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March 18, 2011

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Danube of Thought

Ewing's butt wasn't that big. Still isn't. More like Mark Aguirre. Or Adrian Dantley.

scott

Rigth on que: LibyaTV..Crusaders kill civilians in Benghazi

Tin soldiers and obama comin'...
Cindy Sheehan on speed dial...

I met some f**kin' bitch in somewhere city....take it Mick!

(that last part of levity borrowed from Keefs 'Life')

Danube of Thought

"The U.S. Troops that follow Obamas orders are as bad as..."

Say what?

sbw

DoT, ignore the noise.

bgates

Here's a gem from Ricochet:

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

Luckily for the two Constitutional law professors in elected office in this administration, today's military attack was authorized by the Secretary of State.

Jane

Ave is about 238k miles and the "super moon" is about 221K miles.

Rich,

I knew if I posted that someone who actually knew what I meant would fix it. So thank you. It's really gorgeous, isn't it?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Jane, it is still light here at only 6 pm, but I'm ready the minute it gets dark.

RichatUF

It is quite nice and nice outside here tonight. (I wasn't trying to be pedantic.)

bgates

I'm tired of hearing these rumors that Barack Obama started a war just to take over Arab oil fields. It's just not true.

The truth is Khadaffy is the only threat to Michelle's position as global fashion icon.

Ann

cc:

Yeah, she ain't the girl from Ipanema is she?

Rick Ballard

Reagan shot at Daffy without permission from Congress. I think everyone should shoot at the Deadly Duck until he becomes the Dead Duck.

I just hope that if the Libyan traitors true patriots whom we seem to be backing turn out to be jihadis we'll shoot them a bit earlier in the game.

bgates

Reagan shot at Daffy without permission from Congress.

Yeah, but he wasn't a Constitutional law professor.

Or an asshole.

sbws pee stained bed

""The U.S. Troops that follow Obamas orders are as bad as..."

I believe the rest was "...bad as the Wisconsin police who follow union orders."

DoT, ignore the noise and cower under here with me.

PD

Jane, it is still light here at only 6 pm, but I'm ready the minute it gets dark.

It's dark here in Iowa and we're seeing nothing yet.

sbw

DoT, I've set Maggie's email to be published Tueday. Thanks.

PD

I believe the rest was "...bad as the Wisconsin police who follow union orders."

You do realize your two statements are complete opposites?

Henry

Obama's bracket collapses - Butler beats Pitt.

PD

Winner, winner, Bulldog dinner.

clarice

bgates, I'm blogging that..

PD

So, is replacing a cardboard Alec Baldwin with the real one really an upgrade?

sbw

PD, the statements were designed to instigate, not make sense. In trollish, the goal is to get a response -- any response.

It's noise trying to create noise. That makes it incivility masked as civility. It's sad.

clarice

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/03/19/some-obama-milestones/

Just for bgates and hs many fans

Ignatz

--Reagan shot at Daffy without permission from Congress.--

After Daffy had challenged our fleet in international waters in the Gulf of Sidra and fired anti-aircraft missiles at our planes and attempted to engage the fleet with smaller missile equipped boats and targeted US soldiers in Berlin, killing a couple and wounding many more, none of which he's done in the last couple of decades.

Portfolio Analysis

Ya I agree, they should at least give in a little more effort

Ann

Reagan wasn't doing the samba in Rio either.

Elliott

Obama is starting to remind me of a character from Charles McCarry's The Better Angels (1979), an ascetic holy-man/political leader whose actions are determined by the visions he receives during his desert sojourns. The anonymous quotes from WH aides over the past two weeks are disquieting.

narciso

No, he's much more like the nitwit Lockwood, from the same book, which was adapted into that horrible film 'Wrong is right', where
that weasel Patrick Graham, was reimagined
as the hero by Sean Connery, and they made
Mallory, the hero, a stereotypical Texan

clarice

Well, Elliott, tonight the left is going nuts. Michael t Moore is exploding.

Ann

GretaWire Breaking News:

The US Ambassador to Mexico just resigned....the situation in Mexico is deteriorating. We keep telling you on OTR at 10pm. President Obama and President Calderone won't admit how bad it is - they gave Secretary Clinton a hard time for teliing it like it is. We have been there with Clinton...it is bad. She is right!!!


clarice

We're all drinkers now. Or should be.

Ignatz

--I believe the rest was "...bad as the Wisconsin police who follow union orders."

DoT, ignore the noise and cower under here with me.--

Cleo's son is probably parachuting into Tripoli as we speak, unless of course his son is just the result of some gran mal delusion.

Danube of Thought

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

Nothing in the constitution denies him the authority to authorize an attack when and as he sees fit. Any president who understands the constitution to give him that authority, and there is no remedy other than impeachment or the next election.

Ignatz

--Michael t Moore is exploding.--

Yield; one megaton.
Extreme hazard of idiotizing radioactive fallout.

Danube of Thought

I should have added that, as we know, Barack Obama doesn't understand the constitution to give him that authority. Or he didn't used to; he seems to have "grown" in office.

PD

idiotizing

Had to read that one twice.

PD

9PM in Iowa, no moon.

I see a dim glow off in the distance; perhaps it's hidden behind dense ethanol fumes?

narciso

Like I mentioned earlier, the preening clue
lessness of all those at the table, making
this decision, instills no confidence. pointing out Moore's idiocy, is like shooting
at womprats with a T-16, not really sporting.

Maybe they should have asked the person who actually made the no fly proposal, how it should have been handled, in the LUN

Rocco

Congratulations to Arizona State's 125 lb Division 1 wrestler and National Champion, Anthony Robles. Anthony only has one leg!

Ignatz

--9PM in Iowa, no moon.--

7:46PM in CA, no moon, lots of snow and clouds.

Rick Ballard

Libyan TV is reporting 48 civilian casualties, including women and children (via Italian newspapers). Daffy's compound in Tripoli is reportedly under aerial surveillance.

Do the 48 count as the first grim milestone of Bammie's Excellent Adventure or do we have to wait until 1,000 are dead?

clarice

Don't ask me,rick. I'm in the middle of knitting by request a t-rex dinosaur which, thank God, is not life sized.

clarice

Who is left to root for him?

FARRAKHAN: "I warn my brother do you let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world...Why don't you organize a group of respected Americans and ask for a meeting with Qaddafi, you can't order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are?

PD

Still no moon, but Bucky won.

PD

She cooks, she knits, she writes Pieces. Is there ANYTHING she cannot do?

clarice

She can't tell time,never knows the date, messes up the checkbook,cannot drive well, use a sewing machine..or do anything practical..Not too bad in emergencies though..

scott

I spent a few days with some SOCOM cats last month. Very impressive young men, all inked up riding HD's w/ ape hangers and such. I'm guessing some of them may be on the ground near Tripoli doing a little surveilling as I write. At the first site of an umbrella, one clean shot would save alot of trouble and Tomahawks.

clarice

bgates is on a roll today..Insty picked up the longer post we all loved so much.

Frau Atomkraft

clarice, here's an alligator for you to knit. I made the green one for a granddaughter.

Frau Atomkraft

Happy anniversary, Sara. If you can see the moon out Temecula way, watch it for those us us under cloudy, rainy skies. I've been out often and there's no moon a-tall.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Frau: I was coming back from the store about 8 pm and could see it through the clouds but it wasn't bright like a normal full moon. I went out front about an hour later and couldn't see it all for a few minutes and then it sort of came out from behind the clouds, which seem quite wispy tonight.

memomachine

Hmmmm.

@ bgates

"What I like about Obama"

Oh snap!

Blacque Jacques Shellacque

it was completely irresponsible to commit the military to an expensive mission when the President's fiscal mismanagement had resulted in a budget deficit of over $150 billion in 2002.

Bwaaahahahaahahahaaa! A one hundred-fifty billion dollar budget deficit.

Those were the days, eh?

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Congratulations to Arizona State's 125 lb Division 1 wrestler and National Champion, Anthony Robles. Anthony only has one leg!

And he won outstanding wrestler of the tournament, Rocco. Penn State won its first team championship since 1953 -- which was the last time a team east of the Mississippi won.

My alma mater, Lehigh took 8th place. Pretty good for a school with a male student body of less than 3,000.

Wesley Barrios

That looks like a man who just took a bong hit.

Steve

Doesn't look too healthy? He's just reflecting the state of the economy.

daddy

Yay,

BGATE's is headlining at Instapundit. Woo Hoo!

Recognition well deserved. Great job.

Melinda Romanoff

daddy-

Thanks for the India/Japan offload info, it gave me a great indicator as to demand capabilities with regard to Japanese manufacturing.

Very informative, not tradeable, but informative.

(Typing in the dark at the edge of the Arizona Biltmore golf course, not as a resident, just getting away from internal noises from in-laws who live nearby.

Crap, sprinklers.

G'night.

KLH

Bgates that was absolute poetry.

glasater

Wouldn't the moon be approximately 20k closer to the earth?
This is what I was trying to shoot the evening.
Moon 20k_3892

Erik

"Well, I'm surprised the French got there that fast. "
France still has, unless I'm very mistaken, a military presence in Chad. Which borders to Libya.

bgates

Thanks, guys.

I'm just glad that Chelsea Clinton had left her management consulting job in time to complete her naval aviator training so her mother could send her to war. If there is one thing I cannot abide, it's an administration that doesn't send any of its own daughters into combat.

Cecil Turner

France still has, unless I'm very mistaken, a military presence in Chad. Which borders to Libya.

Not really the issue. You could fly a fighter there from anywhere in Europe in a couple of hours . . . it's getting the jamming, inflight refueling, airborne command and control etc. set up that takes time. And I seriously doubt that stuff was marking time in Chad.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Does anyone know the cost of those 112 Tomahawks?

Allan E.

What do you expect from a crack addict?

Janet

At the first site of an umbrella, one clean shot would save alot of trouble and Tomahawks.

LOL scott!

SWarren


Ann:

Yeah, she ain't the girl from Ipanema is she?

LOL!! Hilarious, Ann.

Rocco

Jim

I guess I changed the channel a little too quickly, I thought for sure Burroughs the 165 lb'er from Nebraska was a lock for OW. What an amazing accomplishment for Robles. I was rooting for the two Lehigh wrestlers, Hamlin's from New England and the Hvy, Rey is a beast! I was also rooting for Fendone, the 197 from Edinboro. He didn't make the finals but he's a local lad who's taught my son a thing or two at Baumgartner's camp.

Rick Ballard

"it's getting the jamming, inflight refueling, airborne command and control etc. set up that takes time."

It's almost as if planning for BOzo's War (as a contingency for the failure of the military coup) had been underway for some time. I wonder who is actually in control? If a French ace takes out an elementary school by accident, can he blame the American controller for bad directions?

Rocco

The chickens have come home to roost. Sadaafy calls him his son and Farrakhan calls him his brother!

Extraneus
"We're not going to baby sit a civil war."

Barack Obama quote spoken on NBC's Today Show on January 11, 2007

Sara (Pal2Pal)

"it's getting the jamming, inflight refueling, airborne command and control etc. set up that takes time."

Our stealth bombers have flown from and back to the US already and dropped a whole bunch of bombs in between. Sounds like we're airborne and have the refueling in place. According to this morning's news, we are playing traffic cop in the sky, pinpointing targets, directing traffic, providing intelligence, etc. The Tomahawk number is now 114, some British, but mostly ours. And our Marine Harriers are ready to go. I can't remember if they said today or within the next couple of days.

When asked how he felt to not be leading for the first time in most of our lives, Col. Peters laughed. His answer was something like, of course we're in the lead citing the traffic copy scenario above.

I have mixed emotions about this military action. I want Daffy out as much as everyone else and I wouldn't shed a tear if one of those missiles or bombs dropped on his and his son's heads, but I have no confidence in our commander-in-chief, and my experience with dems trying to deal with war is less than stellar. They have a habit of getting us into war and then running away and leaving it to the Republicans to clean up the mess and take all the heat politically. Is O-bomb-a more worried about 2012 and his dwindling base and having Farrakhan dressing him down, or does he have America's best interests front and center. Will he be listening to the likes of Code Pink or we he listen to his generals and Colonels. Does he have a real plan or was he just in a hurry to go for the symbolism of a mini shock and awe and the anniversary of the bombing of Iraq and start of the Iraq war. It makes me mad that I even have these thoughts, but with this president you never know what is real and what is his own carefully crafted image of himself.

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

When I read this above, I was not aware that it is actually a Barack O-bomb-a quote from a few years ago in reference to something Bush was doing. The only response is, "What a hypocrite!"

The dems use every dirty trick in the book to win and gain power, but for some reason they aren't getting that everything is now available to anyone interested with just a few clicks of the mouse and the days of talking out of both sides of their lying mouths is over. Someone will find the old transcript or an audio or video clip and publicize it even if the MSM has no interest. This new world has been around long enough, but these politicians still seem to think they speak in a vacuum.

Rick Ballard

The Independent answers my question:

Who is in charge?

Operation Odyssey Dawn is under the command of US Army General Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command. US Admiral Samuel Locklear is expected to take overall command. The admiral, who is based in Naples, is a commander with both the US Navy and Nato. The Allied Forces Southern Europe HQ in Naples is expected to be the operational hub for the no-fly zone, and Nato planners were tasked with producing a military strategy for the operation.

It's good to know who's going to pay the bill for this outrageous power grab humanitarian masterpiece.

Rick Ballard

The Independent answers my question:

Who is in charge?

Operation Odyssey Dawn is under the command of US Army General Carter Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command. US Admiral Samuel Locklear is expected to take overall command. The admiral, who is based in Naples, is a commander with both the US Navy and Nato. The Allied Forces Southern Europe HQ in Naples is expected to be the operational hub for the no-fly zone, and Nato planners were tasked with producing a military strategy for the operation.

It's good to know who's going to pay the bill for this outrageous power grab humanitarian masterpiece.

Rick Ballard

Boy, this is confusing:

The mission to impose a United Nations-sanctioned no-fly zone was portrayed by Pentagon and NATO officials as under French and British leadership.

Doesn't the NYT read the Independent? I wish I could read French - they probably assign responsibility to the British.

La Repubblica has a nice Highway of Death montage. Good thing Powell isn't running things.

MaryD

glasater, where was the picture taken? It's beautiful!

OldTimer

A United Nations concept called "responsibility to protect," or R2P, may be the tool Samantha Power used to prod Barry to "protect civilians" in Libya. It's simple to surmise that in the hands of Jew-despising lefties, RCP bodes ill if used against Israel. Lord have mercy and save us from the "enlightened thought" of social progressives. What a ruin they have made of everything they touch or attempt to touch.

Ed Lasky, American Thinker writes:

"Power's promotion of the R2P concept is not a surprise. Barack Obama's adoption of the same concept should be cause for concern. A Pandora's Box may have just been opened. Power's emergence as a key player, and her influence over the President, who already is inclined to outsource American foreign policy to the "international community," should heighten this concern.

Just one more reason to try to keep track of the role and influence that Samantha Power has in the Oval Office. If Hillary Clinton decides to resign as Secretary of State (she has already declared she will not serve in a second term) there will be a reshuffling of positions of power (Susan Rice, Samantha Power, etc) and there is no telling who may end up moving closer to the center of power.

The full AT article with updates and excerpts from John Podhoretz is LUN

centralcal

OldTimer: thanks, I think, for that link. Pretty disturbing.

What do we do to help those rebelling in Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, etc. etc. etc.? Well, that question was poorly phrased - I guess I mean where does it end? That is before even considering that this policy could be turned against Israelis in support of Palestinians.

Ranger

It may all be for naught anyways (the WaPo via The Corner):

Qaddafi Forces Enter Benghazi

TRIPOLI, LIBYA — Forces loyal to Moammar Gaddafi entered the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi Saturday after shelling and fierce fighting, a fresh act of defiance even as the United States and its allies prepared to launch military attacks on Libya.v

Government troops in tanks and trucks entered Benghazi from the west, in the university area, and began to shell the city, including civilian areas. Intense fighting broke out in some enclaves. The city of 1 million quickly became a ghost town, with residents fleeing or seeking cover in barricaded neighborhoods.

I really don't see how Obama recovers from this one.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Ranger: Rick Leventhal was just reporting from Benghazi at the location where all those tanks were taken out during yesterday and last night. They are all bombed out and mangled and the rebels are celebrating that they finally got the air cover they've been begging for.

BTW, Leventhal did the best job reporting of any of the embeds during the original drive into Iraq and it looks like he's put himself right on the front lines again. He was close enough during the overnight bombings that he could feel the ground shake.

Those tanks all smoking and smoldering make a great backdrop.

glasater

Good morning MaryD and thanks for your kind words. I took the photo from a hill in a wheat field that has a nice view of our city of Walla Walla WA. The mountains in the image are called the Blue Mountains for obvious reasons:) This valley is famous for having Lewis and Clark wander through.

As to the missiles lobbed into Libya cost--someone on twitter mentioned each one was about 60k each.

Ranger

Those tanks all smoking and smoldering make a great backdrop.

Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | March 20, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Finally, some good news on the situation!

I've been visiting friends since Friday afternoon with little news access. From what I was reading, it looked like all we were doing was air defense supression and hiting some bases in Tripoli. I was starting to get the feeling that Gadaffi would have Benghazi over run by the time we actually got around to hitting is ground forces.

Ranger

The blank check nature of the UN resolution is starting to sink in with people:

The Pentagon tells NBC that their interpretation of the mandate is that they need to protect civilians, an interpretation that would leave practically no option off the table.

And so much for leaving the heavy lifting to the Brits and the French:

One piece of news might raise eyebrows — the US has sent fighter jets from Sicily to attack Gaddafi’s ground forces around Benghazi

Unfortunately, I have to agree with this assesment:

Now, the Libyan position is so advanced that Gaddafi can likely abandon his armor in the city and reduce the rebels to destruction. It will just take a little longer.

Killing tanks from the air is fairly easy for us these days. But it still takes an infantryman to dig another infantryman out of their positions.

The rebels may still pull this off, but if they do, it will probably be a "long, hard slog" for them now to get all the way back to Tripoli, then actually take the city.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Ranger: What blew my mind this morning was hearing that our stealth bombers flew from their base in Missouri all the way to Lybia, dumped 40 bombs on strategic centers in Tripoli and took out the air fields and radar, etc. And then flew all the way back to their home base, while we were all sleeping. Between the now 114 Tomahawk cruise missiles, the stealth bombers and their 40 big big bombs and the air cover/support over toward Benghazi, it sounds to me like this is not just a quickie off the shelf action. Also, I think it laughable to think the French are in charge and we are taking a backseat on this. We are doing what we do best and as to Yemen and Bahrain or any others with any ideas of causing trouble beyond the protest square, this is exactly what they need ... a good refresher course on American fire power and a whole load of "oh sh!t" thrown in for good measure. One thing the Middle East respects is power and a few cruise missiles and 500 lbs bombs can cause alot of "oh sh!t" moments all over the Middle East.

And since the Middle East puts great significance on dates and anniversaries, starting this mini show of shock and awe on the anniversary of the start of the Iraq war and that shock and awe won't go unnoticed around the region which is another reminder for them not to get any big ideas.

Of course, as all cowardly bullies do, Daffy is surrounding himself and his compounds with human shields.

daddy

Concerning the Big Moon, here's a few interesting links from the Astronomy Picture of the Day archives you may enjoy:

1) Apogee/Perigee

2) Lunation

3) Last Night's full Moon over the Parthenon

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Well, they just answered my question on TV of how much the Tomahawks cost. They are $600,000 each.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Daddy: I like this picture, which I saw on the news this morning and found in Google images.

image

Sara (Pal2Pal)

And this one is breathtaking.

image

glasater

They are $600,000 each

Oops! Missed a zero in there. Remember thinking that the first Tomahawk strike cost over half a billion dollars.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

glasater: You are right about "the strike" itself. They went on to say that millions are involved, but that was the price for just the missile.

scott

I beleive the buys in the 90's were somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.2M /ea. This is my memory from a class I took in 2001.

glasater

As far as photographing the moon is concerned it's a tricky business at best. The contrast of light and dark while fairly easy for a human eye to discern--a camera sensor (or in the "olden" days-film) cannot easily make that distinction.
I've photographed eclipses a few times and each time it is a different set of problems to overcome.
I think there was a lot of cloud cover across the country in general so it wasn't possible to get a very good view of the actual moonrise which is the most impressive part of the Super Moon. But even when it was pretty high in the sky--the size of the moon was noticeably larger.
I was impressed with the color on the clouds from the reflected light.
Super Moon 3.19.11

Wish I had started studying photography a long time ago. Astrophotography is fascinating with much to learn.

centralcal

Beautiful photo, glasater!

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Back sometime during my secondary school years, we learned that it takes a war to get a country out of a depression. I can visualize my history teacher saying that the quick gear up to a wartime manufacturing level just about single-handedly brought America back from the brink and ended those pesky high unemployment figures. If this is even somewhat true, could we see a silver-lining to this latest action in Libya. It doesn't appear to be working with Afghanistan.

glasater

Thanks so much centralcal:) So much to learn!!

Since this thread seems to be winding down some I wanted to add this link that to me is just incredible. It's of a two year old operating an iPad. Sure hope all our iPad users can check it out.

And is anyone watching '0's' speech in Brazil feeling as embarrassed for him as I am? Even CNN is cutting away.

daddy

Cool shots Sara and glasater,

Speaking of the Big Moon and moonlight:

We left Japan at about 10:30 PM local time from Narita on the night of the Big Moon. It was clear as a bell that night and the moon was hugh and beautiful, and it really allowed you to see the usually invisible nighttime surface below exceptionally well. No overcast or undercast from the surface to altitude.

We were heading northeast, coming back home, but they kept us initially on a heading a bit further east over the ocean than normal before turning us north east up the coast, I believe to ensure we would be well clear of the no fly radius around the plant. What I thought interesting was the almost total evidence of any artificial lights all along that stretch of Japan from the big Bay of Tokyo north.

Tokyo from the air at nighttime is an amazing sight, just a gorgeous view stretching out in a huge, beautiful grid around the blackness of Tokyo Bay. (We're not near as high as this pic shows but it gives an idea) This night the Bay was behind us to our left, but I could see the glow well on climbout. But not far north of Tokyo, even though with the moonlight I could easily see the coastline and northern part of Honshu, there just weren't any lights at all. Not surprising what's just happened, but just thought I'd mention it.

It's also worth noting that many times you see the lights of the huge Japanese fishing fleets from altitude at night, looking exactly like cities below, but on this night I saw none of that. Would be interested if anyone knows how their fishing fleets weathered the many earthquakes and the Tsunami, and if they are out in force back at work. My guess is they aren't.

MaryD

Glasater, thanks so much for the information about where you took the picture. I sent both to about ten people; they are swooning over the picture and delighted to get the background information.

clarice

glasater's photos really are remarkable.

glasater

Thanks for the kinds words everyone! So much to learn and time is growing shorter:)

For me the creativity of truly great photographers to observe is a wonderful education.

clarice

Michael Ledeen says the Syrian upheaval is more substantial than reported,agrees with me that it's more significant than the Libyan situation and offers up a link to the rebels where you can get up to the date info on what's up--latest reports tens of thousands marching against Assad (aka Iran)
On the march in Syria

clarice

Better link to the reform party of Syria:http://reformsyria.org/latest/syrians-are-on-the-move-75

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