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June 09, 2011

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Agent J. (formally known as "J"..

Old politicians do not die, "they just fade away..

sbw

Yay!

anduril

Steve Sailer:

I've always kind of liked Newt, but he's a flake. I remember listening to a dinner table conversation in the 1990s about Newt between two people who were much more insiders than me, so I kept my mouth shut and paid attention. The first, who I won't name, was a woman who attained some prominence in politics in the 1990s, but struck me as a flake. She was highly enthusiastic about Newt running for President.

The other person was General William Odom, who had been Zbig's assistant for military intelligence in the Carter Administration, then head of the National Security Administration in the Reagan Administration. He was not a flake. Odom rolled his eyes at the idea of President Newt, and replied that when Gingrich had first obtained a leadership position in Congress in the 1980s, Odom had invited Gingrich over to get the two-hour NSA briefing reserved for the top few officials in Congress. When Newt showed up, however, he talked for two hours straight, giving Odom's staff Newt's two-hour tour d'horizon. Nobody left the room better informed than they had entered, except in terms of awareness of Newt's chief liability: Americans want leaders who give the impression that they know more than they are saying, but nobody could possibly know more than Newt says.

Barbara

Just a wild guess, could it be that they know something embarrassing about Newt and are jumping ship before it hits the iceberg, so to speak?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Fox reporting that the senior campaign staff were mostly Perry aides in a former life and this may be a sign that Perry is getting into the race.

Clarice

Does Newt know? Last i read he and Callista were off yachting somewhere.

sbw

Newt can now tell people that the old style Republican pundits like David Gergen, David Brooks, and Karl Rove to blow it out their *** because they are trying to protect a way of business as usual that would not be good for the country.

Barbara
Fox reporting that the senior campaign staff were mostly Perry aides in a former life...

Thanks, Sara.

DebinNC

and there was a question of commitment

I hope all the resume-padding dabblers are dispatched asap, winnowing the field to the very few willing to give the run their all.

Danube of Thought

I wouldn't put Rove in the smae sentence with Gergen and Brooks. Those two are Reublicans about as much as Colin Powell and Meghan McCain.

sbw

DoT, true, but for the life of me I can't understand Rove's position except that he has a lot of coalition capital invested in business as usual.

MarkO

I must be one of those snobs, but I don't think Newt is nearly so smart as others think. He's unelectable. The sooner he disappears, the better. I'd prefer Trump to hassle Obama for a few months. Newt is just too, too.

Jane

I agree about Newt. He is far too willing to get along.

We are having a heck of a storm here - not good given the conditions.

Boatbuilder

I'm in Downtown Hartford--5:00 and it looks like midnight. Take care, Jane.

Porchlight

When I hear Newt on the radio, he makes a lot of sense, and I can't help but like the guy. But he's a terrible candidate and I think probably would make an even worse executive.

MarkO

Sorry Jane. It must be something about Cotton or Increase Mather.

lyle

Wow, as if the difference between political flacks and rats needed any more similarities.

Jack is Back!

clarice,

Newt is back. In fact, I read somewhere he was giving a speech or something to that effect.

Yep, its the Perry vortex drawing them away from Newt.

If Perry gets in, will Sarah? Now we are talking big time rumble in the jungle - Palin, Romney, Perry, Pawlenty plus a all the other character actors, Huntsman, Johnson, Santorum, Cain, Paul, Rudy, Bachmann, et.al. Sort of like one of those old time westerns with John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart. You knew them by name but the Jack Elams, Emmet Walshs and Chief Dan Georges were only face familiar.

/Pining for a Western, is that why I like Sarah and Perry?

daddy

So who bails out first, Newt or the Weiner?

I'm going against the CW spread and picking Newt.

And also I'm betting that Sarah won't tip her candidate hand until the 24,000 e-mails have been seriously dug thru by the MSM coprologists in search of a Palin nugget.


lyle

Is it possible to figuratively delete a comment? If so, please disregard my somewhat incoherent point about political hacks and rats.

daddy

OT,

David Mamet on the Dennis Miller Show.

Caller asks about his transition from left to right and Mamet answers, "No, I didn't get on my knees and say "Please God, please help me transition from a Lefty to a hated minority. It just happened naturally."

Then he says that while teaching a class he said he said he asked as a joke "What was Custer's last words? Here come the Indians."

He said that the class was silent because they couldn't figure out if "Indian's" was racist, and then he quipped how it didn't work if he had said the punchline as "Here come the Native American's."

He is very funny. An excellent segment of the Dennis Miller Show.

Jack is Back!

We should all volunteer to vet the emails. And if we find any that look ill timed or incorrect we can alway do a Sandy Berger. I know a guy that sells socks that have pockets sewn into them.

daddy

Caller asks,

"Mister Mamet, what took you so long to come to the right side."

Without taking a second Mamet answers, "I was stupid."

Big laughter:)

Porchlight

I am buying Mamet's book, daddy. Looking forward to it.

Jane

I shouldn't have mentioned it boatbuilder, because I am fine, and enough worry has already gone on, on my behalf.

OTOH given how close you are, you aren't going to be able to escape a get together with the MA kids forever.

windansea

this means Perry is in. Palin will probably endorse him and it will come down to Romney vs Perry.

I think Perry is the best bet to whup Dumbo
and he has less baggage than Romney, more palatable to conservatives.

also, it's all about the jobs stupid

Thomas Collins

Lightning show in downtown Boston. This type of weather always reminds me of the Lord's who the eff are you speech in the Book of Job (sorry if anyone is taken aback by my characterization of the speech, but I can never think of a better way to describe the speech).

Boatbuilder

I know that, Jane. If I'd been paying attention I would have elbowed in on you and Hit at Bradley Airport. One of these days.

Danube of Thought

The secession bit will be trotted out against Perry. But I suspect a lot of folks are kinda receptive to the notion.

daddy

Anyone mind if we nickname the guys who sign up to sift thru the Palin e-mails "Coprologists". I probably spelled it wrong, but I think it's the word for the guys who dig for fossilized Dinosaur feces.

And speaking of such stuff, funny story from the ADN. Drunken driver's 'I didn't fart' defense fails on appeal.

Drunken driver says that he "Burped, not Farted", during his Breathalyzer. Arresting Officer says the perp is lying, "He Farted, not Burped."

The legal crux of the matter is that if he burped then the Officer would have had to wait 15 minutes and do a new Breathalyzer, but if he farted then the Breathalyzer in question was legal.

Arresting Officer's audiotape of the incident has sound of a bodily expulsion from the suspect, to which the arresting Officer contemporaneously asks, "Was that Gas?"

Judge rules it was a Fart not a Burp. Book 'em Danno.

Ranger

Perry getting in is probably giving team Obama nightmares right now. Comparing the economic success of Texas with the economic failure of the US economy in general will be very hard for team Obama to work around.

Extraneus

Hasn't Texas added more jobs during the recession than all other states combined?

I'm still for Palin, because she'd hurt them more deeply and probably be just as good a president, if not better, but Perry would probably have an easier time kicking Obama's ass. And we all know that's the ass that needs kicking.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Romney/Perry would work for me and apparently for the business community if the comments on Cavuto are any judge.

daddy

This will probably say more about my ignorance than anything else, but to me Perry is essentially a blank slate.

I think that is a good thing and I hope it's widespread.

I try to pay attention and can mention a few things he's done that I am aware of, but unlike Newt or Romney who I have big familiarity with and opinions against, I don't have any such thing with Perry---no positives or negatives.

This means he has the opportunity to present himself to me on a blank slate and to convince me why I should give him my vote. And considering that he's from Texas and can obviously attack Obama from experience with an out of control Federal Border, Illegal Immigration, Mexican Gun running, Gulf Oil Drilling Moratorium's, EPA proposals to kill Coal powered plants, and an out of control EPA trying to shut down new Oil Fields because of some endangered Lizard, I think he's got the opportunity of a lifetime to annihilate Obama.

Do you guys think most potential November 2012 Voters share my current basic ignorance of the guy, or am I wrong?

windansea

Comparing the economic success of Texas with the economic failure of the US economy in general will be very hard for team Obama to work around.

yeah, what are they gonna say, "but uh er George Bush!!"

All Perry needs to do is keep saying is that he created more jobs than all other states combined, most business friendly state, lowest tax burden, balanced budget, etc

what about you dummy?

Extraneus

Here's the lefty knock on Perry.

Doesn't it make you like him even more?

Rick Ballard

Daddy,

Here's a Gallup chart with most candidates (not Perry yet) which gives a name recognition percentage. I would imagine that Perry would fall between Pawlenty and Santorum - around 50%.

I'd like to hear what Porchlight, Sue and Gmax have to say about him.

jimmyk

Eventually Texas and the USA under the Dems would be like Hong Kong and China (before China became more capitalist). Perry can just say "Let's make the whole country more like Texas."

Jane

One of these days.

He must be due back in town sometime soon. That would be great.

Perry getting in is probably giving team Obama nightmares right now. Comparing the economic success of Texas with the economic failure of the US economy in general will be very hard for team Obama to work around.

Boy that would be so much fun. The right guy, the right message all rolled into one. What did Perry do before government? I want Romney out of the mix.

Jane

Ex,

After reading that article I am chomping at the bit for Perry!

centralcal

Jane, I honestly don't think Romney will be part of the mix if Perry gets in.

T.C. "Who are you to question my wisdom, with your ignorant, empty words? Stand up now, like a man, and answer the questions I ask you!" sayeth God according to the version I learned many long years ago.

On Twitter they name the departures "Newtiny." Bye, bye, Newt. Whose next to go? Has Bachmann fired Rollins yet? If not, she will be next.


Soylent Red

Perry would be great. I could even stomach a Perry/Romney ticket, although I think a Perry/Palin ticket would be more ideologically sound (and dangerous). The secessionist knock can be easily countered with a simple,

"Texans don't want to secede. They want to suc-ceed. Just like the rest of America. And Obama is standing in everyone's way."

Bestest part? It tends to shut up some or all of the Lone Star L. Ron Paul cultists.

Janet

Doesn't it make you like him even more?

Yes!

Ranger

Well, I am aware of Perry for two reasons. First, the job creation issue (yes, half of all the jobs created in the US over the last few years have been created in Texas). Second is his directive to the University of Texas system to develop a quality 4 year BA program that doesn't cost more than $10,000. The Educrats in Texas hate him becuase they know, deep down, it can be done, and once it is, the gravy train is over for them.

Jack is Back!

If Perry gets in the Dems message will be "do you want another Texas governor?" to which the public will resoundingly say YES, Please, once again, Anything but the nitwit in the White House now.

Plus Perry will not hesitate to call Obama out on all the issues by name and with damning specifics. He is no shrinking violet and is still pissed at Obama's brush off on border security when he met him at his plane.

If fact, that may have more to do with his decision - Don't Mess With Texas - is more than a bumper sticker.

centralcal

Anti-Government Slug

Sounds like a perfect campaign slogan to me. And, heck, snippets of that leftie's diatribe would get standing ovations in conservative quarters.

Great find, Ext.

Soylent, I think Perry/Palin would make a great ticket - in either position.

Ranger

Here is a summary of the $10K BA that Perry wants to see done:

A Bachelor’s Degree for $10K? Yes, We Can

Texas Governor Rick Perry proposed it for his state schools, and it's a perfectly plausible goal.

February 23, 2011 - 12:00 am - by Publius Audax

In his recent State of the State address, Texas Governor Rick Perry called for the state’s universities to begin offering a bachelor’s degree with a total cost (including tuition, fees, and textbooks) of only $10,000, in contrast to the current $26,800 to $45,300. If we include the cost to taxpayers, the total bill (at UT-Austin) runs to at least $95,000.

Can we really reduce that cost by nearly 90%, while maintaining or even improving quality? Yes, we can, if we do two things: intelligently exploit the huge economies of scale in higher education in Texas, with 950,000 students in college; and take full advantage of technology.

As they say, read the whole thing.


Is Texas children learning?

The lefty take on Perry;

"According to the League of Texas Conservation Voters, Rick Perry has one of the dirtiest environmental records of any governor. He's put polluters and their business interests ahead of things like clean air and clean water and has repudiated the very existence of the Environmental Protection Agency, fast-tracking 11 dirty coal plants, has called the BP oil spill "an act of God", and has supported his supportive Big Oil polluters in a good 'ol boy network of purported human beings all bent upon making money over preserving the planet.

In 2009, Perry nominated Gail Lowe, an outspoken creationist, to head the Texas State Board of Education--actually the lesser of two evils when we consider that her contender for the position believed the government should be subjected to "a Biblical litmus test". Lowe has suggested that biology textbooks that do not place creationism and the Biblical creation story on the same par as empirical science should be barred from the state.

On the educational field--which actually should be called EDUMACATION--Perry and his hand-picked Christian fundamentalists and hard-core right-wing ideologues on the Texas State Board of Education provoked national outrage over their approval of a history textbook that removed--removed--Thomas Jefferson from history because apparently Jefferson didn't pass the ideological litmus test, although both Rush Limbaugh, the political hitman, and Glenn Beck, the idiot who believes this is the End Times, made the cut. "

Hey! What's wrong with edumacation?

DebinNC

Romney/Perry, instead of Perry/Romney? Why?

rpg

Today's Texas Tribune


A series of email exchanges between Republican Party boosters and the office of Gov. Rick Perry indicate some conservatives believe passing the contentious “sanctuary cities” bill may cripple efforts to recruit more Hispanics to their ranks.

The correspondence signals a potential rift between Perry, who appears intent on addressing immigration issues during the current special session, and some of the party’s backers as rumors surrounding a possible Perry presidential run continue to swirl.

“At the end of the day you should understand that Hispanic voters will not support a party that wants to deport their mother and father,” Norman Adams, the co-founder of Texans for Sensible Immigration Policy and a member of Texas GOP Vote, a conservative website, wrote to Ray Sullivan, Perry’s chief of staff. The messages are part of an email exchange that began June 2 and were obtained by the Tribune.

Jane

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the left wing hate machine. Speaking of which I read this today defending Weiner on a left wing forum:


Just because he is a pathological risk taker, is terribly narcissistic in some ways, and is somekind of sex addict, and tried to cover all that up by lying (as virtually all of us would have done, had we found ourselves in a similar situation), does not mean he should quit Congress or be forced out by a bunch of hypocrit colleagues.

I am absolutely embarrassed that we could ever lose to these guys.

j wopner

Perry is definitely not a blank slate.

But he is a viable candidate. I wish him well.

Janet

What about Maxine Waters?

Gmax

Perry can and will beat this horribly incompetent neophyte narcissist like a child on christmas morning with a new toy drum.

Join the movement.

MarkO

"I am absolutely embarrassed that we could ever lose to these guys."

There may be more of them than us.


MarkO

Sue, get me a win tonight. Come on. You can will it.

Gmax

Texas Tribune = liberal trash. Take everything from it from this point forward as designed to reelect Zero.

Dave (in MA)
Drunken driver says that he "Burped, not Farted", during his Breathalyzer. Arresting Officer says the perp is lying, "He Farted, not Burped."

The legal crux of the matter is that if he burped then the Officer would have had to wait 15 minutes and do a new Breathalyzer, but if he farted then the Breathalyzer in question was legal.

Why, did he have asthma?

Porchlight

this means Perry is in. Palin will probably endorse him and it will come down to Romney vs Perry.

I think you might be right. Palin has said consistently that she'll run if there's no conservative in the race who can win.

Palin and Perry are friends.

I could be wrong, but I don't see her getting in against him.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Yesterday I saw a poll that said on 24% agreed with Obama's policies. Yet he still has poll numbers hovering around 50%.

Janet

A WaPo update ...
UPDATE: We have had a strong response to our crowdsourcing call-out on the Palin e-mails. We've reconsidered our approach and now would like to invite comments and annotations from any interested readers.

Porchlight

crowdsourcing

Ugh, I think I do not like this new word.

Gmax

not sure which polls you are referencing but Susquehanna had one out this AM with s job approval rating of 41%. Did I mention its a RV poll? Or that Susquash leans left in polling? And this was in blue state Pennsylvania!!!!

Janet

Another comment at the WaPo - "Someone should gather WaPo and NYT
staff/exec emails and give them some of their own medicine."

We can see the connection between the MFM & the Democrat Party. The Fix indeed...it should be called The Fix Is In.

Sue

MarkO,

I'm working on it. I have bad karma rays directed towards each memeber of the Miami Heat, but most especially towards Dwyane Wade and Lebron James.

bolitha

As for Newt not running--I know Newt casually (his daughter married the son of a good friend of mine)--he is too much of an egotist not to run. He will acquire a new team and run and lose.I feel as if we are grasping for straws as to who as a Republican will be running.

Sue

From Governor Good Hair to President Good Hair. Woot! Woot!

Captain Hate

Lightning show in downtown Boston. This type of weather always reminds me of the Lord's who the eff are you speech in the Book of Job

It reminds me of the hammer that was dropped on the Caknuckleheads after those cheapshotting bastardos gave Horton a concussion. Those pricks still need to be put in a world of pain now that they woke up the slumbering bear. GO BRUINS!!!

Elliott

Romney losing to an impeccably coiffed quondam Democrat? You couldn't write this stuff.

Captain Hate

And GO MAVS!!!

Gmax

Not this one either:

By 45 percent to 42 percent, likely U.S. voters said they would prefer a generic Republican candidate to President Barack Obama in a 2012 presidential matchup, according to a poll released this week by Rasmussen Reports. That’s the second week in a row Obama has “lost” to a faceless candidate.

Boatbuilder

There was a good piece in the National Review (by Jay Nordlinger, I believe) in April. Perry is very sharp and very politically savvy. Even where Nordlinger was critical or opposed to Perry's positions, Perry made a lot of sense and his reasons for the positions and policies--some of which seemed to be at odds with a strict "conservative" philosophy--were hard to argue with. And the guy can talk.
A clean slate, however, does not necessarily mean that a Republican can waltz in like Clinton or Obama--it just means that the MSM can paint their own picture without much interference. Watch for the "Rick Perry--secessionist hard-right wacko" meme, coming soon to your local MSM outlet.

homeboy

""Rick Perry--secessionist hard-right wacko" meme,"

Where does the lamestrem media get this stuff?

It's just not fair

Sue

Rick,

He has some negatives, but then, they are really minor compared to what he has done right. I figure they will try and make him into Bush-lite, but it has been 12 years since he was Bush's Lt. Gov. so that might not stick. He will have to deal with the "Texas' governor is not really an executive position" that Bush had to deal with, but he can do it. And he isn't afraid of Obama.

rpg

"Texas Tribune = liberal trash."

Breitbart could debunk the emails. Why doesn't he?

Captain Hate

I have bad karma rays directed towards each memeber of the Miami Heat, but most especially towards Dwyane Wade and Lebron James.

It worked on Lebron and ultimately on DWade for that last play. GO MAVS!!!

Rob Crawford

The legal crux of the matter is that if he burped then the Officer would have had to wait 15 minutes and do a new Breathalyzer, but if he farted then the Breathalyzer in question was legal.

A belch would presumably mean gas from the stomach, which would have a higher level of alcohol than gasses from the lungs. A 'cleo, in contrast, would not pass through the breathalyzer barring an extremely unusual testing configuration.

Ranger

Wow, the trolls are out in force at just the mention of the possiblity of Perry running. Axelrod must be really scared by this guy.

Jane

I think once Perry says, "Texas created more jobs than the rest of the states combined, because of your policies bambi" the election will be over.

Anything else is background noise.

bolitha

We, as Republicans, are still grasping at straws. Will just anyone do as the nominee? All here seem to be doing that--grasping at straws. Which, I guess, is what we will have to do as no one yet has emerged as a strong contender. What a shame.

Rob Crawford

Where does the lamestrem media get this stuff?

From the same place a 'cleo eminates.

Note they never ask Obama about the particulars of the peculiar religion of "Reverend" Wright. Twenty years of Sundays attending hate rallies, praising the likes of Pfleger and Farrakhan and Khaddafi -- and the press treats it as if its indistinguishable from attending the local parish church.

Porchlight

Perry is a great public speaker. They would lose one of their big weapons against Palin in one fell stroke.

JackisBack!

Hey, let Rick Perry explain why Texas should have to suceed. It would recisinate with every American.

windansea

Anything else is background noise.

exactly, and that is why Odumbo's and his liberal media cohorts are having a collective sphincter tightening right now.

deported smoker

"eminates."

Do you mean 'emanates'?

Gmax

From the same place a 'cleo eminates.

I was going to say they pull it straight out of their @ss, but you beat me to it!

Rob Crawford

Do you mean 'emanates'?

Ohhhh... a spelling [f]lame!

JackisBack!

WTF, only one guy had his hand over his heart for the anthem and he was from Dallss. Even the coaches. Another fail for NBA as i am concerned. This is only the 3rd game I have watched in 3 years. Now I know why.

Rick Ballard

Sue,

Thank you. Here's the 2008 map. Assuming all Palin/McCain states are held, the net swing necessary for victory is 91 (Palin/McCain states gained 6 EVs due to reapportionment).

I can see Perry picking up FL, NC and VA without moving a finger. That's 57 EVs, leaving 34 needed. OH and IN would be next for 29. NM or CO would close the deal.

It just ain't that hard a row to hoe.

narciso

Two how little facts, play into their calculations, exhibit A,

http://patterico.com/2011/06/09/the-breitbart-laptop-lie-how-liberals-spread-it/#comment-802053

Gmax

Well if the Susquash poll is right, Pennsylvania is in play. And so is Michigan, and Wisconsin and Pawlenty on the ticket could drag in Minnesota too.

Gmax

What about the Omaha district in Nebraska. That is the definition of not moving a finger. Nebraska is not giving Zero any love this go round.

Clarice

"A WaPo update ...
UPDATE: We have had a strong response to our crowdsourcing call-out on the Palin e-mails. We've reconsidered our approach and now would like to invite comments and annotations from any interested readers."

Here are some off the top of my head:
(a) A systemic effort to confirm or rebut the claims in Obama's autobiography--including a search for transcripts and classmates
(b) A hunt for others on the Weiner funhouse directory.
(c) An interna investigation of what the Post knew and when about edwards and Reille and how they treated that in contrast to rumors about McCain and a "mistress"

(d) An investigative report into what Andrea and Gregory knew about Plame and when they knew it.
(e) An in depth interview of regular The View viewers with their names and addresses to be forwarded to SCAM for follow up opportunities.

Clarice

And an in depth report on why the heck anyone cares about the kardashian's.

sbw

As an AP member we can look at the emails online. I declined and suggested to our bureau chief that AP could sort through them... or find some real news to report.

glenda

Well, my fellow Texans: Porch, Sue & Gmax say thumbs up to Perry. I say ok, but...Palin/Perry is the way it should be. Perry has a lot of "Do as I say, not as I do" episodes..not as much back-stabbing as Palin has suffered, but his ego is "newt" like..He is still heads above the current field.

Perry really raised his conservative bona fides when Kay Baily H cut to the middle of him and tried to steal the governorship. And he came out swinging and won--he also has a very good rating with most democrat moderates and latinos...he is very strong on the border in election years..he kinda sucked on it between when he inherited the job to after GW's re-election.

He also has spent a lot of the taxpayers money on his private residence, since the mansion in Austin burned and is now almost restored. He and his family didn't spend much time in residence there..his wife is Michele O light. Again, a little to whine about, but if Sarah doesn't run, the South & West will support Perry over Romney or T-Paw

narciso

"They were for it, before they were against it?


http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/09/new-york-times-mixes-message-on-call-for-reader-help-with-palin-email-investigation-now-denies-request/

Clarice

I know, a review and analysis of Obamacare before the 11th Circuit holds it unconstitutional/

*****

Jim Treacher says this shoutout proves the NYT and WaPo are arms of the DNC. Hard to argue with that.

centralcal

Jim Treacher says this shoutout proves the NYT and WaPo are arms of the DNC. Hard to argue with that.

No, not "hard," but impossible. And so it is with Politico, National Journal, the alphabet "news" channels, most of our newspapers out here in hicksville (those owned by bigger media operations), etc. etc.

The not-left, not liberal, not commie rest of America has been waking up these past few years. More need to. "New" media is helping with that. But the awakening is slower than I would like.

JackisBack!

clarice,

She is in the progs head big time, more than Beck more than even Bush. This pre-emptive strike may end up an ambush. While tne green eye shade people are doing the sorting and reading, Perry slips in and there is no research, so its catch up time. Almost like it was planned:)

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