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December 02, 2010

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Annoying Old Guy

Corporate interests would still have to buy off multiple small states, which is not a small hurdle, so frankly that scenario doesn't worry me. I definitely think it would be better to take the 9th and 10th Amendment seriously rather than adding yet another Amendment. What makes the proponents think SCOTUS won't creatively interpret "repeal" to mean, say, "censured" rather than "inoperative"?

Ignatz

--Smll states are probably more easily bought.--

Very true. Come and enjoy the virtues of a state immune to corporate greed such as CA, a wholly owned and thoroughly looted subsidiary of SEIU, AFSCME, NEA etal.

Danube of Thought

The long and the short of it is that Dana Milbank is far from a serious person.

srp

CA is worth than that. No one group actually owns and controls the whole thing, so they all loot myopically and make the pie even smaller. Unorganized crime can be worse than the organized kind.

srp

Make that "worse" than that. I normally don't lisp when I type.

Rob Crawford

This would weaken the feds, which would weaken the corporations. Needing to buy off 30-odd states instead of 30-odd Senators would cramp their style.

And with lefty states pledging to award their electoral votes based on the national "popular vote" and not the will of their residents, this will give small states a bit of their power back.

bgates

any federal law - from civil rights to health care

I wonder what made him pick those as the poles of the vast world of federal law. Most popular to least popular? Most to least effective? Least to most likely to be repealed, one way or another?

Danube of Thought

"from civil rights to health care"

The two are plainly equivalent. To repeal either one is as morally repugnant as repealing the other.

Threadkiller

"from civil rights to health care"

As a Blue Dog, Obama is cleansing the threads of previous gaffes and explaining himself better now.

"They get bitter, they cling to civil rights or health care or antipathy to people who aren't like them or pro illegal immigrant sentiment or anti-free trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Gmax

I cant tell you how many lefties told me that health care was a "right". So its not a surprise that Dana Douchebag conflates the two.

Melinda Romanoff

I would like a dash-cam for those Corporate efforts to buy off the smaller states, particularly for the state of Wyoming.

I'd buy a flat screen for that alone.

Rick Ballard

Could Milbank possibly be so ignorant as to not know that the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions establishing a doctrine of nullification were authored by Founders Thomas Jefferson and James Madison? Does he believe that the concept sprang fully formed from the brow of Calhoun?

If the intent is to place the writer on the same intellectual level as the President, Vice-President and Attorney General, then I must say that Milbank stands revealed as being a simpleton of the same caliber.

Danube of Thought

Imagine James Madison appearing on TV in an orange hunting vest.

MayBee

It's an interesting worry, considering the Federal government just put gobtrillions into the hands of NY City/Connecticut bankers. We can have businesses try to buy off a few small states with their own money, or the Federal Government willingly buy off 2 states with our money.

Old Lurker

Hey DoT...you're supposed to be on vacation?

Hugh Dudgeon

The chief argument put forward by proponents of the 17th Amendment was to eliminate the bribery of the various states legislators by Senatorial candidates. Of course the bribery still goes on, and while it is a lot more expensive to buy off the various states voters, our current Senatorial candidates do have the advantage of vast federal dollars at their disposal. This is Progress!

MarkO

The Civil Rights Movement is like a hoary legal precedent. The more you make your issue look like it, the better off you are. Plagiarism at its best.

Nowadays, everything is racial. That's what post-racial means.

Clarice

The closer we get to Christmas the more arch TM's posts become.

"Calhoun", Rick. You seriously think Dana ever heard of Calhoun?

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

Doubtful - unless Zinn mentioned him. I want the two minutes spent establishing that Milbank is a cretin back. What kind of a simple test must someone fail in order to become a columnist?

Clarice

That's a rhetorical question, isn't it?

Dale

I have no problem with states holding more power as was intended when the Constitution was drafted and ratified. The 17th amendment concentrated far too much power at the federal level.

narciso the harpoon

Another ignorant Yalie, and a Bonesman to boot, in the LUN

Danube of Thought

I'm always on vacation, OL. We've just temporarily moved the feast to the south.

To the man with only a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To Jesse JacksoN everything looks like Selma.

 Ann

Hope you are having a great time, Dot!

and

Happy Birthday, Ladies!!! If you received great gifts, please share. (I need ideas for Christmas this year.)

Um...those would be for me and of course, others. :)

tommy mc donnell

in a free country no one has a right to anything that someone else has to work to provide.

Captain Hate

"Calhoun", Rick. You seriously think Dana ever heard of Calhoun?

He may think it's "Calhoun the lawyer" from Amos 'n Andy. Dana might have been a big fan before he found out it wasn't PC to be a fan.

narciso the harpoon

There was a Calhoun at his high school, that;s about as much as he knows, note he was a member of the Progressive Party at Yale

Clarice

Ann. you are so clever at all this photo stuff--zazzle allows you to create your own stationary, notecards, lothing etc etc..especially fun for kids to see their pics and drawings on stationery, postcards, stickers and stampe..

narciso the harpoon

Here is the Ledeen column, in the LUN. One wouldn't think they would be cannibalizing
their scientists that way, then again, having
read of Johannes Stark, in In Search of Klingsor, nothing surprises me anymore

 Ann

That is perfect, Clarice! Thank You.

I have been trying to find a poster of Tim Riggins (Taylor Kitsch) from "Friday Night Lights" for my daughter as a joke for Christmas. (Can you believe there is not a fan club poster for this guy?) Now I can make my own.

Anyone else want one? Let me know...:)

Photobucket

Photobucket

Nice Eyes!

(If nothing else, I am putting smiles on JOM ladies tomorrow morning with their coffee and thanks to Clarice I will have something to smile at when I clean the carp out of my daughter's room.)

What a great country.

 Ann


Jane, Here is something for your show:


Rangel to TWT: I don't deal in average American citizens (VIDEO)

Who you gonna watch?

R-i-g-g-g-g-i-n-n-n-n-s!!!

Charlie (Colorado)

They apparently don't teach about the Constitutional Convention and the Great Compromise any more, eh?

 Ann

More morning coffee smiles:

Rumblings of Discontent — on Palin

The most basic underpinning for this view is the notion that she can’t beat Obama, and I think this is a profoundly mistaken assumption. It is based on a too-abstract understanding of the qualifications for the presidency: It holds Palin up against an ideal presidential résumé, and finds her inadequate — which is true enough, but neither fair nor quite relevant. It’s important to remember that in a 2012 general election, she would be confronting not an ideal presidential profile, but an all-too-human flesh-and-blood opponent. The choice between Palin and Obama, phrased in the least flattering (to Palin) possible way, is a choice between a woman who may turn out to be seriously inadequate to the job and, therefore, become a failed president; and a man who has already convincingly demonstrated that he is seriously inadequate to the job and, therefore, already is a failed president. This rather changes the “electability” issue, doesn’t it?

Touchdown!!!

Dave (in MA)

So I flip on Howie Carr's show on my way home from work and he's got Rob Schneider on to pimp his Boston stand-up appearance this weekend. http://audio.wrko.com/m/audio/35765006/funny-man-rob-schneider-hangs-with-howie.htm>[audio] Of course he bashes Palin. The politics starts around 31:30. All I can say is that someone who says "supposably" has no business insulting Sarah Palin's intellect. And he doesn't believe that Obama said "57 states", unless it was when he was eight, or joking.

daddy

"Could Milbank possibly be so ignorant as to not know..."

Yes.

The longer I live the more I come to realize how ignorant of history are our highly credentialed morons.

BR

I'm still celebrating Clarice, Topsecret and Mrs. H&R's birthday.

HAPPPPPPPPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

Captain Hate

Rob Schneider is like most of the SNL tools: A certified dumbass (the "supposably" tells you all you need to know) who isn't demonstrably funnier than Andrew Dice Clay. Guess that great movie career didn't work out so well with works of genius like Deuce Bigalow since he's back doing standup. Howie went much too easy on the little dweeb.

hit and run

DoT:
Imagine James Madison appearing on TV in an orange hunting vest.

...on Keith Olbermann's show.

hit and run

Charlie:
They apparently don't teach about the Constitutional Convention and the Great Compromise any more, eh?

Now that is entirely unfair to "they".

There's scant evidence to suggest that even if "they" had taught it,that Milbank has the capacity to have learned it.

peter

"Anything is feasible if you can spend somebody else's money and never have to pay it back"
LUN

hit and run

Speaking of Olbermann,Bristol has a few words for him http://www.facebook.com/notes/bristol-palin/mr-olbermann-sorry-we-cant-all-be-as-perfect-as-you/174283895932837>on Facebook.

Heh. She's her momma's daughter.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

Thanks Ann, I added it to yesterday's post.

Are we done with Clarice's birthday now?

Harummph!

Janet

Great link Peter, thanks.

Janet

Ann,
Okay, I'm confessing that I'm one of the coffee drinkers enjoying the bad-boy Tim Riggins photos. We really enjoyed the first season (own the DVDs)...but I'm like Narciso in that we haven't seen it recently. I know you can get Friday Night Lights gear, cause I own a Dillon Panthers t-shirt.
What is it with the appeal of the bad-boys? The Riggins character is awful....in a very appealing kind of way! Hah!

Porchlight

peter,

This is a teeny tiny instance of the same thinking as in your LUN, but at the new public library in my neighborhood, there are two spots in the parking lot right near the door that are marked "hybrid vehicle only." I can understand handicapped parking and there the ADA to provide legal underpinning, but how on earth can it be justified to privilege owners of certain kinds of (expensive) cars???? That one really makes me see red.

Also I am not remembering perfectly but I think the hybrid-only spaces are closer to the door than the handicapped spaces. Amazing.

Extraneus

Yeah Porch, I mentioned before that at a major site of a big Fortune 500 corporation I know, there's a small parking lot, close to a large building where over a thousand people work, where only certified car-pooling and hybrid vehicles can park. The rest of the schlubs need to hike about a thousand feet instead - rain, sleet, snow or shine.

Captain Hate

O/T Laura Ingraham just made the valid point that any male stating that they're a "foody" has had his man-card permanently revoked. Speaking of which, Rove will be on the show shortly.

Rob Crawford

CH -- dunno about that. Alton Brown? Not, perhaps, the manliest of men, but give him credit for using power tools in the kitchen.

Captain Hate

The term reeks of douche; as does Rove right now.

Ignatz

Not exactly sure what a foody is but virtually all of the goops on the food network seem to be a little off in one way or another.
Not a Graham Kerr in the bunch, who while more than a little off, was off in the old school, non-metrosexual sort of a way.
I do admit Bobby Flay seems pretty normal and down to earth. Perhaps he's just a better actor.

Rob Crawford

Oh, and another point against your irrational hatred of "foodie": Jungle Jim'a "A Foodie's Paradise".

Now, I have my own reasons to not entirely support the place, but you have to admire a guy who took a little fruit stand by the road and turned it into a... well, "Frankenstein monster of a grocery store" is mild. His store has its own monorail.

Vince

Actually, to have a 2/3 majority out of 50 requires 34, not 33 (just to be precise).

Captain Hate

There's nothing irrational about disliking the use of a term. It's strictly a matter of taste.

Threadkiller

You are telling me there are people other than ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92iLXC93mE8"> Giada De Laurentiis on the Food Network?

Walter

Ext,

If the one you mentioned wasn't AT&T's 2600 Camino Ramon*, there are two near you.

I'm still celebrating Clarice, Topsecret and Mrs. H&R's birthday.

ME TOO!!!

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*Where Scott Adams learned about bureaucracy.

Extraneus

Can't stand Giada after seeing her lecture contestants on one of those "Next Celebrity Chef" contests. The woman needs a smack-down.

Threadkiller

Don't worry Ext, she doesn't talk in the video.

Ignatz

My wife and I are always cracked up by seeing what low cut top Giaaaadddda will be hanging over her fettucine and into the camera lens next.

Porchlight

I can't handle Giada's blaring superbleached teeth.

Rob Crawford

Wait... there's food on Giada's show?!

Neo

If you think there is no religious aspect to the environmental movement, think again.

Global Warming summit begins with prayer to Mayan goddess Ixchel

That's it. I demand we pull out.

Jim Ryan

Bingo:

I still don't think she'd be a good idea as a GOP Presidential candidate. Beginning with the fact that you're taking your best salesperson and making them a manager.
My spidey sense has been telling me Palin should stay with her current occupation. She is a great help there. Plus, this:
So we’re left with Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Tim Pawlenty, Chris Christie, and Bob McDonnell. If you have an extra $100 lying around this holiday season, you might think about going over to Intrade and plopping down 20 bucks on each of them.

boris

I say they all go in a paintball contest and we nominate the winner ... Sarah.

Jim Ryan

No fair, Sarah wins paintball easily. Tournament: a paintball round, a boring-people-to-sleep round (to Daniels, Jindal and Pawlenty's advantage), and a tearing-people-a-new-one round (to Christie's advantage.)

Danube of Thought

Bold Danube gazes upon the Cortez...

...and sees 9.8% unemployment to the north. Where would we be if it weren't for the Summer of Recovery?

Neo
The final vote was 11-7, short of the 14 votes needed to prompt congressional action according to the panel's rules. It was supported by three elected Republicans and three elected Democrats, along with five of Obama's appointees. Three Republicans and three Democrats voted no, along with one Obama appointee.
4 Democrats and 3 Republicans vote NO
Jim Ryan

DoT, if it weren't for the porkulus, unemployment would be at 15%. So Perriello's disgruntled supporters tell me down here.

Obama's economists predicted unemployment would go down after the porkulus. It went up. That means their prediction was very close to the mark. See, they just didn't take into account that the mess George Bush made was worse than they thought. Once you factor that in, up is down.

Rob Crawford

and a tearing-people-a-new-one round (to Christie's advantage.)

Wouldn't bet on that. Palin's a mother of how many kids?

Threadkiller

The only person Palin needs to run against is Rove.

--"So we’re left with Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Tim Pawlenty, Chris Christie, and Bob McDonnell."--

With my $100 I will put $25 on each of the Natural Born candidates.

Jim Ryan

Rob, let's just say I hope I never, ever do anything stupid when Christie is watching.

Neo

Supporters of WikiLeaks around the world are downloading a file the site calls an insurance policy. The files are encrypted with a code so strong it's unbreakable, even by governments.

If anything happens to Assange or the website, a key will go out to unlock the files. There would then be no way to stop the information from spreading like wildfire because so many people already have copies.

Jim Ryan

Oo! TK just busted VP!

Jim Ryan

Wait, which one isn't natural born?

glasater

Jindal?

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

I see Obama went to Afghanistan to avoid the unemployment numbers.

Neo
The signs of a crack-up are everywhere. Democrats still think they can somehow win a news cycle by demonizing John Boehner.
John Boehner is the perfect "man in black" ...
Early reports of Men in Black often described them as men of short stature with swarthy complexions, as if they were deeply tanned.
cathyf

Giada violates the "never trust a skinny cook" rule. One time there was a Thanksgiving show with all the Food Network stars, and at the end they sat down to the feast. All of the other chefs were passing plates down to Giada with comments about "eat this" and "you need some meat on those bones" and "this'll fatten you up"

Sue

I just read today that John Boehner is a chain smoker. That is why Obama hates him. He gets to chain smoke and his wife isn't on national news scolding him for it.

Captain Hate

Yes Sue; I deplore smoking as much as is humanly possible but I approve of somebody being openly forthcoming about their habits. As with everything else in his disgusting life, Jugears McFly is a sneaky little liar about it.

Danube of Thought

That is a rich, tobacco-cured baritone he has.

Minus 18 at Raz today.

Threadkiller

“Tan Man!” I thought the libs were colorblind.


If Jindal's parents had not naturalized prior to his birth he becomes an anchor baby. To include anchor babies as "natural born" would allow Ahmadinejad to bring his pregnant wife over, on a UN trip, and have their child qualify for POTUS if born here.

laura

About three years ago I saw Boehner and Ryan in person at a NR weekend. Ryan was as impressive then as he is now. Boehner came off as a smart ass who was three sheets to the wind and couldn't care what the electorate thought. It was so bad that those of us in the audience kept turning and looking at each other in disbelief. To be honest, I don't know if I was more put off by his seeming inebriation or his disdain for the people that put him in office. Out of the two plus days of panels and speakers, his contribution bothered me the most.
Given his recent display of principle and backbone I have to give him some credit. As I am a relatively optimistic and charitable person I choose to believe either he was having a bad day or preferably the more romantic take that like Grant he just needed the right challenge to rise to the occasion and destroy the opposition.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

I can't post on the other thread. My post button is dim. What should I do?

Janet

Jane, I clear out of everything & then come back. I don't know why it happens.

Threadkiller

Jane, If you are cutting and pasting into the comment box, the button may stay dim until you add new text. I bring some of my comments over from MS Word and I have to press the spacebar, after pasting, to excite the post button.

Janet

Oh...that makes sense Threadkiller. Like having to add text when I post a picture.

Porchlight

I say they all go in a paintball contest and we nominate the winner ... Sarah.

Well, I think she'd win, too, but in fairness she is also the tiniest target (and Christie is the largest).

Regarding the conventional wisdom that people elect the guy they most would enjoy sitting down and having a beer with.

That question is for prosperous, luxurious times. In 2012 it should be: who is the person most likely to have your back in a foxhole?

Easy pick for me.

Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)

I've done all that and erased and refilled in all the info. I think iit is just odd. I will work on it.

cathyf

Jane, I've sometimes had to hit "reload" a bunch of times, or had to close the tab and open a new one with the thread in it.

Danube of Thought

"...have their child qualify for POTUS if born here."

Of course, there is the matter of needing to get about 75 million votes 35 years later.

And if Jenny Jerome Churchill had given birth to baby Winston in New York...

Jeff

please ... evil corporations ?

Threadkiller

--"Of course, there is the matter of needing to get about 75 million votes 35 years later.--

HaHaHa!

But then again, Obama got enough votes.

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