9/11 Ten Years On

Here is George Bush speaking at the United 93 memorial in Pennsylvania.  Since no one is going to top the Gettysburg memorial address, Bush ends up quoting it.

Today Mayor Bloomberg will lead a memorial service at Ground Zero that will not include New York's Bravest.

Comments

[bunky]

The demonized Bush from the get. I can't watch the fraudulent coverage.

[Clarice]

No clergy either for Mayor B, supporter of the Ground Zero mosque. to paraphrase a Hoover song,"Mr. we could use a Mayor like Koch again."

[peter]

As time goes on, these commerative services with plastic politicians leading them, sanitized of any references to God, or to evil will become more transparently shallow. Just as the wax on Obama's wings has started to melt.

[Janet]

Here is one of the harder videos to watch - Jumpers. Don't Look Away - Honor Them.

[peter]

COMMEMORATIVE

[Chubby]

((The demonized Bush from the get. I can't watch the fraudulent coverage))

At the end of his speech I was torn between tears at the standing ovation and disgust watching Joe Biden, Democrat politican and hypocrite supreme, shaking his hand.

[Janet]

This video/audio tribute is very good too. I watch it every 9-11. Set to Jo Dee Messina's Bring On the Rain.

[bunky]

Not rebuilding the Twin Towers was a huge mistake. I have always thought that was a concession to failure and weakness.

[Janet]

Me too, bunky.

[Jane]

I opted for the tears Chubby. I'm not a cryer. Well until yesterday.

[peter]

My story of what I remember of September 11 is not terribly interesting. I was horrified, just as everyone else I knew was. What I do recall is the unspoken thought that as it was unfolding, many of us knew that we were susceptible to these kinds of attacks. Our borders were open, our existing laws were not being enforced, our military had been stripped of much funding, our media had already turned so many of our minds to politically correct pabulum. The fighters sent to scramble had to come all the way from Cape Cod, for goodness' sake, because all of the military bases in the New York City area had been closed. Like a drunk on a bender winding up in a police car after driving into a tree, we were note all terriblly surprised that our vulnarabilites had been exploited.
Terrific Clarice's pieces today, at the LUN. The anthrax attacks have been largely put out of the memory of the public consciousness. In my view, they were an important factor that led us to invading Iraq.

[narciso]

Not just that,Chubby, the way they openly took the side of Zubeydah, KSM, and against
the brave men and women, that sought to discover what future plots they were planning, it's just sickening, the denialists
(some call them Truthers) are the worst manifestation of this.

[Jane]

OMG, Obama is speaking without a teleprompter - I think it is a prayer, but he makes no sense. Poor thang.

[Jane]

He just said: "Be still and know I am God. The God of jacob is with you"

Iggy, Janet? What's that about?

[centralcal]

Even when he reads scripture, his cadence is awful and his emphasis misplaced. If you don't listen to the words, it sounds like any of his speeches - except less energetic. A beautiful passage, but devoid of feeling when read by him.

[centralcal]

Jane, he read Psalm 46.

[Janet]

Extraneus linked Mark Steyn's Let's Roll Over on the other thread. A bit -

"Mayor Bloomberg’s office has patiently explained, there’s “not enough room” at the official Ground Zero commemoration to accommodate any firemen. “Which is kind of weird,” wrote the Canadian blogger Kathy Shaidle, “since 343 of them managed to fit into the exact same space ten years ago.”"

[Chubby]

Psalm 46

Since the popular trend, supported in full by Democrats, is to erase all reminders of the Judeo-Christian God from public display, and all forms of public worship, Psalm 46 is a very odd choice:

7 The LORD Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.

8 Come and see what the LORD has done,
the desolations he has brought on the earth.
9 He makes wars cease
to the ends of the earth.
He breaks the bow and shatters the spear;
he burns the shields[d] with fire.
10 He says, “Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth.”

(NIV)

[MaryD]

Chubby, it seems a very odd choice for a 9/11 commemoration. Am I missing something?

[Sandy Daze]

(cross post)

I fly Old Glory Full Staff 24/7/365 illuminated at night. Here she is this morning:

On occasion, I will H/S, on Memorial Day or when for instance when the home team was shot down on 6 August.

For about eight months in 2009-2010 I flew Old Glory upside down as the TRAITOR IN CHIEF rammed through his agenda.

Today She stands F/S in full honor of America and great Americans like Todd Beamer.

It's been a helluva decade, trying to fight Islamic Supremacists on one hand, while the TRAITOR fights to destroy the very country that gave him his opportunities.

Since it is Sunday, to paraphrase Rev Wright:

"I do not say God Bless Obama, I say God-DAMN Obama"

To quote Todd Beamer:

"Let's Roll !"

Take good care,
Sandy

[Jane]

Bush was cheered before and after his words (he quoted the new founder of the republican party, Abraham Lincoln. I hope Bambi doesn't demand his execution.

[jimmyk]

Thanks, Clarice, for capturing my feelings about how the soft left has tried to co-opt this date. I don't even like all the mourning rituals and ceremony. The tone of the day should be one of strengthening our resolve to fight the forces of evil. Barry and Michelle's donning of aprons and ladling out soup in a soup kitchen was the latest in a string of humiliations.

[Porchlight]

My 17 month old just somehow changed the channel from SpongeBob to 9/11 anniversary coverage on Fox News. Guess he has his priorities straight.

I don't agree, but I can somewhat understand the argument behind no clergy at the 9/11 commemoration. I suspect Bloomy felt he'd have to invite an imam of some sort b/c of pressure from Muslim groups, and that would blow up in his face. Stupid but somewhat comprehensible. But no rescue workers? I seriously don't get that at all.

[Melinda Romanoff]

There's a viral attempt to try and drown out Bloomberg's speech with "Amazing Grace". I wonder how viral it got.

Clarice-

Excellent deconstruction. It really does make you wonder who thought up that push back by the Organized Left.

[centralcal]

The cheers were quite audible, Jane. Wonder if Michelle frowned, lowered her eyelids and shook her head, like she did at the end of her hubby's speech before Congress?

Once again she exhibits her own lack of dignity - although lightly covered with a bolero style jacket, her dress is sleeveless (of course) and has a plunging V-neckline in the back. I am sure she will remove the jacket at the earliest opportunity for the photographers.

[narciso]

This is the Context of those verses:

http://www.christnotes.org/commentary.php?com=mhc&b=19&c=46

[Extraneus]

I agree, jimmyk. Just watching a video or two of the people jumping is a more important remembrance than any politician's words. I thought Herman Cain's video was good, too, especially because of the images of the people's pictures posted at the site.

I was at the WTC two or three days after 9/11. In the gloom, people would walk up to you with flyers picturing a loved one and ask, "Have you seen my husband?" or "Have you seen my daughter?" The flyers were plastered everywhere.

[Jim Ryan]

Our guys who died and got grievously injured overseas in the last ten years have prevented a second attack on the homeland during that time.

[Specter]

Here is an ad from Budweiser they only aired one time. Take a look.

Let's take another moment to remember all the victims (including all of us indirectly)and to tip our hats to all of the service people who have taken the war to the scum who perpetrated this.

We can't lose focus on what happened...we can't lose our resolve to finish this. We didn't start it.

[Jane]

What is with Joe Biden's face?

[Porchlight]

I thought it was an odd choice, too, Chubby.

[narciso]

From another commentary, on the passages:

Verse 8 tells us that God has done surprising things in the earth. These are things that not only surprise us (because we did not think that they would happen) but also make us a bit afraid. Verse 9 tells us that God stopped the *war. Verse 10 tells us that God spoke to the people that were fighting just as a parent speaks to *noisy children. (*Noisy means "making a lot of noise".) It is as if God said, "I am your leader. Stop all this noise". The end of verse 10 means two things. In the time of the *psalmist it meant that God would make people see that he was "the *Most High". For Christians it means that they lifted God high on the cross of Calvary to make everybody see what he was doing. Those that wanted Jesus to save them would then come to him. (They killed Jesus on the cross of Calvary.)

[centralcal]

Taken in its entirety from Jammie Wearing Fool blog:

Hard to believe the New York Times even mentioned this.

At 9:03, the readers fell silent and the silver bell rang twice to mark the time that United Airlines flight 175 crashed into the South Tower.

Former President George W. Bush took his place behind the same lectern with the presidential seal where Mr. Obama had just stood.

Unlike Mr. Obama, Mr. Bush drew a brief cheer from the crowd before his reading.

Applause followed Mr. Bush as he left the stage.

[Porchlight]

Thanks for that link, Specter - I hadn't seen it.

[Janet]

I don't even like all the mourning rituals and ceremony. The tone of the day should be one of strengthening our resolve to fight the forces of evil.

I totally agree, jimmyk.

[Chubby]

Clarice, thanks for your your pieces which hit all the right notes perfectly.

[centralcal]

Also from JWF, an excerpt from Paul Effer Krugman today:

What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. Te atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

Typos in original. May this bastard someday rot in hell.

[Janet]

A prayer posted on one of my FB friends home page -

"As 9/11 approaches, I would like to share this prayer: Now I lay me down to sleep, one less terrorist this world does keep, with all my heart I give my thanks, to those in uniform regardless of their rank. You serve our country and serve it well, with humble hearts your stories tell. So as I rest my weary eyes, while freedom rings our flag still flies. You give your all, do what you must, with God we live & In God we trust AMEN!"

[obamabites]

Since the popular trend, supported in full by Democrats, is to erase all reminders of the Judeo-Christian God from public display, and all forms of public worship, Psalm 46 is a very odd choice:

I can see how Obama might think it appropriate:

The LORD Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.

Jews are to blame for your loss on Sept 11

He makes wars cease
to the ends of the earth.
He breaks the bow and shatters the spear;
he burns the shields[d] with fire.

Israel better quit attacking my people

He says, “Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth.”

You can't fight the rise of Islam throughout the world. Keep trying and there will be more holes in the ground just like this.

[Janet]

A question for Krugman...Who do you want to unify?
signed, Rich White Trash

[Melinda Romanoff]

Oh, a seagull.

[Chubby]

cc

((--and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not--))

the above statement is proof positive of his profound stupidity and error

[Jane]

Krugman should rot in hell. Plus he's a racist.

I bet he is a truther too.

[Captain Hate]

Incredible that the self-loathing Krugman uses the words "cashed in" to describe how Bush et al reacted to 9/11. Since he's a credentialed economist, how does this compare to how he cashed in on the existence on Enron?

[Captain Hate]

existence of Enron

[Janet]

9-11 should be about remembering those that were murdered & about thanking those that are hunting down the murderers.
Every 9-11 they could offer a chance for Americans to have a "in memory of..." name engraved on a bullet...& then send them over to our military.

[bio mom]

Krugman is a mean little man.

[Ignatz]

--If you don't listen to the words, it sounds like any of his speeches - except less energetic. A beautiful passage, but devoid of feeling when read by him.--

Chubby,
What you describe as lack of feeling is probably just his familiarity with the verse.
I'm pretty sure when he reads
"be still and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth"
he thinks he really is speaking in the first person.

[Army of Davids]

So the FHFA (Fannie, Freddie) announces it is suing 17 banks on issues of some $196 billion.

A few of those banks (Soc Gen, RBS, Deutsche Bank, HSBC) are on the front lines of the European meltdown.

Maybe those banks did misrepresent the quality of the underlying loans (more likely F and F new what they were getting and signed off). And maybe they deserve to be sued.

But does this really help EuroLand survive. We've been doing backdoor bailouts on these same banks via the Fed and TARP.

The term for this in the military ... FUBAR!

[Comanche Voter]

Krugman reminds me of the old maxim, "Ignorance can be cured, but stupid is forever."

Krugman's got his PhD and his Nobel Prize so maybe ignorance has been cured--in his case. The rest--not so much He's a stupid schmuck.

[narciso]

He hasn't changed in 10 years,

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/opinion/reckonings-after-the-horror.html

[sbw]

Our first editorial in the Rome Sentinel: Terror, recovery, and great purpose

September 11, 2001, showcased how exceptional people are who want to live in peace with liberty. It showed what an exceptional country Americans have created. It showcased how resilient a free commercial market is. It showcased that Americans are not, and never have been, a pushover. It showcased that courage comes from sound ideas, deeply understood, under constant re-evaluation and refinement. It showcased all that is great and good.

And our second: A nod to NEADS, now EADS

Focused on sophisticated radar computer screens, they quietly go about their business, tested regularly by aircraft from the former Soviet Union, other unidentified air traffic, and occasional flight problems. When events call for action, they respond with practiced precision to scramble fighters to deal with potential emergencies. Their responsibilities are great. Their skill remarkable. Their demeanor positive.

Over the last 10 years we have traveled with, worked beside, and dined with both American and Canadians in the command. We are privileged to have the command and its personnel stationed here. We are proud to have them part of our community. Whenever you see members of the command out and about in the community, give them a nod and a smile to show your appreciation. They deserve it.

[Ignatz]

How did we as a nation survive by not making it a point to properly separate our paper, plastic and glass or to help a blind, gay hobo across the street on Dec 7th for the last 70 years?

[Jane]

Did anyone else wake up angry? I can't quite figure it out, but I'm very angry about 911. I'm just not so sure why.

[narciso]

I wish you were the editor of my hometown paper, 'the fishwrap' this trite treacle,
is what it offers today,

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/10/2399023/upholding-american-values.html

[Chubby]

lol, Ignatz, but you should have directed that to CentralCal.

[Captain Hate]

I'm angry about part of it Jane. I'm angry that it's co-opted by some of the people that felt we had it coming to us. I'm angry that Jamie Gorelick hasn't been prosecuted for her role in enabling it but incredibly was given a seat on the 9/11 commission and the country clubbers didn't make such a stink about that that it drove her away in disgrace. I'm angry that our military is shackled with insane ROE against an enemy that laughs at the concept. I'm angry that some of my lib "friends" on Facebook are making complete asses out of themselves with comments that civilized and decent people would keep to themselves even if they were stupid enough to be thinking them.

That's just some of what comes to mind.

[MarkO]

"Fake heroes?" Krugman was likely under his desk the entire day. What would he possibly know of physical danger or heroes? Please, can we make an attempt to ignore him now and forever? He is beneath contempt.

[Ignatz]

I agree with Krugman 100%; what happened after 9/11 was deeply shameful.

That the left could so easily perceive and describe Bush's protection of the US, as a "wedge issue" dividing evil traitors like Bush from wonderful patriots like themselves, rather than a difference of opinion on how best to defend the country, is another shameful black mark in their long sordid history of contempt for their "enemies" as Barry describe us.
I myself had plenty of problems with many of Bush's responses but his good faith and sincerity were never in question.
Can anyone honestly say the same about Pauly or his revolting comrades after the last ten years of calumnies, demagoguery and their obsequious, servile, boot licking of our enemies?

[MarkO]

It took Jamie Gorelick and felony theft to hide the deepest of Clinton's defalcations.

[Captain Hate]

People like Krugman have been part of the country since its founding; willing to pay a tea tax and wishing all the rabble rousers would just STFU and submit to authority. Then and now they benefit from the actions of the ones they disdain and are too dishonest to admit it.

[Threadkiller]

I hope it is not because of my flag question, Jane. The upshot of my research is individuals can fly the flag at a height of their choosing. Half-mast may be mandatory on government buildings and installations but in a true American style, citizens can make their own choice.

God bless JoM, God Bless America!

[pagar]

Sandy, Great picture. Thank you for your efforts in keeping a Great Flag foremost 24/7/365.
-------------------------------------------
"I'm angry that our military is shackled with insane ROE against an enemy that laughs at the concept."

"http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/77-us-troops-wounded-in-9-11-afghan-suicide-attack/

[narciso]

Gorelick, I have a special contempt for, not just for the memo she wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117930/posts

[Chubby]

((God bless JoM, God Bless America!))

and God bless everyone in the world who appreciates American exceptionalism and is grateful for it.

[peter]

I refused to turn on the tv and see President Icarus. However, the choice of the Bible reading, to me is that it provides some cover for pacifism, the newest meme the left is trying to spew is that the wars of the last ten years were a mistake, and the wars are what led us into our current deficit troubles.

[Soylent Red]

I agree with Krugman 100%; what happened after 9/11 was deeply shameful.

I'm with Ignatz.

It's shameful that a President doing his job, trying to do the right thing as best he can, with the best interests of the country paramount in his mind should be vilified for eight years while in office, and continue to be vilified for three more years by the pieces of sh*t who thought we had it coming.

Furthermore, it's shameful that many of the policies that were blatantly politicized by the Left to destroy Bush, are now used to buttress their credibility with the American people as being serious about terror. If any group turned patriotism and national defense into wedge issues, it has been the Left. Most people, certainly most on the right, default to that setting.

Every single one of these dirtbags on the Left and in the media should be weeping with shame today. Krugman should be strung up from a lamppost.

[Captain Hate]

the newest meme the left is trying to spew is that the wars of the last ten years were a mistake, and the wars are what led us into our current deficit troubles.

Good luck with that garbage; one of the easiest parts of my early troll-busting was debunking each and every claim they ever made about how much Iraq cost which they insanely overstated. Numbers are never their friend. Entitlements are where the real money is.

[pagar]

Ref my 10:39 post. I can't get the LUN to work. The link says:

"77 US Troops Wounded in 9-11 Afghan Suicide Attack"

Gateway Pundit and Yahoo have the story up.

[bunky]

They even were classless enough to attack Bush for continuing to read to the school kids. BTW 90% of that side agree with Krugman.

[Chubby]

((the newest meme the left is trying to spew is that the wars of the last ten years were a mistake, and the wars are what led us into our current deficit troubles.))

then they are stealing their talking points from Ron Paul

[Jane]

Threadkiller,

You were the first victim of my anger, not the cause. I apologize.

I think it is that the country I love so much is really in trouble. I just wish I could do more to save it. 911 just brings home the pain.

[Danube of Thought]

I remember very well when the sense of national unity cracked forever. It was when the bloated, drunken toad Teddy Kennedy declared that the War in Iraq had been "cooked up down in Texas." I'm glad that bastard is dead, and am confident that he is burning in hell.

Minus 22 at Raz today.

[Captain Hate]

Among the most witless things the left has fixated on, the "My Pet Goat" thing has me really puzzled. GWB followed protocol to a T and didn't act like a witless ninny. I read at AoS that the children he was addressing have all stated that they appreciated his non-hysterical reaction in retrospect. Yet that fat producer of horrible movies believes he deserves ridicule for it.

[bunky]

A real service would be a timeline of how long "unity" lasted. What 48 hours?

[Chubby]

(( Teddy Kennedy declared that the War in Iraq had been "cooked up down in Texas." ))

to them "terror" meant Bush gaining any honor or credit for his leadership, which threatened to leave them out in the cold politically. They simply could not let that happen.

[centralcal]

Apparently, Obummer personally chose the 46th Psalm according to an aide reporting to Ed Henry.

[MaryD]

peter, I think you have cleared up Obama's use of the scripture reading, at least for me. It really can be read as a call to pacifism. As Mark Steyn puts it, under Obama we've gone from let's roll to let's roll over.

[Captain Hate]

Wasn't Slick in Australia flapping his jaws for money when 9/11 happened? Didn't his witless MFM enablers let their guard down momentarily on his return and quote him when he said that he wished it had happened on his watch so that he could've been portrayed as heroic?

[Threadkiller]

No worries, Jane. Thank you.

Sept 11th, 2001 is the gauge of how long a previous administration can be blamed. Bush never, that I know of, blamed Clinton for what led up to the attacks. The only slack I ever cut Obama was during his first 9 months. After that the precedent dictates it is his baby and no one else’s.

[Sandy Daze]

YGTBSM:

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim September 11, 2011, as National Grandparents Day. I call upon all Americans to take the time to honor their own grandparents and those in their community.

[matt]

Just when you think Paul Krugman can't get any lower, he does.

I spent the morning walking around Stocznia Gdansk Shipyard, formerly called the Lenin Shipyards in Gdansk today. There is a small museum to Solidarity, but it is largely deserted now, another relic of the cold war and globalization.

Most of the cranes are rusting away, and there's a little bit of dry dock work going on, but most of the buildings are pockmarked with broken windows. The world has changed, for the better in most ways.

But I am afraid we are falling back towards the abyss again.

I contrasted where we find ourselves today versus where we were then. Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, and Lech Walesa changed the world mightily and for the greater good.

Today, we have toadies like Krugman and incompetents like Obama at the helm of our intellectual and political lives. What a sorry frickin contrast.

I guess Obama must have realized how that scumbag Bloomberg must have alienated large swathes of the population and tried to compensate a bit with his bread crumb of a bible reading.

For an African-American, he sure doesn't get the sweep and cadence of the Bible. I think he's trying but is both misguided and utterly inept. God help us all. And God rest those who died that day and who have died since in this terrible war.

[Danube of Thought]

Krugman's words (I've read only the ones quoted here) are sickeningly despicable. Are his readers not revolted by this shameful vitriol? The man is beneath contempt.

[Jane]

His readers think he is God DOT.

[DebinNC]

Clarice's latest Piece earned the top spot at Lucianne's this day of all days. It's wonderful.

[centralcal]

Jane, he is a cowardly god (with a little "g") and he wouldn't even allow comments.

[DebinNC]

It's not surprising Obama chose the "God of Jacob" psalm. Jacob was the guy who, in order to get the prize he coveted but didn't deserve, fooled the giver by clothing himself in the skin of a goat (see My Pet..) so he could feel and smell to his blind electorate father like the true heir.

[Clarice]

Soylent and DoT, XOXOXOXOXOXOXO

[Clarice]

Deb, I really considered that an honor.

[DebinNC]

It's a great honor any day, but to be numero uno on this solemn day indicates how special your piece is.

[Clarice]

You know, I really can't get over the bile and cant of Krugman's piece.

[Danube of Thought]

What a wonderful and well-deserved honor, Clarice. Get a screen-cap of that page.

Seems to me that ol' W is shining very brightly at these events.

[caro]

Well deserved,Clarice.

[Ann]

Clarice,

Wait til RUSH reads it on the air and says:
RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON!
...cause that is what I was saying.

[Threadkiller]

Just wonderful Clarice!

[rse]

If you have never seen American Express' "13 Tears" interactive memorial in their world headquarters across from GZ, it is a moving stop on your next trip to NYC. It is in honor of their travel employees who worked on site in the Cantor Fitzgerald office.

Their is a 13 sided figure in the roof with 13 wires coming down to a 13 sided reflecting pool. Water coming intermittently down the wires means that there are always several radiating circles interacting in the pool. The idea is that none of them is ever alone. Most moving tribute I have ever seen.

My memory of 911 was a hubby who was on the 4 o'clock flight on Sept 10 that did not leave NYC until after 10 because of all the bad weather that day. That's why it was so clear the morning of the 11th. A front had moved through.

When I heard about the 1st plane I called him and said the weather must still be bad. He said no that couldn't be it. We decided to go pick up the kids from school figuring we understood what was happening more than their teachers and the kids thought dad worked in NYC at that point.

Their acute memory is that their parents came and got them that day and started explaining what was going on. At school the teachers in elem were clearly frightened about something but would not tell the kids what. Most kids remained at school and were absolutely petrified by afternoon carpool.

Red told me yesterday being picked up is her strongest memory of that day.

[Chubby]

((Wait til RUSH reads it on the air and says: RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON!...))

I've been thinking the exact same thing.

[Clarice]

rse, It was a truly glorious, beautiful day here in DC and NYC. I remember that made the horror even more shocking.

[Porchlight]

Seems to me that ol' W is shining very brightly at these events.

I thought his address at Shanksville (linked up top by TM) was terrific. The Gettysburg quotes could not possibly have been more apt. And unlike his successor, Bush doesn't quote Lincoln to lift himself up by comparison, but rather quotes Lincoln to lift up all Americans.

[Clarice]

Thank you all, again.