Obama On Libya - We Are All NeoCons Now

William Kristol welcomes Obama home.

Dr. Dan, with sources everywhere (including many that are non-fantasy), finds the first draft of Obama's speech:

FIRST NOTES/DRAFT OF POTUS LIBYA SPEECH

By Benjamin Rhodes

I'm addressing you, my fellow Americans, because my administration's message on our war limited humanitarian intervention kinetic military action in Libya has truly and totally sucked.  Seriously, I'm gobsmacked at how f***ing incoherent we've been in communicating our rationale to the foreign policy community and the American public. 

The AP thinks Obama told some stretchers during the speech.

The NY Times is also trying to be something other than an unabashed cheerleader:

Speaking in the early evening from the National Defense University in Washington, Mr. Obama said he had made good on his promise to limit American military involvement against Colonel Qaddafi’s forces — he did not use the word “war” to describe the action — and he laid out a more general philosophy for the use of force.

But while Mr. Obama described a narrower role for the United States in a NATO-led operation in Libya, the American military has been carrying out an expansive and increasingly potent air campaign to compel the Libyan Army to turn against Colonel Qaddafi.

 

Comments

[Neo]

Dr. Dan get better as it goes.

[Danube of Thought]

The way Obama has been dancing around on this whole thing--what he's said, what he's done--borders on cuckoo.

[BumperStickerist]

Like the Grace of God, Obama's Foreign Policy defies human comprehension.

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[lyle]

Existential question of the day: When is war not war?

No googling!

[BumperStickerist]

Madness?

Apparently, for Obama, This.Is.Sparta.

All that's necessary now is for Obama to kick Ron Paul so that Paul topples into the reflecting pool.

[matt]

Has anyone in this country, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Turkey or any other participating in this kinetic military action been able to define the mission yet?

Let's start with the first step in the process. Come on..begins with a "W', ends with an "R".....

right now we're basically just blowing Qadaffi's shit up and untrained militais are going up against an army that has at the least minimal field skills. The tribal nature of the conflict is now being defined. I don't know if anyone can really identify the components that make Libya a real nation-state at this point.

Maybe they could split the country down the middle and have Libya and oh, say, Cyrenaica. I wonder what the Egyptians are thinking at this point. The Tunisians can't be happy either. Haven't heard much out of either of them.

[matt]

and India is playing Pakistan in the cricket semi-finals for the privilege of playing Sri Lanka in the finals. Nothing like a cricket death match or two to get the old sectarian juices flowing.

Whatever happened to Old Blighty vs the Aussies? At least they didn't have army corps sitting at each others borders.

[Gmax]

Another Day another troll free day! The air even smells fresher. If tree falls in JOM forest from excessive prattling by a troll, and no hears it, sees it or otherwise even notices it will the stupid troll go away and find someplace else to haunt?

[Gmax]

Perhaps its a very clever rope a dope. We make it so that neither side has much advantage, so that jihadi kills Daffy duck supporters and then Daffy duck supporters kill jihadis. Since we hate them both equally, we just sit back and watch the fun, from 30,000 feet of course.

[jimmyk]

All this Orwellian language reminds me of, back in the 70s during the glory years of the Carter administration, when Alfred Kahn, the administration's inflation czar, was told he wasn't allowed to use the word "Depression" to describe his concerns, so he used "banana" instead. Then banana producers objected so he used "kumquat."

[Walter]

I am sure someone must have pointed this out earlier, but this is as clear a case of Wag the Dog as Clinton's Afgan missile strikes.

Mr. Obama is just trying to distract us from his horrendous NCAA bracket picks.

The really scary thing is that He is probably more concerned about how they will affect his reputation than Mr. C was about Monica.

[Neo]

Moments before a conference call with reporters was scheduled to get underway on Tuesday morning, apparently unaware that many of the reporters were already on the line, Charles Schumer of New York, the No. 3 Democrat in the Senate, began to instruct fellow senators on how to talk to reporters about the contentious budget process.

After thanking his colleagues — Barbara Boxer of California, Ben Cardin of Maryland, Tom Carper of Delaware and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut — for doing the budget bidding for the Senate Democrats, who are facing off against the House Republicans over how spending for the rest of the fiscal year, Mr. Schumer told them to portray John Boehner of Ohio, the Speaker of the House, as painted into a box by the Tea Party, and to decry the spending cuts that he wants as extreme. “I always use the word extreme,” Mr. Schumer said, “That is what the caucus instructed me to use this week.”

A minute or two into the talking-points tutorial, though, someone apparently figured out that reporters were listening, and silence fell.

Then the conference call began in earnest, with the Democrats right on message.

We now have EXTREME deficits that require something more thoughtful than EXTREME mindless partisan blather.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

So if all the Arab countries get together and said "Obama must go", can we expect him to step down? I volunteer the Tea party to be the rebels.

BTW Chuck Schumer is petrified of the tea party - he can't stop talking about us.

Don't forget, April 15th is coming!

[Melinda Romanoff]

Jane-

Chuckie's afraid he'll lose his steady diet of microphones. Irrelevancy. His worst nightmare.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

DOT forwarded this latest from Japan. Apparently he is IPAD challanged.

Subject: Report from USS Ronald Reagan
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:44 AM

Report from USS Ronald Reagan

An interesting perspective from a USS Ronald Reagan sailor.

All,

Just thought I'd send an update from life today on USS Reagan. Some of you have seen of this and some haven't. Its been quite a week. Many challenging times, avoiding radioactive plumes and contamination in the environment both air and water. Sailors here are happy to help in such a trifold disaster but its also been pretty scary at times for us too. I think all the rad we've seen is safe low levels but we do hear of high levels now and again.

Since we are a nuclear carrier we have all the requisite devices to measure radiation in the environment and keep the ship safe, however, not sure the chain of command ever considered having to use these devices in a situation quite like this. Literally, our chain of command was the resident experts on things nuclear until task forces started to get set up and organized.

We had a rough time trying to figure out where to go at first but have nestled into an area north of Sendai that saw much damage and is also a safe distance from the reactors at Fukishima.

We found many people at first, ~ 10-20 landing zones, then the past few days were quieter and today we found more people that needed to be rescued.

The helos and airplanes go out and look at the country looking for people with cameras and stuff. Japanese are really smart at disaster prepardness. The displaced people that need help write sos on the ground in big fields or drop lots of stones on the ground in an helo pad shape or spell out S O S . Then the helos know there are people nearby that need help so they land and look and bring back supplies. Many, many Japanese have been helped in this way. I'm guessing they are without power but yet they inherently know to do this.

When the helos land on the ground the japanese come out and stand in a perfect line and help the helo guys unload all the goodies out of the helo in an assembly line as fast as possible. They have been ever so respectful, patient and humble. They are such an amazing people. Even in this horrible time, they maintain such respectability.

My friend who is a helo pilot told me tonight that as they were taking off after unloading supplies, a man got down on his knees and prayed to the helo guys (like a buddhist praying motion). Other Japanese have all waved, clapped, and given many types of thanks to our helo squadrons.

I saw pictures tonight from the helo's and airplanes. The pictures are amazing. I've never been to Japan but its so beautiful, the mountain sides are breathtaking and the ocean on the northeast coast is SO BLUE! There is a lot of destruction in the pictures. Towns just wiped out and houses remaining where the water stopped. I also heard the Japanese had a lot of water walls to help protect them from tsunamis and this helped in many locations but not all of course. I haven't had much time to watch the news and all we get is cnn so these pictures today were unique to me.

Today at sea I saw a LOT of trees in the ocean. It looked like a lumber yard, logs and trees everywhere. Many trees have the root systems attached. I swear, I'd bet money that chunks of land lifted up from the seaside with the trees attached because some of the trees stick straight up and down out of the water as if they are solid in ground (but the water depth is 1000-2000' in those spots. The ocean is littered with connex boxes, I've seen soooo much debris out here, I wish we could have blown some of it up so that at least they weren't hazards to navigation.

There are media from the NYTimes here today so maybe there will be more news about us coming.

The guys on the flight deck have been working so hard, its really cold outside, they have to wear overboots over their boots to protect from contamination and they return back into the skin of the ship through the foc'sle which is now a decontamination station. I've heard that line lasts an hour to get through. If your clothes or boots are too high then they take them from you and issue you new gear. Fibers and clothes hold radiation moreso then hard surfaces and so I think some things like halyards and lines may have to be thrown away. Our 'lookouts' have been inside the pilothouse almost this entire time now and believe the island structure has some contamination on it. My forecasters stopped launching weather balloons.

My team has been working so hard and sleeping so little and giving everything they've got. The forecasts for the helos are paramount and CAG is definitely concerned for his guys. The captain has told me repeatedly to keep him abreast of the winds and call him anytime when we will be 'downwind' from the reactors. There are people making 'plumes' models of the air and sea, some are good, some are great, and some are not. Its all very complicated. And the jets, well, they haven't really been flying so who knows what will happen with them.

When this is all over I intend to travel back here and find a place in the country that is clean and safe to be and enjoy everything this beautiful country has to offer.

Yesterday everyone dontated supplies from their personal stashes. I'm hoping we do that again.

All for now, sorry if this email is kind of choppy just wanted to pass along the latest.

Peace,

LCDR
USS RONALD REAGAN

[bgates]

Dr. Dan get better as it goes.

More reverent,anyway. He links to a deep thinker at TNR who has learned "one lesson we can draw from the mostly negative media commentary about the Obama administration’s actions in Libya: Presidents get more credit for stopping atrocities after they begin than for preventing them before they get out of hand."

Leaving aside the illiteracy of those last six words, apparently TNR has just discovered - and deplores! - the negative press coverage that can result when a President takes action in order to prevent an anticipated event from occurring, a useful enough concept that there ought to be a word for it.

[MayBee]

I hope Maggie does get a chance to go to an onsen in the Japanese countryside. Someday soon

[Janet - fan of civilization]

so he used "banana" instead. Then banana producers objected so he used "kumquat."

ChaCo linked this a long time ago -
Public Option Now Called 'Beer'
SUNRISE, FLA - In an attempt to pass mandatory government health care, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has announced she will call the new system, 'beer.' "We need a name with less baggage" stated Pelosi. "People like beer and we want them to like our new federal healthcare system." Inspired by the enthusiastic response to 'beer' from her staff, Pelosi referred to cap-and-trade as 'fun clown time' and card check as 'free sex.'

[DebinNC]

Insty posted this video of Navy helo guys leaving food and water for some surprised and thrilled Japanese, just as Jane's link describes. Hanky alert.

[Jim Ryan]

I dunno, bgates. If atrocities are kept well in hand, then I think everyone can live with that. Plus, we can always prevent them when we notice they're about to get out of hand.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

What an update on Japan. The Reagan's mission is clearly not routine. Sometimes we picture rescue duty as somewhat routine and danger-free. To me, it sounds like the Reagan crew is more likely to have casualties than the force in Libya. God be with them all.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Has anyone in this country, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Turkey or any other participating in this kinetic military action been able to define the mission yet?

Yes.

It's "make sure no one can blame Obama no matter what."

[Charlie (Colorado)]

What an update on Japan. The Reagan's mission is clearly not routine. Sometimes we picture rescue duty as somewhat routine and danger-free. To me, it sounds like the Reagan crew is more likely to have casualties than the force in Libya. God be with them all.

Yes, but not from radiation. Basically, don't believe anything anyone says in the press about any part of the Fukushima accident.

For example, I'm sure you heard about the three guys who were supposed to have received more than 1000 mSv (100 rem)... but did you hear it was beta, a very non-penetrating form of radiation, and they were sent home a day later with a "clean bill or health"?

Or maybe you heard about the plutonium they found... but did you hear it was comparable to the amount of plutonium everywhere left over from above-ground bomb testing? Or that a kilogram of bananas has 241 times as much radioactivity as that contributed to a kilogram of soil by the plutonium detected?

Or that the water in Tokyo returned to what the Japanese consider safe levels by the next day? Or that Japanese safe levels are 10 times higher than the international standard?

I need to write another piece on this tonight.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Basically, don't believe anything anyone says in the press about any part of the Fukushima accident.

Except me, of course.

[Danube of Thought]

The update from USS Reagan wasn't from Maggie Morton. The author is unknown, and I am trying now to find out who wrote it but I doubt I'll be able to.

[Gmax]

With the corollary, make it vague enough to allow Zero to claim all the credit if it turns out to be successful ( against all odds).

[Charlie (Colorado)]

DoT, was she transferred to the Reagan?

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Hey, Clarice made the Naval Institute blog!

[centralcal]

Thanks for sharing the email from the unknown sailor, DoT. The video clip mentioned above by DebinDC, Maggie, and the unknown person above make me very proud of our guys and gals.

Sounds like they are making some Japanese very grateful, too.

[Gmax's Long Lost Daddy]

Hey Gmax! U talkin to me? While you ninnies obsess about the PantyWaist in Chief's unconstitutional war, let me run a scenario over your face--- just for drill.

While the FOP-in-Chief commits another unconstitutional act, and gets NO RESPONSE from your ilk, he continues to plot and scheme the grandest UNCON plot of his regime, courtesy of Van Jones. And that is the US Uncut riots coming to a town near you that have ties to the White House.

Soetoro is acting more like Nixon everyday with his paranoia and isolation as he runs his czar admin's course of "dirty tricks". Why not point to Libya and have your chubby little face and fat neck turned in that direction? Make you forget about his dress rehearsal in Wisconsin--- followed by the run in London by UK Uncut..... all financed with a river of Soros cash.

So, ya, I'm a troll. You on the other hand are just an overfed fool.

[Gmax's Long Lost Daddy]

And furthermore, Soetoro needs a reason to declare selective martial law in various metro areas...just a test run. He'll be measuring the reponse of you and your Fellow Fat Neckers. FYI.

[Neo]

We all knew this was coming ...

During a Senate hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island asked Adm. James Stavridis about NATO putting forces into “post-Gadhafi” Libya to make sure the country doesn’t fall apart. Stavridis said he “wouldn’t say NATO’s considering it yet.” But because of NATO’s history of putting peacekeepers in the Balkans — as pictured above — “the possibility of a stabilization regime exists.”

... funny how Obama more or less promised this won't happen.

[narciso]

A little surprised that Admiral Stavridis would concede as much, one recalls he was not
the NATO commander, agreed upon with the member countries

[Gmax]

What did they leave the door to the mental institution ajar for just a brief second? Sheesh.

[Neo]

This is Obama’s “Sally Struthers moment.”
Yes, for only 50 missiles a day, you can help a Libyan kid live one more day.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

So, ya, I'm a troll. You on the other hand are just an overfed fool.

Hint: subject and verb should agree in number.

[Fine literature.]

The author's probably in charge of weather forecasting, DoT. That's a very nice story.
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[The Lyin' Hearted.]

The worst abuse is usually projection, but it would be nice to think he's just projecting onto Obama, too.
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[maryrose]

Melinda:
Thank you for the Ohio update on collective bargaining. I am thrilled it passed.
Porchlight:
it sounds like you are from a big family. Both my son and daughter were born in the summer one in July and the other in August. October has always been my favorite month.

[anduril]

Not all of us.

[Danube of Thought]

Maggie's still aboard USS Mustin. Someone else sent me the Reagan one but apparently doesn't know the identity of the author. My guess is that whoever started it around the web didn't want to use the author's name without seeking permission.

[Danube of Thought]

Appears Sumi has enjoined further implementation of the WI law, but it's not clear to me who the enjoined parties are.

[anduril]

Need a cause for concern? Standard Bank says Chinese copper market cause for concern.

[Frau Atomkraft]

I need your new article, ChaCo. My anxious relatives in Germany are "Clueless in Cologne."

The last thing to glow in the dark there was the New Year's Eve herring salad stored in the cold basement, but Chernobyl was seared, seared in their memories.

[clarice]

Sandy sent it to me , to, but AT won't print it w/o the author's name and permission which he's trying to get.

Love our sailors and it's not even fleet week.

[anduril]

Update on Muslim Jihad in Christian Ethiopia. Key quote:

That Muslims are an otherwise peaceable minority group in Ethiopia, but in enclaves where they represent the majority, they attack their outnumbered Christian countrymen—giving them a tweaked version of Islam’s three choices to infidels—suggests that Muslim aggression and passivity are very much rooted in numbers: the more Muslims, the more potential for “assertive” behavior.

Lot of history behind that. Let's see, now, what does that suggest as a policy for the US?

[Charlie (Colorado)]

I need your new article, ChaCo. My anxious relatives in Germany are "Clueless in Cologne."

Feed them the "understanding radiation" piece first:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/understanding-radiation/

I'll write the extended rant tonight I hope. Also, the guy at wormme.com should have a piece on the "beta burns" stuff -- he's a radiation tech with field experience.

[anduril]

Having posted my usual let's be realistic about Islam and Muslims thing, here's a pop-quiz from Leonard Pitts:

Below are four quotes. Each is from one of two sources: the Bible or the Koran, although, just to make things interesting, there’s also a chance all four are from one book. Two were edited for length and one of those was also edited to remove a religion-specific reference. Your job: identify the holy book of origin. Ready? Go:

1) “. . . Wherever you encounter [non-believers], kill them, seize them, besiege them, wait for them at every lookout post . . .”

2) “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

3) “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’ . . . do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death.”

4) “Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”

All right, pens down. How did you do?

OK, in at least one respect this quiz was really dumb. Unforgivably dumb. On the other hand there's a serious point to it that Pitts obviously doesn't get. Anyone else get it?

[Captain Hate]

Thanks for the work you're doing to counter the MFM's willful ignorance on the Japanese nuke plant, ChaCo. As somebody who wasted spent almost 20 years at an electric utility, a lot of it in hearings on setting rates, I've seen first hand some real obfuscation jobs to muddy what should be clear waters.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

I didn't mean to imply that casualties would arise from radiation, Chaco. But your information about potential injuries from radiation is great to know. With all the hysteria, it's good to have clear, scientific information.

[scott]

Props on that latest piece at pj media Chaco (the radiation overview). It's really very well done and the link to the great cartoon is very helpful. Also, thanks for setting that M. Simon straight. Some of you may remember he used to post here 3 or 4 years ago. Sounds like he's a no-nukes alarmist these days.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Oh, he's not a no-nukes guy -- but he's one of those people with the congenital inability to accept good news.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

The beta burns piece is up not on Tatler: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/03/29/skin-and-bones-what-the-beta-burns-story-means/

[scott]

I have been following the Wisconsin hearing this afternoon from sarablacthorne at twitter and it looks like Judge Sumi closed today's hearing enjoining ALL further action on 11 Wisconsin 10. More hearing on Friday I belelive.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Duh, NOW on Tatler.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Thanks for the kind words, CH.

[clarice]

Chaco's my go to person on radiation and he's gdoing a super job.

Taranto on Libya:
"Mission Inscrutable"Heh

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

From what I read on Legal Insurrection, Scott, she "clarified" her previous TRO and enjoined "further implementation of the statute until she has heard the merits (i.e, whether the law was passed in violation of the Open Meetings Act).

[Danube of Thought]

Scott, what parties are subject to the injunction?

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

DOT:

I saw nothing about how she thinks she has acquired jurisdiction over the Governor or LRA.

[Ignatz]

--Thanks for the kind words, CH.--

I meant to say something similar a couple days ago chaco but got sidetracked.
You've done yeoman's duty countering all the nutty reporting out there.

[scott]

I beleive more parties were added DoT but I'm getting out of my lane here. Maybe Jim could answer that?

[Henry]

TV news was no help-- things are so confused the reporter said he had no idea if the law is in effect or not. Per wispolitics Sumi stopped further implementation of the law, but the DOJ says the law is in effect since Sumi didn't rule on that issue.

[maryrose]

Jim Rhoads:
My thoughts exactly. Who does she think she is assuming more power than the governor. Isn't she an appointed judge by Clinton. The law has been published and they either need to forge ahead or have a revote.

[Henry]

From wispolitics-

Sumi also warned that those who act "in willful defiance of a court order" not only may subject themselves to sanctions, but endanger the financial and governmental health of the state.

-- seems like a blanket inclusion of the entire state population. That or a tantrum.

[maryrose]

It was not passed in violation of the Open Meetings Act. Lawyers were consulted before they took the vote. Monday morning quarterbacking and union thug tactics are not going to change the facts. You lost this round dims-get over it.

[maryrose]

How does a law designed to save the state money endanger the financial welfare of the state and the governmental one. Is she going to tar and feather Walker and run him out of town on a rail? It sounds like sumi is starting to threaten people. Is she mentally stable? She obviously should have recused herself but didn't. Sounds like someone is gearing up for her 15 minutes of fame.State Supreme Court will decide it then they will just vote again and pass it again.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

maryrose: Sumi is a WI state court trial judge so she wasn't appointed by Clinton.

Henry: Her order can only bind parties to the case. Unless someone serves the Governor or the WI state payroll administrator in the case with a complaint adding them as a perty, she has no jurisdiction whatever over them, and she has no power to sanction them for violating her order.

[Danube of Thought]

It is astounding to me that this matter is still in the hands of this trial-court judge ten days into the proceedings. I realize the appellate court punted, but WTF is going on with the state supreme court?

The only people to whom the injunction can apply are people who have been sued. I have no info on whether, for example, that includes the governor.

Wisconsin is looking pretty much like a banana republic at this point, which is the end-state for union thuggery.

[Melinda Romanoff]

JimR-

I believe she graduated from law school after the 1st grade. She seems to work under the well-known precedent: "'Cause I Said So.".

I hope that clears things up. It does for me.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

Putting it kindly, Judge Sumi does not seem deterred by fine points of law -- like statutes or rules of civil procedure

[Melinda Romanoff]

DoT-

The Supremem Court election is Tuesday. They're just running out the clock 'til they can "fix" it.

Even I can see that one.

[Henry]

Jim, I'm not sure Sumi understands her limits. Legal Insurrection has this quote--

"Apparently that language was either misunderstood or ignored, but what I said was the further implementation of Act 10 was enjoined. That is what I now want to make crystal clear," she said.

-- nothing about who is actually a party to the suit, just obey Sumi or else -- even if she didn't specify what she ordered.

[lurker9876]

Then they can do another vote but then the union thugs will show up to intimidate the Republicans again.

[scott]

Per news3jessica at twitter "Does not add DOA". I don't think the Governor nor Dept of Admin were added to the suit.

[maryrose]

Henry:
She was elected to her position so let's vote her out or recall her. She's overstepping her boundaries and needs to be called on it. What is the legal recourse here?

[maryrose]

I agree with Jim Rhoads in that the Governor and the DOA can do what they want in this instance. We have a rogue runaway judge on our hands that must be stopped.

[Danube of Thought]

Who's "they," Mel? The Dems clearly want to run it out, but what the hell does it take to get the GOP off its ass?

If the Dem wins in Tuesday, when does she take office? Can the governor hold off on swearing her in until after a ruling in this matter?

I have tried asking some of these Q's at Legal Insurrection, but can't get it done because TypePad is telling me something, and while I'm down here they're doing it in Spanish.

It will be Martini time very soon...

[Henry]

Maryrose, Sumi is from Madison. They would elect a chimp as judge as long as it followed the party line. No recourse available here, even if she were to be canned for ethics violations, Madison would elect a carbon copy.

[maryrose]

DOT:
I like how you think. Delay swearing in the new one{ though I believe Prosser is going to win.} Dims still think all the voters are stuck on stupid.

[scott]

I read somewhere today Posser (sp.) will sit until the end of the term in August regardless of outcome of 5 Apr election.

[Henry]

Danube, the elected supreme is sworn in in August. The chief justice would delay that long. Enjoy your martini. : )

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

I just read the order. The Journal Sentinel has a link to a PDF copy. The Governor is not a party.

Her order enjoins the Secretary of State by name (and no one else) from publishing the law or from otherwise otherwise implementing the law including publishing a copy in the State Newspaper.

Sumi specifically declined to declare that the publication by the LRA was a nullity and without legal effect.

[Melinda Romanoff]

What?!? No Planter's Punchs?

The Court flips to 4-3 (D+) on a win by K-somtin-or-udder. The Chief Justice Shirley, will be happy to take it up, to throw it back down, and let Sumi run the show.

At least that's how it works one state south...

It doesn't take much imagination to see which way they would go withit.

Gotta go pull a Kaaaayyyrrrooooo!

[lurker9876]

Read that the Dims are having trouble getting the signatures for their Recall petitions. Now they're trying to fool people into thinking that they're signing a petition for something entirely different.

[maryrose]

scott:
Thank you for that information.Keep up the good work , Henry. I really appreciate your insights.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

LUN for a link to the order.

[lurker9876]

So could Sumi be looking for a way out without p1ssing off the union thugs?

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Link to enlarge

[Gmax]

As I was driving home, the talk radio show host was talking about having Charlie Martin on to talk about the erroneous reporting out of Japan. Chaco, you are a star! It was KSky but I think the talk show is syndicated to other markets besides DFW...

[Janet]

OT
This removing basketball hoops story at HotAir really hits home. We had the same thing happen in our neighborhood with free standing hoops. The city came through & took them away from one complaint.
Our country has gone insane. A minority of busybodies are dictating how we can live.

[Gmax]

Am I the only one who sees irony, in that the judge has restrained on a legal technicality of alleged failure to follow process to letter, yet the judge seems to ignor all of the failure of process in the filing asking for the TRO?

Gosh, I am about to return to my question about how many of these folks involved never passed a bar exam. Including the judge...

Its almost as if the delay was all that mattered here. Hmmmmmm

[maryrose]

Sara:
What a great chart. Ohio is moving in the right direction now with Governor Kasich in charge. All the dims are pissed so you know everything that is happening is good. We are also going to have photo ID for voting. The dims are howling about that one.

[Jane]

Tell the Wisconsin Tea partiers to check every single signature on those recall petitions. That is precisely what Obama did to start his illustrious career - except in his case he got all his opponents kicked off the ballot. I am quite confident that the recall drive is employing ACorn on steroids.

[Danube of Thought]

Hell, if our side has the 4-3 majority until August this law should be up, running and set in stone by then.

Sounds to me like the people who, for example, cut the state and local paychecks are not covered by the injunction. I don't see how her order affects anything at all, actually.

[scott]

heh...I just realized I'll be in Minneapolis 5 Apr. Maybe I'll cross the state line and vote for Judge Prosser Acorn style...how does Juan Modesto Rodriguez Castro-Gonzalez sound?... I'm a blonde haired blue-eyed Irishman so maybe no.

thanks for the word maryrose :)

[maryrose]

DOT:
I agree. The recalls will be interesting and with some of the dims with targets on their backs as well it may be a wash. Is the pregnant state senator coming back right away after her baby is born or will she take a leave?

[Melinda Romanoff]

Henry-

Didn't know about the August bit, but Shirley, surely, would wait for Labor Day, Just in case.

Thanks.

[narciso]

From that profile I once linked, she was formerly at DOJ, prosecuting environmental crimes, back in the 1980s, and Thompson would have appointed her; what could possibly go wrong,

[DebinNC]

Whoa, Sara, FL -755,660 jobs. At least the Obamas did their part with their Gulf Coast overnight photo-op on their way to Martha's Vineyard. I'm sure BO's turning NASA's focus from missions to building Muslim self-esteem didn't affect FL jobs, nor did his drilling ban. Ditto BO's advising families to save money by skipping vacations. And his purposely driving gas prices up, didn't hamper FL tourism either.