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September 18, 2011

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Dot,

Do you recall where you saw got that article about the press last night?

It's a common tragedy.

rse @ 3:43. Yup.
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Danube of Thought

When I was a kid, "millionaire" meant someone with a net worth of $1 Million or more. It gradually came to be understood as someone with a million in annual income.

Now I don't know what the hell it means.

Jack is Back!

cypher,

It was National Post by Rex Murphy. LUN

Let's see what was going on with the Mother of Socialism about then?

Funny, too, rse, that the whole global warming lollapalooza got off the ground right about the same time.
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Rick Ballard

Jim Miller,

I've wondered whether it comes from the fact the the IRS makes it easy to calculate the number of people under attack at the $250K level. I believe the $200K joint level is more important.

If they drop under $200K, the number of households to be plundered soars from <4 million to >17 million. Those counts are returns so the actual votes involved are close to double.

Benjamin Franklin

Chaco;

The other day you said you should write a Western. I agree.
It would be a shame if the genealogical research weren't recorded.

Faction would be my choice. Holes need filling, and it should be you who speculates based on the known character of your relations.

Benjamin Franklin

recorded (in narrative form)

sbw

[OT] Just returned from a weekender tailgating, watching Army beat Northwestern, and visiting with a firstie and his family and friends. In addition, didn't expect to be able to see him, but also got to see my nephew, now a plebe.

Proud of 'em both? You bet!

Porchlight

So yeah, I'd bet the sophisticated readers of Texas Monthly don't quite get it.

Yeah, normally I'd say that's the way of things. But what I should have clarified is that Texas Monthly readers *are* sophisticated about Texas history. It isn't going to be news to them that "the towns and forts of the westward expansion were not monolithic in their politics." But the writer of that piece made out like that was some kind of unique insight he was personally delivering to Texans that "we would do well to recall." Thanks.

It's like when a young hipster discovers "real" country music for the first time, and tries to tell an older person who actually knows something "You know, rock and roll was actually influenced a lot by country." Gee, really, you think?

Next this guy's going to tell us that Texas wasn't always Republican and used to have a lot more Democrats.

RichatUF

Ignatz-

I used the total private employment number for 2009 (although I'm too lazy to look up the Feb 09 number) and the first-look for August 2011.

Rick Ballard

Just to be clear - >$200K returns are 4.8% of the total, report 33.3% of the taxable income and already pay 50.2% of the total personal taxes collected at a tax rate of 26.8%.

Charlie (Colorado)

Do you know what I am describing?

Sounds like my Tia Julia.

I don't know the exact place you're describing, but I probably have eaten in 20 of them.

Chubby

((To me the characters in The Virginian are, maybe, a little bit of hero-worship but basically naturalistic.))

I'm glad to hear that.

I've been totally steeped in The Virginian over the past few weeks, some wonderful person, carrieokie, has put up the entire series on youtube. Even the original pilot. Which has led to my interest in reading Wister's book which is still selling well on Amazon.

I find it hard to separate the acharcters from the excellent actors who seem so perfect for the parts. James Drury's dad was a professor at New York University, but they owned a ranch out west where he spent his summers. He's now a oilman. I don't know much about Doug McLure's real life background other than that he married lots and died tragically young at 59, but he gives Trampas so much life and wit. Lots of good music in the series too.

In your Duke days, did you ever happen to meet George Elliott Clarke?

Chubby

lots of beautiful horses too. The Virginian's appaloosa, Joe D and Trampas' buckskin, Buck.

sbw

Chubby: Which has led to my interest in reading Wister's book which is still selling well on Amazon.

Read it, if you haven't already. The first real western, it speaks volumes about character and presages, by 110 years, the lack of it in government and press.

Charlie (Colorado)

But what I should have clarified is that Texas Monthly readers *are* sophisticated about Texas history.

I think I'd draw a distinction between "knowledgeable" and "sophisticated" there. It's kind of the difference between the Old Cow Town Ranch, which is just north of the family ranch, and the real town of Blanca. The folks that built the Old Cow Town stuff were very familiar with real Colorado towns, but they got Disneyland. If you look, say, at the Smith's General Store (my cousins, I used to visit my Aunt Bessie in that building; she was postmaster and ran the town phone switchboard) you see the Western town tradition of having that high facade for real. The second story on that was added in the 20's but the facade is the same in pictures from 1900.

My point, if I have one, is that there's a difference between knowing the history, and really understanding that those were real people.

Charlie (Colorado)

Chubby, no I didn't; I was gone by then, he was one of the folks they got to try to make up for losing Skip Gates to Harvard.

Ignatz

--Ignatz-

I used the total private employment number for 2009 (although I'm too lazy to look up the Feb 09 number) and the first-look for August 2011.--

Not to worry Rich. I'm so fuzzy brained today I linked to the civilian work force tables when I meant to be talking about non-farm payrolls.
What I should have said is Barry has "destroyed' about 2.5 million jobs not 500,000. Duh.

Charlie (Colorado)

Faction would be my choice. Holes need filling, and it should be you who speculates based on the known character of your relations.

Um, unless you meant "fiction" I think you lost me.

I've been accumulating these family stories for years with that in mind, either as Westerns or translating it forward into science fiction.

Charlie (Colorado)

What I should have said is Barry has "destroyed' about 2.5 million jobs not 500,000. Duh.

Hmmm. 2.5 million + 350,000 is 2.9 million -- isn't that about what the CBO multiplier middle estimate gives?

daddy

"Just returned from a weekender tailgating, watching Army beat Northwestern,"

Well of course Army beat NorthWestern, since NorthWestern's best Tuba Player at Half Time graduated and is now teaching Science to the Navaho's out west.

TC,

How goes reports from the Reservation?

Porchlight

I think I'd draw a distinction between "knowledgeable" and "sophisticated" there.

Okay.

But anyway, I thought the Texas Monthly piece was pretty lame.

The Virginian is a terrific book. I would recommend it to anyone.

Charlie (Colorado)

All I remember was that it was like tucked into a fork in the road. Run by a Mexican lady. Incredible food to remember from about 35 years ago.

You know, that really could have been Tia Julia. That's about when I moved to California, but she did cook in a Mexican joint on the road there. Gas station too?

Don't know much about Black Swans.

I dunno, Chaco; there was a butterfly wing caught in the grill.
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Benjamin Franklin

'Faction' is a term coined by some member of the 'New Journalism'
(Hunter S. Thompson-Tom Wolfe).

Their contention is that non-fiction is less factual than faction, which is a marriage of the two. 'Based on a true story' is not the genre.

It's more a participatory arrangement wherein the reader assumes
there is some ornamentation in the prose, fleshing out the narration.

Jack is Back!

Talking about family history and genealogy, if it wasn't for the Mormons we'd all be lost as to our ancestry when it comes to America. Mine is English on my fraternal side and my cousin in England has got it back to the 1560's. But the LDS records that have been made available (ancestry.com) are really a savior to those in the States.

Over in England all the old records are "parish" records of birth, baptism, marriage, etc. Plus the census which didn't provide records there until sometime in the 1800's. Whereas here in the states I think they rely more on civil records like census, immigration, courthouse licenses etc.

In researching ours we have come across numerous errors, exaggerations, misunderstandings and such by writers of yesteryear. But the most revealing was that one of our guys took a job on a ship to Australia, decided to stay and do the gold rush, bought a pub, married an Irish girl, got drunk one night with her and the next morning she was dead. After the obligatory inquiry he was charged and convicted of manslaughter and spent 8 years in the gaol then went back into the pub business when he got out.

Yes, there are skeletons in every closet but you have to have the nerve and interest to open the door. Good luck, ChaCo.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

James Drury of the Virginian. Forgot all about him. When my husband was named Sailor of the Year, for some strange reason, James Drury gave him his award. Somewhere I have a newspaper clipping of it.

Charlie (Colorado)

Chaco, Belle Starr!You have to write these memories up in more detail for a broader audience. Belle Starr! Wow

You know, the funny thing about a lot of that is that we do kind of romanticize this. My grandfather was just a 16 year old jerk who's lucky he didn't get shot; two years hiding out in Mexico, followed by my g'grandafther scamming a deal to let him enlist in the Navy to avoid going to jail, convinced him the Injun Badman thing wasn't for him. And Belle Starr would have been just more or less ordinary rough trailer trash of they'd only have invented trailers in 1866.

John Reed, who's my blood relative, was a flat out psychopath, like Bill Bonney or Jesse James.

I have to say that finding out about these ancestors did rather make me feel I'd come by my problems with authority honestly.

RichatUF

Ignatz-

All I needed to do was go back a thread to see that Cecil was using the good professor as a piñata.

Benjamin Franklin

'Marriage of the two', being novel and non-fiction.

daddy

Charlie,

Last month I read this fairly fun new book, The Floor of Heaven: A True Tale of the Last Frontier and the Yukon Gold Rush.

It tracks 3 interesting characters until their lives all finally intersect in the Klondike Gold Rush.

Charles Siringo, pretty much the hero, is a Texas Cowboy, know to me from this famous earlier autobiography, A Texas Cowboy: or, Fifteen Years on the Hurricane Deck of a Spanish Pony (Penguin Classics)

Anyhow, Siringo winds up being the Pinkerton's main man, and tracks down Soapy Sam, who made a big stink in your Colorado (with Batt Masterson sightings) before coming up to Skagway, Alaska to orchestrate a scheme for murder and robbery of the 3rd guy, George Carmack, the guy who made the discovery of the gold fields in the Klondike at Dawson.

Found it also it was interesting that Soapy Sam tried to get Strauss of Levi Strauss Blue jeans fame to join him in some under the table scheme while out in Denver, but at the last minute Levi balked.

Anyhow, just thought I'd toss that book recommendation out there as it sounds like some of your relations were probably drinking and carousing buddies with all 3 of these characters on any given night.

So take that Texas Monthly (and your 1916 German Bomber target at Hick's Field---where Chaco's Pop I believe was an Air Cadet way back when!)

Charlie (Colorado)

Their contention is that non-fiction is less factual than faction, which is a marriage of the two. 'Based on a true story' is not the genre.

Ah, duh, sorry. I've even been watching a documentary about Thompson this week.

(Now there's a guy I wish I'd have met.)

Charlie (Colorado)

Yes, there are skeletons in every closet but you have to have the nerve and interest to open the door. Good luck, ChaCo.

Oh, it gets better. I'm intterested in the stories -- it's my DAR cousins who do the geneology part.

They were real anxious to track down my Cherokee (the Reed side) ancestors -- until they found some of them in the Dawes Rolls as "Cherokee Freedmen", ie, free blacks who had been tribal slaves.

All of a sudden the Choctaw side was much more interesting.

Benjamin Franklin

"(Now there's a guy I wish I'd have met.)"

Been to Woody Creek? Owl Farm?

Charlie (Colorado)

Anyhow, just thought I'd toss that book recommendation out there as it sounds like some of your relations were probably drinking and carousing buddies with all 3 of these characters on any given night.

Thanks. You mean Soapy Smith? I've heard lots of stories about him, several of them true, but he left Colorado before my family got here.

Ignatz

--Hmmm. 2.5 million + 350,000 is 2.9 million -- isn't that about what the CBO multiplier middle estimate gives?--

That was 2.5 million as in a negative number, hence the term "destroyed".

Charlie (Colorado)

Been to Woody Creek? Owl Farm?

You know, I haven't, but I know Arita and I have mutual friends. I ought to try it.

MarkO

Charlie, I now understand how you could go to both UNC and Duke. Great stories.

Ranger

And another take from the left on why Obama is in crisis (via RCP):

The Scared President

Rich quotes Suskind as writing that Obama always favored policies that were “respectfully acknowledging opponents' positions, even those with thin evidence behind them, that then get stitched together into some pragmatic conclusion—but hollow.”

That sounds awfully apt to me. Obama was afraid to be the president.

It would be more accurate to say that Obama was afraid to do the actual job of being president. He loves being president.

Benjamin Franklin


Anita at Owl Farm blog


P.S. for those of you still asking. Yes it's true! Johnny Depp and Graham King are releasing The Rum Diary on October 28th. Excellent, eh?

Rum Diary was not his best work. Depp comes close to the edgy, hypermedicated writer, but it's hard to match the intensity of his
words on mere film.

daddy

Okay,

Just about to take the dogs on their walk, but before I do thought I needed to post this Brit Science story on Dating Tips From The Animal Kingdom.

Fer instance ladies, Male Manaken bird behavior (if I interpret it correctly) tells us that if you're looking to get lucky, you should go out with another gal friend who's slightly uglier that you are, in order to make you look hotter to the boys. Any bird brain oughta' see the wisdom in that.

Grebe Birds advise you to shake your tail feathers a lot, a tried and true behavior which I believe DoT and I can testify is always an eye-catcher for the male of the Species.

Emperor Penguins suggest not giving it up on the First Date, and Pigs tell us that it's okay to exude odors, just not ones that stink too much like a French Whorehouse.

Anyhow, it appears it's still a Wild Kingdom over there and don't even get me started on Snail caresses or fondling Sea Horses, etc.

KayyyyyyyyyyyRoooooooo---hey, quit trying to hump my leg, Fido!!!

sbw

Remember, Suskind was the dolt who contrived the religious Bush in a bubble fantasy ... albeit swallowed whole by a willing lib readership.

daddy

"You mean Soapy Smith?"

Yep. Sorry my mistake. What a fascinating Con Man he turned out to be.

Bye.

I read Fear & Loathing serially in the library.

Hey, Chaco, watch out for the little people.
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Danube of Thought

When are we gonna see the NYT piece about clinical depression? IIRC it came from the Gawker, which always makes it iffy.

How bad are the Chiefs, Seahawks and Colts?

Jack is Back!

ranger,

I have always thought he was "scared" of the job ever since I saw him in the tunnel ready to come out for his inauguration. I thought he was very remote and scared at the thought that he would now step out of his dream into reality and that was worse than the dream. Don't know if anyone remembers that particular moment but it was very revealing and very disturbing to see our next POTUS look like a kid scared of his own shadow.

Jack is Back!

DoT, TK and Mark O,

You guys have a game in NE. 20-14 Pats but lots of time remaining. Wouldn't that be something for the blazers to win on the road.

MarkO

If Rivers won't throw to NE, SD could win.

Jack is Back!

Yowza,

Stopped the Pats on a 4th and 6. Chargers have the ball. Another questionable Belichick call. Sorry, DoT, I know he was a kid when you were in Annapolis but for a smart, creative coach he does make some bonehead calls from time to time. This time in your favor.

Jack is Back!

Or if Tolbert could hold on to the ball.....

Clarice

Chaco, for that time and place, Belle sounds rather well educated. If she hadn't lost so much in the war I doubt she'd have ended up on the wrong side of the law.
Anyway, yours is a most interesting family history .

Clarice

What was that Bismarck said about God protecting drunks, children and Americans?

Problem Bank List ^ | Sep 9, 2011 | Staff
With the European banking system tottering on the brink of collapse, nervous holders of cash have flooded the U.S. banking system with $1.2 trillion of deposits. Panicky holders of large amounts of cash are taking advantage of a provision of the Dodd-Frank Act that provides unlimited FDIC insurance coverage on noninterest-bearing transaction accounts. The Dodd-Frank Act provides unlimited deposit insurance coverage regardless of the account balance or type of ownership. [snip] After the near total meltdown of the financial system in 2008, investors are taking steps to move their money into government guaranteed accounts

MarkO

“He went to Massachusetts to campaign against Scott Brown; Brown is now a senator. He went to New Jersey to campaign against Chris Christie, who’s now governor. He went to Virginia to campaign against Bob McDonnell, who’s now governor. He campaigned for the health-care plan extensively, it became less popular. He campaigned in 2010 for the Democrats, they were shellacked. He began, in a sense, his presidency flying to Copenhagen to get Chicago the Olympics; Chicago was the first city eliminated. There is no evidence that the man has the rhetorical powers that he is relying on.” — Columnist George F. Will, speaking on ABC’s This Week.

Clarice

Shhhh , George..

MarkO

Come on, he's just not that smart.

MarkO

Doom. But, Duke beat Boston College---in football.

Charlie (Colorado)

watch out for the little people.

I'm okay, I've got a family of crows near the new house.

Jack is Back!

Those Pats are tough. But SD should have had a better D on that drive. Especially on the run. But all in all a good effort against one tough team.

Extraneus

Just for fun, let's remember that Clinton's stimulus plan, which he didn't get passed, was less than $20B!

As originally offered, the bill included about $4 billion to extend unemployment benefits, $2 billion for education grants, $6 billion for highways and public improvements and $2 billion for summer jobs. The Republicans were especially critical of $2.5 billion in community development block grant spending, which they said would pay for pork barrel projects.
Charlie (Colorado)

But, Duke beat Boston College---in football.

The fact that Duke beat anybody at football may be a Portent.

Danube of Thought

This is the Chargers' 52nd season. They won the 1963 AFL Championship in 1963 (with Jack Kemp at QB). That's it. I've seen them lose in every conceivable way. Four turnovers today, three inside the Pats' 30. And stuffed on fourth and goal from the one-foot line.

Extraneus

Those Pats are tough. But SD should have had a better D on that drive. Especially on the run. But all in all a good effort against one tough team.

Damn. I hate the Pats.

Did I mention that the Jets are also 2-0? Terrible performance by the offense, but they still won 32-3, with the defense holding the opposing QB to a team record 1.8 rating.

JM Hanes

DoT:

"If the Chinese want to produce cheap, subsidized solar panels (using dirt-cheap labor) and sell them to American companies, by all means let them do so."

Andrew Stiles:

The Chinese Communist Party would not be subsidizing the Chinese solar industry if the West were not requiring its utilities to include solar in the mix, regardless of the cost, or subsidizing the private installation of solar panels.

Let's hope one of our erstwhile candidates will make that point now that Team Obama has decided to run against China.

Jack is Back!

Talking about stimulus and spending, remember this?

Jim Miller

According to the 6th edition of the "Shorter Oxford English Dictionary" a millionaire is "A person whose assets are worth at least a million pounds, dollars, etc.", but they add that a millionaire is "a person of great wealth".

Those of us who think precisely will use the first, and Democratic politicians will continue to use the second.

Ignatz

Must see crazy bastard in a wingsuit sailing through the trees and missing the ground by about five feet, if that.

Jack is Back!

Jim Miller,

Isn't it net worth and not assets? I know a lot of poor millionaires (I being one of them) based on the asset definition, especially when it comes to real estate:)

Charlie (Colorado)

Must see crazy bastard in a wingsuit sailing through the trees and missing the ground by about five feet, if that.

Dude, continuing to miss the ground was the first advice my flying teacher gave me.

narciso

Is there a deluxe level of SCAM that Brooks,
and Mark Lynch, and Megan Daum qualify for.

Jim Miller

Here's my mild critique of Maureen Dowd's latest
column, "Maureen Dowd, Blockhead".

It's dirty work, but someone has to do it.

(Supporters of Michelle Bachmann and Barack Obama are both likely to find one paragraph infuriating.)

Ignatz

Guess where the vast majority of tax breaks and subsidies go. Middle class individuals, surprise.

Ignatz

--Dude, continuing to miss the ground was the first advice my flying teacher gave me.--

Except in a wingsuit you're not flying, you're falling.

Jim Miller

JiB - I think the "net" is implied by the definition.

Clarice

Woot

Rasmussen Reports ^ | 18 Sept 2011 | Scott Rasmussen
Forty-four percent (44%) describe themselves as conservative on fiscal issues such as taxes, government spending and business regulation. Forty percent (40%) say they're moderate when it comes to fiscal issues, while only 11% claim to be fiscal liberals. "Conservative" is still the most positive description you can give a political candidate as far as voters are concerned. Forty-two percent (42%) view it as a positive, while only 17% think it's a positive to describe a candidate as a liberal.

Jim Miller

How bad are the Seahawks? So bad that the sports guys out here have mostly given up on them -- already.

I've heard predictions that they will win all of three games this season.

Sue

Dallas Cowboys.

That's all.

::grin::

Jack is Back!

Story of a pencil. LUN

Await the liberal/dem/prog version, 1.2. 3. .........

PD

Home!

Left Willmar, MN this morning for Burnsville (just south of Mpls) where we attended services. Then a few miles east to meet MarkF for lunch. We enjoyed fine Burger King cuisine while chatting about cabins, trolls, theology, wetwork, and all manner of things. 'twas a good time.

PD

We listened to part of the Vikings game on the drive home from Mpls. Then Packers game as we moved west.

The season so far:
Packers 2-0
Vikings 0-2

Jack is Back!

Food for thought and consideration. It is our military and it does stand between us and our enemies. Read the first few comments then scroll down to toward the bottom. It looks like those who would be in favor were given a head's up then the old timers found out and their comments came in last. For me, it is a predictable day and a sad day for those who serve. LUN

Army of Davids

I do not think it is an exaggeration to say history is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments.
~ Friedrich August von Hayek

PaulV

Obama green energy agenda has created jobs in India and China why costing jobs here.
A multiplier of 1.0 means a stimulus has not chamged GDP? It has neither crated or destroyed jobs. Anything less means it has hurt the economy. Bachmann has a master in Tax Law from W&M and a JD from somewhere else.

JM Hanes

Considering the source, I wouldn't exactly call the ever-obtuse Summers' Bombay Club banter "chilling." Like almost all the other putatively expert "adults" in orbit around Obama and the gang from Chicago, Summers was clearly ornamental from the start. Who can forget the 300 foreign policy gurus decorating the presidential candidate's campaign team? Having prostituted his professional credentials for a seat at the White House table, I'm sure his irrelevance was a bitter pill to swallow, but apparently Summers' ambitions have still got the better of his spine.

For pure chilly schadenfreude, I'd like to eavesdrop on a dinner table tête à tête between Summers (National Economic Council) and Paul Volcker (President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board):

Volcker, known for taming inflation in the 1980s, was disappointed with the way his advisory group became a public relations tool for the White House as its meetings with the president were televised live, making honest discussion difficult to conduct, the person familiar with his views said....

“Volcker was always sort of on the outside anyway,” said Joseph Engelhard, a former U.S. Treasury deputy assistant secretary who is now a senior vice president at Capital Alpha Partners in Washington. “They pretty much used him to look tough on regulation, and now they’re done with him, they’re saying goodbye.”

Maybe the dear departed Chistina Romer (Council of Economic Advisers), whose own economic volte-face was a wonder of academic intellectual flexibility, could pull up a chair. Poor Austin Goolsbee never really advanced beyond the children's table, no matter how many times he willingly threw himself under the Obama bus.

Clarice

Well, it's rather a bullshit discipline in the first place, jmh..why would you expect its leading lights to behave any differently?

Clarice

I'm dreaming of an administration whose foreign affairs team are all former oriental rug salesmen; whose economics team all ran businesses large and small; whose education advisors never went to ed school...

narciso

Ah let's look at that panel, Ferguson from Jim Miller's review of 'Reckless Endangerment'
was influential in keeping the GSE's from proper scrutiny, Wolf's UBS just lost 2 'billion' (Dr. Evil, upraised pinky) in derivatives, Donaldson seems the only one, not a party to a scam.

Jack is Back!

Clarice,

You are parodying the old "In a perfect world the Brits are policemen, the French are the chefs, etc.". However, we are currently in your world and even the indigestion served at the Bombay Club (I was an original customer back in the day) can never bring down this failed house of cards. Its almost as if it is a mirage and we are not living in it but a parallel universe where we are destined to watch it without being able to do anything about it.

Clarice

JMH..I should add I am always suspicious of academics in govt. They got where they were by always pleasing their teachers and over the years I have found them to be the biggest whores when they get to D.C.
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White House mouthpiece all but admits jobs bill passage not important
http://www​.nypost.co​m/p/blogs/​capitol/wh​ite_house_​6TG3aOtn31​Dp63hF37Qe​MK#ixzz1YI​vuEYzP
Excerpt: After an amazing back and forth with White House Spokesman Jay Carney the honchos at ABC News ought to give Tapper a raise because he actually proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that President Obama could care less about Congress passing his jobs bill. How so? Just read the transcript of Tapper and Carney's back and forth over an essential detail Obama has ignored, namely speaking directly with the man who can call a vote on the legislation. TAPPER: OK. And then lastly, on the jobs plan, the Speaker’s office says there has not been any outreach to them ... from the White House on the jobs bill.... Is that true and if so, why hasn’t there been? CARNEY: Well, ... There will be ample time going forward for continued consultations with leadership and rank-and-file members of Congress as Congress takes up the American Jobs Act and hopefully passes it, so that we can do the things we need to do to grow the economy and create jobs. TAPPER: The president said, “Pass this bill now” more than a hundred times in the last week. CARNEY: Yeah. Well, that’s because it’s so urgent... TAPPER: Not urgent enough to call the Speaker, though.

narciso

Did I say 2 billion, how about 10 billion, even inflation adjusted from Everett Dirksen's time, that's some real money:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ubs_ceo_refuses_hit_quit_as_insiders_UDLncyZukRQ5EtE4Y7qFyJ

centralcal

Been away all day, but SBW, got to say, kudos for the pride! I join you, as an imaginary friend in this:

Proud of 'em both? You bet!

rse

Clarice-

Larry's brother did some legal work for me so I used to hear stories in the 90s when he was at Treasury. I do not think he ever brownnosed to a teacher or prof in his life. Apparently he always thought he should be the teacher.

Porchlight

You are parodying the old "In a perfect world the Brits are policemen, the French are the chefs, etc."

Reminds me of the old Canada joke. They were supposed to get British government, French culture, and American know-how, and instead they ended up with French government, American culture, and British know-how.

Jack is Back!

Clarice,

All of sudden the press room in the WH reads the JOM website? I mean where is Jake getting his TP's and more importantly his brass ass to ask such silly questions and make such deviant conclusions?

narciso

Or what's that line about Southern efficiency
and Northern hospitality,

Clarice

Well, rse, then he's unfit for public office for other reasons. No?

Porchlight

After the exchange Clarice quoted, Carney went on to sneer at Tapper "I didn't know you were working for Boehner." Because we all know that a reporter asking tough questions of a Dem press secretary means the reporter works for the Republican opposition.

Let's play....What If Bush Had Done It (WIBHDI)? Slight problem - in Bush's case the reporters really did work for the Democratic opposition. But, that said, they all would have gone apeshit anyway.

Army of Davids

Found in the attic...

The old Misery Index

Welcome Back Kotter

Charlie (Colorado)

Except in a wingsuit you're not flying, you're falling.

All the more reason to keep missing the ground.

Jim Ryan

George Will is right: "What great oratory skills?" Oratory skills don't just vanish after a year or so.

Without the supposed oratory skills what is there? "Well, he was a great orator." No he wasn't. "Well, he... Well, what the heck was he?" I'll tell you what he was. He was:

1. In with the Ivy snobs, assorted leftists and kleptocrats.

2. Good at speech cadence.

3. Black.

People assumed from these three factors that there had to be a there there: wisdom, prudence, vision, ideas, leadership skills, political savvy, etc. - in spite of the clues (no resume, zombie church, etc.) But, alas, no. It turns out he is so useless they send him golfing whenever there is an important meeting.

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