OK, I am back in Arizona. Pejman has a great piece on inflamed rhetoric which reminds me of this jaw-dropper - a Democratic Congressman who last fall said a Republican candidate for Governor should be shot has a guest piece in today's NY Times talking about civility. I kid you not.
Here is the voted-out Rep. Kanjorski (D, PA) last fall:
"Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him [Rick Scott, the Republican candidate for Florida governor] and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."
Here he is today:
Why Politicians Need to Stay Out in the Open
By PAUL E. KANJORSKI
...
Nevertheless, even in this post-9/11 world, the shooting of Ms. Giffords was especially shocking, because it was so personal. She was hunted down far from the symbolic halls of power while performing the most fundamental responsibility of her job, listening to her constituents.
As far as we know, her attacker had no grand political point; I doubt we will ever really understand his motives. What the shooting does tell us, however, is that it is impossible to eliminate the risks faced by elected officials when they interact with their constituents.
We all lose an element of freedom when security considerations distance public officials from the people. Therefore, it is incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect in which political discourse can flow freely, without fear of violent confrontation.
Geez - someone should put Kanjorski against a wall and... read him his public statements. And the Times editors might want to reflect on just who they are turning to for advice on creating "an atmosphere of civility and respect in which political discourse can flow freely, without fear of violent confrontation".
And let's not skip past the Krugman connection. Yesterday Professor Hate told us this:
It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized...
Looks like that ostracism thing is strictly in Krugman's imagination. The same guy who called for a Republican to be shot down is now lecturing the rest of us about preserving civility - in the pages of the Times!
Anybody remember Colin Ferguson, the Long Island RR killer who shot up all those passengers because, he said, he "hated white people?"
I'd appreciate it it one of you would pull together all the editorial expressions of outrage that this spree was caused by the hateful rhetoric of Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson et al. Should be a fun research project.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | January 11, 2011 at 04:44 PM
We finally got rid of the last of the damn bunch including the RINO in-law and now the Camelot crowd is getting a collective stiffy:
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 11, 2011 at 04:44 PM
Pawlenty should receive tutoring from James Taranto, who calmly explains why the NY Times has crossed a moral line and why it is a lie to classify the Arizona shootings as political violence. See LUN (via Instapundit).
Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 11, 2011 at 04:44 PM
TK:
LUM gives you an example column (he writes one most days).
The lead article is great. The metaphor alert is nearly at the bottom of the column. While these alerts aren't in all his columns, they appear in most.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | January 11, 2011 at 04:44 PM
Stephanie,
I sure wish I could watch Neal Cavuto.
Never thougt I'd say that (Love him, but not much of a serious talk tv guy).
Posted by: Donald | January 11, 2011 at 04:45 PM
Michale Medved is wondering why David Brooks had to stress the fact that he doesn't like Sara Palin.
Deep thinker huh?
Posted by: Donald | January 11, 2011 at 04:47 PM
Dave(in MA), aren't those Kennedy trusts funded with bootlegging and commercial real estate monies ever going to run out? I thought perhaps with Patrick's retirement, I would be spared Massachusetts pols sucking up to the Kennedys for awhile. I guess not.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 11, 2011 at 04:50 PM
Okay, I thought this was funny and it makes Rep. King look rather silly with his proposed new bill:
From Jim Geraghty's Campaign Spot at NRO
Posted by: centralcal | January 11, 2011 at 04:50 PM
TC, the funds certainly aren't going to run out due to taxation, I'm certain.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 11, 2011 at 04:52 PM
Kanjorski? Never heard of him. In fact he lost his seat. Palin? One of Fox's darlings and, arguably, the wingnuts top ideotainer.
But really, it's the context that makes all the difference.
Identity conservatives dwell on the importance of guns and the need to use them to fend off government encroachment, liberals don't.
Identity conservatives celebrate violent attempts to solve geopolitical conflicts and dismiss supporters of diplomatic options as "weak." Liberals support diplomacy and believe violence is only ever justifiable as the last resort for self-defense.
Identity conservatives even complain about "feminization" and wax on -- plenty of it right here on this blog -- about how superior soldiers are to other working people.
If you want to fetishize revenge and political violence and bank on blurring distinctions between the behaviors of fringe minorities and majorities, don't expect sympathy when your chickens come home to roost.
Posted by: bunkerbuster | January 11, 2011 at 04:52 PM
Andrea Mitchell still blaming Palin for the shootings.
From the article - Andrea Mitchell speaking - "Former Arizona Congresswoman Ann Kirkpatrick was also targeted by Palin's campaign and lost her reelection bid after also experiencing a number of threats while she was in office."
So "targeted by Palin's campaign" & "lost her reelection bid" ARE SUPPOSE TO BE RELATED to threats Kirkpatrick received? Where is the proof?
If you run against an incumbent Dem are you threatening them? Is that the standard now?
Our lovely Andrea Mitchell -
Posted by: Janet | January 11, 2011 at 04:55 PM
--don't expect sympathy--
We no longer even expect sanity.
Posted by: Ignatz | January 11, 2011 at 04:56 PM
Some cause for optimism. Bruce McQuain on his blog q and o quotes this snippet from CBS about the results of a poll they announced today:
Overall, 57 percent of respondents said the harsh political tone had nothing to do with the shooting, compared to 32 percent who felt it did. Republicans were more likely to feel the two were unrelated – 69 percent said rhetoric was not to blame; 19 percent said it played a part. Democrats were more split on the issue – 49 percent saw no connection; 42 percent said there was.
Independents more closely reflected the overall breakdown – 56 percent said rhetoric had nothing to do with the attack; 33 percent felt it did.
Heh
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | January 11, 2011 at 04:56 PM
A thought about Peter King's "proposal":
Would a Senator's motorcade driving along a country road create a wave of federal crimes in front of it?
Would Air Force One turn people into criminals as it lands and takes off?
If Harry Reid goes to the opening of another shooting range, is he committing a federal crime by picking up a rifle in his own presence?
Posted by: Rob Crawford | January 11, 2011 at 04:57 PM
Bungduster does not complain about "feminization" as he wax off.
Did you give up on reading the links?
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 11, 2011 at 04:58 PM
This info is for Clarice (and Sue) since it was discussed yesterday on another thread and I think they might be interested:
Posted by: centralcal | January 11, 2011 at 04:59 PM
Ben Dover makes great movies.
So far, based on all the evidence I've seen, the shooter shot Giffords because she pissed him off. That happens all the time all over America. Killing from hysterical speech, never.
Posted by: MarkO | January 11, 2011 at 04:59 PM
Is it just me or is BuBu making even less sense than he does with his normal drivel?
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | January 11, 2011 at 05:00 PM
Good point RC. Can a government official hire a private security company? Would they have unarmed guards within the safety circle?
How do they go to the bank with all their bribe money, or do they just have to stuff it in the freezer?
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 11, 2011 at 05:03 PM
Andrea Mitchell, perjurer.
Posted by: MarkO | January 11, 2011 at 05:05 PM
Jim, at first I thought this bungduster was a cleo ordeal, but he still does the "..." at the end of his ramblings. Is cleo that clever? I am worried about him.
Bung, are you ok?...
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 11, 2011 at 05:06 PM
(ducks)
Isn't that "limonata out of lemonade" ?Posted by: cathyf | January 11, 2011 at 05:08 PM
I thought TM's work on this was great but I have to say I think Taranto's column today absolutely nails the NYT and the climate of hate purveyors. Nails it.
Posted by: clarice | January 11, 2011 at 05:10 PM
How do they go to the bank with all their bribe money, or do they just have to stuff it in the freezer?
Clearly they'll have to have the bank guards removed before they even get within two blocks of the bank.
And will the Capitol Hill security have to be disarmed?
What happens if one of the Anointed Pols flys into an airbase conducting combat operations? Do the planes have to be disarmed first? What about any planes flying escort or patrolling the area?
Posted by: Rob Crawford | January 11, 2011 at 05:10 PM
Dave, persuade the guy to hang glide drunk or something. It's your only chance.
Posted by: clarice | January 11, 2011 at 05:11 PM
Bunkerbuster, you may be interested in learning that the most comprehensive piece of scholarship on the feminization of American culture was written by Ann Douglas, who is considered by those in the know (in other words, those tending to your side of the spectrum) to be an unapologetic feminist. I have LUNed a link for you in which you can buy the book. Just part of my continuing effort to help you move beyond your prog talking points mindset so that you can become a serious prog commentator such as Hentoff or Silverglate.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 11, 2011 at 05:13 PM
seriously BuBu are you alright? or is that some hostile girlfriend who has taken over your laptop?
Posted by: NK | January 11, 2011 at 05:14 PM
It was a gun that resulted in six deaths.
-headline from R. Cohen, NYT
So the gun presumably loaded itself, ambulated over to the meet-n-greet and fired itselt into a crowd.
Posted by: lyle | January 11, 2011 at 05:18 PM
NK, you mean young-uns today (I'm thinking bunkerbuster is a twenty or at most thirtysomething) let girlfriends use their laptops? Isn't that the equivalent of we old-uns giving our girlfriends access to our little black books when we were young? :-))
Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 11, 2011 at 05:20 PM
Wow, Janet. That mug of Mitchell resembles her husband's more every passing day. Dour much, Andrea?
Posted by: lyle | January 11, 2011 at 05:23 PM
Pawlenty, who could find himself running against Palin in the 2012 GOP presidential primaries, said "it wouldn't have been my style to put the cross hairs on there" in an interview on ABC's Good Morning America.
Pawlenty is a wuss and the Powerline guys suck.
Ironically, Pawlenty's new book is titled "Courage To Stand" hahahahahahahahaha pfui!
Posted by: Ann | January 11, 2011 at 05:23 PM
Capt, lovely daughter!
Posted by: clarice | January 11, 2011 at 05:25 PM
Regarding King's idiocy, I called my two (NH) Senators and my rep this afternoon and told them I thought his proposal was the height of idiocy and that legislation conceived by hysterical politicians was bound to backfire with a boatload of unintended consequences. And by the way, Americans are fed up with having their rights sacrificed on the altar of security.
The Republicans were quite on board with my thinking, the Democrat less so, but very polite.
I then called King's office and gave them the same message. I don't think they liked me.
I really do believe we need to raise a stink about this.
Posted by: MaryD | January 11, 2011 at 05:26 PM
Captain, your daughter is beautiful.
Posted by: MaryD | January 11, 2011 at 05:28 PM
One of the things on which you might cogitate, bunkerbuster, as you pore over Douglas's book, is the extent to which the feminization process described by Douglas permeates today's educational system, such that far from being empowered, both women and men are increasingly dependent on meaningless therapy talk.
Before you start another "identity conservative" rant, bunkerbuster, you really ought to read Douglas.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | January 11, 2011 at 05:29 PM
Surely King is putting his colleagues on. In John McEnroe's famous words, "[he] can't be serious".
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | January 11, 2011 at 05:30 PM
That is the second troll I've seen in two days attempt to place the blame on republicans claims that libs feminize the nation and that republicans insist on manliness and support the military and loves thems some machismo. Hit all the same talking points, too. The first troll was better.
Maybe this crisis will put a slight ding in Soros' pocketbook...
Well a girl can wish.
Posted by: Stephanie | January 11, 2011 at 05:31 PM
Everyone with any brains is mocking King's preposterous proposal (See Legal Insurrection, i.e.)
Next up --a proposal that having to campaign for re-election makes the incumbent congress critters too vulnerable and so all the positions should be switched to lifetime tenure.
Posted by: clarice | January 11, 2011 at 05:33 PM
"Whether [political rhetoric] caused what happened in Tucson or not, it’ll cause the next tragedy," Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) predicts on FOX News.
Even if the next tragedy is flood.
Posted by: MarkO | January 11, 2011 at 05:35 PM
that republicans insist on manliness and support the military and loves thems some machismo.
What is negative in that? It all sounds good to me.
Posted by: Janet | January 11, 2011 at 05:37 PM
This was the original troll dropping:
Sorry, the right has brought this upon itself;
It isn’t just the Sarah Palin ad, or Sharon Angle’s “Second Amendment solution”, but the entire conservative mediashpere [sp] is drenched in violent rhetoric and imagery.
For the last 40 years conservatives have worked overtime to portray themselves as rough, tough manly men in the pride of their manhood, being gun totin’ patriots as opposed to the dainty effete liberal wimps.
Quick, when was the last time you heard of a conservative advocacy group with the words “peace”, “justice” or “fairness” in their title? Those words are almost exclusively the property of liberals, and conservatives scorn them.
They have spent 40 years branding themselves as the party of the NRA, the party of the military, of get tough on crime; its too late now to suddenly try to convince us all they are actually the party of peaceful flower children.
Posted by: Stephanie | January 11, 2011 at 05:37 PM
Even if the next tragedy is flood.
Hahahaha MarkO!
Posted by: Janet | January 11, 2011 at 05:39 PM
That's a very splungey statement from TPaw, 'he's not being indecisive' well maybe a little, but not too much,
Posted by: narciso | January 11, 2011 at 05:40 PM
Limit the guns to only ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AJzv8gb2A&feature=related"> five bullets.
Some people will never understand how stupid the "limit the clip" argument is. We need to limit the nutjobs.
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 11, 2011 at 05:42 PM
Dupnik described the Loughner family as "somewhat dysfunctional"...and he seems to be right.
Posted by: DebinNC | January 11, 2011 at 05:43 PM
Hey Bubu, I'm not really surprised that you never heard of Kanjorski, the Dem politico who expressed his opinion on the campaign trail that his opponent should be lined up and shot. Not surprisingly, it wasn't heavily reported on by the MSM. Never fear, however, the NYT aims to fix that by putting him front and center ON THEIR EDITORIAL PAGE TO LECTURE US ALL ABOUT THE NEED FOR POLITICAL CIVILITY. (Apparently you missed that part of TM's post).
Posted by: Boatbuilder | January 11, 2011 at 05:44 PM
“What is government if words have no meaning?” … Tyranny
Posted by: Neo | January 11, 2011 at 05:45 PM
Hey Capn' How very cool!
Posted by: Cleo is impotent | January 11, 2011 at 05:49 PM
Dobby from ">http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Dobby"> Harry Potter:
">http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100922195545/harrypotter/images/thumb/8/85/DobbyDH.png/250px-DobbyDH.png">
Dopey from MSNBC:
Posted by: Threadkiller | January 11, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Love it, Threadkiller! There really is a resemblance!
Posted by: MaryD | January 11, 2011 at 05:54 PM
((As usual it's the crazy people who think everyone else is nuts.))
It's scary how much history has been dominated by crazy people with political power.
Posted by: Chubby | January 11, 2011 at 05:54 PM
On a thread yesterday,JiB said he had cancelled his NYT subscription,jimmyk said he wish he could,and DoT told us:
Well. I got that same unwanted solicitation from the Times in the mail today. Was trying to determine the manner in which I would decline their offer. All sorts of thoughts have gone through my head,some of which would be inappropriate.
But now,having read this from jimmyk upthread:
I figure I'll photoshop a pic of Krugman with a bullseye over his face and affix it to the solicitation when I return it to them.
Posted by: hit and run | January 11, 2011 at 06:00 PM
http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2011/01/evergreen_solar_30.html?p1=News_links>Hope+change update
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 11, 2011 at 06:03 PM
No hit...you might get in trouble for that. I put in lots of paper cause they have to pay the return postage, but don't do anything to get in trouble.
Posted by: Janet | January 11, 2011 at 06:06 PM
Ace comes up from sniffing Rove's butt to actually say something important:
The article ends on this lie:
Aaron Mehta is a reporter for the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative reporting organization in Washington D.C.
See, that's a lie, because "nonpartisan" is a legal category meaning simply "not formally, legally associated with either party. But the media uses this to hide the ideological affiliation of leftist organizations -- yes, the organization is technically "nonpartisan" on its paperwork it files with DC. But that is not an accurate description -- a more accurate one would be "extremely leftist organization which almost exclusively champions liberal and leftist causes and the Democratic Party."
Another way to describe it is a corporate shell of George Soros' greater Marxism, Inc., via his Open Society Initiative.
But you choose -- those interesting, informative descriptions, or Newsweek's choice of the meaningless legalism "nonpartisan."
Note to the media: If a lie is so obvious and disprovable that you are forbidden to state it directly, isn't that a sign you shouldn't imply the fuck out of it?
Isn't that both dishonest and cowardly? You won't even write the words. You know they're not true. If you know they're not true -- why are you writing them via implication?
Posted by: Stephanie | January 11, 2011 at 06:08 PM
Oops. forgot to update the LUN
Posted by: Stephanie | January 11, 2011 at 06:11 PM
--I figure I'll photoshop a pic of Krugman with a bullseye over his face and affix it to the solicitation when I return it to them.--
Better hurry before it's a federal crime, hit.
Posted by: Ignatz | January 11, 2011 at 06:11 PM
You think they can't go lower, but they do, in the LUN
Posted by: narciso | January 11, 2011 at 06:12 PM
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/286/buhbyeglobe2zt.jpg>This was how I unsub'ed from the Globe (NYT's Mini Me).
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | January 11, 2011 at 06:13 PM
But Ryan Rudominer has assured me that doing that would not be threatening.
Posted by: hit and run | January 11, 2011 at 06:16 PM
Thanks guys; she can be a handful at times (and I keep waiting for her to grow up and be a conservative) but she's my girl.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 06:17 PM
I wonder if Sarah Palin will find grounds libel in some of the asinine, superheated rhetoric that's going around.
Posted by: Chubby | January 11, 2011 at 06:18 PM
Hit, just send a picture of the Target dog:
Poor thing is probably on the way to the pound as we speak. :(
h/t tammybruce
Posted by: Ann | January 11, 2011 at 06:23 PM
Damn narc; there's no way to parody that. Even Iowahawk would draw a blank on that garbage.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 06:23 PM
Oh and Pawlenty can STFU; another gelded Repuke.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 06:25 PM
That is the second troll I've seen in two days attempt to place the blame on republicans claims that libs feminize the nation and that republicans insist on manliness and support the military and loves thems some machismo. Hit all the same talking points, too. The first troll was better.
Unoriginal and stupid must be a hellish way to go through life.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 06:28 PM
Michale Medved is wondering why David Brooks had to stress the fact that he doesn't like Sara Palin.
My theory is that he's married to one of those women who involuntarily vomited with rage the first time they saw Sarah Palin on TV. And henpecked.
Posted by: Extraneus | January 11, 2011 at 06:30 PM
Captian, your daughter is a beauty. Btw, how much snow have you gotten up there. We got about 5 inches so far.
Posted by: Ann | January 11, 2011 at 06:30 PM
--why David Brooks had to stress the fact that he doesn't like Sara Palin--
Prolly cause she makes his chausses fit to bust and he experiences avarice for her lute.
Posted by: Ignatz | January 11, 2011 at 06:35 PM
Donald, thanks for that link to Pawlenty's new book, "Courage to Rip Off a Book Cover":
Funny thing about those poses - he undoubtedly feels like he's on the right, but from my perspective he looks like he's on the left. (And Sarah's in the center.)
Posted by: bgates | January 11, 2011 at 06:37 PM
Speaking of Obama giving a speech in Arizona,I think a review of his speech after the Virginia Tech shooting gives us a clue (or at least fodder).
Exit Question: can Obama pivot from "a climate of violence" to "actual climate violence" because of Republican opposition to cap and trade in this speech? Actually the question isn't "can" he. It's will he...And that speech is even more relevant (in political terms) here than it was at the time,because of his prominent use of "verbal violence". Back then,it was in the context of Imus's "nappy-headed hos",which was something no one -- not Obama, not Krugman, not "unnamed Democratic operatives" -- was linking to the shooting, direct or otherwise.
But now with everyone decrying the heated rhetoric,and a climate of metaphorical violence (or is it violent metaphors?) in politics -- can't you just imagine him just basically re-reading http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/barack_obama_on_virginia_tech.html>that speech,replacing the Imus incident with . . . Sarah Palin's map?
Posted by: hit and run | January 11, 2011 at 06:37 PM
LOL Iggy.
Ann I think we have about the same amount as you do. It didn't start snowing until around 3 this afternoon.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 06:38 PM
I wonder if Sarah Palin will find grounds libel in some of the asinine, superheated rhetoric that's going around.
She should get restraining orders against most of the commentariate.
It'll be fun during the campaign: "Sorry, you're not an acceptable debate moderator; you're not allowed within 1000' of Palin, by court order."
Posted by: Rob Crawford | January 11, 2011 at 06:41 PM
Even Imus this morning while trying to stick up for Palin added he thinks she is a moron. What small little men.
All you need to know about Obama's trip this week is he called the sheriff to THANK HIM and he is taking Napolitano and Holder with him.
Posted by: Ann | January 11, 2011 at 06:42 PM
Even Imus this morning while trying to stick up for Palin added he thinks she is a moron.
It's a class marker. They don't know why they say it, they just know that they're expected to say it.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | January 11, 2011 at 06:44 PM
A chausses without a codpiece would not provide much of a barrier to those furtive carresses which led to so much discomfort for that hapless gent.
LUN
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | January 11, 2011 at 06:48 PM
bgates:
Funny thing about those poses - he undoubtedly feels like he's on the right, but from my perspective he looks like he's on the left.
Pawlenty resides in the same position on his book cover that Obama does on Audacity of Hope.
Posted by: hit and run | January 11, 2011 at 06:51 PM
All you need to know about Obama's trip this week is he called the sheriff to THANK HIM and he is taking Napolitano and Holder with him.
I thought my blood pressure couldn't go up any further today, but I was wrong.
Posted by: Porchlight | January 11, 2011 at 06:53 PM
Don Imus thinks everyone is a moron.
Seriously, you have to listen to Imus-speak for a while before you catch on: if he likes you, he calls you names. If he doesn't like you, you get the Cheech-and-Chong Sister-Mary-Elephant "shut up!" screech.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | January 11, 2011 at 06:54 PM
I blame Obama and Bill Ayers, if the report is true, that Mountain View High School has a Small Schools Workshop curriculum. Oh snap, does it really matter if it is true or not?
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | January 11, 2011 at 06:55 PM
All you need to know about Obama's trip this week is he called the sheriff to THANK HIM and he is taking Napolitano and Holder with him.
The Three Stooges in Arizona with Sheriff Fuzznuts as Shemp.
Imus is an idiot; I defended him for his comments that gave drama queen Vivien Stringer the vapours strictly on a free speech basis (not to mention doing what a shock jock is supposed to do: Be controversial). But he's at about the same level as Larry Flynt on the loathsome scale.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 07:03 PM
Let's play this at the end of his speech, Hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocjqgd3LYfg>My B.S. Meter is at the Break Point
Posted by: clarice | January 11, 2011 at 07:06 PM
Captain Hate, you've got a lovely daughter (sing to the Herman's Hermits tune).... :)
Posted by: Porchlight | January 11, 2011 at 07:07 PM
Very good Porch; you've even got the meter and cadence down. And thanks.
Posted by: Captain Hate | January 11, 2011 at 07:08 PM
Watch out Arizona! The feds are on the way to help!They also want to check up on Sheriff
DoofnickDupnik to see that he has not reverted to his years of advocating citizen gun ownership and purging AZ of illegals.In 1981, Dupnik sent a message to all residents: Arm yourselves. Police couldn't adequately protect the populace, he said, because they didn't have sufficient manpower: "Not only are things not good, they are going to get worse. For those who are so inclined, it's time to start protecting yourselves." LUN
Posted by: Frau Schiessgewehr | January 11, 2011 at 07:11 PM
hit-
I couldn't stand by and deny you the opportunity to display your generosity when unsubscribing from such a vaunted institution.
If you need one from here, arrangements can be made.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | January 11, 2011 at 07:27 PM
Kanjorski was wrong. But there is a difference between being pissed off at being stolen from and inciting armed insurrection.
Posted by: SamF | January 11, 2011 at 07:34 PM
The more wingnuts dwell on what they perceive to be hostile comments from liberals, the more they underscore that they really do believe eliminationist rhetoric motivated Loughner. The fact that they're just too stupid to understand that is hilarious, if a bit sad…
Posted by: bunkerbuster | January 11, 2011 at 07:41 PM
Where is everyone seeing Captain's lovely daughter?
Posted by: centralcal | January 11, 2011 at 07:42 PM
bubbler-
You are supposed to sit BEHIND the projector, not look into it.
You're going to go blind like that.
Maybe from some other habits, but we'll leave that be.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | January 11, 2011 at 07:46 PM
Captain's Hatette is gorgeous. And I really applaud what she is doing.
Posted by: MayBee | January 11, 2011 at 07:49 PM
c-cal-
Cap'n beamed proudly, and justifiably, back here.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | January 11, 2011 at 07:49 PM
Thanks Melinda! Those are some great ideas.
(for the record I am not unsubscribing,but simply declining to subscribe)
Posted by: hit and run | January 11, 2011 at 07:55 PM
The more wingnuts dwell on what they perceive to be hostile comments from liberals, the more they underscore that they really do believe eliminationist rhetoric motivated Loughner.
No.
Pointing out the hostile comments shows that even they do not really believe hostile comments cause political violence.
Democrats, Republicans, and Independents all know that political violence is simply not acceptable in this country. Nor is is necessary. We have a ballot box.
Some Democrats are cravenly using this horrifying crime to seize control of the rhetoric and mood of the country. Obama has to run for reelection in 2 years. They want to have the ability to say opponents are endangering the country with their "hostile" rhetoric. Like opposing Obamacare.
Posted by: MayBee | January 11, 2011 at 07:56 PM
That's really something that Obama called the sheriff to thank him for all of his help. Sounds like he's about to step in it again tomorrow.
Posted by: Extraneus | January 11, 2011 at 07:56 PM
Thanks, Mel! Yes, very lovely, Captain Hate!
Posted by: centralcal | January 11, 2011 at 07:57 PM
I'll try to post this again. The long knives are out for Sarah Palin on Matthews show as he discredits her website person's explanation about the surveyor marks on the map targeting vulnerable candidates. He then goes on to accuse Sarah of hiding. Oelbermann and Chris need to get a grip before they are sued for libel and slander.
Posted by: maryrose | January 11, 2011 at 08:01 PM
hit-
Even better!
Anonymity reigns!
I'm modifying my thoughts on the fly, perhaps unrinsed empties, ripened for a week under a shed, all in a box, held down by rocks.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | January 11, 2011 at 08:03 PM
Why is Palin so quiet?
Could it be that Tea Baggers actually
have a conscience?
Posted by: Ugly Truth | January 11, 2011 at 08:04 PM
Democrats: the Frank Costanza of politics.
Posted by: hit and run | January 11, 2011 at 08:05 PM