What If Davey Crockett Skipped The Alamo?

Rick Perry may not be up to all this debatin' and articulatin':

A spokesman for Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, whose candidacy has faltered after several poor debate appearances, said on Wednesday that he might not participate in some of the coming face-offs.

“We will look at each debate individually and then make a decision,” Mark Miner, the spokesman, told The Times’s Richard A. Oppel Jr.

I think if he skips the debates he may as well skip the rest of the nominating process, and that's not just me:

It’s not clear whether Mr. Perry could skip the debates without a steep political cost. By refusing to appear on a national stage now — after being criticized for his previous performances — he might open himself to charges that he is afraid to debate.

However...

When running for governor last year, Mr. Perry managed to avoid debating his Democratic rival, Bill White, by linking his participation to the issue of Mr. White’s release of financial disclosure information. Mr. Perry refused to debate until Mr. White, the former mayor of Houston, released more information. Mr. White accused Mr. Perry of being afraid to debate.

I think an incumbent who is known to the voters is in a much better spot to work that ploy than one of many contenders for the Republican throne.

Comments

[hit and run]

When I was unemployed,mrs hit and run and I would have "dates" to WalMart at 8 in the morning -- right after we took the kids to school. Instead of heading in to town the 10 miles to get to the nearest WalMart,we'd drive the 20 miles in the opposite direction to go to the small town Super WalMart.

Almost no one there. We never did go back to the homewares aisle and make out . . . but we could have.

[henry]

Sara, correct. Freese went to Lafayette High, just west of my high school.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

BF: Excuse me, but the dems had both Houses and the Presidency and couldn't even put together a budget, for how long?

[pagar]

Rocco, I believe your 05:54PM and Sara's last post was covered by my reply at 04:18PM.
Romneycare is not going to be an asset to Romney no matter how it is spun.
The Link at 07:20PM about Herman Cain is an
excellent example. The leftists are going to say anything they want and no one is going to challenge them.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Sara-

There was a CME on the 24th. No way this isn't related.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Mel: Wow, thanks for that link. That is really interesting.

[narciso]

Ok, I give up, what does a coronal mass ejection have to do with earthquakes, which happen deep underground.

[Benjamin Franklin]

On Friday the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America called for a "full and complete investigation" into the circumstances surrounding the incident.

"The injury of any veteran is a serious concern to the broader veterans community -- especially when it happens on American soil," the group said in a statement on its website.

"Scott Olsen and his family are in our thoughts and prayers, and we hope for his speedy recovery."

Narc;

You scratch shallow (suprise !!!) when ;you dig deep.

He has the right to say he hates the Marine Corp. He's been there.
Have you?

From your anti-semite-critquer.....(I don't know this is Scott, but I'm giving these lovers of truth some leeway.

"UPDATE: Our liberal hero is the total package. He also hates Jews.
Here is a post he put up on the far left Truthdig website.

He calls Jews 'Hebrews'. What a HATER !!!

Get a new rant, phony Castro Warrior.

[Captain Hate]

Somebody @ AoS suggested that Zuccotti Park be changed to Zeituni Park.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Romneycare is not going to be an asset to Romney no matter how it is spun.

You don't think that those poll numbers (my 5:24) on the law in MA won't be pushed big time by the Romney campaign, if he gets the nomination?

If the majority of citizens of MA like the program, then why should you or I complain, if we don't live there? Like Romney stresses, healthcare is a state issue and the federal government should stay out.

[RichatUF]

When are we going to get a new thread?

[Benjamin Franklin]

48 HOURS LATER: People in the United States are still talking about the spooky red auroras ignited by a CME on Oct. 24th; Northern Lights were sighted as far south as Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas and Alabama. 48 hours later, the show was over in the USA, but not in Scandinaviia where residual auroras continued to flicker around the Arctic Circle. Norwegian photographer Ole C. Salomonsen took this picture on Oct. 26th:

spaceweather.com

Narc;

Get some cross-ventilation in your library.

Electro-Magnetic Pulse.

Faraday cages.

Or not..............

[Captain Hate]

Well done Maguire; you police this place as effectively as Bloomberg does Zuccotti Park

[narciso]

Forgive me, for being skeptical, in light of the previous examples;

A former member, proven military imposter Jesse MacBeth, who was later punished under the Stolen Valor Act, was briefly part of the group before it was discovered he had fabricated his military past. IVAW promptly expelled him and instituted a verification policy. However, in 2009, it was determined that another member by the name Rick Duncan had lied about being in the military.[3][4] In 2009 a then time member Kristofer Goldsmith exposed James Morriss as another fake Veteran.[5] James had claimed to be a member of the 101st with a deployment to Afghanistan. In a video he is heard saying that his was ordered by his Commanding Officer to shoot an unarmed child.[6]

[Ignatz]

--BF: Excuse me, but the dems had both Houses and the Presidency and couldn't even put together a budget, for how long?--

That simple sentence demonstrates Sara is about three times smarter than the supposedly formidably brilliant J. Bradford DeLong.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Sorry, fake or real, when you start a website called, "I Hate the Marine Corps.com," I think you forfeit the right to have your band of brothers protect you. But that's just me.

Now as a member of the human race, I hope he recovers fully and his family still loves him.

[Benjamin Franklin]

"That simple sentence demonstrates Sara is about three times smarter than the supposedly formidably brilliant J. Bradford DeLong."

Which makes you.....amoebic?

[henry]

Craig! 3-2!

[Benjamin Franklin]

" I think you forfeit the right to have your band of brothers protect you."

It's the Bureaucracy, not the individual Marines, Sara. Marines understand the distinction....

[pagar]

If the program bankrupts the state than it is not a winner in my opinion.

"Commonwealth Connector, the independent state agency established to help residents find the health insurance, has “totally failed,” to create competition and connect people with affordable insurance, Cahill said, pointing out that 68 percent of the residents it serves receive subsidized care.

“We haven’t done anything about driving down costs,” Cahill said. “We haven’t helped small business. We haven’t changed the way we pay for health care and the way we deliver it.”
SEE LUN

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=13617

"Can Mitt Romney Escape His Romneycare Albatross?

[hit and run]

Marines understand the distinction....

Bullschmidt.

[MayBee]

Here's what Romney takes away from Obama:

Many Democrats say Obamacare may not be perfect, but if the GOP had wanted to do something about it, they would have done something between 1993 and ObamaCare.

Romney did something.

[Benjamin Franklin]

I've had Schmidt's Beer and I concur.

[JM Hanes]

Thomas Collins:

"I am going to give your response more thought to figure out whether our different perspectives may reflect issues of definition or whether we have a fundamentally different view of the Founding."

I'd be very interested in how you see that. I think you were actually using "esoteric" in a much more technical sense than I proceeded to do. Colonials as a whole were certainly better versed in abstract philosophy than the general public today (and more knowledgeable with regard to founding issues, as someone's recent comment on the sales of Thomas Paine's work suggests). I see the problems the Founders addressed in devising a constitutional government, however, as concrete, and the document they produced, ironically, fitted out to be considerably more "self-evident" than our putative natural rights, and independent of the evanescent thinking behind it.

I can't remember if I've recommended it before, but if you haven't read it already, you might really enjoy American Scripture: Making the Declaration of Independence. I was very interested to discover how little significance the Founders actually attached to the Declaration, ex post facto. It essentially did little but gather dust, till Lincoln hauled it out to justify emancipation (the assumption of absolute moral authority has a long history!).

I look forward to continuing the conversation at your leisure. In the mean time, I'm planning to indulge in some pursuit of trivial happiness for a bit, as my brain has started begging for a little R&R.

[narciso]

Well maybe Mayor Quan, Captain, now Bloomberg did suggest the venue, so much so that even SNL sought to satirize him, with perfect lack of selfawareness, he volunteers to play himself.

[Benjamin Franklin]

I prefer Genesee...by more than a hop.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Electro-Magnetic Pulse

I don't know sh!t from shinola about this stuff, but I still find it all fascinating. So, what is going to happen to us when the poles shift? What plans are in the vault to deal with this event?

[Benjamin Franklin]

Do you get CME's now?

[DebinNC]

Speaking of date stories, Here's a lovely one.

[hit and run]

Your statement was made to suggest all Marines held the position you were making.

Not true,and you know it.

I'll grant you sloppiness on that statement rather than lying pusillanimity.

But that's because I'm that generous.

Are there some Marines who hold that view? Undoubtedly.

And some Marines think we never landed on the moon.

[Benjamin Franklin]

'Your statement was made to suggest all Marines held the position you were making.'

Horseshit.

Everyone infers based upon their mindset. Why should you be different?

"It's the Bureaucracy, not the individual Marines, Sara. Marines understand the distinction...."

Are you a Marine, Hit? I'm sure there are Marines who would object to the prospect of a Marine saying he hates the Corps. But I think the vast majority of even that group would see the point when they look beyond the emotional surface. Can you do lthat?

[Jim Ryan]

Wouldn't that be funny if the republic went down the toilet because Obama won a second term as a result of Ron Paul running as an independent in the general election? Ha ha ha! Funny. Ha.

[Thomas Collins]

I haven't read that, JMH. Thanks for the recommendation. I hope whatever activity it is that you are currently using to further your pursuit of happiness, it involves something Mayor Bloomberg would frown at!

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Genesee?

I haven't heard of that since leaving Buffalo, NY in the late sixties. But then, I haven't been much of a beer drinker since then either, so what do I know?

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Didn't Ron Paul pledge publicly, not too long ago, that he has no intention to ever run as a 3rd party candidate. I can't remember if it was press conference or a TV interview.

[hit and run]

Marines would see IHatetheMarineCorps.com and their first thought would be . . . the bureaucracy sucks,yeah!

Heh.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

look beyond the emotional surface

Beyond what emotional surface? The fact that you think he might not like the bureaucracy, or that he got hurt?

I feel bad that he got hurt, but once a Marine, always a Marine, and like Fight Club, you don't say you hate the Corps if you are a Marine.

And they don't call it bureaucracy in the services, they call it chain of command.

[Benjamin Franklin]

heh

[Melinda Romanoff]

Sara-

That's what kim and I chat about every now and then.

[JM Hanes]

Space Weather, great site Melinda -- I'm fascinated by all that stuff (in Sara fashion!). too.

[MayBee]

Ben Franklin- are you a marine?

[MayBee]

Do people think he was targeted by the police because he was a Marine? Or are they more upset that he was hurt than they would have been had he not been a Marine?
Is there anybody who thinks his injury should not be investigated?

What is the concern here?

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

And never forget that the Master Chiefs and Master Sergeants rule the roosts.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Sara + JMH-

This new sunspot cycle, after two years of nothing, is stirring all sorts of new and interesting physics.

And is why we're getting cooling, as kim says.

Look up the weather history of 1913-14 for an example of the last cycle gap like this.

Keywords: White Hurricane of 1913, or Ernest Shackleton's early ice-in.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Sorry, for the gaps.

I'm back set up for burning discs. On now?

Dexter Gordon's The Other Side Of Round Midnight.

Too many stars to list.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

What is the concern here?

When the story first broke, MayBee, my first thought was what was a Marine doing at this protest? Then from there I went to furious that it was a Marine getting his head bashed. But now, whether the police story that he was hit by a protester's missile is true, or the protesters are right and it was a police missile of some kind, I still feel bad that anyone is so injured they have to have brain surgery. I just don't really care about him personally anymore. If he feels no loyalty, then he deserves none.

What is there to investigate? It won't make him better, the police aren't going to do any different when they are being pelted with rocks and bottles, and the protesters only want it if it gives them 15 more min. of fame.

If they want to spin their wheels and spend a bunch of money, by all means, they should investigate 'til the cows come home.

[DrJ]

And never forget that ... Master Sergeants rule the roosts.

My neighbor, the (former) Marine Master Sergeant, has made this very clear. :)

[Benjamin Franklin]

GAWD;

You can't deny CME's but you can roll science back a few decades by conflating Climate Change.

Climate change is not the immediate concern relative to CME's, but proceed with the anal-gazing.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Maybee: I'm not sure I've followed the bashing case closely enough, but I recall a couple of days ago a pleas for donations to help defray some of his medical costs. If he is active duty, what medical costs?

The Corps might want to boot his a$$ out for getting himself injured, especially at a protest event, but his butt is theirs and his health care is free.

But maybe he is no longer active duty.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Apparently, Mr. Olsen cannot speak, at present. As far as a left frontal lobe surgery, it would be directly involved. Short term memory function may be impaired, temporarily, as well. I have unfortunate experience with this. It's where they took out my father's glio.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Sara-

Delicate brain surgery was not something left to the VA, circa 1978. I would think that has changed.

Did anyone know they can make some cancerous tumors fluoresce now? This is sooo cool.

[MayBee]

Sara- he got an Administrative leave in 2010.

I'm all for an investigation because it's always good for the police to know if the methods they assume are safe are not. I have no idea what he was doing at the time he was hurt, or who hurt him.

Dispersing when the police say to is generally a good idea.

[hit and run]

Too bad Ranger pitchers can't throw strikes.

Yike.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Aaaah, is it almost time to turn out the lights and let the fat lady sing?

Doesn't look good for the Rangers. And what the heck is with these wild pitchers and why are they being left in to walk and walk.

[Captain Hate]

Rangers in serious meltdown mode

[hit and run]

Sara:
Aaaah, is it almost time to turn out the lights and let the fat lady sing?

You didn't watch last night's game?

The fat lady is out of commission tonight from all the warming up she did last night.

[Clarice]

Wouldn't it be nice if one of those CME's flashed down to earth and fried Al Gore's ass? Just saying/

[narciso]

At the very least, it would impair the main CPU,

[Benjamin Franklin]

For those who still have a sense of humor.

BTW; some define it as the ability to laugh at oneself.

http://austeritynut.com/

[Melinda Romanoff]

Oh, lookie.

The Democratic Presidential vote manufacturing system has been restarted.

Yes, it's both AP AND MFNBC. Go read. Canada's been declared the "open road".

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Administrative leave in 2010.

I think you mean "administrative discharge."

The Marine liaison wouldn't say why he was given an Administrative Discharge (anything from a medical condition to a punitive measure), but on his website, one of the keyword searches is "how to get out of the Marines early." Assume as you will.

[JM Hanes]

Yike. That makes me lol every time you use it, hit!

[Melinda Romanoff]

narciso-

The twist on the CME development is there must be some sort of transmission of gravitic proportions from the Sun directly to the active stress points of the tectonic plates.

After being told for decades they only exist in SF.

Nature fixes theories, faster than anything else. Go figure.

[MayBee]

Yes, you're right. Administrative discharge.

[narciso]

WAit, what will save us, from the feared 'Canadian menace,' that Napolitano was warning
against,

[MayBee]

Ha ha ha haaha, clarice.

[Benjamin Franklin]

Is it possible to reach the Right? It's an open question....

http://correntewire.com/

" had a conversation with a man at work today and mentioned, in passing, Occupy Wall Street. Despite many areas of agreement between the two of us, he launched into a tirade about ACORN and SEIU paying homeless people to protest. This man is a born again Christian and a devotee of right wing hate radio, but sometimes, he makes sense and since he is looking at hard times economically (he is a contractor for the company I work for, not an employee), I thought he might respond favorably to mention of Occupy Wall Street. Nope. Does anyone have any ideas of how to reach someone like this? Is there any somewhat-right website that has moments of sanity?"

[narciso]

Is there a way to measure this increased gravitational displacement, or is it just conjecture?

[Mel is Roamin' Off with the Electric Bus.]

Poles already shifted since our birth, some miles, or knots. Early switch of poles North to South and vice versa is not expected soon but somewhat unpredictable. Effect that event is also unknown, but probably not as bad as a Carrington Event, which would fry our grid. Last one was in 1859. They are unpredictable, but slightly forewarnable, connected with Coronal Mass Ejections, CMEs.

Clearly, the sun has some effect climatically beyond its Total Solar Insolation, or TSI, with varies only a half percent or so. Ultraviolet varies by around 20 % and if cosmic rays, solar or galactic, get involved with cloud formation there is a lot of potential for as yet unknown solar effects on climate.

This solar cycle is finally ramping up fitfully, but expected to be a weak one. The next one is unpredictable. Also, the sunspots are disappearing from the visible spectrum and suspicion is that their disappearance is somehow connected with cooling on earth, whether it is through rays, or gravity, or electrical effects, who knows, certainly not our poor ignorant species.
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[hit and run]

Heh. I got "Yike" from TM.

I do love the singular. Puts a certain ooomf on the moment.

[Benjamin Franklin]

Wouldn't it be nice if one of those CME's flashed down to earth and fried Al Gore's ass? Just saying/

Posted by: Clarice | October 28, 2011 at 10:05 PM

At the very least, it would impair the main CPU,

Posted by: narciso | October 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Identical Idiots, separated at birth

[Strum with the sun & let's have hot licks.]

Remember when Peter Bocking said that if Al Gore's hair caught on fire he could provide enough heat and light for a small English village?

Two year anniversaire.

I've thought about him and all he gave us, musically and intellectually.
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[Melinda Romanoff]

Last one.

The EU debt crisis has been fully averted because they've found new sources of unused cash!!!11!!

Um, sorry, it's new Accounting that solves it.

Sorry, sped read that too fast.

G'night all!

[Dave (in MA)]

Wouldn't it be nice if one of those CME's flashed down to earth and fried Al Gore's ass?

ManBearBacon.

[JM Hanes]

hit & run: I recognized the source :-)

[Melinda Romanoff]

What bus?

[If I have seen fur, it is because I stand on the shoulders of cats and dogs.]

Garvitic or electric, Melinda. I don't think anyone's got a handle on it but the tall blokes of this world are looking over the horizon.
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[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

I think someone said it is time for a humor break.

Well here is a good reason NOT to drink beer at a German beer fest.

[Captain Hate]

The Rangers only hope is to light up the Cards bullpen if they return to the dogshit status that they've maintained for the majority of the season

[Where have all the Chinese Ancestors gone? Long time going.]

Heh, ManBearBacon, the smell of burnt offering ascending to Heaven was a very early Chinese pictograph. Usually accompanied by the sign of spilt wine.
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[Melinda Romanoff]

Gotcha.

Me neither, but at the edge of the well, things can be unusual. Statistically, who can rule it out?

I feel like carp though, and I have to fade.

(This may be a double post.)

[Heard anymore about the earthquake IR and UV phenomena?]

Well, it's not the amazing, technicolor cosmic ray bus.
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[sbw]

EYE BLEACH!

[Pollywogs need luv, 2]

You've got to kiss a lot of frogs before you find your Spring.
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[JM Hanes]

Ben Franklin:

"I thought he might respond favorably to mention of Occupy Wall Street. Nope. Does anyone have any ideas of how to reach someone like this?"

A guy who assumes there's a logical sympathetic connection between a working contractor "looking at hard times economically" and the OWS rabble wonders why nothing seems to be getting through somebody else's noggin?

[JM Hanes]

"Usually accompanied by the sign of spilt wine."

What, no virgins? :-)

[Janet]

from Mel's 10:09 link.

"Critics said the tactic amounted to racial profiling and violated travelers' civil liberties."

bold mine. Are we still a sovereign country?

[narciso]

I'm reading this, I wonder if they will adapt it as a film, a bank caper with a twist, in the LUN

[hit and run]

Thanks Sara!

[Benjamin Franklin]

"A guy who assumes there's a logical sympathetic connection between a working contractor "looking at hard times economically" and the OWS rabble wonders why nothing seems to be getting through somebody else's noggin?"

Yeah. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I thought the same thing.

Then I realized y'all would rather have a Board of Directors running the Country, whom you can't remove from office without major shareholder status,
other than politicos you CAN toss into the street. That is a systemic difference which seems a bridge too, too far. But I keep
tryin' 'cause 'hope springs eternal'.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Check it out:

Heh: Scott Walker Now Has Higher Wisconsin Approval Than Obama

[pagar]

CAIR Wins again with help from the Obama Admin.
Christians lose AGAIN!

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/10/obamas-muslim-advisers-block-middle-eastern-christians-access-to-white-house.html

[Benjamin Franklin]

MILWAUKEE- While Governor Walker is gearing up to fight a recall effort, it seems voters aren't as enthusiastic about the possible election. In the latest Public Policy Polling numbers: 48% of Wisconsinites favor a recall while 49% are opposed to a recall.

Walker must be breathing easy these days, Sara. That's a significant margin. Care to call the results now?

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Has anyone followed the story where Muslims are demanding that a Catholic university remove all Catholic/Christian religious symbols? BTW, this is a private school.

[Porchlight]

I've thought about him and all he gave us, musically and intellectually.

I miss him a lot, kim, especially this time of year - his birthday was Halloween. Here's to our PUK. Light a special candle on Monday and celebrate him and his expert skewering of Algore....

[Frau Überraschung]

For the site pest, sbw?

[Porchlight]

I saw that story, Sara. Wish the school would tell them to eff off.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Walker must be breathing easy these days, Sara. That's a significant margin. Care to call the results now?

This poll was Walker approval vs Obama's at 47% to 43%.

[hit and run]

Porch:
Wish the school would tell them to eff off.

Wouldn't "go to hell" be more appropriate?

[henry]

Dana, Walker will win a recall. The key facts the media can't spin:

1. Schools are open and fine.

2. Property taxes will be lower (except in Dem strongholds like Milwaukee and Madison) when tax bills show up in December.

The Brewers are more likely to win this year's world series than any Dem win a recall of Walker.