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February 09, 2011

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maryrose

Yes George Allen will take back this seat and won't Schumer be surprised that Allen will be telling him what to do after the Repubs win back the Senate in 2012. Schumer was very disrespectful of Allen after his loss in 2006.

NK

Hey TomM- thanks for the new thread!! I am very confident that the Commonwealth will elect a new conservative senator in 2012, and give all of her electoral votes to anyone other than the Obamaniac. I am not a George Allen fan though.

Can't wait to hear from sandy, Janet and CaptH on this thread.

maryrose

Bring on Kaine, he'll be easy to beat.

Sandy Daze

(repost from last therad, and with this, good niters, all)

10 Feb 11
Baghdad


Jim Webb, successful, Naval Academy graduate, combat warrior, lawyer, SecNav, principled departee' from government, Pulitzer winning author, script writer. author, inter alia, of "Born Fighting" A man in search of a mission, decides to run for and wins the confidence and trust of constituents, a position as a Senator from the Commonwealth of Virginia.

As a Senator and more importantly as a member of the United States Marines, positions considered to among the most exclusive "clubs" in the world, he was similar to many of his constituents who, like myself, took a durable oath to "solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same"

We looked to his candidacy and eventual election as Senator for the Great Commonwealth of Virginia as an opportunity for a man of distinguished performance and renown character to bring a sense of civility, maturity and intellect to the Senate.

Alas, we were all grievously disappointed with his lock-step support for the administration that has proven itself to be the furthest to the left, most socialist and anti-American administration of all time.

Indeed, on any one of a significant number of votes, Jim Webb could have stood in the breech, defending the honor and integrity of the American Way Of Life, like so many of his forebears, he could have recalled that he was born fighting and would likely (metaphorically) die fighting, but at least he would be remembered as fighting for America.

As it is, he will be remembered as a lackluster one-term senator from Virginia, who accomplished nothing of substance during his six years in the Senate.

He will be seen as what he is, a traitor to the Constitution of the United States of America and to the ideals of the American Republic.

Take good care,
Sandy

NK

Nite Nite, Sandy. Stay safe.

Captain Hate

I'm with NK on George Allen. True the WaPo torpedoed him but he handled that about as poorly as possible. I think a TP candidate is called for. Although I think I could win against Tim "bad hair day" Kaine.

NK

maryrose-- will Kaine run? He got smoked, AND THEN went full bore Obamania as DNC Chair. How does he win Va.?

NK

CaptH-- agreed.

 centralcal

Not just bad hair, Captain. Kaine needs some kind of surgical procedure done on that high flying eyebrow, over which he seems to have little or no control.

PaulL

I don't know when the next diet thread is going to be, so . . . I just found this old scrap piece of paper:

Doc, note. I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod.

-Peter Hilton, British code-breaker on the team that solved the Enigma code

maryrose

PaulL:
Please don't awaken TM for another diet thread,
Rose's rules for losing weight:
Eat less
Exercise daily in some form.

Rocco

Well now that makes 3 Democrat seats vacated and another 23 up for re-election next time around. Compared to 1 Republican seat vacated and 10 seats up for re-election. Things are looking up!

Jim Webb's retirement (and what it means)

maryrose

I like George Allen. He's the quintsential good ole boy.

NK

MaryRose--

I lost 70+ lbs of fat following your rules coupled with low carbs. But I agree, I hope TomM doesn't rise to the diet bait.

Theo

What a novel idea, maryrose. Why hasn't anyone thought of that before?

Extraneus

Well, maybe you guys aren't interested, but I'd like to know the carb count of those melons Janet wants us to feast on at the Webb retirement party.

maryrose

NK
Congrats on losing weight the healthy way.
Theo:
Psst-we need to stop talking about it.

maryrose

Capt.H:
-2 tonight and only 14 degrees tomorrow-Brr

Theo

George Allen is a big government conservative. I would much prefer a Tea Party type. But mostly I want a Republican who will win, even an imperfect one is better than Kaine or Perriello.

Ignatz

--Webb Won't Run In VA--

Maybe not, but if he ever bumps into Sandy Daze in Baghdad he may run in Iraq.

maryrose

What kind of logic makes the dems think a rep like Perriello who only marginally won the first time{ I believe there was a recount} and then lost in Nov. would win in 2012 for a Senate seat? Is this some kind of reverse psychology run amok. The WH likes him and that's considered a positive?

Captain Hate

maryrose, I don't know how much more of this global warming we can take. A roofer came today and knocked down the ice clogging up my gutters and about 8 gallons of water came cascading down; better that way to exit than through my ceiling. Next week it's supposed to get to the 40s so the giant February thaw will begin and we get to see where all the dogs have been for the last two months::barf::

Janet

Maybe not, but if he ever bumps into Sandy Daze in Baghdad he may run in Iraq.

LOL!

...and remind me to NEVER use the word melon again! Like 'Lost in America' when the wife isn't allowed to say nest ever again...must use the term 'twig thing'. Haha!

Captain Hate

[Homer Simpson]Janet's melons Mmmmmmmmmm[/Homer Simpson]

Blue

repost from other thread -


Webb's always been passionate about HIS issues but unlikely to be much 'distracted' by yours. Compromise not in his DNA. Can be honest to a fault - is driven to do what HE thinks is right. Obsessive competitor but when he knows the game's not going his way he'll take his bat an ball and go find another game (SECNAV tenure). When I first met Webb he was between gigs and writing full-time. I asked how he'd gone about writing 'Fields...' and he was still talking when the bartender told all of us to go home. A couple of people who wandered in-and-out of the conversation that night took strong issue with a thing or two Webb said. One argument he simply ignored but the other, I think, came close to 'fighting words'. I haven't seen Jim in about 25 years but I don't see that he's changed much. He is uniquely Jim Webb and the US Senate seems like a horrible fit for him. Not one of the world's great deliberators.


Danube of Thought

He will be seen as what he is, a traitor to the Constitution of the United States of America and to the ideals of the American Republic.

And I'll repeat what I posted on the last thread: the word "traitor" doesn't belong in this discussion. And I sincerely doubt that Webb, even at 64, would run from Sandy or anyone else.

I'm not wild about George Allen either, but if he can win I'll send him $$.

maryrose

LOL Capt.:
I love Homer Simpson-the ultimate doofus.
We have been in a deep freeze in Ohio since December.On some days it is warmer in Alaska than it is here. Can't wait for St. Pat's Day and spring.

Rick Ballard

I believe Webb to be the quintessential honest politician. He agreed to prostitute himself in '06 in exchange for money and support and he then performed every unnatural act required in recompense. He is also reasonably intelligent for a politician and recognized that his performance of unnatural acts in furtherance of Obamacare would elicit a degree of outrage among Virginians which would require an even more ironclad exchange in order to have any chance of prevailing.

He's simply not suited to a life of progressive prostitution. It will be interesting to see whether Tester and the Nelsons will follow suit.

The one I really want to see knocked out is Sherrod Brown - he's no prostitute, he's a whole hearted progressive slut who is available for the hint of a wink from Soros &c.

Ignatz

--And I sincerely doubt that Webb, even at 64, would run from Sandy or anyone else.--

Me too, but the punch line's gotta match the setup.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Chris Lee resigns: 'I have to work this out with my wife'

Lee, a Republican who represented the Western New York district adjacent to that of disgraced former congressman Eric Massa, was in his second term in the House. He was known for his work as Vice Chairman of the House Dairy Farmers Caucus and earlier this year sponsored a bill to stop the mandatory printing of congressional documents. Roll Call reported last year he was one of the 50 richest members of Congress.

Another sex scandal. Son says Boehner bounced him.

joh

We need a Tea Party candidate. If Allen is elected it will be BAU in DC.

NK

Blue--- that's a harsh but fair assessment of Webb. He is an egoist and the charter member and president of the Jim Webb Party. I first met him 15 years ago and had a lengthy e-mail penpal thing right up to him winning the Dem nomination for Senator. We all need to be fair, he is a very passionate and intellectually gifted man and a brilliant writer. He deeply loves the USA, more than his own life, and if he tolerates you, he'll back you up to the hilt. Small thing-- in response to my question about my son's interest in the service academies, he took the time to give a thoughful answer and told me that the most miseerable people he ever met were legacies at the Naval Academy who didn't want to be there, but were forced by Admiral fathers-- he said I needed to make sure the kid wanted to go there -- not me. I reminded him of that when he won the Senate nomination and asked him if he was going to be the most miserable man in the Senate. He didn't have an answer, but now we all know. I wish Jim Webb all the best.

NK

RickB-- I dont know about your take on Webb. He got in in 2006 to stick it to GeorgeHW and George W Bush and the "establishment Repubs" (Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Warner etcetc). Let's just say he maybe starting to do the right thing. He owes a lot of penance over his votes.

Captain Hate

Rick, maryrose and I have had Brown in our crosshairs for over 5 years. Putting him in office was a huge mistake and with his harridan wife campaigning for him in the MFM every time she dips her pen in poison, he won't go easy. He beat DeWine, who wasn't a horrible candidate but not good enough to swim against the 2006 tide brought to us by that brilliant architect of compassionate conservatism. The GOP had better have somebody decent lined up to run because if they try to stick us with Voinovich v2.0, things won't be pretty.

Rick Ballard

NK,

Tester and Webb were long shots in '06 (until the WaPo torpedoed Allen). Neither of them had the money or background for state wide runs and both of them received substantial help from Schumer as chair of the DSCC. Others received more help (Casey in PA, for example) but Tester and Webb received quite a bit and Schumer gave and gives nothing whatsoever away.

There may have been an instance when Webb took a principled stand against one of Schumer's unprincipled actions, Lord knows he didn't lack for opportunity. Which one do you think I missed?

Thomas Collins

When my son was President of the UMass Republican Club, George Allen was a speaker at a Club sponsored event. He is a consummate gentleman. I decided to take my mother so she could see my son introduce Mr. Allen. After the speech, Mr. Allen was very gracious to everyone, but especially to my mother. One could tell that his graciousness was not a result of his being a politician, but because he was brought up properly. I hope the Virginia voters return him to the US Senate.

Oh, by the way, on substantive policy matters, Mr. Allen clearly is quite informed on energy policy. It was a pleasure hearing a politician who could go beyond talking points. All too rare these days.

Janet

I think he voted for drilling off the Virginia coast...or allowing exploration anyway. That's it.

NK

RickB-- You've got most facts right-- webb was even a long shot winnner of the dem primary. He indeed took filthy lucre from Schumer's DSCC operation, but we all know that the WashPost and pile on media got webb elected based on the 'macacca' nonsense. Why did Webb vote straight line for all of the Obama left wing nonsense? I don't know, but I do know it was not out of some plan to be an 'honest' politician prostitute.

Captain Hate

TC, that's pretty high praise on the energy matters. In 2004 I saw Lurch on Meet the Depressed when Russert was still alive, bloviating on all the donk talking points like off a checklist: "Tim we've got to direct our efforts to renewable sources (check) and biomass (check) as well as wind (check) and solar (check)". I was watching and mentally urging Russert to ask that jackhole for some detail on just how any one of those pipe dreams could possibly come to fruition; but like a good trooper he just let it all pass.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

This letter is not only spot on, but it is guaranteed to bring some smiles as well. I love it, think most of you will too:

Dear Obama, Please Leave Me Alone

Neo

But the doctrine which is contended for is not chargeable with the consequences imputed to it. It does not affirm that the national government is sovereign in all respects, but that it is sovereign to a certain extent; that is, to the extent of the objects of its specified powers.

It leaves, therefore, a criterion of what is constitutional, and of what is not so.

Threadkiller

Speaking of offshore drilling and Tea Party.

">http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SpillCommis"> Jan 26,2011 Tom McClintock destroys the gulf oil commission

Watch how he handles a Senator and an EPA commissioner at 01:17:22 and again at 02:51:05. They are dumbfounded.


Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

The head of the VA tea party is planning to run against Allen in the primary - according to the Fox all stars.

Rick Ballard

NK,

I din't say he planned it - I said he was honest enough to honor an agreement. I doubt that he actually understood how long a spoon he needed when supping with Schumer. He does now and he's quitting a life for which he is unsuited.

CH,

Brown will be tough, as will Casey. The low hanging fruit will be Nelson (NE), Tester and McCaskill. Slightly harder will be Nelson (FL), Menendez and Bingaman followed by Klobuchar, Stabenow and Cardin.

There's a reason why they put the lackwit Murray in as chair.

Cecil Turner

Concerning Webb, after supposedly splitting with the Dems over their defeatism during Vietnam, he showed remarkable comfort with a remarkably similar campaign on Iraq (including a truly execrable effort to snatch defeat from the jaws of a surge-induced victory). At best he's a fuzzy thinker . . . and I have little time for him.

Porchlight

What do you think about Manchin, Rick? I was dismayed at his easy win over Raese but I am also convince that WV will vote overwhelmingly against Obama in 2012 due to that whole "bankrupting the coal industry" thing.

Gmax

Creigh Deeds to the rescue? giggle, snort, giggle.


Tim Kaine has Zerocare and national Democrat splashed all over him after an embarassing turn at the DNC. He says he aint running, cuz he can read a poll just like Jim Webb can. Macaca happens.

Rick Ballard

Porchlight,

I think Manchin will be very hard to beat. He can run against BOzo without worry and he won't have any "dirty socialist" votes on his record 'cause the House won't be sending any dirty socialist legislation up to be voted upon. I don't see how a Rep challenger could get traction against him unless there's a nice juicy scandal waiting to be uncovered.

Danube of Thought

the most miserable people he ever met were legacies at the Naval Academy who didn't want to be there, but were forced by Admiral fathers

Anybody who can be forced to do anything by his father at that age is going to a miserable son of a bitch no matter where he goes.

clarice

Rick, His party is in the process of shutting down the only major industry in his state--coal mining.

maryrose

Rick:
I completely agree with your assessment of which senators are the most vulnerable in 2012.
What I don't get is why Stabenow is so strong. Michigan's unemployment is horrific.
I concur about Brown-he's more left than Obama.
Anyone who would leave his own mother's wake to fly back to washington to vote on a stimulus bill doesn't have his priorities straight. His wife writes for the Plain Dealer so they are in the tank for him.
CaptH. and I live in Cuyahoga County which is where his base is. Southern Ohio hates him. I plan on canvassing and phone banking in 2012 just like I did For our new governor Kasich. We will give it our all but he might be hard to dislodge.

maryrose

I'm sorry but I have a special animus for Menendez and Lautenburg. How's that recall coming for Menendez? Lautenburg only got in because the "Torch" imploded.

Gmax

Stab me now is not strong, and after the Michiganders got Kwame indicted and out of office in Detroit, the fraud machine collapsed there. Dave Bing wont play that game.

So look out below, both houses in Michigan and the Governorship went Republican. and a majority of the US House seats as well. Peters survived after a near death experience which probably get tougher with redistricting this go round from the Republicans in control.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Anybody who can be forced to do anything by his father at that age is going to a miserable son of a bitch no matter where he goes.

I think that's alittle tough, DOT. I used to coordinate interviews with Academy high school hopefuls who applied thru my Congresswoman's office. These are young kids, 17 and 18 year olds, and still living under their parents' roof and rules. Good parents are very involved in seeing their kids get into good schools and my experience is that these kids are very active in their communities, scouting, etc. They are, for the most part, from families who take seriously their roles as parental role models. The majority of the kids that applied were already leaders among their peers, but that didn't necessarily mean they didn't also want to carry on a long family tradition of service. Sure there were some doing it for Dad or Grandpa, but we usually knew that before the first interview of several was over and we counseled them to think hard as to whether the Academy and the commitment to service this requires was something they wanted for themselves and not because they thought they had to go that way. In fact, kids of senior officers weren't as likely to cite familial pressure as those who wanted to make their Master Chief dad proud, or kids whose fathers were killed in service wanted to make their dead fathers proud.

Since Annapolis was in our District and as were all the bedroom communities around Washington, DC, we had a larger percentage of children of senior officers applying than say a District in the West, in fly-over country, or in much of the South or any other area. I think this was just more sour grapes from Webb, who always seems to need a scapegoat.

Captain Hate

Not only is Kwame sitting in the pokey hoping for a Toonces pardon, but Kwame's mother got bounced from her seat last year. I swear Detroit has hit rock bottom and is determined to rise. Whether they can do it or not isn't known but I agree with Gmax that Dave Bing is finally a leader of character. Unfortunately for maryrose and me, Cleveland is lagging behind them in just about everything regarding political awareness.

Lautenberg getting in after the Torch got nailed for a felony; ah great times those were for donks in NJ.

clarice

I think once we get around to making Detroit a national park and game preserve things will turn around in Michigan.

glasater

There's a reason why they put the lackwit Murray in as chair.

Rick--most rocks are smarter than Patty Murray.

Guess I'm not following your reasoning for having her in charge when so much is at stake for the D's in the Senate.

Janet

A place to herd all those feral hogs?

PaulV

Cecil, I think you are spot on about Webb.
Webb refused to answer W when W asked how his son was doing while serving in Iraq.
I think Webb is upset that surge worked and has a problem admitting he was wrong. He used his son's boots as campaign prop. By bitterly clinging to a hope of defeat, his son and his fellow heroes proved Webb wrong.

daddy

Captain,

I would be a coward to not acknowledge that my weak Tarheels are just moments away from tipoff at Cameron to the hated disgusting damn good Duke BlueDevils. Go Heels. Glad we got rid of Drew.

Henry

My grandfather and two uncles went to service academies. They advised me to go to a "normal" college then apply to OCS. The reason cited was that I had an image of the academies which did not match the reality of the mid 70's. Perhaps they were thinking along DoT's line as two of them were senior officers' sons and two were senior officers.

PaulL

McClintock was great, Threadkiller. First I've seen him in action.

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

Manchin doesn't need any DSCC or DNC help. He's won statewide office with ease and he can, and will, run against Obama. I'd rate him as very tough to beat unless Salazar pulls something similar to the GOM restriction on drilling wrt coal mining.

Stabenow has $2 million on hand versus $1.3 million for Casey, $1.5 million for Brown, $500K for Tester, Cardin only has $385K, McCaskill $900K, Menendez $2.4 million, Klobuchar $1.6 million, Nelson (NE) $1.45 million, Nelson (FL) $3 million.

I wonder if Cardin will actually run? Webb had $445K on hand.

centralcal

Clarice, you crack me up. What a great take and solution to MI problems! lol.

Captain Hate

Daddy, you understand that your Holes vs les diablos azure is like Mo the pederast against Satan for me. But yes, Roy sending one of his underperforming blue chippers packing was a good move.

Btw, LUN for the Saudis response to Mr Smartypants diplomacy

Rick Ballard

glasater,

Murray has no reputation to lose in the coming electoral disaster. She may have been the only one dumb enough to accept the job. That or she drew the short straw.

Gmax

Maryland is a no mans land for Republicans.

And the reason Murray got the job? No one smarter than her would take the job.

clarice

cc--Seriously..the city is now so deserted that they are knocking down the buildings in many areas and just allowing the area to return to forestland.

Captain Hate

Dennis Miller smacking Sam Donaldson v2.0 O'Reilly around for his nerf ball interview with BOzo. Teh Sarah stealing Santorum's soul for witlessly taking snarky shots at her for "snubbing" those CPAC a-holes. House Repubs slashing $100 beeyun from Toonces request.

It's a great night to be an American.

Danube of Thought

In fact, kids of senior officers weren't as likely to cite familial pressure as those who wanted to make their Master Chief dad proud, or kids whose fathers were killed in service wanted to make their dead fathers proud.

I agree 100% with that, and with everything else you said on the topic, Sara. I was six years ahead of Webb, as the son of a young Rear Admiral, and I was there because that was what I wanted to do--passionately. There were a number of other sons of senior officers in my class, and I don't know of a single one who I would say had been forced to go there by his father or by anyone else. And I can tell you that the sons of the Chief Petty Officers and other enlisted--whose dads had for the most part served in WWII--had the proudest fathers in the land.

clarice

CC--Detroit's feral houses.
http://www.sweet-juniper.com/2009/07/feral-houses.html

Seriously--it ought to be made into a national park..the first major American city which has gone from an industrial urban center to forest land.

The people still living there can work as guides and service personnel in the park hotels and restaurants..

centralcal

Oh, I know you were quite serious, Clarice. And, sadly, pragmatic about Detroit's solutions. My chuckles are at your sardonic-witty way of expressing the obvious - sort of like you now have a Muse (reminiscent of a certain PeterUK in heaven.)

Lettin' it all rust away.

Sittin' on a dock of the Louisiana.
=================

clarice

Thanks, cc..Don't we all miss that old darling?

Pofarmer

iMHO, Webb just comes off as another proggresive.

daddy

Well look on the bright side. At least resigning Rep Chris Lee sent his shirtless photo to a woman instead of to a guy. Not much I know, but at least its something.

narciso

lol, daddy, this was his 'Michael Ellis' moment, no one heard of him, before, and
now it's Chris Quinn week. And yes Captn, she slapped him down soundly, and Huck is terminating his campaign, what campaign, exactly.

daddy

Can we go back to the first half again please? Ughh.

daddy

Narciso,

Have you got a link to Sarah going after Santorum? I missed it.

centralcal

Yes, Clarice - miss him a lot. But - hey - who knows, maybe he still speaks to us in unusual ways? I dunno. Your writing, always very good, seems . . . to capture some some essence of him now and again. Ah, but then again, the two of you could really play off one another to all of our delight,

narciso

Here's it is, in the LUN, only seen the details since I don't have Adobe Acrobat yet.
It's a reference ot a python sketch, where
the I think Terry Idle is in a department store, and keeps hearing others referring to
him, as that character.

clarice

There are worse things than channeling PUK.

maryrose

Do the repubs have good candidates in mind for these competitive races? For example- who is running against Nelson of Florida?Stupid Crist should have waited and run against him in 2012. He got overly ambitious and now he's in no man's land.

Jim Ryan

TOM PERRIELLO: [LOOKING INTO MIRROR] So, Webb's out. Honey, do you think I look senatorial? Like someone would say, "Hey, there goes a senator"?

MRS. PERRIELLO: [UNDER HER BREATH] God help me, please God, help me...

TOM PERRIELLO: Because, I don't know, I got a little grey comin' in. Honey?

narciso

You're assuming there is any logic to Crist's
actions, maryrose, now his latest move is too
keep the gulf closed to further development,
as oil spikes upward

maryrose

LOL Jim:
If ever a man was stuck on himself... Narcissistic much? It seems to be a dem trait.Then you have a hottie like Thune who seems oblivious to his handsomeness.

daveinboca

Maryrose, Schumer disses everyone and won't ever be Majority Leader in this lifetime. If BHusseinO gets Kaine to do a harikari or seppuku, then his magic touch once more [Bears in the SB?] will have manifested itself.

I had a two-minute confab with Webb in the loo at the Washington Times about 20-plus years ago, comparing Vietnam war stories [very short ones]. Actually a personable irascible dude with lots of spunk---he might have given Allen a contest, but Kaine & Perriello {?] are DOA before they run.

narciso

Btw, it's nice to know the AP's concern about Valerie Plame was so genuine;

daveinboca

"I think once we get around to making Detroit a national park and game preserve things will turn around in Michigan."

LOL! Kwame Kilpatrick can be chief game warden and they can run a Bohemia Grove for busted billionaires who leaned too far left...! Soros can orchestrate the cremation of cares...

Wonder if they'll allow Tigers?

maryrose

In Detroit, what are the odds of a mother and a son getting the old heave ho? It's like they were a pair of grifters or something.

daddy

Thanks for the link Narciso.

I do admire her toughness.

Whether he deserved it or not, I agree with the commenter at the link who said it was a shot across the bow to other Republican's looking to pile on and squish her. I can't remember if it was Beck or Dennis Miller today who commented on the unusual fact of many traditional Republican leadership types joining in lately with Dem choruses of trying to paint Sarah and Michelle Bauchman as fringe figures beyond the pale.

Perhaps this is Sarah's response that she doesn't aim to go quietly.

And if Huck is announcing he's not running I'm ecstatic about that. Is that confirmed?

maryrose

Of course the preen king crown has to go to old nose in the air Obama.

Threadkiller

"The disaster, we are told, was primarily the result of “overarching failure of management” by BP, Transocean and Halliburton—which is hardly news to anyone who’s been paying attention. Yet the commission didn’t stop with the companies that managed the Macondo well, going on to blame the highly unusual blowout on a “system-wide problem” of failed regulation and a complacent industry that requires “significant reform.”

These sweeping conclusions are remarkable from a commission that admits to knowing so little. The report cites several questionable decisions made by Macondo drillers as the “immediate causes” of the blowout, only to acknowledge it can’t say which, if any, were the cause:

• “It is not clear whether the decision to use a long string well design contributed directly to the blowout.”

• “The evidence to date does not unequivocally establish whether the failure to use 15 additional centralizers was a direct cause of the blowout.”

•”Whether . . . ‘unconverted’ float valves contributed to the eventual blowout, has not yet been, and may never be, established with certainty.”

Unable to name what definitely caused the well failure, the commission resorts to a hodgepodge of speculations. Adding to the confusion, it acknowledges it could find no evidence that BP or its contractors “consciously chose a riskier alternative because it would cost the company less money.”

The commission didn’t even wait to get an autopsy of the failed blowout preventer, which is rusting on a Louisiana dock.

">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791904576076012106308644.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop"> WSJ article McClintock quoted in the video link I posted earlier.

♫♫So I'm just gonna sit on the dock of the bay Watching the tide roll away

Ooo, I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time

Look like nothing's gonna change
Everything still remains the same...♫♫

narciso

This was the earlier LUN, about the CIA, they think if they only give the first name, they
are in the clear.

maryrose

Huck"s got a great gig at Fox and I think he stays put. Plus I read he has money trouble and financing a campaign might be tough.
OT: speaking of grifters no one tops old Hil And Bill leaving the WH with all that furniture and whatever wasn't nailed down. What an embarassing debacle that was. Can you imagine President Bush and Laura pulling a stunt like that? When the Obamas exit we will have to count the silverware, and check the refrigerator where only some broccoli and arugala will remain.

DrJ

Huck"s got a great gig at Fox and I think he stays put.

I sure hope so. I won't vote if he is the Republican candidate. Can't do it.

daddy

Threadkiller,

Up here we had hearings on drilling about 2 months back.

At the hearing the Oil guys said over 1,000 studies had already been performed on the Arctic area under question for drilling, but somehow that got lost in the shuffle, and all we heard on the news and in the headlines was Oil Drilling expert Ted Danson (Sam Malone from "Cheers" and Whoopie's ex- boyfriend) explaining why we needed lots and lots and lots more studies.

narciso

I posted this, in the earlier thread, could go under 'first time as tragedy,. . ., in the LUN

Ellie Light

Jim Webb was born slinking away from every principle honest men stand for. His tenure demonstrates what it means to be a prostitute. His campaign showed him to be less than honest. His tour of the senate was slightly more distinguished than Kerry's Vietnam sojurn.

I hopwe the dhimmies run Kaine. What a loser.

daddy

Just flipped on O'Reilly.

Here it is Wednesday and he's still doing self-analysis of his Super Bowl Obama Interview. Now its the body language expert blabbing.

Geezus Bill, you asked a couple questions of some smarmy President. Big deal. Get over yourself already.

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