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October 11, 2011

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NK

Nancy P is a walking talking Botox addled conflict of interest. She and her husband are corner cutters and influence peddlers of he highest order. She disgusts me.

Old Lurker

Then there is the story at Drudge - LUN - of another D-CA's connection to crony capitalism too.

Throw that distaff mastiff a bone.

Somebody's huuuuungreeeeee!
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Clarice

It's just like Europe now with its socialist royalty.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Nancy is an old crone-ee capitalist. But she identifies with all the little people, doncha know.

Danube of Thought

It's remarkable how someone so absolutely stupid can be so cunning.

Benjamin Franklin

posted on previous thread. ..

Just a few thoughts.

For some time now I have been engaged in what I call 'The Experiment'.

I have used many pseudonyms over the years. First, it was a clever device I saw used by Kim, wherein a final point could be made on the 'posted by' bar.

Then it turned into a disruptive fiat, which I must say, I enjoyed for a time. But it was not really accomplishing anything. when Hit and Run made a cryptic comment one day, I decided to try something different.

You see, there are about 2-3000 people who do not comment here (sitemeter) Is it because of me? Or is it because they fear the lashback against deviant behavior, like having another opinion?
They can see the pecking order. The Alphas like to control their environment, but sometimes it is to the detriment of others

There is WAY too much acrimony in our political dialogue.

Back to the experiment...My efforts, of late, have been to survey the possibility that taking the first step toward building some makeshift bridge of communication, without sacrificing my own idea of self, would produce some fruit. I believe it has.

Yes, I still like being a contrarian. But it is more accurate to call me
an equalizer. I like being the Antagonist with my more liberal acquaintances and friends, not because I am masochistic, but because I believe the human mind benefits from such exercises.

In that sense, I could be called 'Professor'. It is not accurate to use that term on me in the literal sense.

Appalled

Speaking of the 99%, I just took a little stroll to the urban campsite of Occupy Atlanta, which takes up about a third of Woodruff Park. Basically, the test for any demonstration is whether they can take bad weather. And, in Atl today, it is breezy, with persitant drizzle, and a pneumonia inducing temp of 53 degrees.

These guys don't meet the test. I counted about 30 tents -- the size of a homeless encampment, and a few chilly looing people strolling around. The folks by the local TV station vans looked totally bored. CNN (headquarters 5 blocks away) was nowhere to be seen. Frankly, the impromptu "Honk If You Want to Leave Iraq" demonstrations of a few years ago drew many more people.

There are very few signs. The whole occupy site looks very ratty and makeshift. The business of the city very easily moved around the encampment, and paid it no mind. A few of the homeless, who usually congregate in the park during the day, looked a little put out, as some of their favorite spots were taken.

Looking at this, and seeing how ragtag this bunch was, I wonder if the 99%-ers have made a mistake by going National. While congregagted in NYC, these guys look reasonably large and imposing. Seeing them in futile little encampments illustrates that this movement is -- as yet -- not that deep.

Janet

The word hobo comes to mind.

Benjamin Franklin

Who would you vote for, today, Appalled? Cain, Perry or Romney.

Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?

There's only four posters here, rhythmically thumping the pad thousands of times a day.
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Gmax

The movement looks like its not very deep, because its not very deep, Apalled. We have never had a large contingent of marxist anarchists in this country, so why would it suddenly grow either?

Its pathetic and the folks fit right in the the Democrat wing of the Democrat party though...

My favorite candy is Error Bars.

Love your spearmint.
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Old Lurker

You got the "ho" half right Janet. Those letters fir into the actual accurate name quite nicely.

 Ann

Fleas are now crapping on USA Flag:

http://toddkinsey.com/blog/2011/10/10/tea-party-vs-occupy-wall-street-in-pictures/

(Maybe we should just call them fleacrappers)

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Got to run to the doctors. See you guys tonight. What really makes me mad is these same people are banning inhalers which I need now. SOB

Appalled

Ben:

Being a Georgia voter, my options are limited by what the people in Iowa, NH, SC and Florida do. So I honestly have not thought about it. My guess is that I'll end up with Romney, but I might be persuaded by Cain. I think Perry is no way, no how.

Janet

Answer the experimenter, d#*n you! He's trying to benefit your mind by exercising it. You should be grateful.

Army of Davids

I live in Los Angeles these days.

But my heart is still in the South.

Herman Cain will do well in the South (look for him to make his move in South Carolina and Florida) and I hope that conservatives/libertarians take note that this is not the 60s anymore.

That respect for Southern history and leaving the racist past behind can both be accomplished.

Cain/Coburn 2012

I may change back to Cain/Rubio 2012 tomorrow. Who knows.

The beltway media does not see this coming. And Democrats are even further behind.

centralcal

Cross posting - Rush just announced that Chris Christie will be at Dartmouth debate to endorse Romney.

Benjamin Franklin

I can see Romney, but how is Cain your refrain from Obama?

 Ann

My as well advertise for them:

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Occupiers

Appalled

BF:

He probably isn't. I'm not that familiar with him. I didn't listen to his radio show -- preferring to listen to baseball when washing the dishes.

Army of Davids

Based on content of character and not color of skin.. Ben.

Army of Davids

On Pelosi

The history of that racist smear baiting Tea Party walkthrough prior to ObamaCare.

Pelosi didn't have to do that.

Calculated Saul Alinsky behavior.

Good for the crowd...they were disciplined.

Pelosi, of course, lied about it.

Rick Ballard

OL,

The Human Events piece on SunPower was OK but they missed the part about the project not being able to generate enough electricity to cover the interest payments. (see comments at 8:55, 9:26 and 9:42).

Benjamin Franklin

"Pelosi, of course, lied about it."

I'm sorry I didn't notice there were politicians who don't learn early that the only path to keeping their job, or getting it in the first place, is to lie like a dog.

Or get mad.

Drink water, Ann.
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Four blind mice.

Heh, the rats are always right.
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Jack is Back!

Any indication that Romney is McCain redux has now been confirmed by the Christie endorsement. I wonder if Palin will now come out for Perry or Cain?

Jane

Eric holder is having a press conference at 2:00

Porchlight

Rush just announced that Chris Christie will be at Dartmouth debate to endorse Romney.

I knew it would be Romney. There was a conversation about it last Monday (might have been here or at HotAir), where IIRC some Christie supporters were denying that possibility.

centralcal

It sounds like they (R elites) want this "wrapped up" by tonite's debate. Romney is their pick and they want to get on with it.

JiB - I am not sure that Cain isn't part of the plan. Not sure Palin will endorse him.

centralcal

Romney-Christie to have joint press conference today at 3PM.

I hope the Tea Party folks wake up to the manipulation going on here.

Cecil Turner

I guess Pelosi being a crook isn't remarkable enough to remark upon. Works for me.

If Palin endorses anyone, I'd expect it to be Perry. But that probably requires a decent debate performance (or at least a shift in the momentum).

Porchlight

Palin will probably endorse Perry, but not for awhile yet. He will have to earn it.

Old Lurker

Rick, as an old real estate guy raised on cash flow and debt service coverage ratios, not to mention signing personally so the bank could take all my toys should the projected debt service coverage not actually materialize when promised...I just cannot wrap my head around the mindset of these "Government Lenders" or their borrowers.

Appalled

I hope the Tea Party folks wake up to the manipulation going on here.

What manipulation is that? That Romney is trying to win the nomination? What do you expect him to do? Tug his forelock, endorse Sarah, and spend more time with his family?

Porchlight

From Josh Marshall - Holder presser today at 2 pm EST to announce "a 'significant national security enforcement action,' according to a release."

daddy

Good morning.

Have you guys seen this one yet from Nancy's good buddy Barbara Boxer: EPA rules provide "business with the opportunity to develop, construct and sell new and cleaner products."

Maybe we should call them "federal opportunities" instead of "federal regulations"?

Army of Davids

I'm particularly interested in 2 things.

Cain's polling numbers w/ Tea Party folks.

Cain's polling numbers in the South vs the North.

Very much goes against the beltway meme that it is about race.

It is not about race. It is about content of character and quality of ideas.


Having said that I would love to beat up on the media (and the beltway politicians) w/ race card blowback in an Obama/Biden vs Cain/Rubio race.

Army of Davids

Good for you Ben...

We always want to endorse the most dishonest of politicians.

Sue

Porch,

I'm starting to think this is a plot. On the day Issa is supposed to announce subpoenas, Holder has a press conference to announce a major terrorist plot involving Iran and Saudi Arabia. I think it was you that I was trying to convince a few weeks ago that we had to believe them. No longer.

Porchlight

I think it was you that I was trying to convince a few weeks ago that we had to believe them.

Sue, whom do you mean by "them"? Issa et al?

Stephanie

Must chime in... I know Herman Cain. He isn't anyone's stalking horse or manipulator. He ran for senate in Georgia and had been a local radio personality for some many years first ad a fill in for Boortz and later with his own show until he decided to run for president.

You can rest easy that hetman us doing it because he thinks he can make a course correction in thus country and he isn't blinkered to the pitfalls that Washington engenders.

He ain't nobody's fool. And he relishes being misunderestimated. Romney's got his hands full with Herman and he's gonna trip over his own suavity and sleekness.

Stephanie

Ignore the typos as I'm on the iPhone. YMVVW

Sue

Porch,

Them as in the man-child and his posse.

Sue

I kind of still like Romney. I was really pulling for him last time around.

narciso

Well this doesn't make F&F, look better but worse, it seems a little convoluted though,

Gmax

Holder really does think we are THAT stupid. And why is Gitmo still open, btw?

Porchlight

Them as in the man-child and his posse.

Okay. Sorry, I'm not clear on what we needed to believe them about. I definitely believe they are going to be tough to beat, if that's what you're thinking of. Although I might have argued otherwise earlier. ;)

Jane

I hope the Tea Party folks wake up to the manipulation going on here.

I too want to know what manipulation you think is happening Centralcal.

And I also question the timing of this press conference. They sure as hell better ask him some questions on F&F.

Does this administration ever do anything on time.

Sue

Porch,

It probably wasn't you. There was an announcement a few weeks ago about a terror threat, I think around 9/11, and I wanted to believe the man-child that the threat was real not a wag the dog moment to deflect from Solyndra and F&F.

NK

Old Lurker-- you don't get the deals made between government lenders and subsidized businesses because you are obviously an honest man who is accustomed to dealing with other honest people. These Obama cronie loan guarantees are strictly political, meaning they are corrupt to the core.

narciso

That Nowrouz letter, genius I tell you, so was letting the Green Revolution die on the vine, btw.

fdcol63

So, let me get this straight:

The GOP elites want to capitalize on the anti-Obama sentiment that was stirred up by ObamaCare by .... running the guy whose state model was the blueprint for ObamaCare?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44854320/ns/politics-decision_2012/#.TpRZHOvgKRs

And some say liberals suffer from cognitive dissonance?

Janet

Here is a local live feed of Holder.

Porchlight

Ah, it may not have been me, Sue.

Jane, for what it's worth, I think Romney and Christie had this all worked out well in advance of Christie's announcement that he was done pretending to consider a run. This was a gambit to keep others out of the race, which may or may not have worked; I can't say b/c I'm not privy to the particulars of Palin's decision. I certainly thought at the time that it wouldn't work, and I was wrong. So there's no need to believe me. ;)

But I do think Christie will be rewarded with a spot in the Romney administration, if there is one.

Sandy Daze

Cain/Coburn 2012 . . .?
Cain/Rubio 2012 . . .?

or
Cain/Palin 2012 . . .?

ABO~OMG,
Sandy

centralcal

"Manipulation" was in reference to the Republican establishment (RNC, etc) and beltway elites who feel that only their all knowing wisdom should pick our candidate.

It was in no way in reference to Cain. Right now he is gaining popularity, but not strong enough to manipulate anything.

Danube of Thought

Good to see you, Ann.

matt

It would seem that most of the senior Democratic delegation in California is on the take and really don't care who knows it. Kevin Johnson, the former NBA star and current Sacramento mayor, likes underage girls.

We have several scandals breaking in Los Angeles related to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (formerly known on his d/l as Tony Villar, no lie.

Governor Moonbeam just signed into law a preferential scholarship opportunity for illegal immigrants to solidify the Latino vote as well as forbidding the police from confiscating the cars of illegal immigrants arrested at checkpoints for drunk driving.

What makes this despicable is that there have been several vehicular homicides by those same drunk drivers afterwards.

This state has become a cesspool of corruption.

fdcol63

Interesting ... an Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador here in the US.

Janet

This press conference is odd. ???? Why does this twarted crime get a press conference on TV?

Now some questions....

Captain Hate

And some say liberals suffer from cognitive dissonance?

That's why they're the party of stoopid. And having that fat turd Christie endorsing Mittens just makes me dislike him more. Tammy Bruce just made the excellent point that Perry is being poorly served by aides telling him he has to act more like Reagan. Bullshit detectors should be triggered by any activity to not act like himself. Like we don't have enough phonies in politics....

Btw, the WSJ has an article blaming Preznit Malaise for the campaign season being so long for the way he parked his worthless carcass in Iowa for months to build up support. Of course that was in the 70s when everything went to Hell.

Danube of Thought

Iran has committed numerous acts of war against the US. I can't recall anything like this having been done with such impunity. Not sure exactly what should be done...

fdcol63

Watch. Holder will try to tie this Iranian/Saudi assassination plot into F&F.

Dave (in MA)

Janet: Operation:Change the Subject. A well-worn technique honed by the Cigar Shover during his myriad scandals.

Captain Hate

forbidding the police from confiscating the cars of illegal immigrants arrested at checkpoints for drunk driving.

I'm incredulous that everybody isn't up in arms about this.

fdcol63

One thing is certain: Failure to punish Iran severely, somehow and someway, will signal weakness on our part and encourage more of this crap from Iran and other potential enemies.

Captain Hate

Time for some SMART DIPLOMACY

narciso

So all we need is a former Gitmo detainee involved in this, and all the administration's footfalls, would come 'home
to roost'

The Sauds complaints about the Iranian bomb,
in wikileaks, the holding actions in Bahrain, the protests about the ousting of
Mubarak, the fact that Seif Al Adel, was sheltered there for a time, and he had coordinated the bombings in Saudi all add up to a motive.

fdcol63

"Time for some SMART DIPLOMACY"

Please, I can't stand Hillary's cackling. LOL

Sandy Daze

DoT @ 1427: If the USG can 'legally' assassinate US citizens, then surely it would be 'legal' to assassinate * Ahmadinejad in response?

*The encumbrances of Executive Order 12333 notwithstanding. . .

Charlie (Colorado)

I'm incredulous that everybody isn't up in arms about this.

I agree: this nonsense of police confiscation without charges has to stop.

Janet

Hasn't Iran been killing our soldiers over in Iraq....letting that ugly cuss, Muck al Sadr hide in Iran....

Why be outraged now?

daddy

The UK Mail online tells us that a tell-all book about Anthony Weiner is forthcoming from one of his sexting partners, 35 year old "cheerleading coach" Traci. Looks like it is going to be graphic, and disgusting (ie: Weiner proudly admits doing what we expected he did in the halls of Congress).

Obviously I am not going to read it, but I mention it because I am interested in seeing if the MSM, which is so interested in airing every dirty, unsubstantiated innuendo imaginable about Sarah Palin, will give this thing any press whatever, especially since it appears it is all based on the actual photos and texts the author received from Weiner himself.

My guess is that the MSM in America, in true double standard fashion, buries it completely.

Sue

You know, thinking about that picture Ann posted above, how would you like to know that was your son, your brother, your husband, your father with his britches down, crapping in public. Forget the flag he desecrates for a moment and think about the act itself. My father in law used to jokingly say "they should have killed him when he was a baby" about people he considered morons. I was always kind of offended by that remark. Funny how it seems appropriate now.

Danube of Thought

I'm not sure, Sandy. If we had clear and convincing proof that Ahmadinejad was the one who authorized this attempt, I would say yes.

Wars have been started for less. I don't think that Gavrilo Prinzip's attack was ever tied to any government, but it plunged an entire continent into war.

Sandy Daze

Racist Republicans Flocking to Cain
excerpt:

Unless there has been a heretofore unnoticed surge of Black voters into the ranks of the South Carolina GOP, this means that one out of every four voters in the most conservative electorate in the United States are now ready to vote for a Black candidate for president. This should not be all that surprising; the conservative backed governor in South Carolina is of Indian descent, and the voters of Charleston have sent a Black Republican to Congress. It would be hard to find a district of liberal whites who have such a consistently cosmopolitan voting record.

hmmmmmmm. . .

Sue

Oh, and the picture wasn't taken at OWS. It was taken in 2007. From the author at the link at Ann's post above.

Charlie (Colorado)

Why be outraged now?

How about "still"?

Sue

The current law in California allows police to confiscate cars of any unlicensed driver. Regardless of their race or sobriety.

Benjamin Franklin

You teatards are just too ignorant to argue with.

Can't we all get along?

Fuck the Jews, and piss on bad and PUK. The Jews deserved to burn in Herr Fuhrer's ovens, and bad and PUK deserve to be burning in hell.

And again, I demand that you all immediately denounce the behavior that I've polluted this blog with for the last decade, or I'll send my imaginary son who died in Afghanistan / Iraq / Libya to hunt you down and kill you.

Where's my Thorazine?

Captain Hate

this nonsense of police confiscation without charges has to stop.

Is this Dana doing more sockpuppeting?

Benjamin Franklin

You teatards are just too ignorant to argue with.

Can't we all get along?

Fuck the Jews, and piss on bad and PUK. The Jews deserved to burn in Herr Fuhrer's ovens, and bad and PUK deserve to be burning in hell.

And again, I demand that you all immediately denounce the behavior that I've polluted this blog with for the last decade, or I'll send my imaginary son who died in Afghanistan / Iraq / Libya to hunt you down and kill you.

Where's my Thorazine?

Sandy Daze

Janet - Well before the Iraq Campaign, on 13 Nov 95, Iran attacked the US at the Khobar Towers complex in KSA, killing 19 Americans, one Saudi and wounding 372.

fdcol63

Prediction: Chris Christie's endorsement of Romney will backfire on him just like Charlie Crist's endorsement of McCain in 2008 backfired on him.

Jane

ABO~OMG,

The bumper stickers have arrived. I will let you all know when there is a link of YOu TOO.

It's actually OMG-ABO

Sue

fdcol63,

That's kind of what I was thinking.

Jane

Call me jaded, but I think this plot was announced today, so Holder can say he's been way too busy to pay attention to the mere murder of border guards and Mexicans (altho the link to the Mexican cartel may screw him up.)

And I loved Obama's response about how busy Holder is. As far as I'm concerned, that's the give away.

Danube of Thought

I'd be interested to hear how others believe the US should respond to Iran.

Sandy Daze

Well, DoT, do you think there has to be a direct linkage to Amenanutjob in order to assassinate him? I take your point about Prinzip, but in a more general sense, the Iranian government has been at war with the USA for decades. . . If a narrow (but effective), errr "sanitary" (minimum collateral damage) targeted assassination attempt is too pointed, what would you say to a general carpet bombing of the Iranian Parliament? It would not precisely target whomever it may be that is responsible, but it is in accord with the IBM strategy*


*Inshallah, Buquarrah, Mafimushkala (Godwilling, tomorrow, no problem). . .

Clarice

what makes me laugh is the reports that Romney's doing swell in NH. This is a surprise to anyone/ It's like saying a kennedy is doing well in Mass.

I don't know that the Christie endorsement adds much, do you? He has a compelling personality and did well against the public employee unions, but he really isn't tea party members cup of oolong on the big economic and govt issues.

boris

" how others believe the US should respond to Iran"

Take away their ability to make weapons grade nuclear materials.

Sandy Daze

ABO~OMG or OMG-ABO ?

toemaytoe or tomahtoe

Great news Jane !

Sue

Cain and Romney are sharing a dressing room tonight. And Cain would be VP for anyone but Perry. I'm starting to wonder who gave Perry cooties.

Old Lurker

Me too fdcol.

Clarice

Any moment now our long last pal will show up claiming this is an Israeli plot to tar Iran.
Well, I'm glad we caught it.. I'm three blocks from the Israeli consulate and three blocks in the other direction from the Israeli Ambassador's residence.

Sue

I mean, really, Perry has been the governor of a red, red, red, state for 12 years. He survived a primary against a pretty popular senator. He beat a very popular democrat. And suddenly, he isn't conservative enough? And Cain, the conservative in favor, would support Romney but not Perry? Something isn't right with this picture on Cain.

Charlie (Colorado)

Is this Dana doing more sockpuppeting?

No, you're just not quick enough to catch on that I actually do oppose the government being able to confiscate cars without charges or a trial.

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