I Want To Hold Your Hand

Tom Brokaw says the Saudi rulers don't like the way Obama dumped Mubarak so they are looking for friends in China and Russia.  Geez, all of Obama's bowing goes for naught.

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[clarice]

Abdullah has poor eyesight I understand and the hand holding was a courtesy.

w is nothing if not a courteous man.

[Ignatz]

--Geez, all of Obama's bowing goes for naught.--

Even his bows come with expiration dates.
He can't even be convincingly obsequious.

[maryrose]

Obama's smart diplomacy at work- NOT

[matt]

Fourth!!

[Melinda Romanoff]

No, it reduces the primacy of the US to "other", which was his goal in the first place.

[MarkO]

Petulant twerp on TV. Makes me sick. Sicker than LBJ. Sicker than Nixon. Sicker than cherry vodka.

[Captain Hate]

Thanks again 52%

[MarkO]

When first I read TM's post, I thought it referenced Obama's bowling. Same thing.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

In addition to being petulant, the big o is also smarmy.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

Haven't seen Biden on the stump. Hmmmmm.

[Porchlight]

Tom Brokaw says the Saudi rulers don't like the way Obama dumped Mubarak so they are looking for friends in China and Russia.

What a shock. It turns out people pay attention when you dump longtime allies - however problematic they may be - and draw the appropriate conclusions.

Isn't this Foreign Policy 101? Wasn't this dumbass an international relations major or something?

[clarice]

Maybe that was his twin, porch.

[maryrose]

Obama is a walking foreign relations disater.Well known secret-he's soft on terrorism.

[maryrose]

should bre disaster. On tv just now trying to use a sob story about retired guy needing his tax refund check. Tell your democrat homeboys to pass a budget deal.

[Dave (in MA)]

Oh, well.

At least he still has his pen pal Moammar.

[Danube of Thought]

But hey, that Cairo speech really wowed 'em.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Wisconsin City Caught Destroying Ballots

If true, this doesn't sound good.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Oops wrong thread. Oh well.

[Neo]

Just in time for the end times ...

However, the disease seems to be highly contagious and can spread by contact via any bodily fluid—through kissing, shared utensils, sweat, and even protected sex. Once infected, the immune system appears to be attacked, which results in a decrease of white blood cells and the body’s ability to defend against infectious disease and foreign materials.

In the past, official health agencies have only conducted HIV tests on these patients and have not checked for other, similarly pathological viruses. With HIV results coming up negative, many patients then stopped taking protective measures with their relatives. Subsequently, all their relatives and friends were infected, many have said.

China has a new AIDS-like disease that is more contagious

[TvTRopOlIS]

This has been known for a long time.O was elected for giving away 100s of billions in foreign aid.Why would CIa agenda be different,Plame was eg failure unlike Powers and the Afghan legacy agents.Change the laws and get women running shit.Oil will take care of itself.Theyre so stupid they think twitter and facebook revolutioned them.Social media for oil.

[sbw]

Why is this a thread?

There is little difference between "Tom Brokaw says," "Geraldo says," "Katie Couric says," "Bob Schieffer says," "Charles Gibson says," and "Diane Sawyer says."

[narciso]

Maybe Brokaw has figured out along with Obama's about, it only took them two and a half years, I know I'm being hypothetical.

[narciso]

It's a dead heat, to see who's more oblivious,

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/04/gaddafi-to-baraka-hussein-abu-oumama-stop-the-bombings-and-good-luck-in-the-elections/

[hit and run]

“So we’ve agreed to a compromise, but somehow we still don’t have a deal, because some folks are trying to inject politics in what should be a simple debate about how to pay our bills,”
--stuff Obama said at a ...wait for it... campaign rally

A campaign rally is the very definition of politics in the manner Obama is using the term. And whining that "some folks are trying to inject politics" into the discussion is the very definition of injecting politics into the discussion.

This is the same as Obama's 2008 campaign against cynicism. It was the very definition of cynicism for Obama to claim that everyone but himself was cynical.

Obama 2012
Ecclesiastes 1:9!

[Extraneus]

That Ann Barnhardt video was the greatest thing I've seen in years. Brains and balls, just like she said.

[squaredance]

All a part of the plan. You all still think that he and his handlers are not out to destroy American power? Still think that the Democrats are not on the take of our mortal enemies.

They may well succeed, but it they do not it will take more than a decade to reverse this. They know this well and so press on.

Just a handful of years ago we were an unparalleled power. Soon we will be at the level of peer competitors with China and Russia (that's right. Russia). This is no accident.

Still think that there is not a conspiracy to take us down?

The highest of treason and they throw it right in our faces. The American people are so foolish as to not even whimper about it. Has history ever seen such broad betrayal by a nation's own elites?

Wait until Oil is no longer priced in Dollars.

What a foolish people we have become.

[BR]

Libya is Obama's Waterloo.

Article of Impeachment delivered to Congress.

15 pages. If you don't have time to read it all and if you already know the historical background, keep reading at #31 again.

"If we're going to be a government of laws, and not descend into empire, this is Caesar crossing the Rubicon." [Bruce Fein, lawyer, author of the Article of Impeachment]

[centralcal]

oh dear, got my tabs mixed up and posted the following on the wrong thread!

Good morning. Before turning in last night, I followed Clarice's link to Ann Barhardt. Wow. All the brave and courageously truthful outspoken conservatives these days seem to be women.

[clarice]

For as long as I can recall Bruce Fein has been working on articles of impeachment for every president.

[Danube of Thought]

Where is the Ann Barnhardt link?

[centralcal]

Here you go, DoT - Ann Barnhardt.

[boris]

Ann Barnhardt link

[centralcal]

I am so loving Donald Trump. . . especially if he truly does have investigators searching out the truth about Obama.

[daddy]

Just some points on tough women in history from off the top of my currently inebriated head.

I'll let the better educated Biblical's among us speak of the strength of individual Jewish women and early Christian Martyr women, but...

At the battle of Salamis (480 BC) according to Herodotus, the toughest Admiral Xerxes had was a female (I forget her name at the moment).

According to Procopius and other texts, the person with the real balls behind Emperor Justinian was his wife Theodora. When he wanted to flee during the huge Blue/Green riots, she is the one who said she refused to flee, and forced him to stand and be tough (and slaughter 40,000 rioters!)

In early Founding of Rome history I recall vaguely it is the suicide courageous public suicide (dagger in the heart) of a famous Roman daughter (again, I forget her name---possibly Claudia) that propels the menfolk to get off their butts and avenge her degradation at the hands of the Tarquin Kings.

Cleopatra
Joan of Arc
Queen Elizabeth
Maggie Thatcher

Anyhow, am mentally tired, but would enjoy when I wake up seeing if other JOMer's can recall many more incidents of tough, ballsy women being motivational in history.

Might be worth a thread of its own, but if not, lets use this Brokaw thread, since he's a useless weasel who made millions writing a book about how the Greatest Generation did what they had to do at the time it had to be done, yet he sat on his ass when questions needed to be asked of officials in power (Clinton especially) so IMHO, screw Brokaw.

"Charlie ROSE: I don't know what Barack Obama's worldview is.

BROKAW: No, I don't, either.

ROSE: I don't know how he really sees where China is.

BROKAW: We don't know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy.

ROSE: I don't really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising him?

BROKAW: Yeah, it's an interesting question.

ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very aspirational (sic) speeches.

BROKAW: Two of them! I don't know what books he's read.

ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama?

BROKAW: There's a lot about him we don't know."

BTW, this am it's a decent imported Bordeaux, "La Croix D'Austeran" (2008). (I imported it about 3 hours ago:)

[DebinNC]

Newsmax quotes Trump on Morning Joe today:

[After reminding folks Obama has never produced his birth certificate and saying Obama deserves blame for any gov shutdown, Trump moves to the economy/oil...]

"Trump stressed, however, that the nation’s economic crisis — and the fact China “is ripping off the United States” and the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries and other foreign nations are taking advantage of America is “disgraceful” — are his main issues....“What OPEC is doing to our country is unbelievable and disgraceful, There’s so much oil . . . there ships all over the sea with so much oil, and they don’t know where to dump it, ” Trump said, adding he is amazed he has heard analysts say they can’t understand why the price of oil is skyrocketing....“The only thing they didn’t mention as the cause that oil is up to $108 a barrel — is OPEC.”

The msm seem to be giving Trump a pass, thinking he hurts Republicans, but I'm not so sure. Trump is the only one I can think of who can effectively call BS on Obama at the moment. I hope he emboldens others to do likewise, because something in Obama's warped psyche renders him incapable of ignoring criticism, especially from a plain-speaking rich, white male media star whose comments resonate with average voters.

[Danube of Thought]

I just think Trump is a buffoon, an ignoramus and a sideshow. Definitely not un homme serieux.

[Cecil Turner]

No worse friend . . . no better enemy.

[clarice]

So true, DoT. Should he actually run, the first thing his opponents will note is his many marriages and business bankruptcies..But the media take him seriously so maybe they will force viewers and themselves to pay attention to O's sketchy background and fabulist life tales.

[anduril]

Hmmmmm. The NH Tea Party/GOP has declared war on the Catholic Church: GOP Rep to target Catholic Church tax status. While I don't agree with the Bishop there, I think this is a Very Bad Idea from a political standpoint.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

I love the role Trump is playing.

To follow up on what we were talking about yesterday - the alleged molester from Scott brown's camp who killed himself was not Brown's molester. He is younger than Brown.

[Rick Ballard]

The fact that so many Americans believe that Obama will not prove that he was born in the United States is very real and almost serious. It is certainly reasonable to expend a measure of examination of the reason for the widespread belief that the President was not born in the US that is commensurate with the serious nature of the accusation.

I agree with Jane. Trump is to be commended for keeping the issue on a front burner and his examination of the President's responsibility for high gas prices is also commendable.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

I also like his positions on Opec and China. I certainly do not expect him to get the nomination, but I have no problem with him rallying the troops.

[Old Lurker]

Trump is as DoT suggests.

But he has a megaphone and is unafraid to use it so that is fun as long as it lasts.

In these days of our side (not the other) being unwilling to shout the truth about opponents and their plans for us, I do enjoy a kick-ass business guy applying to politics the tools required to construct anything in NYC. Say what you will (and it will be true probably), he has dealt with some of the most difficult of players in his various endeavors, and like I said...it is fun to watch.

[centralcal]

I love the role Trump is playing.

Me too, Jane. I don't take him seriously as a candidate. But he hobnobs with these media buffoons and they with him. When he goes on their shows and says what many in middle America are thinking, he gets away with it. I hope he keeps going and going on these shows and I really do hope he has investigators out doing the job his media friends never will do.

[Extraneus]

Trump doesn't have to be a serious contender to wound Obama. It might even better that he's not. Go Trump!

[MarkO]

What I remember most about Trump is his appearance with his girlfriend where he said “The sex is incredible.”

I do find refreshing his willingness to speak to Obama in unvarnished terms. Someone will have to do it. I’m not certain a serious GOP candidate can do that, but someone has to take the role. Besides, it’s amusing.

[Jane (sit on the couch or save your country)]

Ya gotta love this:

Washington (CNN) – Self-proclaimed birther Donald Trump is now so doubtful of President Obama's birthplace that he's sent a team of his own investigators to Hawaii in hopes of getting to the bottom of the issue.

That's according to Trump himself, who, in an interview with NBC, warned his investigators just might uncover "one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond."

"I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump said an interview that aired Thursday Morning.

Asked if he has assigned people specifically to search in Hawaii, Trump said, "Absolutely."

The business mogul, who in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll is tied for second place among potential presidential candidates, also suggested the president is involved in an ongoing cover-up over the matter.

"He spent $2 million in legal fees trying on to get away from this issue, and if it weren't an issue, why wouldn't he just solve it?" he said. "I wish he would because if he doesn't, it's one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and in the history, period. You are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts."

[clarice]

New earthquake and tsunami warnings in Japan.Magnitude 7.4 - NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

[daddy]

I'm for Trump trumpeting this at this time.

Ask yourself this; Is this question of the birth Certificate worth asking?

If no, then feel free to damn Trump.

But if yes, then when is the time, and who is the person to ask the question?

Do you want Sarah Palin or Bachman asking it? How about Romney? Or Newt? Or Ryan? Or Christie or Pawlenty? Fact is, I can't think of anybody better placed to ask the question and doggedly pursue an answer than Trump. The others would all get savaged just bringing up the topic.

We know the MSM is never going to ask it honestly.
We know the Administration and the MSM are using this point as an opportunity to whack Conservatives as conspiracy whack-jobs for political gain.

So that being evident, when would one expect the "respectable Republican's" the Lindsey Graham's or John McCain's or David Brook's of the world to ask the question?" The answer is never.

So again if asking the question is wrong then damn Trump.

But if asking the question is important, then bless Trump for asking it. Who better, 2 years out from an election, to ask it on National TV, than a semi-buffonish, multi-millionaire, semi-media darling Donald Trump. He's the perfect guy to ask the question and this is the perfect time, well before the election, for a big money bags guy with the financial heft and hutzpah to go after the question in front of an obviously reticent MSM and a malleable, uninformed public. Way to go Donald. To me this is like Geraldo standing in front of Al Capone's vault.

If you fail and become a laughing stock, no big deal Trump, because you aren't identified with the Repub/Conservative powerfolks.

But if you find something of consequence in your investigation---ah, there's the rub. Yet we still have 18 months to deal with what you find.

[daddy]

Crud, Just saw that Clarice. 7.4. Ughh.

Japan back on the front burner.

[daddy]

Look at LUN under my name. Two 7.4's in the last 40 minutes. Ughh.

[Janet]

Here is the video of Obama with the 8 mpg remark.
About the 2 min. mark he does the laughing jiveass routine. The think about a new car remark is at the end. 4 minutes of sickening in all.

[Janet]

...btw, GO TRUMP!!!!

[daddy]

The USG LUN under my name has revised it to just one 7.4 earthquake. At least that's something positive.

[daddy]

Interesting.

FOX News talking to a USGS official saying that in the last few minutes they have said that though they did initially report 2 quakes, their instruments now indicate that there was only quake, and that they consider it an Aftershock of the main 9.0 quake of a month ago, and that this latest has been downgraded from 7.4 to 7.1.

My uninformed impression from the FOX interviewee is that this is less drastic than initial reports indicated it might be. Fukushima reports no significant damage according to FOX. Hope so.

[MarkO]

Obama would pull a D- in a high school econ class with that analysis of the the rise of oil prices. It is difficult to watch that inane lecture and come away thinking he is even an average thinker.

[daddy]

"Obama would pull a D- in a high school econ class"

Marko I am with you, but here's someone who is not:

"the reason I voted for Obama in 2008 is because I trust his judgment. And not in any merely abstract way, either: I mean that if he and I were in a room and disagreed about some issue on which I had any doubt at all, I’d literally trust his judgment over my own. I think he’s smarter than me, better informed, better able to understand the consequences of his actions, and more farsighted. I voted for him because I trust him, and I still do." Kevin Drum.

[BobDenver]

I just think Trump is a buffoon, an ignoramus and a sideshow. Definitely not un homme serieux.

I agree. But, with all that, he would be an improvement over Obama.

[Rob Crawford]

daddy, that Kevin Drum quote reminds me that the left does not elect men to offices; they elect gods.

[Janet]

From Jane's 10:43 link -
"In 2008, the Obama campaign produced a certification of live birth that reports his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii – a document the Hawaii government says is official evidence of his birth in the state. Among other evidence of Obama's birth there is the fact the hospital where he was born took out ads in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 announcing the birth, while current Gov. Neil Abercrombie says he knew Obama's family and remembers his birth."

* the certification does NOT prove he was born in Hawaii. It shows that Hawaii has some documents on file about his birth - either a long form hospital certificate or some affidavits.
* the hospitals did not take out the ads.

[Ignatz]

--Why is this a thread?

There is little difference between "Tom Brokaw says," "Geraldo says," "Katie Couric says," "Bob Schieffer says," "Charles Gibson says," and "Diane Sawyer says."--

or "Andrew Sullivan says," or "Paul Krugman says," or "David Brooks says," or "the NYT says."
You're proposing TM shut down his blog?

[daddy]

Rob C,

That Kevin Drum comment is disgraceful isn't it. He self neutered himself right there.

[Rob Crawford]

He had nothing to neuter.

[Extraneus]

Kevin Drum and anyone else who thinks Obama is smart should watch the video that Janet linked.

But of course, they've all watched his asinine faux-negro-accent ad-libs, and they know what a doofus he is. They just say he's smart to get over on other people.

[Yo Mama had Ten Kids.]

Janet @ 11:05 AM

Obama conflated reserves with production at one point, either ignorantly or disingenously.
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[Janet]

Trump, the Today Show interview.

I like how he credits the Tea Parties with bringing the out of control spending to the front. The Tea Parties have done a great service....

[Ignatz]

Very funny take on a proposed new CPI measure of only those goods and services that go neither up nor down.
Be sure to check out the link to the related article on the value of SAAP (Seldom Accepted Accounting Principles)

[Sweet, syrupy, mmmm, mmmm, good.]

The story of my life; SAAP for the sap.
=================

[clarice]

The Hill:

President Obama's approval rating has taken a hit in the battleground state of Florida, down to just 44 percent, according to a new poll out Thursday from Quinnipiac University, and a majority of voters in the state don't think he deserves reelection in 2012. The poll found 52 percent of respondents disapprove of the job the president is doing and another 51 percent say Obama does not deserve a second term. Obama is in a dead heat with an unnamed Republican challenger in the state,

[Sue]

Obama's high school friend, Bobby Titcomb, was arrested for solicitation of a prostitute. Rush is teasing they aren't telling us which gender, but the papers in HI are saying it was a female escort service. Still funny. Pictures of Obama and Titcomb playing golf are everywhere. He also went with Obama to scatter his grandmother's ashes. Oh, he calls the president "Barry", not Barack.

[Ignatz]

--Obama's high school friend, Bobby Titcomb, was arrested for solicitation of a prostitute.--

Do HI prostitutes have hair on their chests?

--Oh, he calls the president "Barry", not Barack.--

Hey, me too.
How come I didn't get to scatter her ashes?

[centralcal]

Jake Tapper tweeting that Obama says he will VETO GOP bill that would fund Gov for 1 week and Pentagon for 6 months.

[Sue]

Ig,

Rush was hinting that they did (have hair on their chests).

I just find it funny that the one person we know Obama was friends with in HS and still friends with calls him Barry. I'm sure they got high together back then. Think they still do?

[DebinNC]

FL is out and CO, NM, and NV are the new Obama must-wins..according to some pundit whose name I can't recall.

[Ignatz]

--Ig,

Rush was hinting that they did (have hair on their chests).--

Yeah, Sue, but I wasn't sure why he was saying it.
Mine was just a lame-o pun on "Titcomb".

[Sue]

LOL.

[Jack is Back!]

Trump us doing what the Repubs & McLame should have done in 08. Sometimes yiu need to start a fire to see who runs out of the house. Trump may not be a viable political leader but lets hope he flushes the bevy of "enigma birds" surroundong this guy. A public service long overdue.

daddy, very pedestrian Bourdeaux. Try to find a 2000 Vieux Chateau Certan from Pomerol, if you can. Its the property next to Petrus and its owned by the cousin who produces Le Pin and same winemaker, Alexander Thienpont, my B-I-L's brother.

[narciso]

I was trying to recall that exchange, daddy, in my last post, you forgot Boadicea, the queen of the Celts, in that pantheon of warrior women, btw, who is the author of that
Constantine bio, again.

[jimmyk]

Self-proclaimed birther Donald Trump is now so doubtful of President Obama's birthplace that he's sent a team of his own investigators to Hawaii in hopes of getting to the bottom of the issue.

It shouldn't be that hard to surreptitiously get some of Barry's DNA and figure out who his father is. (Not as easy as it would be with Clinton, who leaves his DNA all over the place.) Trump might need to bribe a waiter to grab a glass that he drank from or something. Similarly for FMD's offspring. That's going to be easier than trying to track down exactly where he was born.

[hit and run]

It shouldn't be that hard to surreptitiously get some of Barry's DNA and figure out who his father is.

Bathroom towel guy or beer cart girl at the golf course.

[Danube of Thought]

What's the date of that Drum quote?

[narciso]

Would you believe, April 1st, DoT, the only reason I don't doubt it, is it's no less farcical than anything else he's said.

[fdcol63]

I wonder why Obama just assumed the guy in the "8 mpg" incident owned an old gas guzzler?

What a jerk. Hope everyone who's suffering from higher fuel prices remembers this.

[macphisto]

Trump is the perfect person to raise the birth certificate issue...he's got too much money and is too prominent of a celebrity to be destroyed by the media, and the skeletons in his closet have all been interviewed on CNN over the years.

[DebinNC]

Obama claims his first new car, when it was just BO, MO, and baby Malia, was a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 13 mpg city.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Strong women:

I am a strong woman who has never bought into the feminist movement because I always preferred to be the "power behind the throne," so to speak.

There is a book, I don't recall the particulars, but the title is "The Underside of History," which I read many years ago and talks about those women of history who were the real influences behind the power.

[bgates]

How come I didn't get to scatter her ashes?

You didn't hold the pillow over her mouth.

[clarice]

HEH--bgates...........................................

[Jane]

That is such great news (Prosser).

[Jane]

Kevin Drum is a moron, if he really thinks that.

[narciso]

I came to that conclusion, when I tried to introduce some actual facts to the Plame discussion around 2004, on Calpundit

[jimmyk]

Bathroom towel guy or beer cart girl at the golf course.

Cigarette butts.

[Porchlight]

What a jerk. Hope everyone who's suffering from higher fuel prices remembers this.

I do too but since AP scrubbed their story I wonder if they're even hearing about it.

[Frau Steingehirn]

"Haven't seen Biden on the stump."
And I don't want to. The image is disturbing.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Will someone explain to me what the hangup is about friends using the Obama nickname Barry? TM has been hung up on this for more than a couple of years, now Sue. I don't get why this is any different than a Thomas being called Tom or Tommy, a Robert, Rob, Robby or Bob, Bobby, etc., etc.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

factcheck.org has removed the COLB that was the rock of so many.

[MarkO]

"Will someone explain to me what the hangup is about friends using the Obama nickname Barry?"

And, whatever you do, do NOT call his signature piece of legislation "Obamacare."

[maryrose]

Remember when we were all racists if we dared to utter his middle name Hussain?

[fdcol63]

Sara, it may seem like a small thing to harp on, but there is another element to it.

No one really seems to know when, exactly, Obama reverted back to the name Barack Hussein Obama from the one he used as a child, Barry Soetoro.

Was it back in Hawaii? Or when he went off to Occidental, etc.?

But it appears that his use of Barack was meant to convey that he didn't like the anglocized name of Barry and preferred the more ethnic name of Barack.

[jimmyk]

I'm not sure what "hangup" refers to here, but the difference is that there is suspicion that "Barry" may be on the birth certificate, so that "Barack" was a name change. So then it's more like a Thomas changing his name to Tamir, but then pretending that was his name at birth. People calling him Thomas would be exposing his duplicity.