"A Carousel Of Liberal Opinion"

I assume MSNBC will take that as a compliment.  And then resume bashing Faux News.

Comments

[Jack is Back!]

Can I ride the unicorn?

[Appalled]

MSNBC serves a function. There's nothing wrong wth bias that's openly stated, because someone can take their personal grains of salt on what's said. Hidden bias successfully disguised as objectivity is a problem.

That said, I'm not watching. I have lots of movies recorded from TCM I need to get through.

[NK]

I agree with Appalled-- MSNBC is an open advocay shop for 'progressive' politics and the Dem party. All's fair. 'Course that's why nobody watches MSNBC. The real villains are the ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN, NYT, WAPO, Time and Fox etc etc that lie about 'fairness'. Everyone has bias, organizations have an agenda. To claim otherwise is a lie-- always has been.

[Sue]

I don't have a problem with their pundits being liberal or nutty, both most of the time. I have a problem with their "news" people being liberal or nutty, both most of the time.

I think the actual news people at Fox would be at home on any news station. Think Major Garrett. Steve Harrigan.

[PD]

The real villains are the ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN, NYT, WAPO, Time and Fox etc etc that lie about 'fairness'.

I disagree, a bit.

Although I have a conservative bias, I think FOX really *is* more fair than the others, particularly in the news coverage (as opposed to the opinion shows). I believe that FOX more often covers two sides of stories than the others, and regularly brings out aspects of stories that the other bury because it doesn't fit their agenda.

Even the opinion shows, such as Hannity, more often feature guests from "the opposition" than such shows on other networks.

As for CNN's "Most trusted name in news," feh.

[Janet]

Hidden bias successfully disguised as objectivity is a problem.

Totally agree.

[MarkO]

Then, it's likely that MSNBC will follow the lead of the carousel in Hitchcock's "Strangers on a Train."

For your viewing enjoyment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ACQveD9ac

[Ignatz]

--Can I ride the unicorn?--

Sorry Jack.
Andy Sullivan has it reserved.

[Sue]

Ewwww...bad imagery, Iggy.

[Sue]

BREAKING: Palin's participation in Saturday's Tea Party of America rally is "on hold," 2 sources close to Palin tell RCP

Tweeted by RealClearScott.

Wonder what's up?

[OldTimer]

Reasonable people with basic common sense find "liberal opinion" always wrong when compared to facts; childish in its suppositions, and dangerous when forced upon societies. Truth and facts are not important to liberals.

Case in point (and this sort of thing is common with lib media):

http://twitpic.com/6aqxo8

[narciso]

It's clear that MSNBC has a leftist agenda, I've called it Air America TV, but their refusal to report on reality, is the cincher.

[Sue]

Twitter tells me Obama is speechifying again. All together now...how low can he go? -30? Heck yeah!

[Sue]

OT,

LOL.

[narciso]

This seems to be the context behind the decision, Sue:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/08/31/sarah-palin-cancels-appearance-at-tea-party-rally-in-iowa/

[Extraneus]

Here's a great interactive map of the ME and North Africa. I defy anyone not to remember the countries after 15 tries.

[NK]

PD-- don't disagree with you that FOXNEWS is less worse. But 15 years ago Roger Ailes had an agenda-- capture millions of viewers that were turned off by the liberal media hegemony with center-right programming. As a business FOXNEWS has been spectacularly successful. As center-right advocacy programing, it has been fairly successful.

[Captain Hate]

Maybe SP agrees with me that the entire state of Iowa needs to be turned into green glass (politically speaking, of course).

[Extraneus]

These continually screwed-up appearance announcements and invitations are pretty amateurish.

[Danube of Thought]

Having a bit of trouble posting from the ranch, but will try again to celebrate today's Raz.

[Ranger]

Somewhat off topic, but I am starting to think that the rally in the stock market this week is tied to Obama's falling poll numbers.

[narciso]

You want irony, they had Ezekiel Emmanuel, on Morning Joke, this morning, he's no longer with the White House, heading the medical ethics center at Penn,

[Danube of Thought]

42.8% approve, 53.4% disapprove; minus 10.6 in the RCP average. I believe all three numbers are records.

Wahoo!

[centralcal]

Oh my, the media is writhing and frothing at the mouth on Twitter. Throwing around the eff word. How dare Sarah change her plans!

Is it possible, Ext, that the Tea Party organization is the one screwing up?

[centralcal]

Nice to see ya DoT. Hope you are having fun in Montana!

[narciso]

She needs to give an explanation, but one of the organizers was badmouthing her in the local cribsheets, the Iowa Republican.

[centralcal]

You know, narciso and Extraneus, this is good advice from someone I never heard of on Twitter:

Modified Bruce Rule: If a report about Sarah Palin seems wrong, wait at least 48 minutes before assuming it's true.

[centralcal]

More, from another Twitterer (is that a word?):

Don't accept as gospel any news regarding Gov. Palin where the sources are not proper nouns.

[Jim Ryan]

Medical ethics is neither medical nor ethics.

[PD]

DoT, whereabouts in Montana are you? We'll be at Seeley Lake next week.

[MarkO]

Posting from "the ranch," eh? Want in on that "Further Adventures of Spin, Marty and Dot?"

[narciso]

I know Jim, I have expect they would give
Victor Frankenstein, one of those medical
ethics chairs.

[hit and run]

Ras...

12th time overall and 3rd time this year Obama has been at 42% Total Approval or lower.

(at least this time Ras didn't make the mistake of saying Obama has only been at 41% once before)

10th time overall and 3rd time this year he has been at 57% Total Disapproval or higher.

19th time overall and 2nd time this year Obama has been -2 or lower when subtracting Strong Disapproval from Total Disapproval.

[matt]

Am jealous, DoT. Was hoping to get up there this summer.

I think this is all a plot by the Secret Tea Party World Headquarters to make the liberals heads explode.

We now have the spectacle of African - American Cong. Andre Carson (D-Idiot) saying:

" some in Congress would “love to see us as second-class citizens” and “some of them in Congress right now of this tea party movement would love to see you and me ... hanging on a tree.”

There really is no end to their demagoguery. We are racists, Jim Crows, Klanners, and all around not nice people for advocating responsibility and gravitas.

Let's buy them diapers and ass wipes because these are the most infantile bunch of fools in history. I feel as if I'm back when the kids were babies and I'm cleaning up puke on the floor.

Have a nice day, Congressman Carson.

[Chubby]

((BREAKING: Palin's participation in Saturday's Tea Party of America rally is "on hold," 2 sources close to Palin tell RCP))

I wonder if it has anything to do, one way or another, with the disinvitation of Christine O'Donnell, who was scheduled to speak just before her.

[hit and run]

Would love to stay and chat,but methinks I shall go meet Elliott instead.

[Extraneus]

Don't accept as gospel any news regarding Gov. Palin where the sources are not proper nouns.

Point taken.

[Captain Hate]

Medical ethics is neither medical nor ethics.

The industry that's let itself be co-opted by the nanny state into assuming guilt in questionable situations "for the children"? The deuce you say.

[Chubby]

((the most infantile bunch of fools in history))

and morally bereft.

if contemporary libbies, who are not classical liberals, obeyed the Commandment, "Thou shalt not covet" it would put an end to current-day liberalism, which is covetous through and through.

[Captain Hate]

" some in Congress would “love to see us as second-class citizens” and “some of them in Congress right now of this tea party movement would love to see you and me ... hanging on a tree.”

Somebody in the stoopid party needs to call out this imbecile and tell him to name names or shut his simple yap. These lies will continue until this lying POS has to substantiate his spurious garbage. Where are the people to stand up against this crap?

[Extraneus]

Did you see the video, Captain? It ain't just him. The race hustlers are restless.

[narciso]

Journalism is not only dead, it's gone zombie:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/palins-saturday-speech-still-on-tea-party-founder-says/

[Chubby]

((Where are the people to stand up against this crap?))

exactly. it reminds me of the Bush years when Bush never fought back against the lies with truth

[Janet]

I'll just point out again that Rep. Andre Carson was one of the liars about the March 20th Tea Party.
Reps. Andre Carson, John Lewis, Emanuel Cleaver, & James Clyburn.
They coordinated with the MFM to manufacture a story. It was all a lie. They had to lie to make a racist story....couldn't even find a real one!

[Captain Hate]

Per Laura Ingraham just aired a clip of Allen West responding to it but I'm tired of him being the only one willing to stand up against this. He's had his own problems with that gaggle of imbeciles ordering him to apologize to that filthy haired ignoramus in an adjoining district. The clean toga crowd is happy to sit back and let the tea party take its lumps. Being silent against this blatant bigotry is signing off on it.

[centralcal]

Sheesh, Obummer is asking Boehner for a speech to joint session of Congress at exactly same time as NBC/Politico debate.

Since, NBC and Politico are after ratings and are Obummer butt kissers, I expect they will prevail in convincing him to choose another date.

[Extraneus]

Rush starting off with our buddy Andre.

[narciso]

Well we know how low they can go, Jennifer Daskal, who chose to ignore KSM's confession, and naturally was scooped up
by Holder's Justice Department

[Captain Hate]

Btw if Romney wanted to get his campaign back among the living, he'd come out strongly against that before anybody else does. It's a perfect opportunity for somebody who is justly accused of being a flip-flop to make a strong statement.

[Jack is Back!]

Cheney writes a book where he predicts "heads will explode" but Palin does nothing and "heads do explode". As Frederick tells me, he wants to be a scientist known as Doctor Kaboom.

That's a great new nickname for Sarah. Madame Kaboom!

[PD]

The industry that's let itself be co-opted by the nanny state into assuming guilt in questionable situations "for the children"? The deuce you say.

I mentioned last week that I'd escorted my sweetie for her colonoscopy. Prior to this there is a phone interview. One of the questions: "Are you in an abusive relationship?"

What that has to do with a colonoscopy, I have no idea. And they did not ask me, a male, that question last year when I had mine. What infuriates me is that this is a lose-lose proposition. If a woman asked this says, "that is none of your business," it makes the man in the relationship look guilty.

[PD]

Well we know how low they can go

Just wait. There is no basement for these people.

[Chubby]

reading between the lines from narciso's link: does this mean that Palin threatened to no show if Christine was disinvited? so to get Palin to show, the organizers had to reinvite Christine?

((Multiple media outlets reported this morning that Palin had backed out of the “Restoring America” event, but still planned to be in Iowa on Saturday. The rally’s undergone a lot of upheaval this week: Failed Delaware Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell was invited to speak before Palin, then had the invitation rescinded, and on Tuesday night, “humbly re-accepted the re-invitation” to speak, according to her Twitter account.

Crow called the handling of O’Donnell a “mistake.”
))

[Chubby]

I hope my reading between the lines of narciso's link is correct because my first reaction to reading that Christine had been disinvited was to wonder if Palin had something to do with it, which was my first potentially serious disappointment in her, thinking her mind perhaps had been infiltrated by wanton Rovian mind darts.

[narciso]

We have seen one depth of their perfidy, the way they sought to fit the Tea Party with 'the bloody shirt' after Tucson.

[Chubby]

((he wants to be a scientist known as Doctor Kaboom))

:) great idea for a kid's show -- mad child scientist blowing up things in the lab -- with an educational purpose, of course, lol

[daddy]

2nd ADN Oil Related Story;

Escopeta Oil and Gas Co. faces possible Federal Fine for Violation of The Jones Act.

This is the continuing saga of the Jack-Up Oil Rig, hauled from the Gulf around the tip of South America to Alaska. It was stalled in Limbo in Canada awaiting approval from our Government for its initial approved Jones Act Waiver, then denied a second one after Napolitano said they should ask for a new one.

As near as I can figure, the Jones Act maintains that even when the Rig left the Gulf of Mexico, it had to have been on a US flagged ship even if it was stopping in Canada, so officials are now looking to try to fine them for that part of the journey north.

"The Jones Act requires cargoes moved between U.S. ports to be in American-built and -operated vessels even if the voyage is broken with a stop at a foreign port, as occurred with the Blake 151 movement."

The head of Escopeta has stepped down as a result of the Bruhaha.

Re the Jones Act, just last week I linked a story similar to this one, about the President waiving the Jones Act 46 times 2 months back to ship Oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve on foreign ships, for political reasons.

It is obvious that the Feds and the Enviro' don't want any drilling done in Cook Inlet and they don't want this Drill Rig up here. It also surprises me, (but it shouldn't) that the Alaskan Senator standing up for Escopeta Drilling, is Dem Mark Begich. Lisa appears absent from the fray.

I know I don't know all the facts and I don't trust my ADN, but the State also appears to be mad at the Drillers for not complying with Corp of Engineer Regulations, but the Corp of Engineers say the Rig has complied with their Regulations.

The main thing I take from this is that if Escopeta had any sense they'd sign a deal with Putin and the Russians also and just tell the Feds to shove their Jones Act where the sun don't shine.

Off with the boys to bar-hop Singapore.

If anyone can figure all this out, please let me know. Cheers.

[Porchlight]

I got the impression it was Palin who didn't want O'Donnell to speak, because the rumor of Palin's potential no-show came after, rather than before, the "re-invitation" to O'Donnell. But no reporting about Palin can be trusted worth a damn until it's been confirmed five different ways. Some of these screwups may be her fault, but I think more often it's just the insanity of the rumor mill where she is concerned.

Regarding the organizing of the event, it's okay with me if grassroots operations aren't always flawlessly run - feature not bug imho.

[Jane]

PD, at my hospital they ask if there is anyone you are afraid of. I always answer the same way: "Barack Obama".

[Neo]

All of this may boost the standing of Messrs. Perez and Halperin in the Obama administration. It's less good for the rest of us. These settlements include requirements that banks lend to minorities at below-market rates and, in effect, dish out cash to politically favored "community groups." It's a good bet that many of these loans will eventually go bad.

[Ranger]

So, how small does Obama look trying to knock the Republican debate off the air?

[Dave (in MA)]

What'd I miss?

[Janet]

PD, at my hospital they ask if there is anyone you are afraid of. I always answer the same way: "Barack Obama".

Hahahah...reminds me of Ann writing that when they asked her who the President was she answered, "Osama". Hahhaahaha...ya'll are too funny!

[Jack is Back!]

Since I am now a racist according to the CBC, then what do you call Miss Maxy and her rant? Is she the poster girl for the dependency nation or entitlement universe? If the CBC was truly concerned about the effect of government, or the reduction of it, on its constituents then perhaps they need to provide a better education to those they want to serve. LUN

[Captain Hate]

PD, a friend of mine had a young teenaged son almost die because of a broken major blood vessel in his head that was freakishly damaged through mild horseplay with his sister. The mother's life, while dealing with having her son in an induced coma, was turned upside down by the nanny staters accusing her of beating her child.

We are so far away from the state not intruding in the lives of innocent citizens just trying to live their lives unimpeded.

[(Another) Barbara]

PD, at my hospital they ask if there is anyone you are afraid of. I always answer the same way: "Barack Obama".

Oh Jane, you're the best! I'm going to steal that. LOL

By the way, there are signs going up all over commercial and residential neighborhoods here, preaching "We will no longer tolerate Domestic Violence" and "If you are a victim, report Domestic Violence. Is this just a Hawaii thing, or is this the case across the nation? If you were a tourist driving around here you'd have the impression that the men of 'Paradise' must be beasts.

[Neo]

An Ohio woman and her boyfriend can sue a laptop-tracking company that recorded their sexually explicit communications in an effort to identify thieves who stole the computer the woman was using.

U.S. District Judge Walter Rice ruled last week against Absolute Software, which provides software and services for tracking stolen computers. Absolute sought a summary judgment in its favor, insisting that one of its theft recovery agents acted properly when he captured sexually explicit images of Susan Clements-Jeffrey communicating via webcam with her boyfriend and passed them to police in an effort to recover the stolen computer.

But the judge found that there were grounds to believe Absolute had gone too far, and that a jury might reasonably decide that it had violated the plaintiffs’ privacy and broken the law. The case raises an important issue about the length that someone can legally go to recover stolen goods.

[centralcal]

OMG - Obama and his dumb as a rock Press Secretary are firmly ensconced in a completely surreal alternate reality:

Carney said that Obama had chosen to speak directly to Congress in hopes that members had been chastened and softened after hearing from angry constituents over the August break.

LMAO. Oh, they're angry all right - at Obama.

[Captain Hate]

Reading the comments in Neo's link to Wired points out what geeks read that garbage publication

[Captain Hate]

Was Eric Stoltz chosen for the job because having run Time into the toilet he had no credibility to squander by doing El JEFe's mindless bidding?

[Clarice]

The push to find sex abuse everywhere is paid for by you. The local health authorities kept calling me when I insisted I had never bee until I repeatedly told them where to stuff it. Every time I said no they asked if I was alone and whether there was anyone home scaring me. I suspect the all men are beasts drive is affecting the allocation of local le and prosecutorial operationstoo

[centralcal]

Clarice - be sure to check in at MOTUS - your grand jury duty is a big focus of today's blog.

[Clarice]

I saw,cc. Unfortunately I'm hearing aggravated assault,sex crimes ,robberies and murders, not White House wrongdoings.

[Jane]

I cannot believe that moron scheduled his little talk during the republican debate. I hope Boehner says "No the House is busy at that hour". He is such a petulant thug. I bet the only thing he gets involved with on a day to day basis is how to "get the republicans".

[Dave (in MA)]

They should switch the debate format to a Mystery Science Theater-style running commentary on Jughead's speech, with all of the candidates commenting live on his BS.

[henry]

Boehner should say "the house is busy until 10 days after you publicly disclose the enacting legislation for your plan."

[Captain Hate]

Dave that would be a stroke of genius; which means that the party of stoopid won't even consider it.

[Sue]

Our man-child president is acting like a man-child. Dog bites man. Stories at 6:00 and 10:00.

[Jack is Back!]

Are all these phone calls being funded by the stimulus?

The reason I ask is that I got a call the other day from the National Marine Fisheries Agency and after asking my name and if I lived in Flagler County, Florida, they wanted to know if I fished (yes), then they wanted to know how many people lived in my house, (none of your business and what does that have to do with fishing?), to which they thanked me for my time and hung up. IOW, we have people on the Federal Families payroll with nothing better to do and find out how many people in a single household fish.

I guess the Census Dept. forgot to put that question on the latest census and the NMFA is making up for that discrepancy.

[Sue]

What you want to bet MSNBC and Politico move their debate without input from the candidates?

[Jim Ryan]

Is the CEO of Gibson a pathological liar (in saying that the wood is demonstrably legal) or is the Obama Administration engaging in a more fascist bullying?

How many cases can we let pass by with an "I'm sure there is some explanation" before we are forced to accept that the Democratic leadership is fascistic?

[centralcal]

If FNC were hosting the debate, they would delay airing for an hour and then the usual Republican rebuttal, could be the candidates.

But, since it is NBC/Politico, they will probably just kowtow to their Lord and Master.

[PD]

Was Eric Stoltz chosen for the job because having run Time into the toilet he had no credibility to squander by doing El JEFe's mindless bidding?

huh?

[NK]

Jane -- disagree with you here. NOBODY will listen to the Obamaniac, even Libs tune him out now. Let him have his talk. THEN Marco Rubio delivers a quick 'this is all wrong talk' and says that he will work with Senate Dems to pass the House Reg repeal and jobs bills. THEN the Repub candidiates all explain why the Obamaniac is all wrong while Indy voters are watching.

Lose-Lose for zero.

[Jack is Back!]

Sue,

Then the candidates should refuse and move on (no pun intended).

Its going to be a "gothcha" debate to begin with and this is a perfect opportunity to back out with a legitimate excuse. No matter how tough and straight talking you are (Perry) or how smart you are (Gingrich) or how cantankerous you are (Paul) these mutts at PMSNBC will find a way to make you look weak, dumb and stuttering.

Be prepared to answer at least 5 of Keller's questions before you're even asked about whether you still beat your wife or husband.

[Captain Hate]

Jay Carney == Eric Stoltz

[Jane]

I agree JIB. They should refuse an MSNBC sponsored debate.

[Captain Hate]

Yes Jane; the DNC refuses to let Fox sponsor a debate. Why should the party of stoopid not play the same game. They have a clear precedent to justify it.

[centralcal]

The Anchoress has a great post about why Boehner should let Obama speak before the GOP debate:

What the GOP needs to remember is that the Democrats no longer govern; they just maneuver, and they do it brilliantly. The GOP needs to learn how to do it.

[pagar]

"is anyone you are afraid of."

from Michael Moore "Why do you have a gun? What are you afraid of? What is that thing that we’re afraid of that we want to have a gun in the house?"

"But here’s the real kicker: Michael Moore has bodyguards and his bodyguards are armed."

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet]

ISTM ElJefe's joint session jobs speech gives the GOP candidates an opportunity to beat up on what is sure to be an inane message instead of each other.

[Jane]

What time is the moron's speech?

[Dave (in MA)]

Will Jughead be mentioning Solyndra in his jobs planspeech?

[centralcal]

Jane - 8 ET and 5 PT

[Captain Hate]

Tammy Bruce just said Palin will be at Tea Party rally

[Jane]

So the debate can start at 9:00

And they can laugh at him.

[centralcal]

The more I think about it, Jane, the more I think this maneuver will backfire. Each of Oblamer's speeches have shown a steady decline in viewers. His poll numbers are also in major decline. His "speeches" are boring, petty, crapola. He doesn't have a clue what to do about the economy or how to create even one job.

Plus, he stabs NBC and Politico in the back - and they will accept the wound because they are sycophants.

[glasater]

This is a real dilemma for NBC. Have the debate after Zero's speech? I don't think so--too much ammunition for the candidates.

[narciso]

The fact that Fox of all people, lingered on the Ephesians question, for even
a fraction of a second, while
Europe in melting down, Salafism is on the march, and
we are mired in this economic
quagmire, tells you what a joke these debates have become

[Dave (in MA)]

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