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February 10, 2011

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Captain Hate

Good riddance. Speaking of idiots, has Mark Sanford moved to Argentina?

Uncle BigBad

Does this rate a thread of its own?

clarice

Doesn't everyone post half naked pictures of himself/herself on the internet? Isn't that this age's I.q. test substitute?

NK

Would it be uncivil of me to ask, if resignation is the penalty for e-mailing a shirtly photo (of a handsome 46yo congressmman), what is the appropriate penalty for a porcine congressman permitting a gay house of prostitution to be run out of his home for a prolonged period of time?-- yes we're looking at you Bahnee Fwank. Anyone?--- Bueller?

MarkO

Has a Democrat ever gone quietly?

Ignatz

--if resignation is the penalty for e-mailing a shirtly photo (of a handsome 46yo congressmman), what is the appropriate penalty for a porcine congressman permitting a gay house of prostitution to be run out of his home for a prolonged period of time?-- yes we're looking at you Bahnee Fwank. Anyone?--- Bueller?--

Bueller? Suggest you ask Napoleon the pig instead, speaking of porcine.

maryrose

How about Walters and Rangel?They are both still hanging around and to answer the question -no- dems never go quietly because they believe they are entitled to the seat.

Thomas Collins

NK, BF's allowing Hot Bottom to run his business out of Barney's place, and MSM's lack of curiosity to probe into the credibility of BF's denials that he knew what was going on, were the first things that sprang to mind when I heard about this.

As to the Congressman, I wish him and his family well. Clearly these things should be done discreetly with mistresses who are themselves discreet.

maryrose

Look at Clinton. Anyone with a shred of dignity would have been too embarassed to stay but he was determined to hang on and fellow dems let him. Since then all bets are off. Even criminals that owe the IRS money are still there. Jefferson got an entire 2nd term while under indictment.

Porchlight

OT, sort of -

Many outlets are reporting Kyl will announce retirement today.

NK

My rhetorical question about Bahnee and other corrupt Dems who hang on forever because their moronic constituents send them back election after election aside, I hope John Boehner is creating some precedent here. The House Dems (except the 30 or so remaining 'moderates' from suburban or rural districts) have no honor, no dignity and no sense of shame. Thus 'scandal' means nothing to them because it does not mean anything to the majority of their voters. Thus, by bouccing a Repub for fairly mild misconduct, when the next Dem invariably steps out of line, the Speaker will have some leverage to discipline the miscreant. Small thing, but lots of small things add up to a change of culture, and the US Congress needs a major culture change.

Melinda Romanoff

NK-

I'm thinking a trip through an autoclave might be in order for some seats.

maryrose

Kyl is supposed to make it official this afternoon. I wonder if McCain 's nemesis Hayworth will make another run?

Frau Steingehirn

A Corvette or Harley would have been just as thrilling.

Captain Hate

This thread could be greatly improved by a picture of Jenny Sanford.

Melinda Romanoff

Ah, a local girl!

Thomas Collins

OK, this gossip thread is winding down, TM. How about trying a Kruger/Sanchez gossip thread?

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

I saw in one of the news stories about this that Boehner had warned this tool last year about being too "close" to some female lobbyists.

It's tough being a Congressman when you're trolling for your soulmate on Craigslist.

NK

MelindaR-- here is a quote from one of those Dem seats that am autoclave may be needed: the Congressman is a "denier" of the iron law of supply and demand:
"...We're not going to affect the cost very much no matter where we drill in the United States," said Rep. Jay Inslee (D., Wash.).

What a dumb fu#%&ker. I will grant that while added US production only affects oil price on the margins, the real way to reduce energy and commodity prices is to get the Congress and Fed to stop debasing the Dollar. A 10% Dollar increase drops worldoil prices up to 20%.

Melinda Romanoff

And drops it the same for China, btw.

Porchlight

maryrose, I'm pretty sure Jeff Flake is expected to make a run. Also maybe Shadegg.

NK

MelindaR-- China-- of course yes.
The Congress and Fed debasing the Dollar as far as I am concerned is beneficial only because it creates windfall profits for US grain/cotton exporters and for those fine people in Canada and Australia who export commodiities. For US citizens it is a bad idea and for third worlders it is a life threatening disaster -- see food prices. China reducing its commodity costs with a stronger dollar is fine by me, China reducing its commodities costs further by strengthening the Renminbi is even better.

narciso

A slightly Lolworthy take on the thread, in the LUN

jimmyk

What a dumb fu#%&ker.

NK, I don't know the context of the quote, but (as you acknowledge), he's probably right. The reason to drill in the U.S. is not because it's likely to have a big impact on the price, it's because it's a profitable and economically sensible thing to do. So if he's dumb, it's not from that quote, but would be if he then leaps to the conclusion that we shouldn't explore and drill for oil here.

MayBee

OK, this gossip thread is winding down, TM. How about trying a Kruger/Sanchez gossip thread?

ha ha ha ha ha.
She's a pretty girl, but you'd hope a grown man would feel at least a little queasy when the girl he wants to bonk talks about her high school classes.

Is it really that important to have sex with every girl you can?

Janet

It's tough being a Congressman when you're trolling for your soulmate on Craigslist.
LOL, Jim!
Where do they find the time to read all those long bills?..oh yeah...never mind.

jimmyk

I feel sorry for the girl--the mom seems to be a real piece of work who had no business having any kind of custody of a child.

Captain Hate

Dirty Sanchize showed as much judgement on that jailbait as he did on those three consecutive passes that were intercepted the second time the Jets played New England.

NK

JimmyK-- context was Congessional hearing today about Oil prices and US production. One side criticized Obama for barring Gulf drilling, the other (like inslee) said alternative energy and CAFE mpg is the way to go. The carry trade speculation is primarily a Dollar/Inflation hedge, but like all speculation it is significantly affected by psychology. The Commodity speculators use the Obamaniacs anti-fossil fuel jihad (like Inslee)in their pitches to investors. Open up US Oil and nat gas, cut federal spending and strengthen the dollar, the commodity longs will get slaughtered like the pigs they are, and real world supply and demand will drive oil prices. That's why I correctly refer to Inslee and his ilk as a dumb F#%&ker.

NK

ThomasC said--"OK, this gossip thread is winding down, TM. How about trying a Kruger/Sanchez gossip thread?"
ThomasC and JimmyK, my guess is that Tom M will stay away from the Kruger matter and not see the humor in it. I think the concept of Fairfield County teenage girls gone wild cuts a little too close to the maguire parental sensibilities. I have a mental picture of Tom M putting fingers in ears and shouting la,la,la, when stories like that come up. I know I DO. I texted a copy of that NY Post story to my 17yo, with a brief reminder that she is not blessed with an indulgent parent.

narciso

Well Inslee's hot air could power the lights on Capitol Hill for a year, but generally you don't cars on solar or wind,

daddy

Too bad this guy wasn't a porn addicted, cocaine addicted, movie star like Charlie Sheen. ">http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/110842/20110210/charlie-sheen-s-popularity-rating-up-in-a-recent-poll.htm#"> Instead of losing his fans amidst the drug and sex related controversies hounding the Two and a Half Men star, Charlie Sheen has reportedly become even more popular, with an increased number of fans expressing their full support for the beleaguered star.

"The poll, conducted by polling firm Penn Schoen Berland for the Hollywood Reporter, shows that 26 percent of 700 Americans surveyed have expressed a ‘much more’ or ‘somewhat more’ favorable for the actor even after all the issues on alcohol, drugs and women have been on the headlines in practically all media outlets in the US."

We are out of our minds.


narciso

"What do you mean, we kemosabe"

Dave (in MA)


Christopher Lee with no shirt on.
What's the big deal?

Melinda Romanoff

I can ask WHICH carry trade. The oil trade (Brent, not WTI), in my opinion, is a function of it merely being priced in dollars, combined with the primary lending being done by the money center banks to their loyal (meaning HFT and hedge funds) customers. That float is chasing the highest leverage trade most impacted by a perception dollar dilution at the point of injection (QE2), where it landed, at the banks.

Thomas Collins

NK, my kids are now 27, 24 and 21. When they were in high school, I never interfered with their choice of friends, same sex or opposite, with one exception. My oldest complained at the time, but a few years later admitted I was correct in forcing the ending of the liaison, and she then noted that the guy's father had asked her whether she wanted to do porn videos. My low life detector turned out to be correct in that case.

NK

I was referring to the bushel full of Dollar priced commodity futures carry trades -- but not currency futures trades.

Melinda Romanoff

Reuters Live, with translation.

FYI. (from Drudge)

clarice

Another republican sex scandal with no sex and no real scandal. Pheh We need to start electing some Brits to Congress --they know how to do it up right.

Melinda Romanoff

Currency futures are like talking about the pricing power of penny candy, IMO.

I was referring to the choices of currencies under which one can finance trades.

NK

ThomasC-- congrats on successfully raising your kids to adulthood. Raising kids is the most noble and fulfilling duty any of us have. Like you, I let my kids make their own mistakes-- within reason. I was mostly joking about the Kruger stuff. But it is a big consern for us unwashed masses in Fairfield County that our kids get a skewed view of the world from the insane wealth that some of these kids -- like younf Eliza-- come from. No offense TomM, some of my best friends are rich.

NK

The dollar priced stuff -- it disgusts me that traders treat US taxpayers and consumers like patsies by making daily -- winning-- bets that the Dollar will be more worthless 3 months in the future. And the Fed, CFTC, the President, all of them, stand by and lets it all happen.

Melinda Romanoff

HFT systems just follow the bias inherent in their coding.

Self-fulfilling.

Captain Hate

How old are your children, NK?

Mustang0302

Dave (in MA),

How about Maud Adams or Britt Ekland with nothing on?

The only two reasons to watch the worst Bond flick ever made.

And no...I wouldn't e-mail shirtless pics of myself to either of them...even back in the day.

Lee is a nimrod dweeb. What a loser.

NK

I agree that HFT drives the trades, but as you say the HFTs follow the bias, and for years the bias is that the Dollar is a worthless piece of crap, so the traders treat the Dollar that way and gin up the price of commodities. Presto, spiraling food and energy prices. As it turns out where I am now, those costs are a relative small part of my life. But it's is killing the real economy and weakens America, notwithstanding "the Bernanke's" repeated canards that "the Inflation" is low.

NK

CaptH-- 19, 17

Captain Hate

Congrats NK and I agree with your emphasis on the responsibility of raising children. If I thought I was a poor father I'd consider myself a total failure.

NK

BTW-- on the other thread, Mubarak stays-- basically, the House of Saud is paying him more that the US taxpayer, that plus, this is a big ole' FU to the Obamaniac from the Saudis. Maybe he'll bow for Abdullah again.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Grown men, meaning guys over 17, who still feel the need to show off their physique have issues. Don't guys know that it is a turnoff. If they are so in love with themselves, they really are not a good catch. Being married is another. I think the people in his District are lucky to be rid of this immature jerk.

Ignatz

--NK, I don't know the context of the quote, but (as you acknowledge), he's probably right. The reason to drill in the U.S. is not because it's likely to have a big impact on the price, it's because it's a profitable and economically sensible thing to do.--

I'm not so sure the effect would be as small as some imagine. Above the actual extant supply and demand is some level of future expectations regarding same and in a rising market like this often a good deal of speculative froth on top of that. The prospect of added supply can very quickly douse the expectations and the froth.
It was not entirely coincidental that the price broke at $145 in 2008 shortly after "drill, drill, drill" looked like a reality.

MayBee

Grown men, meaning guys over 17, who still feel the need to show off their physique have issues. Don't guys know that it is a turnoff.

Hmm. I'd say it depends on the manner in which they choose to "show off". Do I want an unsolicited email picture? No.

Am I happy when the soccer players in the World Cup take off their shirts? Oh yes.

NK

Ignatz-- I had pretty much the same response. I think the psychology of the commodity speculator betting that the US will continue to not pump and explore is a big part, but in 2008 what drove oil from $140+ to $40+ in less than 90 days was the unwinding of carry trades when the financial panic hit, and everybody wanted out of every type of long position and raise liquidity. The dollar surged for almost a year in a 'flight to quality'. The 2 go together but, the carry trade speculation has the bigger impact. I admit that.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I am reading that Trump got mixed response at CPAC. I have had three 35-45 year olds tell me since last night that if Trump runs, he has their vote and two said they'd volunteer for his campaign. Since these are normally apolitical guys who rarely watch or read anything not about sports, I like to use them as a barometer. Just sayin'

Agent J. (formally known as "J"..

Trump as President and John Bolton for Vice President..one for the economy one for world affairs..

Melinda Romanoff

NK-

What happened to the Crude trade from the highs in July '08 through the collapse of Lehman, the second week of that September, occurred in EVERY asset, commodity, bond, and stock. That's because the amount of leverage being applied to any and all assets was untenable, margin calls by all parties trying to retrieve cash, caused forced liquidations in everything. The carry trade, the original carry trade done in Yen (and still is, BTW) that is, ceased to be financially viable. The last, lone dollar that Wall Street had loaned to itself was being shredded by each repo desk trying to staple it down. I'm not even going into the mysterious bank run on the 15th of September that almost forced the US system to fail, $500 Billion an hour being withdrawn from the system via London could have caused a bit of damage, had the Fed not stepped in.

Calling it all, currently, "The Carry Trade", oversimplifies the enormity of the various factors the the new ZIRP has brought to the system.

It would fill a book and at least two Senate Floor worthy charts in interconnectivity.

Melinda Romanoff

Trump as President?

Aside from self-promotion, the only other thing he's good at is serial bankruptcy.

No, thank you.

clarice

Trump's just another kind of American Idol contestant..Way overrated.

Captain Hate

Please don't have Trump become Perot v2.0 and let Bammy pull a Clenis.

NK

MelindaR-- all fair points, as usual. I would be glad to use the general ZIRP environment in lieu of
'carry trade' to decribe the cause of dollar debasement that underlies the commodities inflation and other asset bubbles that have the bane of the real economy for the last decade. A cynic would say ZIRP has replaced phoney baloney accounting as the scam Wall Street pulls to make its big bucks. Hey, didn't Greenspan and the Bernanke testify that's what they were doing?

NK

From Buffet's interview with the Commission "investigating" the meltdown--"“It was a bet essentially on the fact that the government would not really shirk its responsibility at a time like that to leverage up at a time when the rest of the world was trying to deleverage,” Buffett said in an interview released today by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission. "

God, these guys play us all for suckers.

Captain Hate

What is it with the CPAC thing? It's like the Iowa caucus for Repubs where Ron Paul's band of idiots go to make asses out of themselves, including booing Cheney and Rumsfeld. Plus Newt makes a speech that acts like nobody can remember his cozying up to Pelosi Galore about save the planet.

I thought Sarah Palin made a wise decision to skip it.

clarice

Capt..who exactly is dumb enough to support Trump? Two wifes; countless bimbos and as many bankruptcies in which he left others holding the bag for his overly optimistic plans?

Speaking of which McCain is attacking Mubarak for not stepping down..Boy did both parties give us some first rate choices to pick from.

clarice

**wiVes**

MayBee

Three wives.
Ivana, Marla, and the one he has now.

Captain Hate

Seriously Clarice, the 2008 election is looking like the worst choice of stinkers ever.

maryrose

Melania is the current one I think. I have to admit I do watch the Apprentice.Trump has better ideas on the economy than Obama. He didn't think Obama should be so cosy with Hu or give him a state dinner.

Mark Folkestad

Dunno. To me, almost anyone trumps Trump.

bunkerbuster

``Men who feel the need to show off their physique have issues. Don't guys know that it is a turnoff.''
The latest dimwitted Republican scumbag to get caught with his dick hanging out was merely "playing the market."
He was not presenting himself to women in general, but rather to a woman he ludicrously assumed would be turned on by the sight of his physique.
"Jerks" aren't seeking to attract women in general, they are trying to lure in only the kind of woman that at least leans toward a male view of sex: the sooner the better, the more the merrier.
The scaring away of "normal" women is intentional.

NK

Bunkie!! I am at a loss, how to respond to a 17 yo's freudian analysis. Truly, I have no words....

bunkerbuster

alas, NK, alas, you do have words, feeble as they are. What you don't have is a working knowledge of Freud, obviously. Get thee to wikipedia, fer chrissakes...

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Well Bunkie, I'm not sure how advertising that you have serious self-esteem issues and a warped view of sexuality brings on the more the merrier. If all I wanted was a one night stand, I'd go to a bar. Even I, at my advanced age, would bet I could find more than one guy willing and ready to tumble. And publishing a half naked picture of yourself in a public forum is pretty darn immature, a real case of arrested development.

Ignatz

Sounds like bubu has considerable first hand experience in how to scare away "normal" women.

Captain Hate

He seems to have a lot of insight into dysfunctional behavior.

Captain Hate

Btw, the Ronulans have landed @ AoS. Is there a full moon?

bunkerbuster

Sara: the dimwitted Republican scumbag didn't ``publish a half-naked picture of himself in a public forum.'' He e-mailed it to someone who'd made him believe she'd appreciate the opportunity.
Does that fact change your view?

bunkerbuster

Sara declares ``I could find more than one guy willing and ready to tumble.''

I'd bet you could, but why? Because men at bars will go home with anything. Suppose you were a man, same age and level of attractiveness. Would you make the same bet?
If you understand that, you're on the way to understanding why a series of dimwitted Republican scumbags have been caught with their dicks hanging out...

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

Bubu, now can you tell us what you think about Ted Kennedy killing his date,Barney Frank housing a gay prostitution ring, Eric Massa coming on to his male staff and Bill Clinton lying under oath to hide a blow job. Ya know, all those democrat scumbags caught with their dicks hanging out.

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

Clarice,

I was dumbfounded by McCain's remarks.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Well Bunkie, I don't know all the particulars, but the only women who seem to use Craigslist as a dating site are prostitutes and if I was a man of the same age and attractiveness, I doubt I would be looking for "love" on Craigslist. If it is as you say, sent in a private email, obviously the woman was setting him up for blackmail or how else did the picture end up plastered all over the Internet? And this isn't the first time Lee has been in trouble since getting elected.

What being a Republican has to do with it is over my head.

narciso

Nothing surprises me anymore, really, those willing to support Trump for anything, belong
on the special SCAM list, which you get on, by
answering one of those Nigerian 419 emails. The kind of lamprey that would attach is Roger Stone, who helped Paladino, crash and burn, like Slim Whitman in 'Dr. Strangelove'

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Not quite his d**k hanging out, but pretty darn close:

image

Mustang0302

bb's obviously titillated. Been a long time, huh, bb?

Mustang0302

Slim Pickens, narciso. "Well, boys, this is it. Nuc'lar combat toe to toe with the Russkis."

Slim Whitman wiped out the Martians in Mars Attacks!

bunkerbuster

``What being a Republican has to do with it is over my head.''

Republicans insist they are comfortable scrutinizing others' sex lives. That's why the party affiliation is relevant.

Jane: Kennedy's girlfriend died in an accident. The fact that Teddy tried to cover it up shows he's a man of exceedingly weak character. Thankfully, he never showboated his sexual morals, so at least he was invulnerable to claims he was a hypocrit. As for Frank, I've seen no evidence that he was "housing a gay prostitution ring." I have seen some claims, which Frank denied, that someone who lived at his house was involved in prostitution. I find that completely understandable and not a matter to be concerned about in the least. If there's evidence Frank himself was involved in prostitution, then, of course, I'd be a little more concerned, but not by much. Eric Massa -- I've no opinion. I just don't know enough about what happened, though what I did hear sounded mostly like he's a little confused about appropriate behavior -- no sign at all that he's dimwitted or a predator or a jerk. As for Bill Clinton's lie, I consider that in the context of the unfairness of the allegation. I really don't care who he gets blow jobs from, as long as it's consensual. All the evidence I've seen shows that Lewinsky wanted to be involved and only ratted out the president because she felt jilted. Sure, it casts a bad light on Clinton's judgment, but there are too many other examples of excellent judgment that offset that...

Mustang0302

Chewin' your nails over this, ain'tcha bb?

Poor bb. Last thing she had twixt her nethers ran on batteries.

Didja go to school to get like that, or'd it just come natural?

Must be lonely bein' the mother of an imaginary Marine.

Ignatz

--Republicans insist they are comfortable scrutinizing others' sex lives.--

They do? Cite?

--Thankfully, he never showboated his sexual morals, so at least he was invulnerable to claims he was a hypocrite.--

And there we have the left's very essence; we have no morals so how can we violate them?
But of course even that depends on a stupid and vacuous definition of hypocrisy.
Hypocrite; a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives.
A person who has standards he actually believes in but falls short of living up to is not a hypocrite. He may be a sinner or a weakling but he's not a hypocrite.
A hypocrite would be a dedicated socialist film maker who happens to also be a fat slob suing to make sure he gets all his filthy capitalist profits.
Or some dope commenting at a blog about the stupidity of identity politics while intentionally practicing it non stop.

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

Republicans insist they are comfortable scrutinizing others' sex lives. That's why the party affiliation is relevant

Bullshit. You are the one scrutinizing someone's sex life - and I am pretty sure you haven't become a republican.

Jane: Kennedy's girlfriend died in an accident.

LOLOLOL - if you had ever set foot in Chappaquiddick you would not be saying that. Even my co-host on the radio, who considers himself one of Teddy's good friends would laugh at you for that remark.

You are appalled by someone advertising on Craig's list, but having a gay prostitution ring operated out of your apartment is just ducky. What a joke you are.

And you think it is okay to lie under oath if you disapprove of the context of the situation. Funny, when a state senator friend of mine said the same thing I vowed I would never vote democrat again. Like her, ethics is clearly not your strong suit.

Please, do not go to law school.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Goodness, I just watched a birther video which shows Maya Soetoro, Obama's half sister, born in Jakarta, but also has a Certificate of Birth registered in Hawaii.

I'm not all that impressed with this video as they use Palin and Gabby Giffords as examples but did their search using their married names. Normally, you do not search for birth or baptismal records under someone's married name.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Lewinski wasn't Clintons only problem. I think Paula and Anita would question your sanity. Clinton is/was a slut, that's why his campaign needed a "bimbo patrol." Of course, according to his close adviser, they were just trailer trash and don't count.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Jane, Teddy was a real problem, but let's not forget his older brother, Jack, aka JFK.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Oh, and there is Gary Hart as well.

bunkerbuster

Ignatz spins: ``A person who has standards he actually believes in but falls short of living up to is not a hypocrite.''

``Standards" can only be measured by behavior. It's beyond moronic to measure politicians by their purported beliefs, but a telling demonstration of how identity conservatives think.

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

Sara,

I don't care who people sleep with, regardless if they are democrats or republicans. I care that they lie under oath. I care that they get away with manslaughter. I care that some people are treated differently than others.

I knew Gary Hart in the early '70's. It was pretty clear he could be yours for the asking even then.

MayBee

but rather to a woman he ludicrously assumed would be turned on by the sight of his physique.

Why is that ludicrous?

NK

Bunkie-- you are right, I lack any knowledge of Freudian or other psychoanalysis. Alas I am too emotionally shallow to have had the privilige of such analytic experience.. Bunkie... you on the other hand, whatever is wrong with you is no small thing.

Mustang-- fantastic major kong quote. here's another fav of mine:

Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

Ignatz

--Ignatz spins: ``A person who has standards he actually believes in but falls short of living up to is not a hypocrite.''--

That's not spin. It's the converse of the definition I supplied of "hypocrite".
Thanks for again projecting your "identity" banality and proving my point though.

--Why is that ludicrous?--

Cause it's never worked for bubu?

bunkerbuster

May asks: ``Why is that ludicrous?''

Because, as Sara already pointed out, most women find such displays a turnoff. Women who advertise on craigslist may be more likely to appreciate neanderthal gestures like that, but it is ludicrous to assume that was so in this case, based on the e-mail exchanges the two had had.

Jane: why does it matter whether someone is under oath or not? Do you find it more acceptable, for example, that Bush claimed to be "certain" that Iraq had WMD? He wasn't under oath, but the cost of his lie is measured in hundreds of thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars. What were the consequences of Clinton's?

clarice

I think Republican congresscritters have to understand they are being targeted . This guy was hardly well known--how did the craigslister know who he was and why did she bother turning him in?

bunkerbuster

``did the craigslister know who he was..''
Wake up, clarice, and shake off the paranoia...
There's this thing called Google. When you're thinking about hooking up with someone you met online, and you have more than one brain cell, you Google them to see what you can find out about who they really are. That's what happened to the dimwitted Republican scumbag Lee.
"Targeted"? ROTFL...

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