The Iranian Plot - I Sense The Outrage From The Left

The FBI press release includes an interesting detail about the arrest of one of the suspects in the alleged Iranian assassination plot:

On Sept. 29, 2011, Arbabsiar was arrested by federal agents during a flight layover at JFK International Airport in New York. Several hours after his arrest, Arbabsiar was advised of his Miranda rights and he agreed to waive those rights and speak with law enforcement agents. During a series of Mirandized interviews, Arbabsiar allegedly confessed to his participation in the murder plot.

"Several hours"?  Hard to believe they were just standing by the luggage carousel waiting for his bags.

Back when the Underwear Bomber was arrested Holder took a lot of flack for Mirandizing the suspect too quickly.  Evidently, that lesson has been learned.

Comments

[NK]

There must be some mistake. It's 2011, almost 3 full years into the Reign of His Royal Highness Barry I, the Prince of Illinois, the Duke of ChiTown, the Baron of Burnham Park, the Son of Heaven, and Bringer of the Light, who stopped the Seas from rising, and the ice cap from melting -- THE ONE. The ONE explained to us in 2008 that the Mullahs are just like the Nuns in the Convent of the Sacred Heart, they are men of peace and harmony, who were rightly frightened of the deposed and despised Emperor BOOOSH 43, leader of the Evil Unilateral Empire. With the ONe in power the Mullahs would flower into a thousand songs of peace and good will, emnity and distrust would evaporate and Americans and the Mullahs would sing Kumbaya in 3 part harmony, all of this would be bestowed upon us by Barry I, peace be upon his name. How then 3 years later can it be that the Mullahs are alleged by Barry I's trusted bodyguard the "Dread Pirate Eric" Holder to be plotters to turn the White City DC into a shooting gallery to spatter some Saudi Princlings? There is evil dark magic at work here, the blessings of Barry I have be befouled by some demon-- where's Cheney?

[Jane]

The ABO dumper stickers are in. Order them here.

[steve]

According to the FBI, he only 'allegedly' confessed? Reporters have to say that, as they weren't privy to the proceeding, but wouldn't the FBI know whether he had or hadn't confessed?

And if the FBI was ready to arrest him, why not do so before he left for Mexico, eliminating the risk that he could have slipped away in Mexico?

And while I have no love for the Iranian regime, other than the unsubstantiated bragging of the suspect, what is there to support the allegation that they were involved?

[Extraneus]

The Abbot of Altgeld Gardens?

[Captain Hate]

The Icon of Indonesian?

[Jane]

I guess that should be "bumper".

[Captain Hate]

Indonesia

[Threadkiller]

--"And if the FBI was ready to arrest him, why not do so before he left for Mexico, eliminating the risk that he could have slipped away in Mexico?"--

Fatwa & Furious

[Threadkiller]

--"And if the FBI was ready to arrest him, why not do so before he left for Mexico, eliminating the risk that he could have slipped away in Mexico?"--

Fatwa & Furious

[Cecil Turner]

Two things leap out of the press release: 1) the dumbing down of "WMD" to mean (apparently) anything that explodes; and 2) the unsuitability of criminal procedures when handling what amounts to a proxy war by Iran.

In the first case, we fail to distinguish between an attack that could kill thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of Americans and a mideast style suicide bomber. I think most people will agree that we're willing to allow authorities more leeway in apprehending the former, but would balk at general use of expanded police powers for more mundane crimes. It parallels the Patriot Act debate, and subsequent application of those powers most frequently (AIUI) against drug dealers.

The second issue is also problematic. The criminal system is designed [intentionally] to favor criminals in matters of evidence and procedure (the ol' "better to let ten guilty men go free than convict one innocent"). This approach does not make sense when the "criminal" is an enemy combatant with the resources of a foreign state bent on mass mayhem. And the wrongheaded approach to what amounts to warfare will doubtless continue as long as we have lawyers in charge of every branch of government.

[Extraneus]

Imagine how the politicization of Iraq would have gone if we had only known that the legal definition of a WMD covers simple bombs.

[Sue]

Or put more simply, The Man Child.

[Clarice]

Look at the bright side of this, guys..It keeps the FBI too busy to continue outing its own informers like Bjornsdottir.

[rse]

OT but I just knew you would want to know Pitzer made the list of America's most expensive colleges. It came in at #20 with tuition, room and board of $54,988. LUN

There was a well known, well regarded, southern college last year that received national publicity for cutting its tuition by 10% saying the increases simply had become untenable. Picked up national coverage. An interesting criticism was the idea that the college should have kept tuition higher so it could redistribute difference in more scholarships to the less affluent.

Kim-Did you ever see the ad for what Dartmouth pays their Director of Sustainability? And those benefits.

[Danube of Thought]

Minus 16 at Raz today.

[narciso]

This does not look like a terribly well thought out plan, more like what 'Nate'
instead of Michael Westen could cook up.
'facepalm with a sturgeon'

[Sue]

Minus 16 at Raz today.

I can't figure that out.

[Ranger]

Keep in mind that the Iranians have had two American "hostages" for a long time. I don't think it is just a coincidence that the arrest here was delayed until after the American hikers were free.

[Cecil Turner]

I can't figure that out.

Might be dismay over the GOP alternatives on display.

[Extraneus]

Simultaneous uptick in approval and down-tick in disapproval.

[Clarice]

Columbus Day weekend and football.

[MarkO]

Minus 16? Hell, we've not bled enough. We can all join together and refuse to vote if we don't get our way. Maybe that will get him in plus territory. For everyone who loves Sarah, someone else would refuse to vote for her. I've even read that we might enjoy Obama as president with both houses in GOP hands. Like that would happen.

Doom.

[Clarice]

rse, I have always admired Rice's policy:All endowment money goes to keep the tuition costs down. If the university needs capital improvements those must be raised by separate fund raising. IMO it's the best major private institution for middle class kids.

[Army of Davids]

Ah...the smell of presidential weakness in the morning.

[Appalled]

From our local newspaper, what's going on with the Occupy Atlanta crowd, who have been communicating with Mayor Reed:

Reed said the protesters have presented him with a list of demands. They want the park renamed for Troy Anthony Davis, the man executed last month for murdering a Savannah police officer. Second, the protesters want Reed to camp with them overnight in the park. Third, they want assurances that they won’t be arrested.

Reed said he was praying about whether he should sleep in the park. But he refused to give assurances that no one would be arrested.

As for renaming Woodruff Park? “That’s not going to happen,” Reed said.

[Jack is Back!]

Another one for TK, when he gets in:

Someone sent me this in an email:)

"This just might make your day a little brighter!! You, who
worry about democrats versus republicans -- relax, here is our real problem.

In a Purdue University classroom, they were discussing the
qualifications to be President of the United States . It was pretty simple. The candidate must be a natural born citizen of at least 35 years of age. However, one girl in the class immediately started in on how unfair was the requirement to be a natural born citizen.

In short, her opinion was that this requirement prevented
many capable individuals from becoming president. The class was taking it in and letting her rant, and not many jaws hit the floor when she wrapped up her argument by stating,

"What makes a natural born citizen any more qualified to
lead this country than one born by C-section?"

WE NEED MORE HELP THAN WE THOUGHT WE DID!"

[Sustainability and species diversity are the fields. More of both in a warmer world.]

Ah done pay them nawthuwn injuns much mind, rse; can't read the lighting bolt except when it strikes.
====================

[narciso]

I figure that's mostly liberal willing to kick the football, yet again, before they get the chiropractor bills, look at the trendline not the blip.

Now you tell me though, that Sarah could not have a good a job, or better on that stage,

[Ranger]

Via Instapundit this morning:

Obama Tried to Apologize to Japan for the Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Too bad simple stupidity isn't an impeachable offense.

[Comanche Voter]

In the spirit of "it is what it is", let's just call King Barry I "Twit".

[jimmyk]

I guess that should be "bumper".

I thought "dumper" was perfect, Jane.

[Jane]

In the good news department: ERic Holder just got served with one big-ass subpoena. His only defense at this point is Executive Order. I guess we will soon find out one way or the other Obama's involvement.

[Danube of Thought]

"other than the unsubstantiated bragging of the suspect, what is there to support the allegation that they were involved?"

There's the $100K that was wired to him.

[Jane]

Executive PRIVILEGE no order.

[fdcol63]

"I guess we will soon find out one way or the other Obama's involvement."

Oh, I imagine Holder would lie out his butt to protect Obama.

[fdcol63]

I still wonder what, exactly, Sandy Berger removed from the National Archives.

Whatever it was, it was important and damaging enough to him or Clinton to risk it.

[narciso]

So, Shahlai, the QUDS force official directly involved, was also the one that ran that operation in Karbala in 2007, that abducted those US soldiers there, including
one graduate of West Point '05.

[Danube of Thought]

Must-see: Drudge's side-by-side Obama pics.

[PD]

I guess that should be "bumper".

Not if the goal is to dump Obama.

[Neo]

A heretofore secret cable dated Sept. 3, 2009, was recently released by WikiLeaks. Sent to Secretary of State Clinton, it reported Japan's Vice Foreign Minister Mitoji Yabunaka telling U.S. Ambassador John Roos that "the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a 'nonstarter.'"

[NK]

Jane-- Holder will just use all of those old Clinton Exec Priv defenses, with a Nat'l Security twist to evade all of the DC Circuit precedent that went against Clinton. Holder has to hold out(note the aliteration) for 15 months then this nightmare of an Administration ends and Bam signs blanket pardons for all F & F miscreants. Blind man can see all this in a minute.

[Jane]

The thing is NK, I think the only one who can use executive privilege is Obama which as far as I am concerned will implicate him.

I suspect you are right about how it will play out, however will the rest of them be willing to risk a perjury prosecution - like Lannie Brewer. DO they question Obama's loyalty?

[Janet]

Whatever it was, it was important and damaging enough to him or Clinton to risk it.

Yeah fdcol63. How was that not a huge story?
I think that story would be an interesting study on the MFM - Democrat relationship. The story was not printed until months after it occurred. How could the local WaPo not know?...they had to know.

[Jane]

I'm probably nuts but I think Issa has all the info he needs and this is just a set up. At least I hope it is.

[NK]

Jane-- I don't question the fact that the Exec Priviliges defenses will fail and look bad -- no question of that. But that's not the point. The point is to delay delay delay, and do you think the characters who cooked up a scheme to but semi-automatic weapons into the hands of mexican murderers have a problem making frivolous legal claims?

[henry]

Don't worry ... if Holder stalls the Dems in WI have a plan to keep popcorn sales up. The Recall Walker effort will launch Nov 15 (the first day he is eligible) with petition signing through Jan 15 -- just over 560k signatures needed. All analysts think they will get enough valid signatures. While they are at it, they will attempt to recall any R Senators not recalled earlier this year.

The trick is to get the signatures before people find out that property taxes went down as a result of Walker's reforms, the bills come out late Dec.

[NK]

I am worst typist evah : but = put into the hands...

[Janet]

53 come to OccupyDC.

"To swell their ranks, protesters recruited the homeless to camp with them."

Milbank must be disgusted with the Occupiers because there was a time when he got excited about like 6 people from Code Pink showing up to throw shoes at a W cutout.

[centralcal]

Drudge links to Washington Whispers with a report on an interesting poll.

Poll: Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney All Beat Obama

Despite several bad debate performances by Perry in September, when respondents watched a clip of the Texas governor, he actually gained more support than any of the other candidates and beat Obama by 6-points, 42-36.

[PD]

Attention car buyers!

GM announces Chevy Spark fully electric car

And, if you like me had this question spring to mind immediately:

"GM has not yet announced details such as the car's driving range, price or in what markets it might be sold."

[PD]

And in other GM news, also on the theme of energy conservation:

GM to unveil 580 horsepower Camaro convertible

[Sue]

I'm going to go back again to Cain and Perry. I want every one of the candidates to say, without hesitation, they will support the republican nominee and will do everything in their power to get that nominee elected. That Cain can't and won't say that about a very conservative governor from a very conservative state, bothers me. He can go toe to toe with Perry on every single issue, but at the end of the day he needs to say that Perry would be better for this country than Obama and he would support him as the nominee. Why won't he?

[NK]

PD-- sign me up for the Camaro 580HP convertible, my wife can keep the 418HP Mustang GT convertible....

[fdcol63]

But they never tell you whether those are strong, fast horses or old nags headed to the glue factory. LOL

[Extraneus]

Interesting study of the Bush Administration, too. How could they have allowed it to be hushed up?

[centralcal]

That bothers me too, Sue. Do you think maybe Cain really does believe Perry might be racist or something? I mean, what else could it be?

[Extraneus]

Whoops. Last comment was in response to Janet re: Sandy Berger.

[Gmax]

Ron Paul endorsed Cynthia McKinney amoung several others last time, so he definitely wont take you pledge Sue.

[Rick Ballard]

"what else could it be?"

Subornation with an eye on the VP slot. Romney is running a fairly sophisticated campaign and Cain has a definite role in it.

I wish watching Romney did not have the same effect on me as watching a weasel working a hen house but perhaps... Nah - he's an oligarch weasel working every crack in every board.

[Sandy Daze]

horses or sheep, slightly off-topic:

[pagar]

"Poll: Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney All Beat Obama"

I wonder if the Romney supporters know:

"Gina McCarthy, the chief EPA clean air regulator, also worked as an environmental regulator for then-Governor Romney. Her role now is as point guard (nyuk) in the Obama Administrations fight to make coal fired electric generating plants extinct."

"Another Romney environmental adviser in the effort to regulate “greenhouse gases” is now Obama’s Director of Science and Technology Policy, John Holdren. Dr. Holdren has some exotic views:"

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2011/10/07/mitt-romneys-troubling-appointments/

IMO, these are two of the evil persons
in the Obama Regime and they came from the Romney camp.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Two things leap out of the press release: 1) the dumbing down of "WMD" to mean (apparently) anything that explodes; and 2) the unsuitability of criminal procedures when handling what amounts to a proxy war by Iran.

Cecil, not to claim it's not stupid, but that definition is in the law under which he was charged.

Look at it this way: now we know that Saddam definitely did have WMDs.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Minus 16 at Raz today.

Statistical noise.

[DebinNC]

One of Cain's strengths - straight talk - is also a snare. He's often too glib, throwing out spur of the moment one-liners that make me wince and come back to haunt him. He rightly prides himself on his leadership skills, but he seems to think leaders don't apologize or admit they were mistaken. Once we have a nominee, I'll be ABO. Right now I'm for the last person standing between me and Romney winning the nomination.

[Sue]

I keep waiting for Perry to get pissed off. I would stand up and applaud if he would just get angry and say something like

'in the span of 3 weeks, these people on this stage, the MSM and the elite in Washington have made me to the left of Romney, have made me a racist, have made me someone who supports illegal immigration, none of which is true. I am in a state that sends republicans to Washington and 3 people voted against in-state tuition, 10 years ago. Not one of you sitting here on this stage have had to deal with illegal immigration on the scale that I have in my state. Romney wants me to insure them, apparently, but not educate them. I mean, why else would he make a statement that there are 1,000,000 uninsured children in my state. Does he have any idea how many of those 1,000,000 are here illegally? And the federal government won't do there job so I have to deal with it. Send your buses down here and I'll ship them off to you and let you deal with them. Seems you folks here have a better idea than the State of Texas does on what to do with them. I am having to defend myself on Gardasil while Romney sits there, the author of Obamacare, and gets a pass'.

Something. Anything. What does he have to lose now? Get pissed because they have made him unacceptable as the conservative candidate. Anyway, I'm wishing for something that isn't going to happen, apparently.

[Neo]

Solar in jeopardy Downunder

THE runaway take-up of rooftop solar panels is undermining the quality of electricity supplies, feeding so much power back into the network that it is stressing the system and causing voltage rises that could damage household devices such as computers and televisions.

One of Australia's biggest electricity network providers, Ausgrid, yesterday warned that there was a "significant likelihood" that costs would have to rise because of the impact of the solar photovoltaic cells.

[matt]

I'm not buying into this one just yet. It doesn't fit the Iranian model all that well. The Syrians did Hariri in, but he was the one standing in their way in Lebanon.

The Iranians tend to work through Shiite minorities directly in those countries where they live and at best train or facilitate terrorists whom they view as useful.

What do they benefit by assassinating the Saudi ambassador in Washington? What problem does it solve for any of the factions within Iran?

It does solve a problem for Eric Holder, though.

I am as suspicious of these people as I have ever been of any administration, and it is wise to be suspicious of even the best intentions by a benign administration. These people ain't benign.

Fast & Furious demonstrates at a minimum the willingness to accept fatalities from an incredibly ill conceived and badly botched law enforcement program.It is the drunk ugly fat man at the party, and Eric Holder is a marked man politically.

The administration has shown repeatedly that it will use any means necessary to further its agenda, and I'll bet they have a few copies of Wag the Dog in their DVD collection.

[rse]

Oh that sheep is funny.

Yes Clarice. Rice does do a fine job of keeping its prices down. We have some friends in Fla whose son ended up there after I kept lobbying for him to add it to his list. Mine is using his AP Chem skills to understand why those explosives work so well. Ah well. The chapter I am writing now will explain precisely what changed and why and when in higher ed. It has to be told but these kids will discover they are blaming the wrong people for their fate.

Kim-We both looked at Latour but he is hardly alone is wanting to move away from anthropocentrism. I have read that it was John Dewey that pushed the idea of tenure. Lots of deeply subversive ideas are now pushed using it as a shield.

[pagar]

"IMO, these are two of the evil persons"

should read these are two of the MOST evil persons

[DebinNC]

Perry's not unacceptable to me as long as Romney is in the top 3. He's got enough money to stay in a long time and turn things around. Whether he can muster the energy is another thing though.

[Danube of Thought]

I think the ramifications of this plot are huge. Imagine if Iran can enlist agents to detonate a weapon in Washington, D.C. Now imagine that six months later they successfully detonate a nuclear weapon. Conclusion: they can detonate a nuclear weapon in Washington any time they choose to.

There is also the matter of their evident indifference to any potential US reaction. It seems clear they have calculated that they are facing an exhausted nation that they need not fear.

[Sue]

Deb,

My problem with Perry now is if he won't say these things to fellow republicans, what makes me think he'll say them to Obama? I want him to fight, fight, fight. I thought he would. I'm very disappointed in his performances at these debates.

[centralcal]

Get pissed because they have made him unacceptable as the conservative candidate.

Not quite, Sue, but definitely trying to make him unacceptable. Still glimmers of hope. Even at NRO's little on-line poll, Perry beats Romney.

The poll I linked to earlier (from Drudge) says that people not tuned in this early to candidates watched videos of Romney, Cain and Perry before making their choice. All three beat Obama - Perry did very well.

This morning, while getting ready for work, I had the TV on in the background and heard a very forceful commercial for Perry by the Tea Party Express.

So, I still have hope that we won't be stuck with Romney as our only choice, despite the big moneyed elites' push to make him so.

[Danube of Thought]

A painful refresher on Obama's feckless approach to the reality of Iran.

[Danube of Thought]

Ccal, I've never heard of that polling outfit before, and I'd like to know some of the internals of the sample as well as the content of the clips they were shown.

I still think that at this point the most significant--maybe the only significant--polling fact is that in every poll, head-to-head or generic GOP vs. Obama, Obama never gets out of the low 40's.

[DebinNC]

I want him to fight, fight, fight.

Have you seen him in fighting mode over the years? Maybe there's a feisty Perry we just haven't seen. Great ads can't replace the impression a real, semi-live Perry makes on voters watching the debates or reading the conservative pundit reactions the next day.

[Sue]

Deb,

Yes. He is feisty. I'm not sure what is going on. Too much handling maybe? Anyway, I won't fall off the cliff if Romney is the nominee, but I'm kind of pissed at Herman Cain.

[MarkO]

"they have calculated that they are facing an exhausted nation that they need not fear."

Not so fast, my friend with crawling skin, I understand that Obama and Holder are seeking---wait----treble damages against Iran. See?

[Sue]

GMax,

Ron Paul is not on my radar. I really don't care who he endorses. ::grin::

[Sue]

Treble damages? Oh my!

[Jane]

It seems clear they have calculated that they are facing an exhausted nation that they need not fear.

And there we have Obama's legacy (if any of us are alive to see it).

[Danube of Thought]

Perhaps they will ask Iran to extradite the wrongdoers.

[Danube of Thought]

I have very vivid memories of the JFK administration making public the evidence it had concerning Soviet missiles in Cuba. I know there are always concerns about "sources and methods," but I would dearly love to know more about what details our government has.

[Thomas Collins]

I must be watching different debates from the rest of the nation. I think Perry's demeanor and presentation is exactly what is needed in a POTUS. His presentation on entitlements is strong enough so that if elected, he won't be able to back off. I think he intends that to show how serious he is. As far as demeanor, he impresses me as someone who doesn't have to engage in histrionics, someone who is solid but doesn't go out of his way to impress. My opinion of him as a result of watching the debates has improved.

With Romney, we will get some budget deal that the sclerotic establishment will approve of, and we will continue to go the way of Europe. Perhaps Perry won't be able to reverse that decline; however, except for Palin, he is the best bet for those of us who want to see our slide into a European social therapy state reversed, and Palin is not an option this time.

[Dave (in MA)]

A heretofore secret cable dated Sept. 3, 2009, was recently released by WikiLeaks. Sent to Secretary of State Clinton, it reported Japan's Vice Foreign Minister Mitoji Yabunaka telling U.S. Ambassador John Roos that "the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a 'nonstarter.'"

I wonder if they then apologized for bringing it up.

[centralcal]

DoT: Evolving Strategies (the polling firm) actually used the Fox-Google debate for their poll. Recall, this was the debate where Perry supposedly tanked big time over the immigration issue (you have no heart)

Here is a link to a Power Point presentation showing how it worked. Also, there is also a link on the page to the cross tabs.

[Neo]

GM announces Chevy Spark fully electric car

I can see it now .. when the first failure of a Chevy Spark causes some electrical problem, they will be dubbing these things "Old Sparky" .. like that electric chairs in Arkansas, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, New York, Texas, and Virginia.

[centralcal]

oops left out: clips of the exchanges between Perry and Romney during the Fox Google debate

[Manuel Transmission]

OT -- LightSquared:

Finally, it looks like a little pushback...

Federal Agencies: LightSquared Unacceptable Safety, Environmental, Economic Consequences (LUN)

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) impact statement is the strongest. The FAA stated, among many other findings, that the LightSquared proposal would cost the aviation community at least $72 billion, preclude elimination/reduction of an estimated 794 air-traffic fatalities over the next 10 years, set back planned air-traffic safety and efficiency measures by that same period, affect U.S. leadership in aviation, and damage the international market for U.S. satellite technology.

“FAA cannot conclude that operations using just the lower portion of the spectrum are compatible with civil aircraft receivers without definition of LightSquared’s end-state deployment and further study," the FAA said. “Proposed LightSquared deployment (both upper and lower channels by 2014) would result in an estimated aviation community cost impact of at least $72 billion and delay NextGen implementation by approximately 10 years.
[snip]
The Department of Transportation (DOT) statement recaps the highlights of the FAA report, and then outlines effects in rail, maritime, and road transport, concluding with a section on the NDGPS.

Railroads would face increased costs of up to $25 billion over 20 years to re-equip were GPS degraded or unavailable, and would lose productivity gains (“most of which accrue to society at large) of up to $29 billion.

“The dollar value on potential contributory ship groundings, collisions, and allusion could run into tens of billions of dollars in hull, cargo, and oil pollution costs, not to mention injuries and loss of life as well as economic losses to ports and corporations negatively impacted by a related incident. Any interference or degradation of the GPS signal through LightSquared utilization of interfering frequency bands is unacceptable due to potential safety, environmental, and economic consequences. Likewise, the retrofit of GPS marine equipment with filters or other fixes is not practical from a deployment of an economic perspective.

LightSquared will prevent the successful operation of vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure safety applications, “eliminate[ing] . . . the opportunity to reduces crashes, injuries, and fatalities.” Further, “significant transportation benefits such as decreased travel times, fuel savings, and corresponding environmental benefits . . . would most likely be lost.”

The Nationwide Differential GPS (NDGPS) would be unable to operate if LightSquared operations were allowed to proceed as planned. NDGPS supplies a growing public and private-sector reliance for transportation, agricultural, environmental, natural resource management, surveying, weather forecasting, and other applications.

[Old Lurker]

And court costs, don't forget. You really have to send a clear message afterall.

[centralcal]

Oh, I think this is hysterically funny (from Mediabistro):

Current TV has made yet another addition to the network’s primetime lineup, announcing today that former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm will host a 9 p.m.ET/PT program called “The War Room” beginning in January 2012.

Granholm, who is a frequent contributor to NBC’s “Meet the Press,” said in a statement her show will be a “nightly show for political junkies like me,” adding: “Democrats will love it. The far right will hate it. Those in the middle will appreciate it. I can’t wait to get started.”

Olbermann, Cenk whateverhislastnameis, and now Granholm. Where are those people she lists who will love it, hate it, or appreciate it? The have practically NO viewers! Just like Air America had NO listeners. Funny, funny, funny.

[matt]

In 1945, the casualty estimates for an invasion of the Japanese mainland were for over 1,000,000 Allied dead and between 3,000,000 - 7,000,000 Japanese dead, including men, women, and children.

Okinawa and Saipan were indicative of the Japanese reaction, with many thousands of suicide attacks and then simple suicides by civilians.

An invasion would have created a charnel house.For this man to dare apologize for what was deemed at the time an absolute necessity of war is indicative of his lack of historical understanding, his lack of statesmanship, his lack of political sense, and his lack of morality.

The second bomb was dropped only because the Japanese still would not surrender even when faced with conventional destruction never before visited upon a people and the regime would still not surrender after the first bomb killed 100,000 people.

Total war is a horrible thing. Ask the Chinese. The Japanese Empire was an abomination under the militarists. They started the war. Millions died in the Asian campaigns. Millions more would have died in an invasion.

That Barack Hussein Obama would dare to apologize for this is an act so craven and supine that it is incontrovertible evidence he should be impeached. He has now shown his true colors for all to see.What a despicable human being.

[Captain Hate]

The 2013 Camaro ZL1 convertible will be powered by a 580 horsepower 6.2-liter V8 engine

Have our Government Motors overlords decreed that we'll no longer use cubic inches in measuring engine size?

[PD]

"War Room"? Sounds pretty violent.

[Clarice]

Iran's broke. Will we accept payment in rugs?

[Captain Hate]

matt 2012

[Janet]

Just a bit on the Sandy Berger timeline from an old post -

The timeline of the story always interested me.
The crime - Sept/Oct 2003
The MFM reports - July 2004
"National Archives officials almost immediately suspected that Berger had removed materials after his Oct. 2, 2003, visit. They called Bruce R. Lindsey, a former White House lawyer and Clinton's liaison to the archives to complain."

It was like a JournoList agreement to keep quiet until the penalty & cover story were worked out.

[harrjf]

henry,

I'm thinking of going to Madison's Farmers Market the next few weekends and getting people to sign Walker recall petitions. Sure its early and sure they would be invalid. Could be kinda fun. Like when Tom Green asked people to sign a petition to end "Women's Suffrage". Only the dopes sign.

[bgates]

I think Issa has all the info he needs and this is just a set up.

Sure. Holder will end up sharing a cell with George Galloway, after what's-his-name who lost to Al Franken locks him up.

[Dave (in MA)]

Take your pick:

• Cain, Perry or Romney would all beat Obama or
• Obama would beat Perry by 14.