Here is disgraceful and disturbing news from a reputedly peaceful provice in Afghanistan:
KABUL, Afghanistan — Thousands of demonstrators angered over the burning of a Koran in Florida mobbed offices of the United Nations in northern Afghanistan on Friday, overrunning the compound and killing at least seven foreign staff workers, according to Afghan officials.
There were conflicting reports on the total number of people killed and whether two of the victims had been beheaded. Five Afghans were also reported killed.
The incident began when thousands of protesters poured out of the Blue Mosque in Mazar-i-Sharif after Friday prayers and attacked the nearby headquarters of the United Nations, according to Lal Mohammad Ahmadzai, spokesman for Gen. Daoud Daoud, the Afghan National Police commander for northern Afghanistan.
The proposed Koran burning by Pastor Terry Jones last year got a lot of attention, but I had no idea an encore had been scheduled:
Mr. Ahmadzai, the police spokesman, said the demonstrators were angry about the burning of the Koran at the church of Pastor Terry Jones on Mar. 20. Mr. Jones had caused an international uproar by threatening to burn the Koran last year on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, and demonstrations at the time led to deaths throughout Afghanistan, but on a small scale. Mr. Jones subsequently had publicly promised not to burn a Koran, but then presided over a mock trial and the burning of the Koran at his small fringe church in Gainesville, Fla.
...Last year, even though Mr. Jones called off his burning of the Koran, a subsequent wave of protests at NATO facilities in Afghanistan led to at least five deaths. In several of those incidents, Taliban agitators played a role, allegedly spreading rumors that the Koran burning had taken place. However, the Taliban have had little or no presence in Mazar-i-Sharif, one of the most peaceful places in Afghanistan.
Some nobody that most people have never heard of burns a Koran and the local Afghans burn down a UN outpost. That certainly suggests they have not developed a reservoir of goodwill for the US or the UN over the past decade.
All together now for another chant of :
Religion of Peace.
Religion of Pieces, lots of them?
Posted by: Gmax | April 01, 2011 at 02:18 PM
Why are we playing nice with these killers?
Posted by: MarkO | April 01, 2011 at 02:24 PM
They are "well informed", just like liberals here in the US.
The problem is that they've been "well informed" with lies.
Posted by: fdcol63 | April 01, 2011 at 02:25 PM
We should pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and elsewhere.
Then create conditions so that "moderate" Muslims - if there are such people - police themselves and root out the jihadists and extremists among them.
Do this by making it very clear that if we suffer another attack from Muslims that we'll start targeting the major symbols of Islam itself.
First, we'll nuke Medina.
If they do it again, we'll nuke Mecca.
And if they continue, we'll nuke all the major Muslim capitals, starting with Tehran and Damascus.
Posted by: fdcol63 | April 01, 2011 at 02:31 PM
A variety of commentators have suggested that there is positive correlation between the ideological valence of legal scholarship and the intellectual capacity of the author. In their most common form, these suggestions posit an association between "progressive" or "left leaning" political views, and "IQ" or "intelligence." Recent developments in content analysis and the measurement of inellectual capacity now permit empirical testing of these claims.
The results do not confirm the standard hypothesis. Siegel-Spaeth ideology scores that indicate "progressive" ideology were negatively correlated with the Stanford-Benet estimates.
I will note that the first mistake here is that the intelliegence test is the "Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale." That aside, this would indicate that based on these law review articles, that progressives aren't more intelligent than others.
Posted by: Neo | April 01, 2011 at 02:48 PM
O/T Tammy Bruce is stealing what passes for souls of all the donk pols trying to earn points by acting as if they were sympatico to Geraldine Ferraro, aiming most of her barbs at an overly stuffed pantsuit.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 01, 2011 at 02:50 PM
Neo
To paraphrase the immortal Bob Seger "shit I've known that for 10 years!"
Posted by: Gmax | April 01, 2011 at 02:53 PM
It's just an excuse to kill with impunity. Their primal rage and resulting violence is always someone else's fault.
Posted by: Dianne | April 01, 2011 at 03:03 PM
Here was yesterday's story.
"
Bengladesh: Fourteen Year Old Girl Raped, Charged With Adultery, and Lashed to Death"
According to the American Thinker article, only 29 people cared enough to comment.
LUN
IMO, having the US women soldiers wear the Hijab is not going to stop this madness.
Posted by: pagar | April 01, 2011 at 03:32 PM
fdcol63 for president!
Posted by: Jane | April 01, 2011 at 03:39 PM
You will wait until the end of time before any infidels build a "reservoir of goodwill" among the Mahometans.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 03:40 PM
IMO, having the US women soldiers wear the Hijab is not going to stop this madness.
Wearing the hijab & burning Bibles just makes us dhimmi. We are admitting their religious/political system is superior by our actions.
Posted by: Janet | April 01, 2011 at 03:40 PM
I am afraid the current "War on Terror" will eventually come down to just this...
If they do it again, we'll nuke Mecca.
And if they continue, we'll nuke all the major Muslim capitals, starting with Tehran and Damascus.
Posted by: WarEagle82 | April 01, 2011 at 03:51 PM
I suspect the next terror attack by these lunatics is going to be awful.
And I suspect the retaliation by the citizens of the US after watching the government do nothing to prevent or deter such attacks will be equally terrible.
After that next attack, there will be very few Muslims remaining in America.
Note, I am not advocating it but I do think this is a very likely result of the next attack.
Posted by: Prophet | April 01, 2011 at 03:54 PM
What happened to Qom on this list?
Posted by: Jim,MtnViewCA,USA | April 01, 2011 at 03:55 PM
If it possible to have more than two faces, Captain, they would achieve it, they practically burned her at the stake, for telling the truth, I know what's new there.
Meanwhile, a really good piece that typifies
the fustercluck, we find ourselves in,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1372166/Libya-Gaddafis-fingernail-puller-chief-Musa-Kusa.html
Posted by: narciso | April 01, 2011 at 03:57 PM
OT and apparently not an April Fools joke-
LUN is the story on changes to the MCAT that should increase the diversity of the medical profession.
Of course it's on top of the quota system pushed via Obamacare.
Notice the comment later in the story that the new critical analysis will test info commonly taught in sociology and psych courses.
Good. Let's require coursetaking in that last bastion of traditional academics.
We are supposed to be postracial and these policies make stigma inevitable.
Posted by: rse | April 01, 2011 at 04:27 PM
fdcol63 is absolutely right. We should have started this campaign 10 years ago. And then when the dust settled, we should have taken over their oil fields in lieu of our time and effort, and sold it back to them one exorbitantly priced barrel at a time.
And if we had done stateside what we should have done ten years ago, the US would be swimming in her own surplus energy sources. What a difference a "leader" would make.
Posted by: OldTimer | April 01, 2011 at 04:28 PM
"The incident began when thousands of protesters poured out of the Blue Mosque in Mazar-i-Sharif after Friday prayers..."
We used think going to the bakery for donuts after church was a really big deal when I was a kid.
Posted by: Tom Bowler | April 01, 2011 at 04:29 PM
According to the American Thinker article, only 29 people cared enough to comment.
What can you say? How many times can you shout "that's barbaric" to a world that elevates barbarism over civilized behavior?
Posted by: Rob Crawford | April 01, 2011 at 04:30 PM
"fdcol63 for president!"
He's got MY vote.
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 01, 2011 at 04:31 PM
And if we had done stateside what we should have done ten years ago, the US would be swimming in her own surplus energy sources.
Yeah, but ten years ago all we heard from the Perpetually Concerned was that it would be a decade before any of that oil made a difference, so we did the right thing in not drilling.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | April 01, 2011 at 04:32 PM
WASHINGTON – The Pentagon is about to pull its attack planes out of the international air campaign in Libya, hoping NATO partners can take up the slack. The announcement Thursday drew incredulous reactions from some in Congress who wondered aloud why the Obama administration would bow out of a key element of the strategy for protecting Libyan civilians and crippling Muammar Qaddafi's army.
al Qaeda declares victory in 3 .. 2 .. 1 ..
Posted by: Neo | April 01, 2011 at 04:32 PM
you want to think a character like Achmed the Dead Terrorist is a joke, and then are faced with the zealots in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.
Fighting season is just now heating up in Afghanistan, and I'll bet this was a recruiting tool by the zealots. They are most certainly not stupid.
We are going to see a lot of casualties this year. Obama wants out and he wants results. This means we put people in harm's way. Two sentences from a buddy in Afghanistan this morning sums it up.
"On the downside, seeing it from here has not changed my perception on the viablity of the Afghan government and armed forces. We would need another 10 years to make them competent and effective. It's a sad, sad story. Makes me miss Iraq."
Posted by: matt | April 01, 2011 at 04:33 PM
It seems clear to me that there is abundant evidence to put before a grand jury and secure indictments of both Qaddafi and Musa Kusa for the murders of American citizens. If it were done, in the case of Musa Kusa we could promptly seek his extradition from the UK to the US and put the bastard on trial. I don't know why it isn't happening, but there's a hell of a lot that mystifies me these days.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 04:43 PM
DoT -- why trials? They're not deserving of them.
It's war, not crime-fighting.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | April 01, 2011 at 04:44 PM
"al Qaeda declares victory in 3 .. 2 .. 1 .."
Perhaps, but so what? The idiot Egyptians honored Mabarak for leading the Egpytian Army to victory over Israel. Besides, the President of the United States declared that BOzo's War would have a duration of days, not weeks and he appears to have meant it. The only thing left to do is publish the number of Libyan lives saved or created during the war in order to establish the magnitude of the victory.
fdcol has my vote as well. I'll vote for him twice if he promises to place Qom between Medina and Mecca in the order of strikes.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 01, 2011 at 04:50 PM
"al Qaeda declares victory in 3 .. 2 .. 1 .."
Perhaps, but so what? The idiot Egyptians honored Mabarak for leading the Egpytian Army to victory over Israel. Besides, the President of the United States declared that BOzo's War would have a duration of days, not weeks and he appears to have meant it. The only thing left to do is publish the number of Libyan lives saved or created during the war in order to establish the magnitude of the victory.
fdcol has my vote as well. I'll vote for him twice if he promises to place Qom between Medina and Mecca in the order of strikes.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 01, 2011 at 04:50 PM
Jim @ 3.55 PM:
I started with Medina and Mecca to quickly grab their attention, rather than a tedious incremental increase from places like Qom, Najaf, and whatever other places.
But if you wanted to go there before hitting the capitals, I'm flexible.
And I have no desire to ever be a politician. LOL But like many of you, I'm afraid that our attempts to "be nice" will continue to be perceived by Muslims as weakness.
Thus they will make this scenario much more likely because we will eventually run out of patience when the next large scale attack comes.
Either that or we really are dead as a culture and ready for dhimmitude.
Posted by: fdcol63 | April 01, 2011 at 04:51 PM
Seeing as Musa Kusa, did put a hit out on Crown Prince Now King Abdullah, I think the Sauds will chip in, toward the rebels,
Posted by: narciso | April 01, 2011 at 04:56 PM
Don't mess with Meshad.
==========
Posted by: Please. | April 01, 2011 at 04:56 PM
Before we leave, rip up the 8-lane highways!
They only use their routes to better distribute their "poppy's."
Posted by: Carol.Herman | April 01, 2011 at 04:57 PM
I'll always think fondly of fdcol63 like this henceforth:

Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 04:59 PM
A response...
The media, Schumer and Reid have called Tea Party folks like myself racists, "tea-baggers" and uncivil. Now they are calling us "extreme".
From the ground up...I'll speak for myself. I don't consider myself to be any of those things. I support individual freedoms and free enterprise. I don't consider that "extreme".
I do consider 3 years of deficits around $1.5 Trillion (10% of GDP) and no effort at all to deal w/ increases in federal government spending growth from 19.5% to 25% extreme and irresponsible. I understand the consequences to this kind of irresponsibility.
I do consider passing healthcare legislation, which rewards certain constituencies, at the expense of long term fiscal stability and consideration for the risks it puts on Main Street business (and employment in the middle of a recession) to be extreme.
I do consider the constant bailouts and favors smacking of corruption that are given to political favorites at the expense of taxpayers to be extreme compared to the country I grew up in.
The road you are taking this country down is not a road I want to go down. Call me whatever you want. That's not going to change.
One Tea Party independent.
Posted by: Army of Davids | April 01, 2011 at 05:02 PM
I've always enjoyed MJW's comments, but they appear here less frequently than I'd prefer these days. She made an interesting point about the WI mess over at Shark and Shepherd. In rampant violation of her copyright, she said:
What kinda ties everything together is that in State ex rel. La Follette v. Stitt, a promising young man named David Prosser filed an amicus brief objecting to the legislation. His position failed to carry the day in preventing the law from taking effect. Today he sits on the WI Supreme Court, where he may be asked to opine on a similar question. (To be fair, he thought the restrictions violated in the earlier cases were constitutional rather than statutory.)
Apologies to MJW--but it just isn't fair that we have to visit the comment sections of obscure blogs to receive her insights.
Posted by: Walter | April 01, 2011 at 05:18 PM
The irreligious left cannot begin to fathom the destructive force of the Mohamatans’ faith. It is a power with which the left has no experience and of which no comprehension. Because religious faith is, by definition, irrational, no amount of theorizing can account for the willingness to stone or behead one’s own children. Quite literally, their rage has nothing to do with poverty, American aggression or Bush. It is driven by the words of their prophets and we fit the type of the Great Satan. It is their duty and glory to destroy us. The actions of the USA are irrelevant except to be viewed as vile, whatever they are. It is more powerful than any political or familial alliance.
It will not abate.
Posted by: MarkO | April 01, 2011 at 05:28 PM
THANK YOU for posting this!
We've been all over this issue on Common Cents....
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com
Posted by: Steve | April 01, 2011 at 05:31 PM
About all this war business about trying to determine who's the good guys or the bad guys over there, or even if there any, and will the media really ever try to report it:
While housecleaning last night came across some old letters I'd written to a friend eight years back mentioning the ancient Greeks. It was late 2003, so during Bush's first term and the MainStream Media had obviously been in full hate Bush AntiWar mode. I think I had been reading Victor David Hanson's Carnage and Culture, tho' it may have been something else, but the point I had forgotten and that struck me upon rereading last night was sort of my compilation of what the author mentioned, and my perception of the rabid media at the time:
"Another point thats added to my great appreciation of The Greek's honest evaluation of Human Nature, is their twin War gods, Aries and Athena. Coming of age in the late Vietnam days, and especially from the recent events of Gulf War 2, I constantly come across a rather simplistic, sloganeering attitude from the left; (ie) 'that Warfare, the military etc is just an unnecessary creation of simple minded, thick skulled, testosterone-filled cretinous males.'
Its an easily attributable caricature to the likes of Rumsfeldt, Bush, Cheney et al, quite broadly and easily painted on by the sneering opiner's of media, academia, and Hollywood.
Well the Greeks recognized that sort of alluring, neanderthalic bloodlusty attraction of passion filled bombast and belligerence in Aries, their male war God. Yet they aptly also crowned the Goddess of Wisdom, Athena, a Goddess of War, for the sort of much more reasoned, thoughtful side of a warrior---the individual driven to war by a protective necessity rather than by base natures of rapine and macho slaughter. In a relatively free society of egalitarian citizens valuing shared civic values (as were our Polis Greeks) the martial aspects embodied by Athena will reside in the individual hearts of men to at least an equal and probably a greater degree, than the simplistic militant barbarism so coyly bestowed on Conservatives. The Greek recognition of both those aspects of Human Nature I find wonderfully refreshing, especially after yet another week trapped in hotel rooms with the one-sided adolescent blather of CNN and the BBC."
That part about the Greeks impressed me, but even more so the contrast of how our MSM is generally still in the carrying water mode for this President.
Posted by: daddy | April 01, 2011 at 05:31 PM
LUN is a Rep campaign ad taking on the BO-Biden ticket that should make evryone smile.
Do not miss the unicorn riding over the rainbow at the end.
Posted by: rse | April 01, 2011 at 05:31 PM
And also from that letter mentioned above was this:
Take any 3 digit number of repeating digits (ie) 777, 666, etc, and divide it by the sum of adding those 3 digits (ie) 777 divided by 7 + 7 + 7, so 777 divided by 21. The answer will always be 37.
Must have been reading a math back.
Anybody have any idea why that works that way?
Posted by: daddy | April 01, 2011 at 05:37 PM
religious faith is, by definition, irrational
Would you mind defining "religious faith"?
And "irrational"?
Posted by: bgates | April 01, 2011 at 05:47 PM
in considering the fate of Moussa Kussa, Rahman Lama Ding Dong, and others of the Qadaffi loyalists, I think one humane option might be to send them to Saudi Arabia and see just how far the whole Islamic forgiveness thing goes.
I'm sure the King would love to have the purported author of his demise as a houseguest.
Posted by: matt | April 01, 2011 at 05:48 PM
Anybody have any idea why that works that way?
The start number is of the form n * 111
You divide it by n + n + n = n * 3
111 / 3 is 37
Posted by: bgates | April 01, 2011 at 05:56 PM
"Would you mind defining "religious faith"?
And "irrational"?"
Go with ordinary usage.
Posted by: MarkO | April 01, 2011 at 05:56 PM
Who is MJW?
I've decided that paying attention to Wisconsin is really bad for my health. I give up.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 05:58 PM
Daddy - Just put in an algebraic form and it will be obvious:
Y = (100X + 10X + X)/3X
Posted by: Jim Miller | April 01, 2011 at 06:01 PM
" such an action could provoke violence in Afghanistan and could endanger American troops. Mr. Jones subsequently promised not to burn a Koran, but he nonetheless presided over a mock trial and then the burning of the Koran at his small church in Gainesville, Fla., on March 20, with only 30 worshipers attending.
The act drew little response worldwide, but provoked angry condemnation in this region, where it was reported in the local media and where anti-American sentiment already runs high."
Why do Tea-Bagger Christianists hate our troops?
Posted by: Loving the | April 01, 2011 at 06:03 PM
--Because religious faith is, by definition, irrational, no amount of theorizing can account for the willingness to stone or behead one’s own children.--
I might consider qualifying that by stating irrational religious faith is by definition irrational.
Aquinas might be as surprised as I was to find he was by definition irrational.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 06:06 PM
--Who is MJW?--
Crackerjack lawyer who has commented here occasionally and at Patterico's and, IIRC, Beldar's, among other places.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 06:09 PM
Try Hebrews 11:1.
I did not say someone with faith was irrational, but you can argue with yourself if you wish.
Next, explain the rational basis for stoning. Or in believing in things unseen.
Faith is a wonderful blessing in life; a powerful force, but not a scientific fact.
If it is important to you to believe your faith (if that is the point) is rational, I will not get in your way.
Posted by: MarkO | April 01, 2011 at 06:10 PM
DoT,
To square the circle, I finally got around to reading the WI appeals court punt to the WI Supremes. They hang their hat on a 2009 WI SC case in which the unions argued that the Court could not invalidate a law based on an alleged failure to follow statutory law-passing procedures, even if those procedures are related to Constitutional prohibitions. The unions lost.
So, to reiterate, everything old is new again and principled application of the law takes a back seat to outcomes in a particular case.
It's a great example of the reasons _not_ to have an elected judiciary. Or to have another martini. Or both.
Posted by: Walter | April 01, 2011 at 06:27 PM
Mightn't it be worthwhile to wax the Blue Mosque in Mazar-i-Sharif's imam while we consider fdcol's larger overall strategy?
Posted by: Extraneus | April 01, 2011 at 06:43 PM
--Or in believing in things unseen.--
Like neutrinos?
Romans tells us the creation is precisely the evidence of the unseen creator which makes man without excuse.
There is nothing by definition irrational nor unreasonable about faith.
One can argue that the Christian faith is wrong without claiming, incorrectly I believe, that it is irrational or unreasonable.
I make no claims for the rationality of Islam nor Hinduism.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 06:47 PM
After all, these imams are surely at least as willing to die for Allah as the acolytes they minister to. Aren't they? If the Q'ur'an is any indication, they'd be ecstatic to lay down their lives in such glorious fashion. For Allah.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 01, 2011 at 06:55 PM
We'd be doing them a supreme favor, helping them achieve the status of Master of 72 Virgins, not to mention a place at the right hand of Allah in perpetuity.
They would thank us if they could.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 01, 2011 at 06:57 PM
The irreligious left cannot begin to fathom the destructive force of the Mohamatans’ faith.
I think this is true. The left does not understand the power of religious beliefs. They USE the trappings of religion for their politics sometimes, but it has little to do with God.
I think it is why the left is so clueless about what Islam really teaches.
I believe the Bible, so I understand how Muslims can believe.
Posted by: Janet...Viejita Fumadora de Virginia | April 01, 2011 at 07:01 PM
I read the above comment by Sumi a couple of days ago and lost it. Found it again at this site.
Even she is apparently advising the Repubs to just pass it again. I wonder what they think they have gained by not just ramming it through weeks ago, but instead playing this game of behaving as though the Dems' every dirty trick is legitimate.
Momentum is more easily lost in politics than sports especially when your opponents are crooks and liars.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 07:01 PM
I just cannot comprehend what the Wisconsin GOP is doing, and I have given up on them.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 07:10 PM
IDoes anyone know what WI law says about whether an order granting a TRO is appealable as a "final order" or otherwise?
Under Federal Law they normally not appealable. But if they last too long or as a practical matter decide the case, they ripen into a de facto preliminary injunction which is appealable.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | April 01, 2011 at 07:19 PM
Is it possible they just won't have the votes for try number 2? Didn't a couple GOPers defect in the first vote?
Posted by: centralcal | April 01, 2011 at 07:20 PM
I'm so very sad to report that my family has suffered a second crushing loss today - Mr. Vince Tomasello, has passed away 46 days after being diagnosed with testicular cancer.
Please pray for his family and my niece-so young to go through such a tragedy.
Posted by: Enlightened | April 01, 2011 at 07:25 PM
Oh dear Enlightened. I am so so sorry.
Posted by: Jane | April 01, 2011 at 07:27 PM
En- I am sorry your family has had such a burden of sorry these last few weeks. xoxoxo
Posted by: MayBee | April 01, 2011 at 07:30 PM
Very, very sorry to hear that Enlightened.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 07:31 PM
Ext,
So sorry to hear of your losses. My prayers are with you.
Jim,
If you look at the "punt" linked above, you see the Court of Appeals apparently granting leave to appeal the TRO, but refusing to decide because (a) the facts are not in dispute and (b) the WI Supreme Court cases are all over the map.
Ignatz,
If I were a WI GOP legislator, I'd rather not have my office cluttered with protesters for another week or two. Especially since the court case should eventually come out in my favor.
Posted by: Walter | April 01, 2011 at 07:31 PM
How about those Rangers? Skid marks on the Red Sox who I think many handicappers are giving the nod to as the best from the East.
Bring on those Yankees.
Posted by: Gmax | April 01, 2011 at 07:37 PM
Sorry--Enlightened
Posted by: Walter | April 01, 2011 at 07:38 PM
sorrow
Posted by: MayBee | April 01, 2011 at 07:45 PM
W is enjoying watching the vaunted BoSox lose to Texas while sitting next to Nolan-No Hit-Ryan. And I am committed to watching more baseball this year and read more books like the one at LUN. My great-grandfather knew and played with most of these guys back when if you caught the ball on the first bounce it was an out.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | April 01, 2011 at 07:46 PM
Sorry to hear, Enlightened.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | April 01, 2011 at 07:47 PM
So sorry to hear that, Enlightened.
Posted by: narciso | April 01, 2011 at 07:50 PM
So very sorry, Enlightened.
Posted by: Old Lurker | April 01, 2011 at 07:50 PM
There you are, JiB!!!
Posted by: MayBee | April 01, 2011 at 07:53 PM
My deepest condolences Enlightened.
Posted by: RichatUF | April 01, 2011 at 08:03 PM
Ccal, only one Republican wimped out on the vote, and I have seen no suggestion that any others have done so since then. You could easily convince me that the whole bunch is brain-dead.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 08:12 PM
--Ignatz,
If I were a WI GOP legislator, I'd rather not have my office cluttered with protesters for another week or two.--
Yeah, Walter, it's a bit of a mess now.
My main point was, as soon as the fleebaggers took their circus on the road the Repubs should have rammed it through and been done with it.
I'm trying to think of a time when playing nice with lefties ever worked out to conservative's benefit. No luck yet. I'll keep you posted if anything comes to me.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 08:13 PM
Words fail, Enlightened.
Posted by: MarkO | April 01, 2011 at 08:13 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that, En. My prayers to your niece, your, and his families.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 01, 2011 at 08:14 PM
Maybe the recall petitions have them spooked, DoT.
Posted by: MayBee | April 01, 2011 at 08:15 PM
'Forget it, Danube, it's Madison' in other news, another balanced view of the Fukishima crisis,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/fukushima_panic_breaks_completely_free_of_facts/print.html
Posted by: narciso | April 01, 2011 at 08:15 PM
I may be wrong, but I am going to go against the current here and predict a win for Prosser. I think the lack of private polls being released is easily explained. Republicans know that turnout in April stand alone elections are sparse and dont want to lose any voters who just stay home. And libs, dont want to release results that will depress their workers and the left.
It will be magnificent when it happens in light blue Wisconsin, as it means the Democrats are bing cherry cooked goose.
Posted by: Gmax | April 01, 2011 at 08:17 PM
The Martini hour has graced Los Barriles. All is quite mellow...
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 08:24 PM
Sorry to hear that, Enlightened.
Walter, thank you for posting here.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 01, 2011 at 08:27 PM
Sorry to hear that Enlightened.
Jim, it's been ages since I knew WI law but as I recall on things like that it generally tracks federal law.
Posted by: clarice | April 01, 2011 at 08:31 PM
Ext--Just doing my best to avoid
workburnout over the next couple weeks. Hope you don't mind the extra prayers that went your way before I caught myself.Posted by: Walter | April 01, 2011 at 08:33 PM
--predict a win for Prosser--
Me too. I doubt the widespread revulsion with government spending that swept the Dems out in Nov disappeared overnight just because a bunch of rancid old hippies took a dump and smoked some weed in the capital building.
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 08:34 PM
GMax-
You haven't seen the full effect of the Milwaukee County turnout machine. 104% of reg. voters.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 01, 2011 at 08:35 PM
He was much too young, en. His wife will need all the prayers she can get. That's one thing we can do. Or think good thoughts if not religious.
Thanks, Walter. Who would rule on an expedited appeal before the SCWI? Is there such a thing contemplated in the WI appellate rules?
So many questions and so many practical political decisions to make. Maybe that is what special counsel is working on.
I take comfort in knowing that Walker must have some political chops to have won in November and carried enough legislators with him to control both houses of the legislature.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | April 01, 2011 at 08:36 PM
Jim,
Footnote 3 in the punt states that they ordinarily would not grant leave to appeal the TRO. Footnote 2 says that they certify the motion to stay the TRO to the Supremes for the reasons I cited earlier.
Posted by: Walter | April 01, 2011 at 08:39 PM
From Drudge:
Knut the polar bear drowned after suffering brain disorder
Posted by: Extraneus | April 01, 2011 at 08:39 PM
In a probably futile attempt to innoculate TM against another David Brooks thread let me post his latest maundering imbecility here.
and not mean it as a joke ought to be publicly flogged.Any man that could write the following:
Posted by: Ignatz | April 01, 2011 at 08:40 PM
When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When you have both there's really no point in pounding the table.
I know someone with Van Hollan's office but have not discussed this. My guess is they're just going to play it out. I hope the tea party is in it for the long haul.
Posted by: boris | April 01, 2011 at 08:41 PM
Heh, Ignatz. Is he really first in line for the public floggings?
Posted by: Extraneus | April 01, 2011 at 08:43 PM
O/T-
The mortgage mess goes into a new area.
MBS' Trustee declared to have "No Standing" in suit to foreclose.
And thus closes the circle around NY Trust law's governance of the issue.
If this ruling stands, the residential real estate market will freeze worse than the North Pole.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 01, 2011 at 08:43 PM
I wonder if Brooks knows he has a crush on Bill Ayers.
Posted by: Jane | April 01, 2011 at 08:45 PM
Who reads what David Brooks writes and does not understand him to be a fool?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 01, 2011 at 08:46 PM
Oh good god, he's back referring Niebuhr again, reminds me of that scene in 'Back to School' with Kurt Vonnegut.
Posted by: narciso | April 01, 2011 at 08:48 PM
My prayers for your family, Enlightened.
Iggy, thanks for that. I had just been asking myself, "Is the Libyan Kinetic Unfriending an intervention in the spirit of Reinhold Niebuhr?" Turns out, yes it is.
Posted by: bgates | April 01, 2011 at 08:48 PM
Enlightened, my deepest condolences and prayers for your nephew. Isn't testicalular cancer one that mestacisizes more rapidly? Is that what happened. Another reason for all of us - when you suspect something isn't right with the old frame or engine, go quickly to get it diagnosed. We have a friend here who has been in and out of D. A. Anderson in Houston because she thought all she had was a sore throat for a couple of weeks and it turned out to be esphoucal cancer with a lump the size of golf ball.
Leave nothing to chance - do all you can now - before the death panels and rationing kicks in.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | April 01, 2011 at 08:53 PM
What the hell? How provocative does one have to be about the lame side in pinstripes to draw a response from his highness and blog proprietor? Ok here you go. Afraud lets his girlfriend feed him!
Bring it.
Posted by: Gmax | April 01, 2011 at 09:03 PM