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July 11, 2011

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Melinda Romanoff

daddy-

One of those two is telling the truth.

Clarice

actually pagar, I'm a big fan of the IB program and served on the Bd of a leading IB school for 15 years.

I do not recall the UN having much to do with it, save the wish to have it for their kids so they could attend university in the parent country despite having been educated abroad.

narciso

Well a gaffe, is what happens when you inadvertently tell the truth, so Panetta
gaffed,

Ignatz

--I disagree with this point. Ranger has the better argument.--

Rich, I think appalled meant cleo could make a better argument that he was providing context by producing semi reasonable commentary as opposed to his C&P data dumps.

I think appalled's typo "ther" was supposed to be "the" not "their" which confused things.

MarkO

Panetta, a gaffed salmon.

Want vs Need

"If governance is the measure of success and the republicans see an opportunity in 2012, this would
provide some evidence they can do better than the current occupant."

The unthinkable word 'compromise' entails both sides being unsatisfied with the result, to avoid a disastrous result (default)

The blame game (who leads; who's serious?) is not productive.

Glad to concede the Dems have relished the position R's find themselves in with the debt. It is horrible, partisan politics and it must be stopped. That aside, knowing little will change, what to do?

Currently Obama is taking a hit from his tea Party on the ratio of cuts to tax (increases) revision which is about 4 to 1. The Left think Obama is punked often by the Republicans. They also feel key legislative partners have been left out of the negotiations.

What's it gonna take to get this done? What is the incentive for getting it done in the republican game book? Making him fail as an absolute strategy leaves us with less than a zero chance of pulling out of this dive. What say you?

Is making Obama fail the number 1 priority?

Ignatz

--Panetta, a gaffed salmon.--

Flounder, cuttlefish, snakehead, eel, squid maybe.
Salmon, no.

daddy

Jane,

Blow off Australia.

Better option is for Alaska to secede and for you to come on up. You get the EPA and the Fed's out of regulating us back to the Dark Ages and this place would flourish economically like you wouldn't believe.

Jane

Oh it is much much much better than "snagged".

Want vs Need

Ranger;

Not ignoring your questions just wove my reply into last.

MarkO

Best I can tell, Obama's great compromise (and compromise is overrated) amounts to little more than adopting the basics of his "budgets" and calling that taking the middle road.

Let's see how stupid the GOP can be.

MayBee

Y'know, the slogan for this administration ought to be "Boldness Without Specifics". (Second would be "Vision Without Implementation")

OMG, Appalled. I loved that so much I thought it was from JMH. (That is my highest praise.)

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Sylvia:

My ancestors on my father's side were Quakers who started arriving in the late 1600s. From Day One they were abolitionists, and by the early to mid 1800s, they were actively involved in the Underground Railroad and secretly teaching runaway slaves to read and write.

As to 1900, sure there was abject poverty in the ghettos, populated mostly by new immigrants. But, like most of our legal immigrants, by the 2nd generation, they were moving on up and a new group was moving in to take their place.

I have a series of letters written by my Grandmother to her Mother, spanning the years 1899 thru to 1922. She talks about being a new bride and how they struggled as all newly married couples do, but by the mid teens, she was talking about joining the Garden Club and how my Grandfather brought home one of the new "driving machines."

I'm sure you learned in h.s. classes, just as I did, about slumlords, yellow journalism, slaughterhouses, dust bowls, and many other things that caused poverty at different periods.

Apparently, having to start their American adventure in one of the tenements wasn't that horrible or would they keep coming in such large numbers and go to so much trouble to get the rest of their family here as well. My husband's grandfather was a wealthy horse trader in Russia. He escaped with his wife and his two oldest children and a new baby just before all hell broke loose with the Russian Revolution and the end of the era of the Czars. He arrived in America, according to the passenger manifest, with $35. He ended up as a day laborer on a beet farm in Colorado, and managed to work himself out of poverty and eventually buy his own farm, where he raised 10 children and the farm is still in the family today.

Muckraking today is no different than it was back in the '20s, '30s, and '40s. Socialist B.S. designed to govern by guilt.

narciso

Yeah how the folks Down Under fell for the Aussie John Kerry, and I don't even have an analog for Gilliard, is one of those mysteries
best left to Fox Mulder.

Charlie (Colorado)

He ended up as a day laborer on a beet farm in Colorado, and managed to work himself out of poverty and eventually buy his own farm, where he raised 10 children and the farm is still in the family today.

No kidding? Where was the farm?

Threadkiller
“Now is the time to deal with these issues,” Mr. Obama said at the start of a news conference at the White House. “If not now, when?”

Sure sounds like "now, more than ever". I remember a cut & paste saying that was a trick of the right.

BTW, if I was given a choice between new and old, I prefer the new cleo.

Appalled

Rich:

The "People's Budget" was never a serious proposal and it wasn't scored by the CBO.

Oh, I agree Ranger had the argument on the People's Budget. The context of the context remark was that Leo has said that his cut/pastes were designed to add context to conversations here.

matt

"Eating my peas" LUN

boris

Is making Obama fail the number 1 priority?

Say that like it's a bad thing.

Making GWB fail was Obama's reason for opposing the surge in Iraq, said so on national TV even "knowing" it would work.

Dems played politics with war. Dems play politics with the economy. Is there some "higher standard" when the GOP has a say?

Jane

I'm in Daddy! Either that or Texas. Got room for me Sue?

Want vs Need

Appalled;

Context has to do with the big picture, right? Then what is the pragmatic person to make of the pissing contest about who is serious about the debt and budget?

Or is 'argument' the point?

boris

Like to see the anarchist opposed to deregulation play the hypocrisy card on "standards".

Sara (Pal2Pal)

No kidding? Where was the farm?

Chaco:

We visited there in the late '70s and it became a family joke. I was driving and my hubby would say, turn right at the next rock, now turn left at that tree, etc. I'm not sure exactly where we ended up, but I know my husband was born at his maternal grandmother's house in Johnstown, CO (yes, I was also born in Johnstown, but in Pennsylvania) and later he attended Greeley H.S. When we were there, the farm had become a dry wheat farm and I believe it was really in Windsor.

Want vs Need

"Dems played politics with war. Dems play politics with the economy...."

I think your position is clear.

rse

Pagar-

IB is an area where Clarice and I have had an ongoing but polite disagreement for at least a year. She had a wonderful experience but it was before the 1990 and 2000 Education For All international conferences. The UN and UNESCO have become more aggressive in pushing what is a nonacademic/basic skills, largely affective curricula and classroom practices. In the last decade IB has become a preferred vehicle with an instructional model that centers around what is called the IB Learner profile.

Within the last year that have reorganized internationally with its center now in Amsterdam with Maryland and Singapore offices as well. I have one child in a Middle Years program school and another in a high school with a diploma program. Parents flock to the schools for the IB programs and the brightest kids hate it for the mindless busywork.

The principals in both schools have repeated hugely troubling (to me. I think of coffees as gathering material opportunities) quotes on IB in recent months that are consistent with how much this program has become about reframing the personality characteristics and values of the students. You get graded for engaging in activities. No knowledge required or desired.

This is not well appreciated which is what is so dangerous. Most people, like Pawlenty, think of it as an internationally-focused step up from honors classes. I would cut him some slack but I have commented in the past that I have concerns on his ed policies. He, like all the Republican candidates at all levels, needs to understand the extent to which education has become a Trojan horse. The damage is just as severe if the Reps are the ones bringing it within the city walls. The demoralization though is greater.

In education a good rep becomes an opportunity for mischief and abuse. That's what has happened with IB and is where AP is now going.

Jane

I just downloaded the newest firefox so now JOM is loading properly, but I have no tool bar. I INSIST on a toolbar. Does anyone know what I can do?

Appalled

Want v. Need:

Some of the wee wee contest, I suspect, is negotiation theatrics. Some of it is that the GOP is determined not to have tax increases, and the Democrats are, and that the taxes are likely pretty broad-based.

Like to continue with this, but work calls...

Threadkiller

Where do steadfast Obama supporters go to get a drink?

A tool bar.

boris

If politics is the wrong way to settle political differences maybe we need something like the kind of anarchy where everthing is regulated.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Jane:

New Firefox? Newer than 5.0? When I upgraded, the toolbar was still there. If not, you might have to download it again from Add-ons.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

A tool bar.

Hmmm. I would have said "troll bar."

Ranger

Is making Obama fail the number 1 priority?

Posted by: Want vs Need | July 11, 2011 at 03:21 PM

Well, that assumes that the Republicans have to do anything in particular to make Obama fail. The Republicans are sitting on the default public position (supported by 69% of the adult population) right now of not increasing the Debt Limit.

The simple fact is that Obama and the Democrats put themselves in exactly this position.

In 2006 the Democrats ran a national campaign against the Republicans for profligate overspending and presented themselves (the Dem Party) as the party of fiscal responsibility. Obama himself was part of that campaign, personally calling the need to raise the Debt Limit a "failure of leadership" and voting against it.

But once in power, the Dems relentlessly racheted up spending. In addition, they shoved through two massive spending bills (Porkulus and Obamacare), while expanding the scope of proposed Federal regulations, all of which has stalled the economic recovery, and in the process devistated tax revenue growth.

So, today Obama is running deficits that are at least 3 times the size of the ones he called grossly irresponsible in 2006, and he wants the Republicans (the people he has personally described as his 'enemies') to bail him out by doing something he knows the public doesn't want done.

Given the situation, I think the current speaker's offer of a one for one deal ($1 of debt increase for every $1 of spending cuts) is a pretty generous offer to do something the public doesn't want done in the first place.

Sue

Jane,

As a matter of fact, the guest bedroom is available. It isn't fancy, but it is clean.

DrJ

Jane, if you upgraded to FF 5 from 3.6.x, you have to reinstall the toolbar from Codefishers. Use version 0.1.4.10, as the newer 0.1.4.12 does not work in FF 4 and higher.

narciso

So it looks like Newsweek as of the 19th 'will be an ex magazine, it will cease to be'
as Portfolio found out, there is so much one
can salvage,

cathyf
Some of it is that the GOP is determined not to have tax increases, and the Democrats are, and that the taxes are likely pretty broad-based.
In fact, the Republicans are determined to have the tax increases that come from a growing economy and reducing unemployment, while Democrats are determined to cut tax receipts by driving more businesses out of business and putting more people out of work.
centralcal

Interesting narciso - where did you see that about Newsweek?

Porchlight

Would love to have you in Texas, Jane.

Porchlight

Does that mean Sarah Palin will be on Newsweek's penultimate cover?

I thought that was a pretty decent story on her, all told.

narciso

New York Magazine, it was Porch, then again Boyer, is a pretty decent reporter, he last told of the ghouls on Gifford's staff

centralcal

From the WaPo politics blog:

First lady Michelle Obama ordered a whopper of a meal at the newly opened Washington diner Shake Shack during lunch on Monday.

A Washington Post journalist on the scene confirmed the first lady, who’s made a cause out of child nutrition, ordered a ShackBurger, fries, chocolate shake and a Diet Coke while the street and sidewalk in front of the usually-packed Shake Shack were closed by security during her visit.

According to nutritional information on Shake Shack’s Web site, the meal amounted to 1,556 calories.

Bolding mine. Guess she doesn't have to eat her peas?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Sad. My Mother used to think Newsweek was the quality mag, calling Time the mouthpiece of FDR and his wannabees. What a shame.

Porchlight

Okay narciso, now I am totally confused. Is it New York Magazine that's going out of business? Or Newsweek?

Jane says obamasucks

It's 5.0 and there is no toolbar and no place that I can find to get one.

scott

I just saw a story on Cavuto that Rep. Ryan was accosted by some college Prof. for ordering expensive wine while wanting to cut Medicare. They had to call security to get the guy to leave. No Cleo today...Hmm?

peter

Jane, look at LUN for a tool bar.

Jane says obamasucks

Thanks Dr J, I will try it.

narciso

Newsweek, technically it's being absorbed into the Daily Beast, New York, well they now have Frank Rich, that's gotta count for something, lol.

Charlie (Colorado)

Sarah, that's more or less within rock-throwing distance of where I am now.

pagar

Clarice, My only conclusion is that the IB schools must have changed. Virtually every word I have ever read that you have written seem totally oppose to what I'm told the IB program stands for.

", modern IB students are steeped in fringe science. Even Sudden Infant Death Syndrome is blamed on global warming, for example. Meanwhile, medical breakthroughs such as those discovered through the Human Genome Project are beginning to be used to encourage support for selective breeding in humans. Naturally, kids who don’t even know basic science aren’t aware of this. What they don’t know will make “parent licensing” a lot easier to “sell” when it emerges full-blown in about 10 years — i.e., government deciding who is allowed to become a parent and which children should be aborted."

"When the IB’s public relations publications say the program utilizes a multidisciplinary approach in order to relate various curricula to each other, what kids actually see is mathematics fused with fringe science and environmental extremism"

http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6331-ib-program-is-the-un-on-steroids

rse, I was so glad to read your post on IB since I have agreed with every one of your
posts that I have ever read, it seems. Thank you for your efforts.

Porchlight

Aha, thanks, that's what I thought I'd read somewhere. Well, you can't tell from their webpage with all the subscription ads:

Newsweek: Sarah Palin Plots Her Next Move

It really is a fair article, though the photos are being yelped about as "un-Presidential."

Danube of Thought

Has anyone seen an actual proposal for an entitlement cut?

As I recall, Ryan had a pretty detailed one for Social Security.

Charlie (Colorado)

Pagar, the John Birch Society isn't exactly know for being a terribly reliable source.

Danube of Thought

Yes, the vision that included slavery

False. The founding documents disclose no such vision. Many of the founders--including some slaveholders such as Jefferson--were in favor of proscribing it in the constitution. But had they done so, the slave states would not have ratified the document and there would have been no United States.

The institution of slavery arose on this continent under British rule in what were British colonies. At the time of the revolution it was a long-standing fait accompli. Many of the men creating the new nation strove mightily to abolish it from the very beginning, but avoided the issue for later resolution as the price for establishing a new and independent country.

narciso

Plus, from Amanda Foreman's 'World on Fire'
despite the fact, that Britain had put an end to the slave trade in 1807, they were still strongly commercially tied to the Confederacy.

Clarice

It is not a national program, and if you want a national program the IB is not for you . It may be that in the hands of public schools which are adopting it it is turning to shit but I was affiliated with one of the private ones, designed for international employees, diplomats and corporate folks and the curriculum was first rate as were the teachers. Many were on the liberal side but that didn't affect the curriculum, the grading or the students' views.

MarkO

Slavery? Well, Hitler comments are next.

maryrose

Doesn't obama realize that the minute he starts spewing his lies in front of a microphone that everyone immediately changes the channel? He never makes any real news up there in front of the so-called lapdog reporters.
He and his dem cohorts have of this date 22 days out absolutely NOTHING in writing as to how they will lower the deficit. I propose we recall these inefficient dems and their feckless leader Obama for a failure to lead and govern the country. This entire episode is a black mark on O's administration.
The issue of taxes was settled in the lame duck congress and Obama lost that round. Now he wants a d-over or to take a mulligan on that agreement.

lyle

I just saw a story on Cavuto that Rep. Ryan was accosted by some college Prof. for ordering expensive wine while wanting to cut Medicare.

Taranto had a post on this. It was a women prof who apparently was celebrating her birthday and consumed about a "half-bottle" of wine herself, giving her the alcohol bravery to accost Ryan about his brutish and profligate ways. His table mate had ordered the wine.

Frau Steingehirn

"I think his chronic lateness is anarchy lite."

It's more likely the not-so-subtle finger he gives to those he does not like.

Clarice

Your tax dollars at work:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/07/11/tarantoyour-tax-dollars-at-work/

Thomas Collins

Rse, you may have enough material on the "cultural competency" movement for your book, but see LUN if you are looking for more.

Thomas Collins

I swear I wasn't using your research without attribution, Clarice. I found the article independently and must have been pecking away at my post at the same time you were posting.

Clarice

Isn't that amazing , TC. I bit a close look will find tha uthors of that piece campaigning for Obama . I bet a closer look will find hundreds of examples of b.s. shovel ready projects like this throughout the country.

Frau Steueramt

"Guess who has control of all education loans?"

And guess which half of the country will have to pay for the loans.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Plus, the bottle in question was paid for with private funds, not taxpayer funds. Obama served $399 a bottle wine at his State dinner that we paid for.

Clarice

AHEM

*Isn't that amazing , TC. I bEt a close look will find thE Authors of that HANDBOOK campaigneD for Obama . I bet a closer look will find hundreds of examples of b.s. shovel ready projects like this throughout the country.***

Thomas Collins

Clarice, I guess that is part of Obamanomics. Supply stimulus funds to schools to but cultural competency books, thus stimulating demand for and creating (or, as Biden might say, saving) jobs at printing companies.

Want vs Need

""Well, that assumes that the Republicans have to do anything in particular to make Obama fail."

With all due respect Ranger, is it your position that the Republicans have sat back and watched, or is there a prodigious effort to forstall any success?

I think if you are honest with yourself, you will agree that obstructionism by republicans has been an exercise in fear.

"Fear' being the unthinkable conclusion that progressivism has a place in American Politics, and that moving forward should include at least some of that agenda. It can't all be bad, can it?

Soylent Red

The founding documents disclose no such vision. Many of the founders--including some slaveholders such as Jefferson--were in favor of proscribing it in the constitution. But had they done so, the slave states would not have ratified the document and there would have been no United States.

This is the genesis of the "5/8ths Clause", so commonly cited and misrepresented by those who would make the Founders out to be evil. It was designed to keep slave states from counting slaves as whole citizens in census figures to keep slave states from gaining too much power, and ultimately, codifying slavery into a national institution. Clearly an act by a bunch of evil white men right sylvia?

I guess we don't have to worry about anything else the Constitution says either, since those who wrote it were raaaaaaacist. So I have arranged for a platoon of Marines to be quartered in your house for the next two years sylvia. You need to be out by noon tomorrow.

This entire episode is a black mark on O's administration.

Racist!

Would love to have you in Texas, Jane.

Daddy mentioned secessionist Alaska as a possible new domicile, but I like Texas better if it all comes to that.

Good climate. Pretty women. Good beer. Big enough to hide from bureaucratic interference with the JOM lifestyle.

These are really my main requirements in a new homeland.

rse

It's not the local schools misconstruing the IB program. It is the IB program that is now becoming increasingly aggressive with the schools to push all of the school's students into project learning, no lecturing, discussion rap sessions based on how you feel.

It is dark literature so you can talk about death and incest. Just what hormonally driven teenagers need.

Remember Reagan took us out of UNESCO and George thought it had reformed and rejoined. He is a good man but was not always a wise or well-informed Pres. Revel really tells unbelievable UNESCO stories that will make you want to weep.

The middle school principal declared in May that we now understand that what students know is not important. Her precise words. It is how they feel and what they value on the inside. She believed that was the IB vision so I came home and found she was right. Believe me all political radicals seem to know that 14 is the magic age when it becomes hard to change values, attitudes, and beliefs. They certainly talk about it enough over the decades all over the world. The MYP program is thus calculated to habituate nonanalytical, emotional responses that will be hard to break as an adult. That's not my opinion. It's a paraphrase of their own repeated declarations.

I was asked this spring to comment on why the beloved, well regarded IB Director in what was regarded as a first-rate academic program was involuntarily reassigned to start a program at a different school. Director did not want to change, parents went to school board, but no one would listen. Looking at that decision in the context of the other changes being made at the same time in that out-of-state major school district the pattern became clear.

The director wished to retain the academic emphasis and practices that she, the parents, and students saw as producing solid academic results. Proven, demonstrable track record of success. She was sent to a school where the student population by high school lacked the reading, writing, or logical skills for genuine academic work. Her wishes were thus irrelevant to the most that could be obtained.

Not an isolated incident and consistent with the vision that IB is intended to enable.

Weak academic outcomes are a feature, not a bug of this mindset. I call it intellectual unilateral disarmament and IB is merely one of its current vehicles.

Chubby

Frau

((It's more likely the not-so-subtle finger he gives to those he does not like.))

isn't giving the finger anarchy's basic m/o? apart from their infatuation with thier own imagined brilliance, who or what do they like?

when Obama was voting present, he was throwing pies in the face of the system.

Melinda Romanoff

Chaco-

Here's that other piece I was talking about, I put it out of the country.

Frau Steueramt

"First lady Michelle Obama ordered a whopper of a meal at the newly opened Washington diner Shake Shack during lunch on Monday."

Lord of the Fries?

lyle

Hell hath no fury like a half-drunk self-righteous proggie prof with boorish manners. Ryan's probably too much of a gentleman to say what I would have said to her. Plus, I like the description of how much she'd imbibed. As a bartender many years ago, we had a running joke about how much someone would admit to have been drinking. It was always--ALWAYS--"a couple drinks" when replying. I'd bet cops get the exact same response when they ask a motorist.

Want vs Need

"BTW, if I was given a choice between new and old, I prefer the new cleo."

Testing the waters, but it feels better.

Charlie (Colorado)

With all due respect Ranger, is it your position that the Republicans have sat back and watched, or is there a prodigious effort to forstall any success?

Define "success". Certainly there has been a prodigious effort to forestall attempts to do something Republicans consider wrong and misguided, but no particular effort to forestall things that Republicans consider well-founded.

How else? Are you going to contend that the Democrats didn't attempt to forestall Bush policies they thought ill-considered?

maryrose

Soylent Red:
You are really on a roll today. I agree with your statements. Australia is one of the places to visit on my bucket list.
As to Cleo- life is too short-I leave it to my betters to re-educate him.

Charlie (Colorado)

Testing the waters, but it feels better.

I think everyone involved will have a better time.

pagar

"the John Birch Society isn't exactly know for being a terribly reliable source."

I suppose that is true since I would guess that not a single person who voted for Obama got the information that caused them to vote for him from the John Birch Society.

However, there are 17 million other sources if one uses Google to find "IB schools-UN"

Here's one:
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2010/02/20/school-that-spied-was-un-ib-school/

"More reason why IBO.org should be run out of this country on a rail and not allowed anywhere near our children."

"The FBI will now be getting into the act in Probing this Pa. School’s Webcam Spy Case."

maryrose

Dems actually voted against the troops in Iraq and thie funding. Reps mission in life is to save the country from dems-bad ideas. I agree with Rubio- no bad ideas should be on the table.

Who are those guys, anyway?

That's pretty appalling, mel; are there tracks?
===========

Charlie (Colorado)

I suppose that is true since I would guess that not a single person who voted for Obama got the information that caused them to vote for him from the John Birch Society.

Pagar, I don't know how old you are, but the JBS was pretty nutty when I first was becoming aware of politics in about 1963.

Look, you've got Clarice, who is not only intimately familiar with the IB program but served on the board of an IB school.

Contra that you've got the John Birch Society, and an article saying that the school that did the camera thing had an IB program.

I just find Clarice a bit more believable.

rse

TC-

that was helpful and gave some excellent examples I can use. Thanks so much.

Given what cultural competence is really used for, Edick's quote and the Latino study quote are the meat in that article.

Especially as I just got a 15 year old program report where it turns out Frau's friend LDH was quite graphic about what she really envisions. And the minutes of the 1987 Democracy through Language conference came over the weekend.

A veritable cornucopia of bad but related ideas.

Frau Steueramt

Fear? That's used by many. I think of Dems' being told and then repeating that they will lose abortion, all entitlements old and new that are now "part of the fabric of our country," sexual freedoms and freedom of speech not to mention freedom from guns.

Read David Mamet's articles or new book. Who was it who pointed out that Republicans are supposed to want to regulate what is done in the bedroom, and the Democrats want to control what happens in the rest of the house and outside, too. LUN

Why is it that poor MS has been the most charitable of all the states in helping others? Germans are not very charitable: they expect Father State to do it for them.

JM Hanes

Want/Need:

"The "Peoples Budget" presented by Dems in April would, theoretically tame the deficit in 10 years vs Ryan's 25 years."

By "Dems" I presume you mean the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and by "presented," I presume you mean standing around on the sidewalk. Here's their actual 2012 Plan, in case anyone is more interested in looking at it than Democratic leadership was. They never got close enough to bother backing up. Or maybe they were running away from their own President's budget so fast, they just missed it in passing.

Republicans actually had the guts to pass Ryan's proposal in the House, which Democrats have been demagoguing for not getting the deficit/debt under control fast enough and pushing granny off the cliff at the same time. You may not like the Republicans' ideas, but on the budget front, don't pretend that Democrats have tried to pass anything other other than the buck, even when they controlled both houses of Congress & the White House. Their table is set with nothing but an Obama speech which was too risible for the CBO to waste their time even reading.

boris

whose a good boy ... nice doggy ....

Hey its a professor of political psychology not one of Pavlov's dogs.

Of course the Dems opposed GWB.

Of course the GOP opposes Obama.

Notice the framing that it's bad when the GOP does it.

just another progressive

Yes, Frau there are numerous agendas to control behavior. I suspect you agree with some controls(sexual, moral) and oppose others
(firearms, ammo,)

Who shall be the mediator, ombudsman?

You, or me? Or, You and I?

Charlie (Colorado)

You, or me? Or, You and I?

You or me.

rse

charlie-

I am not getting my info from the John Birch Society. Heck, one of my claims to fame in high school was being asked to leave Congressman Larry McDonald's DC office for asking him a question he did not like. It was quite respectful and well informed but I had tied together relevant facts in a way he did not appreciate.

I respect Clarice immensely but her experience is dangerously irrelevant to where IB is right now. That's the relevant question for parents, taxpayers, and politicians. Plus IB 's program now is part of a clearly defined template I have tracked back through the decades, all over the world, and to original statements of purpose.

When I research something my standard is proof sufficient for summary judgment using their own words. If cannot prove something yet I will say "I think this is connected but I cannot prove it yet".

boris

Youse or myself

Jack is Back!

Re: IB schools.

The first world-wide IB schools of note were United World Colleges. My wife graduated 1979 from Atlantic College of UWC in Llawint Major, Wales at St. Donat's Castle which William Randolph Hearst bought and renvovated for Marian Davies. She spend 3 nights there and say "see ya". Grand place. It was for her a terrific education both physical and mental. Kids from all over the world that are friends to this day. Very leftist faculty but also some strong right thinkers in the mix. Most grads go on to some amazing careers. Among her friends are noted heart surgeons, innovators in treating cervical cancer, the ex-CEO of Nokia, the Secretary to Cardinal Dineen in Belgium (now an Abbot of a monastery), writers, World Bank VP's, entrepreneurs in Nordic countries, business people around the globe. All I have met are very educated, informed, happy and producers versus moochers.

Her graduating class all attended university and beyond - grad school, medicine, law, economics, etc. From what I have seen it is a viable alternative to honors programs and advanced placements. How political it has got under a UN sanction is not something I can speak to but we have in our public school here in Florida and it seems to produce well rounded college bound kids.

want vs Need

"Their table is set with nothing but an Obama speech which was too risible for the CBO to waste their time even reading."

So what's the road forward, JMH?

Ignatz

--Testing the waters, but it feels better.--

Don't know if the detente will last, I hope it does, but I wanted to thank you for at least making the effort.
I will respond in kind and I hope others will also.

Frau Steueramt

"Ahhh yes, the good old days. If only we could go back to those times."

You can. The Altgeld Gardens has vacancies. You'll love Chicago.

DrJ

OT, but yesterday was a glorious one. Not only did the charming MrsJ have her birthday, duely celebrated, but the government elephant finally moved.

I mentioned some time ago that I had completed negotiating my indirect rate (namely, overhead) for one grant I have, so that these real costs can be recovered from the grant.

Well. First I had to sign a letter agreeing to that rate. That took a month to belch from the system. Then the award had to be redrawn to include the new rate. That took another month.

So last night here, or early today on the east coat, I received email notification that all of this nonsense had been completed. The new award amount was calculated properly too.

The negotiation part only took a few months. Lags on getting approvals or having paperwork drawn or executed took about six months.

And this is what some want for our health care? No, thank you very much.

JM Hanes

"So what's the road forward, JMH?"

The 2012 elections.

Chubby

once upon a time, a little girl named Lucy and a little boy named Charlie Brown went out to play a game of football...

want vs Need

"I will respond in kind and I hope others will also"

My thanks, Iggy. But HR is the true diplomat and I want to give my homage to that gentleman.

want vs Need

"The 2012 elections."

An honest man. Obstruct Obama ; the prime directive.

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