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February 01, 2011

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Jack is Back!

Sazaam, Sargent Tom, the scary part is to read the other 10 that are on the precipice. We better get carriers back to sea quickly or oil is going thru the roof regardless of what the Donald said.

clarice

Sooner or later we all leave the scene. when Haass tells us when Mubarak's is leaving I'll pay attention. Right now, like ranger, I think this will fizzle down for a while even though Al-Jazeera is doing it's best to make us think it's growing .

narciso

It maybe more like February 1917, with whoever
wants to fit the Kerensky shoes, or 1905, a temperary respite

Jack is Back!

Rush just said Mubarak is stepping down and the MFM are already giving BHO the credit. I see another Peace Prize in his future.

narciso

How did that work out the last time, JiB

RichatUF

JiB-

The report at Drudge said he isn't running for re-election? Not sure how having the Iranian stooge el-Barabei peacocking around Cairo is going to redound to our benefit.

Frau Steingehirn

Talk about grandstanding and backstabbing! John "Foreign Leaders want Me" Kerry who bragged about his *close* relationship with Mabarak has an article (no use wasting an LUN): A Future without Mubarak.

Wouldn't I like a future without him and the woman whose bunions he rubs.

Ranger

Well, in the live feed from AJ, there is still a lot of open space on the square. Even with Mubarak not running for re-election, the existing elite is still firmly in charge. El Baradei will lose if he is the opposition candidate. He's not very popular with the general population, or with the core of the elite, but his presence on the ballot will probably fragment the opposition vote.

Mubarak sticking around until the next election is actually a lot longer than I would have exspected. Without being able to pass power to his son, he really has no reason to stay in power much longer. He can just dump all the country's problems in someone elses lap and enjoy a comfortable retirement in London if he wants.

Frau Steingehirn

Ranger, perhaps it gives Mubarak and others time to secure whatever they want to have in their retirement.

clarice

Rush was probably relying on that now denied Fox report.

narciso

True, but given what we know about Londonistan, would be really be safe there.

Frau Steingehirn

Speaking of Fox, Bill Richardson is on now faintly praising El Baradei and calling him "a straight shooter." I wish the rhetoric of violence would end.

Neo

Winning The Future, Chevy Volt Edition

Man asks woman for the chances of a date.

Woman says about 3%.

Man shows woman 'his' obsidian-black 2011 Chevy Volt, (actually on loan for the day)

Woman says about 3 and 1/2 %.

Veeshir

It's a good thing we're winning the future, cuz it surely looks as if we're losing the present.

narciso

FWIW, this is being speculated on, give it whatever consideration, you deem necessary, in the LUN

Captain Hate

Rush just said Mubarak is stepping down and the MFM are already giving BHO the credit. I see another Peace Prize in his future.

Per Tammy Bruce: Where's the evidence Preznit Party Hardy even cares about what's going on in Egypt?

clarice

I just was forwarded an email from an E. gyptian student . The sender is his professor here who vouches for him-I am trying to get permission to reprint it. Bottom line, ranger's right. The "overthrow" is over.


security and food are the big issues now and people want stability more than ever:

" So where are we today? Well the answer is still not clear, yet a couple of conclusions are evident.
1. The Gamal inheritance scenario is finished.
2. Mubarak will not run for another Presidential term. His term ends in October and either he will serve the rest of his term or will resign once things cool down for health reasons, which are real. He is dying.
3. The army is in control now. We are heading back to the “golden age” of army rule. The “kids” are no longer in charge. The “men’ are.
4. Until the economy fails again, the neo-liberal economic policies are over. Forget about an open economy for some time."

I can hope, can't I?

I'd like to say I called it as soon as I saw the Army and the people copacetic, but hey, I did.

This should be our Army. We bought it. We trained it. You know, there might be something to it. Lots of graduates of the Command and General Staff College at Ft. Leavenworth there.
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Chubby

I wonder how Sharia economics could ever fill the gap left by withdrawn billions of US foreign aid.

What say, Soy?

Interesting to contemplate that little ol' Ft. Leavenworth may be the most democratizing influence of the 21st Century.
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Sue

Kirsten Powers is tweeting asking why liberals are defending Muslim Brotherhood. I always wonder why liberals defend anyone who hates the US. She only wonders when they defend Muslim Brotherhood?

MarkO

Now we know what it looks like to vote "present" in conducting foreign policy. The USA is for "goodness" not "badness."

Whatever happens, Obama will call it "good" and take credit. It's hardly worth watching.

clarice

Let this be a lesson to you--news coverage from the ME is 99% B.S. and US pundits on these things are about 99.9% B.S.

Just weeks ago those street mobs believed that Mossad was training sharks to eat them.

Rick Ballard

I wonder what size protest marches here would be necessary to get Mubarak to advise Obama not to run in '12? Would 5 million members of the Tea Party Brotherhood in the streets on April 15th do the trick?

lyle

Just weeks ago those street mobs believed that Mossad was training sharks to eat them.

You mean Mossad wasn't training the sharks?!? Damn, I loved that one.

narciso

No, lyle, they needed to fitted with lasers, first, lol.

narciso

How Tina let this be published, along with that fairly sober piece by Les Gelb, is a mystery, in the LUN

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Mubarek is speaking live now.

Extraneus

Did you say sharks?

VIDEO: Thousands of sharks spotted off Palm Beach

Stephanie

The coverage on CNN and AJ and BBC has not only been for international consumption. It has also been for Mubarek's consumption. The narrative has been defined and must be followed.

You don't seriously think Mubarak is roaming the streets to get a feel of what is going on or that he has any confidence in what anyone is telling him - army or not. He's being led to the outcome that the narrative has predetermined.

The interesting question is whether the folks driving the narrative are really driving or whether the side seat drivers will ultimately assume control.

Curious thing about relying on others to do your job. You can never be sure they are doing it your way or their way.

Chubby

I do think dealing with Mubarak was a necessary evil but I don't see any need to exalt his status to that of a saint. I see him more as running a kind of protection racket.

clarice

In just a few minutes the entire report on the Egyptian Revolution will be up at AT,

clarice

Chubby, There are no Thomas Jeffersons or George Washingtons in that part of the world--or anywhere else frankly.But especially not there.

And the populations are not freeholders who left the Old World behind to take a lot of risks for liberty.

Chubby

((Chubby, There are no Thomas Jeffersons or George Washingtons in that part of the world--or anywhere else frankly.But especially not there.))


That's why I said, "necessary evil"

((And the populations are not freeholders who left the Old World behind to take a lot of risks for liberty.))


I know. I've posted the stats on the majority Egyptian world view from the notorious Pew Poll twice already here on JOM.

lyle

With all this talk about Egypt with their Pharoahs 'n stuff that evokes the Old Testament, seem apropos to reference the jawbone of an ass. LUN

MarkO

Why does this remind me of "The Sting?"

TODAY: 'Obama urges Mubarak not to run again'...

clarice

The message is in the process of being posted..it is an extraordinary story of the events.

narciso

Specially, with what we know of Kerry, before hand, shameless seems all too shallow a description. It's interesting who they sent
to 'bring the hook' on Hosni, Frank Wisner Jr,
a former associate of the late Holbrooke in Vietnam, one who was stationed in Cairo, in the thick of the turn toward Saddam

clarice

If my memory doesn't fail, FW is a chip off the old block.

Jack is Back!

Something you won't see in Cairo: Dave, TC and Janet during their commute tomorrow:)

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Narciso posted this link last night and I commented on it then, but I'm posting it again. This is the first time that I can remember hearing comments about Obama from those who knew him as a teacher in Chicago. I was surprised at how much the remarks were more "damn him with faint praise" than actually complimentary. It seemed particularly strange to me coming from the NYT. I'm wondering if anyone gets the same impression?

Teaching Law, Testing Ideas, Obama Stood Slightly Apart

narciso

Birds of a feather, with the late Holbrooke, served in Tunisia, interestingly, Egypt, and India, where this connection comes to light

Sara (Pal2Pal)

JiB: Strangely, that is the way I remember Winter in Western PA when I was growing up. My Dad would have to get up really early to shovel a narrow path so that I could get out of the driveway to walk to school. The snow would have been over my head otherwise. And we NEVER got a snow day. Occasionally school would be started an hour or two late to give teachers a chance to get there after the cinder trucks took care of the hilly and mountainous roads, but kids were expected to get there because all we had to do was walk, ice or blizzards be damned.

jimmyk

I was surprised at how much the remarks were more "damn him with faint praise" than actually complimentary. It seemed particularly strange to me coming from the NYT.

I think the Times was just so gaga over Obama, and especially with the idea that he was some kind of erudite professorial type, that they saw everything about him with rose-colored glasses.

narciso

OMG, JiB, we never had that kind of weather in Jersey.

clarice

The Story of the Egyptian Revolution is now up
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/the_story_of_the_egyptian_revo.html

Sara (Pal2Pal)

One year during a bad storm, I was running late, so I talked my Mother into driving me to school. I left about 2 hours earlier than she did to go to work, so she just threw on a long heavy coat over her bathrobe and pulled on some boots and drove me. We didn't have any trouble getting down the hill to the school, but when my Mother tried to get back home so she could dress for work, she couldn't get back up the icy hill. Her only choice was to keep going down the 3 mile grade into downtown and to her office. She had to hide out with the door closed for about 2 hours sitting there in her bathrobe and nightgown until they got the highway cindered. She said that was the last time she ever went to work without a full change of clothes hanging in her office in case of any future emergency.

Jack is Back!

narciso,

When I lived in the UP of Michigan building a power plant and taconite mill, we would get up to 156" a year (lake effect). Every car had an extra long antennae with a tennis ball attached so you could see if there was another car at the 4 way stop sign before you proceeded.

Clarices link at LUN

caro

Jack,is that photo flopped or is it in the Lake District?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

The worst in Michigan was the lake effect icy winds. I went to school there and it was brutal in the Winter to get to 8 AM classes clear across campus. Students would come into class with icicles on their eyelashes and looking more like the Abominable Snowman than human.

caro

By the way, our year to date snowfall is 201" as of today.

Vladimir Putin

Mubarak will not run for another Presidential term.

At a certain point it's wise to step aside from electoral politics and let somebody else take the responsibility that comes with being voted into office.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

CNN (Anderson Cooper in Cairo) is reporting that ElBaradei is claiming that Mubarek's statement is a trick and that he (ElBaradei) is furious with Mubarek's statement.

lyle

By the way, our year to date snowfall is 201" as of today

YTD 2011?!? Yikes.

narciso

That raises the question, 'who's the greater fool" Vanderbilt or El Baradei

Sara (Pal2Pal)

201" Wow! That's nearly 17'. Let's hope we don't have a really fast thaw or the Spring floods will be catastrophic. Just heard from Granddaughter in Indianapolis. She is 7 and she wanted to tell me that the trees had turned to glass and it was really pretty. I heard her Dad in the background saying that pretty was in the eye of the nondriver. :)

clarice

I hope you will find time to rip yourselves away from the crap on tv to read the amazing and detailed true story of the Egyptian revolution, If you do you will know 150% more than dot those tv yappers

Jack is Back!

caro,

A friend in New Hampshire sent it to me. Don't know where it is.

daddy,

Get the February issue of Nat Geo - Underground Paris is the cover story. I'm tellin ya, these journalists and writers are lurking here and stealing everyone of our posts for use later on. Anyone practicing Intellectual Property?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

JiB, you reminded me.

Daddy:

I see your volcano was only engaging in foreplay the other day when you flew into Japan and today it just exploded big time.

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

That's a great piece. I particularly enjoyed the reference to Baghdad Bob Baradei at the end. If the writer is correct (and I see no reason to doubt him/her) then the army will have to come up to speed on the social networking aspect fairly quickly in order to develop counter tactics.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Since Issa is my Congressman, I'm particularly interested in his Hearings and I think this does not bode well. The Admin is so corrupt, I don't see how they survive. They trash a judge, snub a Congressman, and I'll bet there are more than a few who think the Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over them.

“I was disappointed to learn that on or about Jan. 20, 2011, DHS’s Office of General Counsel instructed career staff in the Privacy Office not to search for documents responsive to my request,” Issa says in the Feb. 1 letter.

President Obama snubs Issa on first major document deadline

Jack is Back!

We leave tomorrow for Buenos Aires and our MacMania cruise. We're taking Master JiB who is going to blog about the cruise for his class. Anyone here a Wordpress user and expert? All advice appreciated.

MayBee

To me, the fascinating thing about El Baradei is not that he has shown up to try to rule Egypt, but that he's outed himself as a Muslim Brotherhood/Iran stooge.

Jack is Back!

Sara,

Issa needs to bring a gatling gun to this gunfight. This is the Chicago way not the California way.

clarice

I think so, too, Rick. It is amazing, isn't it, how many themes there are in that fine piece, including stodgey old regime coming face to face for the first time with twitter. I hope people will help me get it broader readership because it is so extraordinary it could be written by any of us in the same situation.

MaryD

Clarice, it's jaw-dropping. Thanks for doing us a great service.

Chubby

Clarice, that was very interesting. Thanks a bunch for the 'scoop'.

clarice

Thank you, Mary.

clarice

I expect the way to beat the social networking includes Mobying it up, BTW, Rick.
If you can use twitter to let scaredy cats think 500 demonstrators are really 15,000 yu can do the opposite I should suppose.

clarice

Thanks, Chubby.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

JiB: I have faith that Issa is up to the job. He was the one leading the charge here in California to bring down Grey Davis, no easy task in this dem-controlled state and legislature. He has always struck me as a guy who won't suffer fools gladly. I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side if he gets really p.o.d.

Rick Ballard

MayBee,

I believe that a little digging in the fetid pile of Baradei would turn up Malloch Brown and Maurice Strong before you hit the MB. He's UN tranzi trash, which is why BOzo is pushing him (like a string).

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

Clarice,

You need to send that link to insty - best article on Egypt I've seen - and I printed it out as the very first product of my new wireless printer.

clarice

Thanks, Jane. I emailed it to him at the addy on his site. If someone has a better addy, pls do it for me. I need everyone's help in getting this account out. It strikes me as far more detailed and plausible than anything I've read anywhere else.

caro

Great information in that piece, Clarice. They definitely need a Tea Party to sort out the political future outside of the mosques.

Ranger

Clarice,

Facinating stuff. Too much to exspect that anyone in the MSM would read it and actually reconsider their understanding of what is going on. Amazing how your media can get so many stories 180 degrees wrong.

Chubby

The piece by the Egyptian "anonymous" that Clarice posted on AT covered the whole ground politically, but the nightmare descriptions of societal breakdown were the most compelling aspects of the story, imo.

clarice

I pushed to get that story out and hadn't yet had the author's permission to use his name. It is Sam Tadros and he is happy to have readers know that.

Ranger. please feel free to spread his wonderful report around. Apparently he had been trying without success to get it published when one of his professors sent it to me just as a matter of interest and I thought it so extraordinary that I pushed to get it up immediately.

Extraneus

Thanks for linking that, Clarice.

Chubby

Clarice, maybe Real Clear Politics would pick it up.

Rocco

Scary stuff

Immediately the task of the army is to stabilize the situation and enforce order. The security forces have been ordered to reappear in the streets starting tonight. The next task will be to deal with the political activists and the Muslim Brotherhood which now dominates the scene. It is anyone's guess how that will be done, but in a couple of days the Egyptians will probably be begging the army to shoot them.
daddy

Clarice just got ">http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/the_story_of_the_egyptian_revo.html"> Instalanced!

MayBee

Insty has linked it. Good stuff, miss clarice!

matt

well, with the jails empty of activists and criminals and MB's, I expect the police to be pretty busy trying to track them down. There will be mischief afoot any way you look at it in Egypt for a while unless the military crack down in the name of public order.

There are now protests in Jordan as well, and the king has fired his cabinet, so that's all going to turn out well.Any news out of Yemen?

The reports were of 2,000,000 people on the square today, which is twice what the opposition's stated goal was.

I will believe the situation is stable when someone goes on national television over there and at the end of his statement says "So let it be written. So let it be done."

Damned if I know.

An entirely different portrait of Gamal. What is wrong with this picture?
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Elliott

"Winning The Future"

I'm still amused that we got this from the fellow who's had such trouble with the word "victory." I observe in passing that Bill Clinton used a similar formulation ("claim the future") a few years ago and his visit to the White House came three days after a reference to Sputnik on the front page of the NYT.

MarkO

Ah, hell, "Back to the Future."

MayBee

Well. What was the point of that speech?

Terry Gain

Obama has just given his speech. The man who kept virtually silent during the protests in Iran has spoken. It's not for the United States to tell Egyptians who should govern them but (in the same breath) it's clear that that person should not be Mubarek. It's time for him to go.

So why the interference in Egypt and the silence in Iran?

Sue

MayBee,

Can't help you. My husband has the remote and as soon as Obama walked out he flipped over to a re-run of 2-1/2 Men.

Ranger

Well, I think its important to remember that what is going on here is a consolidation of power around the old power center, the Army. The Egyptian Army has no intention of letting the Muslim Brotherhood gain power. They have no intention of sharing power with the clerics.

matt

congrats, clarice!

clarice

Thank Sam Tadros. What an article!
I'm trying to get him a lot of exposure--imagine him on tv instead of dumbass Richardson or the rest of the flapping jaws.

narciso

That is a remarkable piece of writing, Clarice, and it rings true, because it is unlike much of the other 'first drafts of history,' that are going around,

clarice

Isn't it, narciso? As soon as I saw it it looked golden to me. What a compelling account of events.

matt

wonderful insights that I haven't seen elsewhere, clarice. I have forwarded the link to a lot of people. Excellent analysis that "sounds right".

Pierre Le Car

What's up with the protest signs written in English?

Ranger

What's up with the protest signs written in English?

Posted by: Pierre Le Car | February 01, 2011 at 07:26 PM

It means the real audiance for that comment is the international media, not the local population.

I'll bet Obama hasn't a clue.

The trouble I see with that analysis, Clarice, is that it supports a view that Gamal and crew were a liberalizing force in Egypt, presumably backed somewhat by his father. It creates a scenario of Army/Neo-liberal conflict which smells just a little funny.

I'm very puzzled. Perhaps everyone is.
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centralcal

Clarice: Once again you have scooped the MFM. I had to read the piece rapidly, because I had a Dr.'s appointment. Have returned now to say kudo's to you for getting in on AT and instalaunched, etc.

I, like some others, am going to print it out and read it more slowly (without time pressure).

It is information like that, plus the expertise of so many of you, that make this blog an absolute cannot miss on any given day!

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