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March 21, 2011

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Once more onto the beach.

I have Muslim nation on fire fatigue.
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Danube of Thought

Didn't it used to be bad for the US to intervene in a civil war?

Extraneus

Wouldn't it be great to have strategically minded patriots in the White House right about now?

maryrose

Who knew the power of one man trying to make a living;denied that right-so he sets himself on fire; and the Mideast as we knew it is gone.

Ignatz

The sad thing is it really is anyone's guess whose side Barry will come down on, in this one. Is it possible to hold on all possible positions simultaneously?
Is there a shred of rhyme or reason to his behavior (can't dignify it by calling it a strategy or even a doctrine)?

daddy

Is it Yemen or Yeemin?


KayyyyyyyyyyyyyRooooooooooooo.

MarkO

"Didn't it used to be bad for the US to intervene in a civil war?"

Apparently, we're not so smart as Obama, and since you know what I think about that, we're in deep.

maryrose

Obama will continue to ignore or vote present on Yemen while he learns the Samba.

bgates

Is this democratic reform or an attempt to preserve the kleptocracy?

I'm less certain of the answer to that question here than I was in 2008.

Should this go back in the "damning with faint praise" thread?

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Hasn't obommy always tried to be all things to all people? Why should we be surprised that he is handling the problems in the middle east the same way?

daddy

"Should this go back in the "damning with faint praise" thread?"

I guss so bgates, but whatever you do, if you're at work make sure you don't click on the Google Pic page for Berlescone's women. Hubba hubba!

Jane

Obama will continue to ignore or vote present on Yemen while he learns the Samba.

LOL

cutecuddlyandcold

The British quoted action or inaction the other day.CIA threw that out with the bible quote,so I guees its okay to kill(like Plame lets good terrorsts do) world leaders,but its got the Powers all confused because of the royalty thing and Clintons,etc.The cia crew working this is all family dems and inheriting gov work,so the cia priorities for world leaders is more flexible and more money for their ngo s etc like Af/Pak..........

clarice

It's obviously all a jewish plot.

Extraneus

Hope so.

bunky

following the women to war......

Old Lurker

It would be run better were that true Clarice.

clarice

It would be I suppose. But think of it..with all of them fighting each other, who's not being attacked as much--still some, but not as much.OTOH according to the King Wauck bible if only Israel eased to exist it would be all peace, harmony and joy in the ME.

Danube of Thought

The dumbest man in the US Congress clarifies matters for us: it's about blood for oil.

The United States military action against Libya is motivated by a desire for affordable and accessible oil, a top Democrat on environmental issues said Monday. Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.), the ranking member of the House Natural Resources Committee, said that he agreed with President Obama's decision to launch, along with allies, attacks against Libya and its leader, Moammar Gadhafi. But Markey said the attacks were primarily motivated by oil. "We are in Libya because of oil," Markey said on MSNBC.
clarice

Paul Pillar, like a bad penny is back again with some shocking news:
COLONEL Muammar Gaddafi's regime secretly provided information to Britain and the US on Islamic extremists in the east of Libya, according to leaked diplomatic cables and intelligence sources. The names of hundreds of suspects were passed to the CIA and British intelligence. “There was a strong, shared concern between Gaddafi and the US and UK Governments about radical Sunni jihadist terrorists, including the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG),” Paul Pillar, a CIA veteran who negotiated with Libya over its nuclear program, told The Times.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/gaddafi-regime-fed-names-of-jihadists-to-uk-cia/story-fn7ycml4-1226025836662

Extraneus

Wow, he beat Maxine Waters in the final? You might get me interested in brackets after all.

Army of Davids

Bahrain, Oman and Yemen all simmering.

Watch Portugal too... EMU austerity measures may not get greenlighted....but I'm sure all is well in the EuroLand of social justice.

Army of Davids

per the Instapundit...

OBAMA GHRAIB: They told me if I voted for John McCain, the news would be filled with reports of war and atrocity year after year. And they were right!

This'll go well.

Political Adviser

I didn't know that the national delicacy of most of the Middle East was "waffles".

MarkO

Obama could never learn the Samba.

Ignatz

--The United States military action against Libya is motivated by a desire for affordable and accessible oil, a top Democrat on environmental issues said Monday. Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.), the ranking member of the House Natural Resources Committee, said that he agreed with President Obama's decision to launch...--

My mistake. All this time the left has actually been holding up signs that said "Mo' Blood For Oil".
We must be in narciso's bearded Spock universe, except in this one Spock is a clean shaven dunce from Massachusets.

Jane

I just got back from what was supposed to be a town hall from my absent congressman and was suddenly turned into a cable radio show with no questions from the peanut gallery.

My goodness he is slick. When asked about the debt he said it was all George Bush's fault, and no worries, social security is definitely not part of the deficit problem.

BTW I've been posting at a moonbat forum lately and this is a good indication of how they operate.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

From AFP, as reported by YNet:

Islamists hurled stones and shoes at Mohamed ElBaradei, Nobel Peace laureate and a secular contender for Egypt’s presidency, as he tried to vote Saturday in a referendum on constitutional amendments.

ElBaradei was hit in the back by a stone thrown from the crowd of hundreds but managed to escape unhurt and slammed as “irresponsible” the holding of a referendum without adequate law and order.

“We don’t want you,” the mob shouted, throwing stones, shoes and water at the former UN nuclear watchdog chief as he turned up at a Cairo polling station, five weeks after president Hosni Mubarak was ousted by mass protests.

“He lives in the United States and wants to rule us. It’s out of the question,” one of them said.

“We don’t want an American agent,” said another.

Members of the crowd interviewed by AFP before the assault identified themselves as Islamists without elaborating on their precise allegiance.


humantoll

.Clarice I think your that thing for some reason.Bible is just about damning.The way isnt spock cause hes just lucifer trying to be satan.Metal men were always computers and more perfect than Gods damning of his creations by lucifer.We were metal men like a plague to all existence and lucifers creations,so god works satan's perfection a perversion of lucifer.Gos isnt satan because he is perfect in more than creation,but all things damned or not.

Danube of Thought

I think the million monkeys have just started out on Hamlet...

Boatbuilder

Wow, Jane. It's "ketchup is a vegetable" all over again. I wonder how they are dealing with the news that "blood for oil" is OK because it results in "affordable" oil, which is not the same as "cheap" oil, because "cheap oil" is what mean, nasty Republicans want. And "cheap" oil" causes pollution and Global Wa..um ...Climate Change while "affordable" oil is...um..."accessible."

Extraneus

Apparently he does not understand that a tax refund is the tax payer’s own money. As with most lefties, he believes it is all the government money...

An astute observation, Jane, as usual.

MayBee

DoT- ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Ignatz

--DoT- ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!--

Funny, but quite sad at the same time.

Jane

I wonder how they are dealing with the news that "blood for oil" is OK

They are ignoring it. Apparently the talking points haven't been passed down.

Danube of Thought

Apparently nothing happened in the Wisconsin courts today. Harry?

Danube of Thought

All I can say is, God damn this no-class bastard to hell:

In Chile, Obama puts forth his doctrine, defending the Libya mission by claiming that humanitarian interventionism is the "core principle that has to be upheld." Crucially, Obama also took a tacit shot at Bush, comparing his own multilateral approach favorably to the former president's:

"In the past there have been times when the United States acted unilaterally or did not have full international support, and as a consequence typically it was the United States military that ended up bearing the entire burden."

narciso

No, you mook, because France and Germany, abstained, for nonidealistic reasons, but theBrits, Aussies, Poles, Spanish, Ukrainians
Salvadorans were involved, well that's all unilateral.

Ignatz

--All I can say is, God damn this no-class bastard to hell:--

Why? It takes quite a rare talent to insult not only his predecessor and his own country, but our allies as well, in one relatively short sentence.

Henry

Danube, sort of quiet in WI today. The AG petioned to appeal, and the unions decided to recall him too. The supreme court election is getting nasty, Althouse has the memos. Lots of dirt coming out about Abele (the D running for Milw County Exec), this is getting the most local news coverage. Fundraising is starting for recall defense, I have info at the office that I can share tomorrow morning.

Extraneus

Krauthammer says nuclear power is dead. Not one fatality, even in Japan, but it's dead, so he says.

Not if we get a good president in 2012, Charles.

Rob Crawford

I wonder how they are dealing with the news that "blood for oil" is OK because it results in "affordable" oil, which is not the same as "cheap" oil, because "cheap oil" is what mean, nasty Republicans want.

Except that oil companies make more with "affordable oil" than they do with "cheap oil".

narciso

Like the Tea Parties were going to cause a backlash, like Obamacare need not be defunded, 'death panels' were rash language, and we need a gas tax, pronto, sigh.

So between Cannistraro, who was described by Avrokotos as having blocked inquiries into the Afghan Arabs, in Crile's bio of Charles
Wilson, and Paul Pillar, who just undermined
the basis for the Iraq War, who does one root for, it's like Godzilla v. Mothra.

Danube of Thought

Yeah--not much of a market for unaffordable oil. Ditto unaffordable housing, but that doesn't stop the government from mandating the construction of the affordable kind.

This dismays my developer buddies, who are hell-bent on building houses no one can afford.

Rob Crawford

Extraneus, I think it's time for Krauthammer to consider retirement.

narciso

Now per the Sinjar records, a curious person might wonder why Libya became such a popular
egress point for jihadists, headed for iraq, in the late 00s, even more than Saudi Arabia.

clarice

exactly, narciso.

Ledeen says Iran has shipped its revolutionary guards to Dera Syria to complete the slaughter Assad has begun.

maryrose

Obama likes to rewrite history so it is more to his liking. He feels he can elevate himself by cutting down President Bush and our allies. This stategy has enormous backfire tendencies.
As far as re-election goes, you only need to look at 2008 old footage of obama trying to relate to people in a Pennsylvania diner. He fails to connect to them.Besides Ohio, Michigan{remember he never entered the primary there and was given delegates} North Carolina, Florida and Indiana , many people think Pennsylvania could be in play for the Republicans.Obama has a tough hill to climb and I think they'd do better with a different candidate.

narciso

I've never met him, but he gives off the aura
of one politician, I did meet one Carlos Gaviria, former President of Colombia, and
OEA chief, he struck me as an exceptionally
cold fish, no empathy really comes across.

PD

Libya produces, what? 2% of the world's oil?

If oil is the motivation, wouldn't it be cheaper to produce it domestically? Oh, right -- that's like a crucifix to a vampire.

fdcol63

"All I can say is, God damn this no-class bastard to hell ..."

Amen.

PD

This dismays my developer buddies

I suspected all along you were in tight with those filthy capitalists, now I have the proof.

clarice

Amen.

MaryD

daddy, I finally have to give up -- what the heck does kaaaaayroooooo mean?
(I have led a very sheltered life.)

PD

what the heck does kaaaaayroooooo mean?

You'll have to ask the lady out on the ski slopes with a busted leg.

daddy

DoT,

Don't lose too much sleep about it, because it wasn't just George Bush that Obama was dumping on. From his earlier short remarks it was also obvious he was dumping on George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and basically every other decent American President of the last 200 years.

Boatbuilder

I think you are right about the backfire potential, Maryrose. When you put US forces in harm's way, small-minded politics doesn't go over well. Jimmy Carter stuff.

MaryD

PD, -- I think I know what you are referring to, but I await a response from daddy.

jimmyk

Not one fatality, even in Japan, but it's dead, so he says.

I saw somewhere (Stossel, I think) that more people have died in accidents involved in putting up solar panels (falling off the roof, etc.).

clarice

Iowahawk: “At least Obama can’t be accused of lying about the rationale for this war. Because he didn’t give one.”

Henry

O/T. The Dane County Attn has until Wed to file his response to the appeal. (per Althouse). The stall could end soon.

clarice

Certainly more people die in coal mines--esp in China--eery year.

anduril

Steve Walt has his usual smart commentary: What intervention in Libya tells us about the neocon-liberal alliance. A flavor:

The only important intellectual difference between neoconservatives and liberal interventionists is that the former have disdain for international institutions (which they see as constraints on U.S. power), and the latter see them as a useful way to legitimate American dominance. Both groups extol the virtues of democracy, both groups believe that U.S. power -- and especially its military power -- can be a highly effective tool of statecraft. Both groups are deeply alarmed at the prospect that WMD might be in the hands of anybody but the United States and its closest allies, and both groups think it is America's right and responsibility to fix lots of problems all over the world. Both groups consistently over-estimate how easy it will be to do this, however, which is why each has a propensity to get us involved in conflicts where our vital interests are not engaged and that end up costing a lot more than they initially expect.

...

But the real lesson is what it tells us about America's inability to resist the temptation to meddle with military power. Because the United States seems so much stronger than a country like Libya, well-intentioned liberal hawks can easily convince themselves that they can use the mailed fist at low cost and without onerous unintended consequences. When you have a big hammer the whole world looks like a nail; when you have thousand of cruise missiles and smart bombs and lots of B-2s and F-18s, the whole world looks like a target set. The United States doesn't get involved everywhere that despots crack down on rebels (as our limp reaction to the crackdowns in Yemen and Bahrain demonstrate), but lately we always seems to doing this sort of thing somewhere.

Rob Crawford

I saw somewhere (Stossel, I think) that more people have died in accidents involved in putting up solar panels (falling off the roof, etc.).

Hmmm... look into the Australian "Green" insulation program from last year. Killed some people and burnt down quite a few homes.

daddy

MaryD,

Last summer I came home to find Momma had bought us a new Yellow Lab P'up. It became my job everyday to walk P'up off in the woods up here in Alaska.

One day walking him on a 3-4 hour hike way up to Bird Peak I got awful anxious about bears along the path, so I started hollering out P'up's name out loud, but I discovered it didn't roll off the tongue as loud as I wanted it to to keep the grizzlies away. So I started hollering at the top of my lungs each JOMer's name I could think of starting I think with Clarice.

Well that didn't work well 'cause hollering "Clarice" gets all clunky and clobbered in your mouth when you're screaming, (no offense Clarice) so I ran thru the list of every JOMer that came to mind, and by the end of it found only 3 JOMer names that rally worked well for screaming like Bloody Murder: Caro, Tom Collin's, and Elliott.

I can't find that old post right now, so I won't go into the attributes related to why screaming those particular names is so satisfying, but now when I type "KayyyyyyyyyyyyRoooooooo" it means I'm leaving to walk the dog. Plus my dog is all hosed up now and thinks his name is Caro:)

anduril

I saw somewhere (Stossel, I think) that more people have died in accidents involved in putting up solar panels (falling off the roof, etc.).

In Libya? Figures--solar power makes sense in a desert, right? Even if you've got all that oil underground.

clarice

HEH


I lways wondered what you meant though I figured it was Caro..

sbw

I'll vouch daddy's story is accurate... I read it on JOM.

Jim Ryan

Obama lies to the camera with ease. Our action in Libya is as unilateral as Bush's in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he knows half the American electorate believe Bush decided to "go it alone" and that in Libya we aren't the primary force. He has the press on his side.

Has there been another president who found it as easy and frequently useful to lie?

Danube of Thought

I understand there have been forty fatalities in this country from windmill installation accidents. Not to mention the half-million birds.

Boatbuilder

Wow. The neocons have come to power in France, taken over the UN, and infiltrated the Obama administration. Who knew?

Bill Clinton

It depends on what the meaning of the word "lie" is.

Melinda Romanoff

Daddy-

I, of course, thought you were referring to the syrup, not the local caro.

And, when pressed, I will be sticking to that story.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Bush had twice as many coalition partners for Iraq than Obama has for Libya - the list

Ignatz

--Both groups are deeply alarmed at the prospect that WMD might be in the hands of anybody but the United States and its closest allies....--

A not unreasonable position.

Melinda Romanoff

daddy-

I think I've got that bear problem licked, but you might have to leave the pup at home for your run.

clarice

I spoke to soon about going to bed--this just turned up

Reuters:
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – The Las Vegas deputy district attorney who prosecuted Paris Hilton for cocaine possession was arrested over the weekend after allegedly buying a rock of cocaine, authorities said on Monday.
Clark County Deputy District Attorney David Schubert, 47, was taken into custody in Las Vegas on Saturday afternoon and booked on one count of cocaine possession.

Janet CEO Redneck Beauty Salon Inc.

It is a world full of Eliot Spitzers. Maybe CNN will hire him...The Schubert/Spitzer Hour.

PD

Interior Approves Shell's GOM Deepwater Exploration Plan

Note, this is not a *drilling* permit:

This is the first new deepwater exploration plan approved since the Deepwater Horizon explosion and resulting oil spill. An exploration plan describes all exploration activities planned by the operator for a specific lease or leases, including the timing of these activities, information concerning drilling vessels, the location of each planned well, and other relevant information that needs to meet important safety standards. Once a plan is approved, additional new applications for permits to drill can be issued.
DrJ

So daddy, are we doing another batch of bear blueberry scat wine this year?

:)

Danube of Thought

"Has there been another president who found it as easy and frequently useful to lie?"

Clinton found it even easier, and in fact did it frequently even when he didn't need to. He seemed to feel some sort of generalized obligation to lie at all times.

Rick Ballard

Bercusconi - «I nostri aerei non sparano e non spareranno» (We ain't shooting and we ain't gonna shoot.)

The Italians won't operate under other than NATO command and France isn't cooperating or agreeing because "other Arab countries" are raising a stink.

Operation BOzo Clown Show appears a bit frayed this evening.

daddy

DoT,

"Obama also took a tacit shot at Bush, comparing his own multilateral approach favorably to the former president's" (unilateral approach)

That's where Mark Twain's quote on the Cat page fits:

"One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat only has nine lives."

Rick Ballard

That story also notes Norway's suspension of activity until the command and control situation is clarified.

This is a definite B+ moment.

daddy

DrJ,

The bears are just about ready to wake up. Its still a tad cold (@25 F recently), and we still have a nice snowy cover, with 3 fresh inches a few days back making it all clean and white. It's actually been a real relief doing the winter walks, knowing nothing's going to jump out and get us except the moose nibbling my shrubberies.

I will keep my eye's peeled for the blueberry Bear Scat, but after this winter with observing the dog and his buddies outdoor chow habits, I think bags of Moose Pellet dog food is the way to go.

Chubby

Daddy, I remember reading in a book about bears how someone who staved off an attack with an umbrella, which was all he had at hand. When he popped the umbrella open, it scared the bear so badly that it turned tail and ran. I'm thinking maybe one of those compact umbrellas that pop open at the push of a button would be a good addition to your protective trekking gear.

Chubby

P.S. Daddy, the story about the bear and the umbrella wasn't fiction, but a true story about a real bear attack.

bgates

You may have seen the story about the beauty queen who shot a guy. It raises more questions than it answers.

The 2009 Miss Tierra Verde, 25 and a slender brunet, had trouble pulling back the trigger.... Blah, blah, blah, a guy broke into her home and she shot him.... Brown lives with her fiance, 43-year-old Bobby Planthaber, in a 2,732-square-foot Tierra Verde home.

Who is this guy? He was in the news eight years ago, in a story about how he sold his boat and his car to present a $31,000 engagement ring to his fiance (who was not named Brown). As of 2003, he was supposed to be making a ton of money as an arborist, running "Planthaber Trees". The term "Planthaber Trees" shows up on 3 websites: the St Petersburg Times in their report of the engagement ring story, and 2 sites quoting that information (including this comment).

On the other hand, he has been involved in several currently non-functional corporations, including Storm & Planthaber Incorporated, Private Limos Inc, and Dirty Laundry, Inc.

Win the Future?

PD

This is a definite B+ moment.

Not to mention 404.

PD

Days of inflationary rage.

You Texans!

caro

Oh,shoot,I missed telling the story. I love the shorthand and quickly learned it meant Pup walking time. Wish I could go,too.

MarkO

I miss Clinton's flair for the lie. Obama's just clumsy with his lies, as if no one will confront him. That’s probably from a life of being told how “special” he was. Clinton is at least ten times smarter and at least 50 times more polished as a speaker. And, doughy.

DrJ

daddy,

It seems that the civets are safe for the while. Do tell when blueberry crop picks up if it is worth pursuing. Moose Pellet dog food is not a great starting point for fine wine.

:) Yes, this is obscure.

PD

More on Shell's deepwater exploration plan approval:

But the decision faces an almost-certain legal challenge from conservationists who say the government's review was weak and that it is acting prematurely by not waiting until it completes a lengthy post-spill environmental study of the Gulf of Mexico that could take until next year.
glasater

Clarice-
Ledeen says Iran has shipped its revolutionary guards to Dera Syria to complete the slaughter Assad has begun

This news item you mention was a big deal on Kudlow's show this afternoon. John Kilduff along with Spengler and another fellow felt Iran is really going to take advantage of the protests in the ME.
Kilduff is the CNBC oil specialist/commenter.
If the situation in Syria really heats up the price of oil would be a major consideration.
Just checked for the video link and it's not in the gallery site. I truly believe comments made during that segment were too inflammatory for re-broadcast--perhaps legal-wise that is. But I tivo'd it:)

glasater

Bgates-

Incredible stories! I wonder what happened to the gal who lost the fancy diamond ring.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

New info: 130 Tomahawks fired

New cost $1.5 million each, same reporter, so guess it is correction on the $600,000 figure.

daddy

Sara you still up? Looks like they just had a 6.6 afterquake over there.

Ughh. It's in my LUN. Man those poor folks are sure taking a pounding.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

daddy: Everyone's nerves have to be at the breaking point no matter how stoic they seem. You have to wonder how many of those 6.x quakes the buildings can take even if they have been built to extra strict codes.

BR

That list is unbelievable, daddy. My good thoughts.

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