Rick Perry may not be up to all this debatin' and articulatin':
A spokesman for Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, whose candidacy has faltered after several poor debate appearances, said on Wednesday that he might not participate in some of the coming face-offs.
“We will look at each debate individually and then make a decision,” Mark Miner, the spokesman, told The Times’s Richard A. Oppel Jr.
I think if he skips the debates he may as well skip the rest of the nominating process, and that's not just me:
It’s not clear whether Mr. Perry could skip the debates without a steep political cost. By refusing to appear on a national stage now — after being criticized for his previous performances — he might open himself to charges that he is afraid to debate.
However...
When running for governor last year, Mr. Perry managed to avoid debating his Democratic rival, Bill White, by linking his participation to the issue of Mr. White’s release of financial disclosure information. Mr. Perry refused to debate until Mr. White, the former mayor of Houston, released more information. Mr. White accused Mr. Perry of being afraid to debate.
I think an incumbent who is known to the voters is in a much better spot to work that ploy than one of many contenders for the Republican throne.
Kins come thru also. 7-4
Posted by: Gmax | October 27, 2011 at 10:56 PM
Even the pitcher scores. Dandy Don is singing another chorus of The Party's Over in the great diamond in the sky.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet | October 27, 2011 at 10:57 PM
Cards look like Zero to me, out of bullets...
Posted by: Gmax | October 27, 2011 at 10:58 PM
Btw AB, i'm assuming those endosements were 4 years ago, before the effects of Romneycare were felt. I liked Romney as Governor.
Posted by: Jane | October 27, 2011 at 11:00 PM
Go NAVY!!!!
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Marines in Afghanistan told not to spit towards Mecca.
How about shooting any murderous psychopathic asshole Muslims coming at them from the direction of Mecca? Is that still allowed?
Posted by: bgates | October 27, 2011 at 11:04 PM
The Navy was magnificent today at the keel laying for the USS Milwaukee. I got a good look at the USS Fort Worth (undergoing sea trials), and met the commanders of the Gold and Blue crews. Excellent after party as well. Only the baseball sucks tonight.
Posted by: henry | October 27, 2011 at 11:07 PM
I do believe St Louis just gave up.
Seems to me their last 3 batters just want it all to be over.
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:09 PM
Daddy, I agree, Since I am in Green Bay at the moment, I am glad it's football season.
Posted by: henry | October 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Born on a mountain top in Tennessee . . .
But, I ask TK, was he natural born?
Posted by: MarkO | October 27, 2011 at 04:47 PM
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You had me in stitches, MarkO, when I realized how that would apply to Obama:
If he's the messiah, he wasn't natural born. Can't have it both ways, Dems.
Posted by: BR | October 27, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Lookie here!
My favorite, an impending land grab.
Tibet disappeared this way too.
G'night all.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | October 27, 2011 at 11:16 PM
Btw AB, i'm assuming those endosements were 4 years ago, before the effects of Romneycare were felt.
Correct, Jane. And of course few of us here understand what it's like to live under Romneycare, as you of course do. Maybe I'm being more sympathetic to Romney than he merits, because I saw what our recent governor, Linda Lingle, had to live with as a Republican gov in a deep blue state, where the entire legislature and both newspapers were solidly against her. She governed as a RINO in most ways too, but had little choice about that; she got beaten down on everything else. I've assumed it was much the same for Romney.
Wish I liked watching professional sports. I can tell I'm missing lots of fun. Can I have a beer anyway?
Posted by: (Another) Barbara | October 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM
Reminder...
Posted by: hit and run | October 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Craig wasn't robbed.
Posted by: hit and run | October 27, 2011 at 11:20 PM
Henry,
Craig really surprised me with that Homer. The others seem to just be swinging without any discipline or any heart.
Glad you're a Green Bay fan. You've got a great Football Season ahead of you.
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:20 PM
Wish I liked watching professional sports. I can tell I'm missing lots of fun. Can I have a beer anyway?
Yes!
I can't seem to get to the game for more than 30 seconds at a time, between a birthday party, homework, nice environmental guy knocking at the door asking for money, and JOM.
I can't believe those photos of the dinner winners with Barry. Who was the genius who didn't allow them to drink a glass of wine (or whatever else they wanted) BEFORE the Prez sat down with them? It's just painful to look at those empty glasses. At minimum the servers should have had open bottles in hand (a good red and a good white) as they sat down.
I'm not an accomplished hostess but some things are imperative.
Posted by: Porchlight | October 27, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Daddy, to be honest I declared football season in August to avoid local Brewers gloating. I grew up a Cowboys fan -- until Jerry Jones stepped in. The Packers run a nice operation and the fans are loyal even when they suck. The Pack pulled me in like the Borg. : )
Posted by: henry | October 27, 2011 at 11:26 PM
I'm just glad that baseball will be over before November. I don't know how cold it is there but we'll probably get frost here in NE Ohio tonight.
God the Rangers are playing sloppy ball.
Posted by: Captain Hate | October 27, 2011 at 11:27 PM
In downtown L.A. to do some research, I passed the media camp parked outside the Dr. Murray trial and the trashers' tent encrapment nearby. The city was otherwise beautiful. Most of the people on the street (and in the bus I was on) were dressed better than Pres. Bugsy in the Arlington restaurant, one that appears to have less charm than a Sizzler.
Posted by: Frau Überraschung | October 27, 2011 at 11:27 PM
You guys really want to know how bad the Anti-Oil Lobby has crippled our Industry up here?
Well if this don't tell you how bad it's gotten then I give up.
Alaska's strippers heading south, to North Dakota
"strip dancers can make "ten times as much dancing in the oil boomtown of Williston, North Dakota" than they can in Alaska.
Gad:(
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:33 PM
daddy, that's awful. Will the girls hold it against Obama?
Posted by: Frau Überraschung | October 27, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Henry,
So you're a FairWeather Dallas CowBoys Fan? Don't worry.
I'll keep it under my hat so Sue and Hit and Porch etc don't find out:)
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:36 PM
But more bloody, Obama's legacy:
Arizona Gunrunner Impact Team (GRIT)
May 1, 2010 - August 6, 2010
For full, bloody impact, see full-page photograph here.
From article by Sharyl Attkisson at CBSnews.com, 9/30/11:
"ATF Fast and Furious: Who at the White House knew?
Among the documents produced: an email in which ATF's Newell sent the White House's O'Reilly an "arrow chart reflecting the ultimate destination of firearms we intercepted and/or where the guns ended up." The chart shows arrows leading from Arizona to destinations all over Mexico.
In response, O'Reilly wrote on Sept. 3, 2010 "The arrow chart is really interesting - and - no surprise - implies at least that different (Drug Trafficking Organizations) in Mexico have very different and geographically distinct networks in the US for acquiring guns. Did last year's TX effort develop a similar graphic?"
A lawyer for the White House wrote Congressional investigators: "none of the communications between ATF and the White House revealed the investigative law enforcement tactics at issue in your inquiry, let alone any decision to allow guns to 'walk.'"
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That chart and that denial side by side is just mind blowing. It simply does not compute. The very fact of the chart's existence shows it could have been stopped since it was a US govt. operation!
Posted by: BR | October 27, 2011 at 11:36 PM
Another Barbara - I think Linda Lingle did quite a bit for your state -- especially considering the odds against her.
And I am really, really rooting for her in the Senate race. (If she were to win, and I think she has a good shot, that, by itself would just about guarantee a Republican Senate.)
I've written two or three posts about her over the years, and should have written more.
Posted by: Jim Miller | October 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM
What are you talking about here?
Your response to Pagar's link on Romneycare "bankrupting" Massachusetts was:
You seem to be suggesting that Romney is off the hook because he left office and Democrats came along and botched up his program. I would say that putting an entitlement program in the hands of Democrats is like (take your pick):
1. Leaving an alcoholic with a well-stocked bar.
2. Giving a loaded gun to a psychopath.
You get the idea. The results are pretty predictable.
Posted by: jimmyk | October 27, 2011 at 11:39 PM
Coming up: Feliz v (Obama-loving)Pujols
This won't end quietly.
Posted by: hit and run | October 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM
nice environmental guy knocking at the door asking for money,
I love when they come by. I like being nice...offering them water & a bathroom break if they need it...& then saying I am DONE with the environmental stuff. The organizations just want money & to micromanage our lives.
The Packers run a nice operation and the fans are loyal even when they suck.
Those are the best teams. I admire them even if they aren't my team.
Posted by: Janet | October 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Daddy, the Cowbays aren't the same after Staubach anyway.
Posted by: henry | October 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Frau,
It's tuff I tell ya', freakin' tuff.
Tiffany, Ginger, Krystal, and especially Miss Sparkle in her mukluk's with that Bald Eagle Feather act:( Gone. All gone (sob).
And here I thought last year was the winter of my discontent:)
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Pujols wasn't completely quiet.
Posted by: hit and run | October 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM
I like telling the environmental guys that I don't share their religious views. (I'm a little nicer to the environmental gals.)
That happens to be true, which makes it even better.
Posted by: Jim Miller | October 27, 2011 at 11:46 PM
Just joking Henry,
Besides pulling for UNC Basketball I'm pretty well a useless sports fan orphan. At least up here, being inundated by Seattle sports, I've avoided becoming a SeaHawk's Fan (but that's not hard at all.)
Wow. Still a breath of life in St Louis.
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:47 PM
Photo post on Japan - six months since earthquake.
Posted by: Janet | October 27, 2011 at 11:47 PM
How the heck do you not swing with 2 on and 1 out in the 9th Inning of Game 6?
Freese. A good guy to be at the plate. Good kid.
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:51 PM
Yike.
Posted by: hit and run | October 27, 2011 at 11:53 PM
Yippee!!!!
Sorry Sue. I want it to go to Game 7 tomorrow!!!!!
Yay David Freese. Great job young man. Just showed us all what you're made of. Wow!
Posted by: daddy | October 27, 2011 at 11:54 PM
I guess I put Danderoo in a bad position. Xtra innings. Or as the late Skip Carey would say, free baseball.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet | October 27, 2011 at 11:56 PM
Janet, why do those photos make me think of New Orleans? I guess the Japanese government does more than ours does. /s
Posted by: Frau Überraschung | October 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM
You seem to be suggesting that Romney is off the hook
I wasn't "suggesting" anything. Didn't even use a declarative sentence.
As I recall, it was one of JOM's MA residents who first implied that this program had been d*cked around with in the last few years. Or perhaps, I'm just a dumb rube who bought into the "ruse."
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM
Josh wasn't robbed.
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:00 AM
Kind of brings back nightmares from 25 years ago.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 28, 2011 at 12:01 AM
Josh Hamilton makes up for Nelson Cruz' poor fielding
Posted by: peter | October 28, 2011 at 12:02 AM
Man. No quit in Texas at all.
You guy's sure Rick Perry's from down there?
Posted by: daddy | October 28, 2011 at 12:02 AM
AB,
He was a squish even then. Once he got into office he just faded away. The best we could do, I'm sure, but I don't recall him getting beaten down. He was pretty complicit.
I think he is smart, talented, and ethical. But he screwed us big time.
Posted by: Jane | October 28, 2011 at 12:03 AM
Janet,
Your photo-link looks excellent. No quit in the Japanese either from my observations.
BTW, as a Kingsville gal are you a Ranger fan?
Posted by: daddy | October 28, 2011 at 12:05 AM
Sara:
I wasn't "suggesting" anything. Didn't even use a declarative sentence.
Suggesting usually takes the form of not using a declarative sentence.
The Cooper Question Mark™ may have been the apex of the genre.
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:09 AM
There's no quit in these guys from the AAAA league, either.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 28, 2011 at 12:11 AM
Jane,
Hope your feet are nice and toasty and you're watching this last half inning. Great job today, tho' I've only read bits and pieces of your adventures on the thread.
Yesterday coming home saw a big Bull Moose in the road crossing and he had a big yellow power cord trailing behind him. Beautiful huge critter. I parked in the road on the chord hoping it would get yanked off his antlers, but instead he stopped and stared back angry at me . I went out to see if I could grab it and pull it off from afar( It was trailing about 20 feet behind him), but I saw it was tightly wrapped into his antlers so I got back in the SUV, headed home and called the Game Warden guys.
Thats what happened yesterday.
Yay St Louis. Keep fighting. Looks like they've recovered their heart.
Great Ball Game these last few innings.
Posted by: daddy | October 28, 2011 at 12:12 AM
These relief pitchers have all turned into Jose Mesa.
Posted by: Captain Hate | October 28, 2011 at 12:12 AM
It would only be fitting for a Feldman end this series!
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Yeah Frau, I kept thinking of Ground Zero. :(
BTW, as a Kingsville gal are you a Ranger fan?
I don't keep up with baseball that much but I tend to go for any of the Texas teams (except the Mavericks). I still answer that I'm from Texas even though I've lived in Virginia for 20 years now.
Posted by: Janet | October 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM
Daddy - close your garage!
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:17 AM
There's no quit in these guys from the AAAA league, either.
funny!
Posted by: peter | October 28, 2011 at 12:17 AM
New Hampshire may legalize civil unions for all — including siblings
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 28, 2011 at 12:18 AM
lANCE bERKMAN FROM THE 2010 nEW yORK yANKEES AT BAT
Posted by: peter | October 28, 2011 at 12:21 AM
Don't say "one strike away"!!!
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 28, 2011 at 12:23 AM
hey, Cards fans, thank fat Elvis
Posted by: peter | October 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Janet you can cheer for the Rangers and not be a bandwagon fan because they used to be the Washington Senators.
Posted by: Captain Hate | October 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Broadcasters jinx.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM
What a game.
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:24 AM
"New Hampshire may legalize civil unions for all — including siblings"
That's trite. Why not go cutting edge whole hog and allow marriage between the split personalities in schizophrenics? Man, these Politicians...always only thinking inside the box.
Where the heck is Sue?
Posted by: daddy | October 28, 2011 at 12:25 AM
I'll give the broadcasters a break. They said . . . Hamilton hasn't homered in 2million at bats right before he jacked his two run shot.
Would LaRussa consider going to Carpenter at all in this game?
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:26 AM
Where the heck is Sue?
Looking for an oxygen tank?
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 28, 2011 at 12:27 AM
Capt H, this game may last into November.
Posted by: henry | October 28, 2011 at 12:27 AM
they used to be the Washington Senators.
Our house was owned by a Senator's player - Grunting Jim Shaw.
We bought it from the Shaw family.
Posted by: Janet | October 28, 2011 at 12:29 AM
I can't believe I'm watching Jake Westbrook pitch in the World Series.
Posted by: Captain Hate | October 28, 2011 at 12:29 AM
If the Cards win tonight, I would say they are favored large to win game 7.
Posted by: peter | October 28, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Btw Cruz should've caught that ball in right field in the 9th. For as clutch as he's been with the bat in all the post season, that was a horrible defensive play on his part.
Posted by: Captain Hate | October 28, 2011 at 12:32 AM
agree, captain. he wasn't even close to it -- afraid of the wall. and the outfield was playing too deep in the tenth when fat elvis was up. (fat elvis is what Yankee fans called Lance Berkman when he was a pinstriper)
Posted by: peter | October 28, 2011 at 12:38 AM
Freese. Hero.
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Look Who Cited To Justia For Supreme Court Holding.
TK: This sounds like you wrote it.
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 28, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Freese! On to game 7!
Posted by: henry | October 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM
Holy Carp. If St Louis wins this WS, this game will go down in history as one of the best -- or at least one of the most entertaining.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet | October 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM
I put the Rangers' chances tomorrow at about the same as the Red Sox' chances after the Buckner game.
Doom.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 28, 2011 at 12:42 AM
David Freese!
Home town kid makes wonderful---Cinderella story!
It's that goofy scene of Bill Murray playing golf in CaddyShack with the Dalai Lama come to life:)
Albert who?
Posted by: daddy | October 28, 2011 at 12:42 AM
Freese wasn't robbed.
Posted by: hit and run | October 28, 2011 at 12:43 AM
Never say "one strike away" in a WS game six.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 28, 2011 at 12:43 AM
I guess they're not laughing at Freese any more.
Posted by: jimmyk | October 28, 2011 at 12:48 AM
DoT, please read Sara's link. Jane, ten words will be tough.
"holy shit" is all I have right now.
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 12:50 AM
That was a ballgame.
Posted by: Pofarmer | October 28, 2011 at 12:55 AM
Great link Sara. Here is more on President 404's sketchy life too....we used to be poor.
"Obama said that when they got married, he and Michele had a combined $120,000 in student loan debt and monthly payments on the debt were more than their mortgage."
Posted by: Janet | October 28, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Just watched the BaseBall Tonight replay of the highlights which took about 5 minutes, and got all exhausted all over again.
Wonderful ballgame.
Posted by: daddy | October 28, 2011 at 01:09 AM
"DoT, please read Sara's link."
The link tells me nothing about the law. The law as it has been declared has been declared permanently and immutably in the places where those who want to discuss it resort for authority.
I can't help those who go elsewhere for threir sources. And no amount of perfidy, fraud or technical error in those unofficial sources can change the actual law, which remains as I have described it.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 28, 2011 at 01:19 AM
Will you check your fancy pants resources to see if Justia commited a crime?
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 01:34 AM
Let me try again, TK:
1. Do you believe that the judicial branch will prohibit the American electorate from voting for a candidate for president on the basis of a disputed interpretation of a phrase in ancient, pre-constitutional English common law?
2. Do you believe that the chance of this occurring has been affected by whatever has taken place at something called justia.com?
A couple of simple yes or no answers should suffice.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 28, 2011 at 01:35 AM
TK: Isn't the question whether Justia was scrubbing its site? If it was growing and was considered as reliable as Lexus and Westlaw and attorneys were relying on it, I don't see why DOT keeps talking about a particular case and common law. Isn't the concern that Justia is "rigging" their system?
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 28, 2011 at 01:53 AM
I believe that somebody above my pay grade believes the judicial branch could wield such power.
When such certainty on your part equally exists throughout all persons who use the same sources as you, why did McCain receive the Dog and Pony show in the Senate?
The top tier in our American government had to of known the Judiciary would not be concerned about “a disputed interpretation of a phrase in ancient, pre-constitutional English common law.”
Since you believe Justia is a cracker jack prize, and refuse to appreciate the significance of the website (it is linked directly from the uscourts.gov sites), I will not entertain your second question.
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 01:54 AM
"Will you check your fancy pants resources to see if Justia commited a crime?"
I'll leave that to you: I have never heard my resources referred to as "fancy pants"; they are as available to you as they are to me. I don't have a great deal of interest in the question, because I don't think that anything they might have done would have caused a reasonable person to rely on their errors.
Probably the poor sap Donofrio feels embarrassed by what has happened to him, but he is quite a bit too dumb to know that none of his zany claims about this Justia outfit would help him any way even if all were proven true.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 28, 2011 at 01:56 AM
Yes Sara, that is the core issue. Justia was altering SCOTUS case files. The question is, why?
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 01:56 AM
Stupid old Donofrio is concerned about the law being defiled. You are not.
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 02:01 AM
Another Barbara - I think Linda Lingle did quite a bit for your state -- especially considering the odds against her
I agree, Jim, and I'd be interested in learning some time about your interest in Linda Lingle and the reasons you admire her. Your posts about that may have been prior to my becoming a regular reader on JOM.
Mainly, she did what she could to hold back some of the legislative tide that always threatens to engulf us in Hawaii. On the other hand, she supported some really bad stuff like the Akaka Bill, perhaps to gain and hold office. In my opinion the effects of the Akaka Bill would have as damaging an impact on Hawaii residents -- including native Hawaiians, IMO -- as Romneycare has had in MA, according to Jane. More, probably.
That said, I strongly support her in her run for the U.S. Senate. She may turn out to be more like the Maine girls than we like, but would nonetheless have an R after her name. That's about all we can hope for from Hawaii.
Posted by: (Another) Barbara | October 28, 2011 at 02:03 AM
TK: I have a hard time thinking any lawyer knows enough about computers to even know how to coverup something. I have never seen an educated group of people more computer illiterate than attorneys. OTOH, if they are being told that a database is reliable and the information from that database is accepted by the courts, then they damn sure have a responsibility to get it right and if they don't and a case is put in jeopardy as a result, they should be liable and perhaps the actual guilty parties need to go to jail.
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 28, 2011 at 02:03 AM
TK, in case you didn't see mine in the previous very long thread:
Justia company profile. LUN. (Oh, good, it's still there. They haven't blocked their own profile yet :)
Approximately 51-200 employees. As of now, I don't think they're claiming to have been hacked. Therefore, someone within did it. Or gave access willingly.
The tampering with court documents appear over some months in 2008 according to the Waybackmachine screen shots. Waybackmachine takes screen shots at different times of different pages. But the tampering could all have been done in one afternoon in or before April 2008.
TK, can you tell from the alterations, what specifically is so dangerous to Obama in Minor v. Happersett? Is it both parents having to be US citizens?
Posted by: BR | October 28, 2011 at 02:07 AM
And then another thing, TK, you're probably familiar with the 4/3/09 CRS Memo, given to all Members of Congress on how to answer their constituents about Obama's eligibility. LUN. The doc format can't be searched, so I just did a quick visual check. Does it mention Minor?
Posted by: BR | October 28, 2011 at 02:13 AM
In the link that you provided, that DoT could have not possibly read, multiple sources talk about the influence Justia had in the legal community. The founder of Justia even touted that lawyers used his site more than non lawyers.
BTW Tim Stanley created "Findlaw" before he created Justia. As I understand it, only blind and stupid lepers ever used Findlaw.
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 02:16 AM
Drop dot and full charge ahead, it's truly going viral, so much to read on it. Obama was the crime and Justia was the coverup.
Posted by: BR | October 28, 2011 at 02:22 AM
Shall I wait up for you, TK :) Are you busy checking the CRS?
Posted by: BR | October 28, 2011 at 02:34 AM
Oh, btw, Jane - your "Can't spell election fraud without ACLU" is great. Also works with "ACORN."
Posted by: BR | October 28, 2011 at 02:39 AM
Wake up, TK, I want to play, TK :)
Posted by: BR | October 28, 2011 at 02:42 AM
The CRS Memo that I know of does not mention Minor. Leo, the stupid, is working on a report on that memo. It is mentioned in Sara's link.
Obama has had a diversion machine set up from the beginning. The topic always starts from the left. Hilary started it. Phil Berg, a Democrat continued it. The born in Kenya narrative was inescapable. Then McCain wins the repuke primary and some pissed off left wing bloggers decide to dish out payback for all the birther crap. They were too dumb to know their own side started it.
At this point some well known liberal law professor, defending McCain, writes about the know history of natural born is the child of citizen parents (plural). This gets published in a law review. Oh shit! Obama did not have citizen parents (plural)
Now Bloggers on both sides of the McCain argument are looking to prove or disprove McCain’s eligibility. As it escalates, it must have been realized that Minor, by the most minimum standard (provided by DoT), would have cast "doubts" on Obama's eligibility. The 25 cases that cite Minor's holding on citizenship would have only made things worse.
We now find out these cases went missing at the Internets #1 legal reference for bloggers. Justia was always a first hit when using Google. People who had access to the bonafide a numero uno sites refused to accept the idea that a definition quite possibly existed for "natural born". So they went about their way accusing anyone who wanted to know about "natural born" as being birthers. Hugh Hewitt, Hannity, Levin, Orieley, Medved and so on.
Now comes the Dog and Pony show of SR511. Cosponsored by Clinton, Obama, and sourced to Obama's con law professor L. Tribe for legal analysis. Some how the top legal mind did not mention Minor and the 25 cases that cited Minor. If he did mention Minor it would have then placed the "doubts", at a minimum, on Obama.
Then comes poor dumb ol' Donofrio, and he screws the whole thing up. He asked for the verification that the Sec of State in New Jersey had checked the eligibility of the candidates running for president. New Jersey was so bold to have a Nicaraguan citizen on their ballot, in addition to McCain and Obama. By New Jersey statute a citizen could go to court and force the Sec of State to verify eligibility. He took them to court and the court not being privy to DoT's and the rest of the legal worlds knowledge of eligibility, got suckered in by the "will of the people. At this point Donofrio was juggled through the system.
As it turns out Minor would have raised a great many doubts for Obama. With 25 citations, legal eagles would have had their hands full when the "show me your authority" technique was successfully rebuked.
Oh, The professor that wrote the law review article on McCain’s eligibility rewrote it to now say citizen parent instead of citizen parents. He could not modify the law review publication, so he changed in on his site and passes it off as the article in the review. He must use some real good sources to be confident enough to pull that kind of a stunt.
Good night.
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 28, 2011 at 02:53 AM