, LUNed under his name. Guess what...nobody goes there which is why he comes to better hoods seeking out his prey.

OMG - I followed the link and this is far and away the best practical joke I have ever been a part of.

I can't even decide which is funniest. Let me start with the blog intro:

meaning in history

this blog develops the idea that a theory of man in history can be worked out around the theme that man's self expression in culture and society is motivated by the desire to find meaning in man's existence. i proceed by summarizing seminal works...

I mean, "Huh?" I quit after re-reading it three times, but if anyone else can handle it, feel free.

The most recent entry, from August 2010, is not about J Pollard or Clarice. Instead, we get this:

Eliade: From Theogony to Philosophy

While Frank Moore Cross' account of the transition from archaic ontology is more theoretically complete, including a fuller account of the relationship between theogonic and cosmogonic gods and myths, in Myth and Reality (1963) Mircea Eliade offers his own analysis...

I bet he does!

But the capper that leaves me certain that someone is pulling my leg is the comment policy explained on the right:

Comment Policy

Regrettably, based on my experience at other blogs, I've decided to moderate all comments, to avoid abusive posts as well as those which I consider nonconstructive or non-pertinent. While this will lead to delays, I can't think of an alternative at this time.

Anduril has a problem with non-pertinent posts? I can't make this up.

Extraneus

I'm late to the voting, but I'd go with some form of community banning system if it was possible to do. Something along the lines of boris's polling idea, where commenters could vote somebody off the island and someone like DrJ or a few people with privileges could handle the drudgery to save TM from having to do it.

Even though I use the narcisolator and don't see commenters I choose to ignore, this blog gets linked enough at Instapundit, who has quoted or linked to actual comments on numerous occasions, so it's not just regular readers who have to wade through the muck. It's a shame that Insty's readers come here to such a nice island only to have to walk on a polluted beach.

But as TM mentioned, banning probably woudn't work. One problem with IP banning is that lots of people have dynamic IP addresses. The IP stays the same for a few days, and then the cable company changes it for whatever reason, so that won't work. Name banning can easily be defeated. So banning probably isn't going to be able to work.

I'm with others who say that registration would inhibit new commenters, so I'd vote against that.

The best solution is probably shunning, and the narcisolator can help.

BumperStickerist

long time lurker, first time commenter ...

the group dynamic's changed over the past three years or so. The comments tend to not be a continuance of the topic Tom started in the post but more a "Cheers" sort of continuance of various conversations.

A Moveable cyber-Feast as it were.

an agreement among commenters to stick to topic-related points might be useful ... or a PM function so that "Hi!" stuff can be sent privately would help, imo.

The role of "Windy Self-Aggrandizing Contrarian" has been played by a variety of characters here ... from the ur-WSAC JukeBoxGrad to present.

That said, I read JoM for the bon mots, the pithy summations, and Tom's commonsense take on various goings-on.

I can bypass the WSAC comments safely - if he/she can't be bothered to read and summarize the source material and post a precis of that ... why should I?

-30-

bgates

Cecil's right, TextEdit is the Mac equivalent of Notepad.

 centralcal

I am on WindowsXP, I think. (at work computer)

Threadkiller

--“(Besides, if tactical advice is appreciated, short snarky sniping is more effective.)”--
I will try, Cecil:


I guess we all have our moments when we think we are engaging someone of quality.

">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RnqTTNO3nI"> Arthur

”Arthur: You're a hooker? Jesus, I forgot! I just thought I was doing GREAT…”

I mistook your intentions NK.

*****

TC. I have no problem going back to a fair fight. Thank you for your thoughts.
:-)

Jim Ryan

Now there's a guy on Drudge saying he saw the baby get born. Look, he's got a birth certificate. It's just that it's a little embarrassing:

MOTHER: Stanley Ann Dunham
FATHER:

Stanley Ann wasn't sure or didn't want to say. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but some people could feel embarrassed by publicizing it. Dreams of My Father. Etc.

Specter

If you're using a PC you can do the following to get at Notebook:

1) Click Start=>All Programs=>Accessories
2) Highlight and right-click WordPad
3) select Send To=>Desktop (creates desktop shortcut)
4) Now do the edit sequence for GreaseMonkey
5) On that first screen, click the dropdown arrow
6) select Desktop
7) select the WordPad shortcut

The editor should open - and from then on you won't need to go through all of that.

OK?

Specter

uhhh...first line "Notebook = Wordpad"

Specter

The Mac program is called "TextEdit"

Extraneus

Notepad.exe is in C:\WINDOWS on my system, cc. Also in C:\WINDOWS\System32. If you can navigate to the file itself, that would probably work. (Specter's idea seems pretty easy, too.)

caro

Jane is not on a Mac...yet! As far as I know.

Jane, is your list in order? I would move Scott Brown (despite some of his votes) up and BP oil spill down.

Some of them are all media hype so it is hard to find the real importance.

Finally,I want to add my appreciation dittos to TM.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

DOt,

I had the same problem. Cecil said click on notepad, but I couldn't find it. I clicked on wordpad and filled in Anduril and bunkerbuster. I can still see them, but I haven't rebooted and I'm hoping that will change that.

There was no place to save the stuff in wordpad that I could find so that too may be the problem.

sbw

In the future:

Another option to request from typepad is to be able to vote against a comment -- and, hence, a commenter.

If visitor or regular could set the level of "Troll" votes to tolerate, then we comment viewers would be able to adjust our level of tolerance to abuse.

The downside of this method would be that trolls could stack the deck like Robin of Berkeley.

Tom Maguire

More stuff I can't make up - inspired by sauce for the goose, etc, I re-posted under my name Anduril's first comment (Require reading... whatever) back at the "mark wauck" blog to which he links.

Imagine my non-surprise - the comment was too long and got rejected.

So, mark - why not follow here the rules you apply at home - stay pertinent, and stay brief.

As to pertinence, feel free *not* to trust your own judgment. Your comment above - "As for topics of general interest and topic shifting to accommodate that general interest, I'm afraid you're quite mistaken in your judgment. You seem to think that the Middle East and the impact on the US of events there is not of general interest here. I beg to differ..." is inappropriate to the point of being delusional.

And this:

How about this: I'll see about adapting my style more in line with your preferences, and you see about encouraging open, reasoned discussion on your site?

needs to be re-thought, and quickly. Or are you under the impression that you and I are now co-bloggers since you are the biggest pain in my butt right now?

Extraneus

Once you edit the script file, you shouldn't be able to close Notepad or Wordpad without saving the file. One way or another, the file needs to be saved.

As for the commenters you want to filter out, I think the narcisolator requires the capitalization to be correct (e.g., I don't think "pest123" will work for "Pest123").

Jim Ryan

Jane, yes, you have to save when you update the file.

Cecil Turner

There was no place to save the stuff in wordpad that I could find so that too may be the problem.

Wordpad should work. When you paste in the line for trolls you want to evaporate, make sure you put it under the line:" var knownTrolls = new Array();"

And the format has to be like this:

knownTrolls.push("anduril");
knownTrolls.push("bunkerbuster");

(You can copy and paste those if you like . . . ) If you close it out and then try to edit a second time, your changes should be visible, which will tell you if you did it correctly.

Extraneus

Ctrl-S will save in Wordpad or Notepad, or typically any other Windows editor or program.

caro

Grrr,that Robin must be really cheating. I am doing my best to vote three times today as I am in transit, but oh,dear,we are really falling behind.

NK

TM-- Mr. "wauck's" blog rules prove he has absolutely no sense of irony, or is borderline delusional. Leaving it at that works for me.

jorgxmckie

I don't know if this would work, [and personally I just scroll down, ignoring trolls the same way I would an obnoxious drunk in a local bar {neither one is all that hard to spot or all that interesting, really}] but perhaps there could be a 'locked'
first comment that simply says,

"Please don't respond to/feed the trolls."
The Mgt

Sue

Sweet. I could do this all day. Watch Dear Leader slice and dice. You have a cheering section, sir. And I am the head cheerleader!

Jim Ryan

Basically, I usually Narcisolate myself. Because scrolling along I see my comments and say "Not this idiot again" and into the killfile I go.

Extraneus

lol

(Too bad he doesn't know what I'm laughing about.)

 centralcal

Woo Hoo - it worked!!!!! sick puppy has completely disappeared. uh, along with avatars and also pagination??????

Tom, you are utterly on fire today and, like Sue, I am in the cheering squad (she's Head cheerleader)!!!!!

 centralcal

oops - mistaken about pagination. Ignore that.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

the comment was too long and got rejected.

OMG!

Got it Caro - I think BP was the beginning of the end for Obama, altho Brown should have been.

clarice

Bravo, Tom. From time to time others have noted the hypocrisy of his banning comments at his site but no one seems to have bothered to attempt to run his own post here back on his site.

Tom Maguire

Maybe I can bring this to a constructive resolution by accepting Anduril's suggestion:

If TM prefers to turn the comments section of his site into a social networking forum (and just take a glance through the threads if you don't accept that characterization) in which no dissent from the social orthodoxy is allowed, that's his decision to make. For my part, I'll regard that as acquiescence to mob rule.

Fine - Anduril, I prefer to view this as a social networking site. Please regard that as my acquiescense to mob rule, consider yourself out of the network, and move on.

Ignatz

--The most recent entry, from August 2010, is not about J Pollard or Clarice.--

As near as I can tell the underlying theme of anduril's blog is that Jewish history, especially as contained in the OT is a myth. People can draw their own conclusions as to his reasoning and motives.

--Or are you under the impression that you and I are now co-bloggers since you are the biggest pain in my butt right now?--

I thought our proprietor might find that suggested bargain a bit much. Didn't think he'd let us know just how delightfuly presumptuous he found it though.

Specter

LOL

Danube of Thought

Specter, I'm on a Mac using Snow Leopard (which I think is OSX).

Threadkiller

Allow me to offer Anduril the first recipe of the new social site:

Humble Pie.

Humbles are deer entrails and when venison was the sole preserve of the English aristocracy ,the poor peasants were given the entrails ,the guts or whatever you call the nasty bits !!

Ingredients

· Entrails of a deer -stomach .washed intestine ,liver ,etc shopping list
· beef suet to the same weight as the deer entrails shopping list
· 10 cloves shopping list
· tsp mace shopping list
· tsp nutmeg shopping list
· tsp cinammon shopping list
· pinch salt shopping list
· 4 pounds of currants shopping list
· half a pound of candy'd orange,lemon and citron peel shopping list
· half a pound of dates shopping list
· pastry
How to make it

· Parboil the Humbles of a Deer
· Take all the Fat off them
· Add the Beef Suet and mince it very small together
· Season it with Cloves,Mace ,Nutmeg ,and a little Cinammon and Salt
· Put some Currants,Candy's and Dates ,stoned and sliced
· Fill your Pye and lid it
· When baked put in some Sack and serve it

This ancient recipe is from Castle Howard in Yorkshire and is the inspiration for the saying "to eat humble pie " as only the peasants ate this pie ,the better meat being saved for the aristocrats .It was written down in 1734.

I am ate my piece earlier.

Threadkiller

I am ate my piece earlier.

PaulL

Even the little excerpts of Anderoil that TM is posting are hard to take. What a loser.

Specter

DoT,

When you're in GreaseMonkey and get the screen asking what text editor you want to use it should give you the ability to navigate. I believe that the Mac OSX had a two-sided navigation screen for finding files - the right side listed the actual files and the left side has icons showing different types/areas for files (i.e. Desktop, Applications, Documents, etc.).

If that is what your screen looks like, click "Applications" on the left, and then scroll to "TextEdit" on the right. Highlight it and hit "OK" or "Open" - whichever is the button to accept the selection...

I think that will work....

Stephanie

my two cents...

I keep this blog in my favs for a very simple reason... TM posts interesting topics and the discussions of them are worthy, but the people here read far and wide and bring interesting tidbits back to this site alerting us to each other's interests.

It is damn near impossible to read even a smidge of the interesting and relevant stuff that appears on the nets daily, but the people who post here bring their little morsels from the far flung reaches of the net and post them here whereby performing a service that is just as valuable as Insty.

The off topic and/or personalized info is what make this a community not a roboticized comment hive. Sick puppy is just envious that the trivialities of the lives revealed here are of more interest to readers than his own stylized rantings on his topic du jour.

anduril

I prefer to view this as a social networking site.

I had thought you'd have too much pride to make such a belittling admission.

Specter

I keep this blog in my favs for a very simple reason... TM posts interesting topics and the discussions of them are worthy, but the people here read far and wide and bring interesting tidbits back to this site alerting us to each other's interests.

Exactly Stephanie....

Danube of Thought

TM, you are one of the funniest men alive.

Rick Ballard

Ummm - do I have to make my bones anew to be a member of the Maguire Mob or do prior hits count? I sure hope Gaelic is no more difficult than Italian...

Danube of Thought

Thanks, Specter. I'll give it a try.

clarice

I love Tom, too, for all the same reasons that brought us here and keep us coming back.

Jean Robart

First comment, and probably last..BUT I can't resist. Re T.M. @ 1:50 and 2:14, WHOOT!!!

JeanR

sbw

First comment, and probably last

More, JeanR. WHOOT!!!'s are important.

Boatbuilder

I agree with Stephanie.

I also think SBW's advice regarding dog training is the last word.

I notice that the puppy is yelping already; he'll howl a lot louder and longer but will eventually get tired of it.

Also--I don't view Bunkerbuster as a troll. He's a jerk sometimes, and usually wrong, and can get nasty when he's off his meds, but does not generally post in an effort to destroy the ongoing conversation. Happy New Year, BuBu.

Danube of Thought

I pretty much agree re poor ol' Bubu. He is an earnest young man who posts comically stilted lectures, inevitably sprinkling them liberally with gross errors of fact. But when properly chastened he goes away.

BobDenver

I also agree with Stephanie. These comments work as a great news aggregator because of the links provided by the engaged commenters; in addition, so many commenters are quite engaging in discussing their interests. I strive in my rare comments to be clever or smart, because I feel that's the required level of discourse.

Rob Crawford

BobDenver:
I strive in my rare comments to be clever or smart, because I feel that's the required level of discourse.

Oh, don't let that stop you! I certainly have never stopped for fear of not appearing smart or clever!

PD

One thing of value I find here is recommendations of books that I would otherwise never have discovered or read.

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