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September 23, 2011


Danube of Thought

Perry ain't gonna make it.


Mitch Daniels for POTUS, Ryan Director of OMB.

Benjamin Franklin

I'm glad I didn't see this. This booing BS is a hallmark of these 'crowds'


Some members of the GOP debate audience booed a gay soldier who asked via video whether the Republican candidates would reinstitute the recently repealed "Don't ask, don't tell" policy of banning openly gay soldiers.

After Stephen Hill, who is serving in the Army in Iraq, asked his question, a handful of members of the audience booed loudly. None of the Republican candidates responded to the audience's reaction.

Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) answered that "Any type of sexual activity has no place in the military" and that he would return to the policy of requiring gays and lesbians to stay silent on their sexuality or get thrown out of the military. His response garnered loud applause.

When pressed with what he would do with soldiers who have now come out, he said, "What we're doing is playing social experimentation with our country right now, and that's tragic" but said that he would not throw out soldiers who have recently come out due to the end of "Don't ask, don't tell."

This is not the first time the Republican audience has had a controversial reaction during a GOP debate and the candidates have avoided addressing it. At the last debate, when asked if a dying man who had not bought health insurance should be allowed to die, many in the audience clapped, cheered and shouted, "Yes."

No Republican candidates criticized them at the debate, something which was widely discussed in the media and criticized by Democrats.

Benjamin Franklin

BTW; I didn't read this on your blow-by-blow account of the debate.
Was there any discussion?


I'm with your too-young-to-vote son, TM. I thought Cain won.

BB Key

get Ron Paul off the stage and get the Paulians out of the audience...problem solved

Danube of Thought

John McCormack, Weekly Standard:

"Of the three GOP presidential debates that Perry has participated in since joining the race six weeks ago, Thursday's performance in Orlando was his worst."


If only, BB Key. How did we finally get him off the stage last election? I can't remember. Did we have to wait until primary voting started?


A little sherbet for narciso:


That was great, Clarice, Ron Paul hung around till June, cc, I don't know how many debates
he appeared in.


ha ha ha ha ha, Clarice!

Thanks for the info, Narciso (I think. Hope he is long gone before next June!)

Captain Hate

I still think he looks like the Muppet professor who deals with Beaker: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/confederate-yankee-also-observes.html

Benjamin Franklin

"problem solved"

The bigger problem is no debater called them out for it....


In case you missed it on the other thread..Happy birthday, Jane!!!!


Clarice - it isn't Jane's birthday today.


Rush Limbaugh cracked the joke about his dogs leaving more shovel ready projects than Obama on yesterday's show.


I wonder if the Romney opposition reasearch gang has stumbled on the State of Texas refusal to adopt GASB with respect to post-retirement healthcare benefits. This allows the state financials to ignore retirement liabilities associated with government workers. Kind of a hypocritical stance for someone who wants to insist that a PAYGO system like Social Security is a ponzi scheme. Also, this ignores that healthcare is a bigger governmental bottomless pit than Social Security is.

(See the LUN for details.)


It isn't. facebook says it is.

Yes, he did Ext.


No, Appalled, they don't know their own candidate's record well enough,


Well, she has left two comments on other threads saying today isn't her birthday. Somebody else brought up Facebook, too. Hit then chimed in and said it was only halfway to her birthday (only he did it thousands of minutes, rather than days).

Danube of Thought

I think they begin to drop off when the money runs out.


omg, call Big Brother, Winston booed


Jane wrote to Mark on the pre-debate thread:


I can't deal with Facebook. I'm telling you they are confusing me with Maybee - it's her birthday not mine. I'll save your good wishes until next year!

hit and run

Put another way,there are 25 JOMer birthdays between now and Jane's actual birthday (excluding all but one of MayBee's birthdays between now and then).


--Some members of the GOP debate audience booed a gay soldier who asked via video whether the Republican candidates would reinstitute the recently repealed "Don't ask, don't tell" policy of banning openly gay soldiers.--

I wonder if it's possible they were booing the new policy which allows openly gay soldiers to serve?
Nah. That reporter is obviously a top notch mind reader as is Ben.


Well, I love Herman Cain and liked him a while back when he ran and lost for the Senate in Georgia. He will not win, though. I thought Rick Santorum (whom I have always thought rather sanctimonious) did very well. Rick Perry was a disaster--he was painful to watch. I am rather dispirited as I think we will probably end up with Romney--whom I try and try to like but cannot seem to "get there."

Mark Folkestad

Poor Jane. I'll take my cues from the JOMO tribe and chime in when your real birthday comes along. But would you protest if someone tried to give you a diamond bracelet today, by mistake, in honor of your birthday?

There shouldn't be any trouble with my birthday. My name had been chosen very early, and I wound up arriving roughly three weeks late, on the feast day of St. Mark, purely by accident. So when you see stories of Venice celebrating the feast day of its patron saint, you can use that as a reminder of another Mark, somewhat less saintly.


They have every right to show distaste for the moral debasement of our armed services. In fact, it is their duty. If any "debaters" objected to it then they should not be the POTUS. It is high time the Left learns what contempt the vast majority of American have for the homosexual agenda. The so-called "average, moderate Democrat" need to own up to what their party stands fr.

The acceptance of homosexuality as normative behavior is the mark of both deep moral rot and a exceedingly sick society. Like all other attempts by the Leftist elites to degrade and destroy our nation and civilization, it must be cast aside. In time, this must occur for our civilization will fall. Like abortion, it is part and parcel of the culture of darkness and death that the Left seeks to bind us in.

BF demonstrates just how low of a souls he is by imaging that that championing homosexuality, particularly in the armed forces, is a moral good and somehow "progress". It is neither such thing. It is supporting great evil and seeking ruin ad destruction.


Santorum is the only one who used the word "victory" and meant it along with changing the Rules of Engagement. Considering there have been 21 fatalities in Afghanistan this month alone, I owe it to them and my children to give preference to safeguarding their cultural inheritance.

As your previous post noted, Obama and his base have a patriotic vibe filtered through the 60s culture wars of "pigs" and "baby killers" to today's "greedy pigs" and "colonial baby killers", and our military need not apply. The progressives have gotten their money's worth out of Obama's efforts to neutralize the military, and by extension, national security issues in this campaign. 1/still disenfranchising their vote by not enforcing ballot schedules; 2/put a woman on the US Supreme Court who banned military recruiting on a university campus; 3/refused to use the word "victory" when it came to the good war; 4/accepted the Nobel Peace Prize; 5/the Man Who Got Bin Laden; 6/used force in Libya; 7/trans-gender coming soon after DADT.

But "Nobody puts Baby in a corner!" I welcomed the urgency in course correction I heard from Santorum. Give me more. 1/Recognize we can not save the euro and by extension the EU and let it fail so we will have an immediate balanced budget and no more QE; 2/our forces will leave Europe and reposition to bases in Iraq and Afghanistan; 3/our generals matter but our prez is directing the MIC and we will no longer nation build so the fail luvvie State Dept can get lost.


P.S. The Island of Misfit Close-ups, otherwise known as Fox News, was listing and off course like tiny floating Sea-Star Island under the helm of Chris Wallace who believes himself to be Dr. Dolittle, able to talk to the animals. Observe how Wallace most graciously interpreted the free-range questions for the domesticated. My sister chalks it up to a love of his own master's voice.

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