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November 28, 2011

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Dave (in MA)

Pwess confewence at one o'cwock.

Thomas Collins

I suspect he will end up at a connected DC law firm where he will make tons of money influence peddling and trading on information and contacts in the Beltway.

Oops! Sorry for being so un-PC. He will commence an active Governmental Relations practice.

Then again, there is always the possibility that he might do his influence pedd . . . [there I go again] . . . governmental relations activities at an investment bank.

Dave (in MA)

TC, are you sorry that you won't get a chance to vote against him now that your town was moved into his district?

cathyf

To go off-topic early -- question for all you turkey briners: If you have enough space in the right shape container that the turkey is free to bob around, does it tend to float or sink? If it floats, is there a trick to weight it down so that I can set-it-and-forget-it and don't have to worry about flipping the bird?

Thomas Collins

Dave (in MA), I'm sure there will be a suitable replacement on the ballot for me not to fill in the circle next to his or her name (isn't that prog Setti Warren thinking of running).

My main disappointment in Hot Bottoms' enabler not running again is I probably won't be able to avoid all the tributes Mass. prog media will be doling out over the next few days.

centralcal

Most depressed over Barney Frank's pending departure would probably be Bill O'Reilly.

Jane

I suspect he will end up at a connected DC law firm where he will make tons of money influence peddling

I suspect, well, I hope, he will move to Maine to smoke pot with his lover.

Thomas Collins

Then again, I'm sure Howie Carr's sendoff will provide a suitable counterpoint to all the Barney bottom kissing we'll be enduring in the Bay State.

Ranger

Its not just Bawny (via RCP):

Texas Democrat Gonzalez won't run again for House

Gonzalez is the 17th Democrat to retire or leave the Republican-controlled House to run for another office in 2012, Sabato said, noting that only seven sitting House Republicans have made that same decision.

It doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing...

Thomas Collins

Jane, I'll bet his gov relations practice will leave him time for getaways and plenty of money for the best weed.

Now, I know I'm being unfair. I'm sure if a prominent GOP pol was a squeeze of a prostitute running an escort business out of the GOP pol's apartment, MSM would have dropped that story as quickly as it dropped the Hot Bottom story.

MayBee

Geez now we have to deal with the Barney Frank hagiography.

Charlie (Colorado)

To go off-topic early -- question for all you turkey briners: If you have enough space in the right shape container that the turkey is free to bob around, does it tend to float or sink?

Mine floated awash, maybe a 2 square inch bit of the end barely showing. I didn't worry about it.

If it floats, is there a trick to weight it down so that I can set-it-and-forget-it

Clean brick in aluminum foil? A #12 can of tomatoes?

and don't have to worry about flipping the bird?

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Charlie (Colorado)

Sorry, #10 can.

Neo

I see that Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (D-TX), the son who replaced the catatonic Henry Gonzalez (who was unable refused to return to the House when Newt & his gang of Republicans took over), has also decided not to run again. They cite redistricting, but Texas is getting more seats based on the census so I doubt that claim.

Thomas Collins

Quite a thread. Hot bottoms, brining and bird flipping.

Neo

.. what no cow tipping ?

Jack is Back!

Menitoning Texas, Boortz and Jamie DuPree were going at it today regarding the budget, debt, spending, blah, blah, blah. Boortz noted in passing that maybe Texas will just go ahead and split itself into 5ths and send 10 Senators to the Senate. They have never attempted that but it is in the treaty that allowed the annexation of Texas as our 28th state. At the time it was a Republic for 9 years.

Appears to be some disagreement as to whether it requires Congressional approval or just the approval of Texans. But interesting anyway.

Porchlight

Does anyone really believe Frank is really afraid of the voters in the new district? There has to be some scandal in addition to this.

Dave (in MA)

I guess we'll have to wait to hear what he said at his pwess confewence, but I don't see how redistricting would have caused him to leave. His district lost the natural Donk-leaning welfare-heavy New Beff, but the dense moonbat head of the gerrymandered dragon is still intact.

Dave (in MA)

He claims that it is because of redistricting. I guess he doesn't want to have to actually campaign again after '10.

Appalled

Dave:

The guy just might actually be tired of it all.

Jane

It doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing..

My guess is the entire lot of them realize that when people actually figure out what they have been doing all these years there is more than a slight chance they will end up in jail.

And they should.

They should also all be stripped of their wealth.

pagar

"My guess is the entire lot of them realize that when people actually figure out what they have been doing all these years there is more than a slight chance they will end up in jail."

The fact that there exists in the US a person who believes that Barney Frank has helped financial reform is scary.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2011/11/28/is-financial-reform-doomed-after-the-barney-frank-era/?partner=yahootix

Porchlight

The guy just might actually be tired of it all.

If by that you mean that at some point he has stolen enough money, tanked the economy to his satisfaction, and is ready to walk out before they make him run...

Then yeah, I maybe could buy that.

Dave (in MA)

He took a shot at Newt, saying he's not going to become a "historian or lobbyist" after he leaves office. Yeah, he's so squeaky clean.

NK

Dave (inMa)-- thanks for the update. I think like all excuses, there is a grain of truth in Barney's blather. Barney doesn't want to campaign with new voters-- why? to be RANKING member forever? no power in the minority; he gets out now and cashes in before Dodd-Frank is repealed. Always follow the money.

Thomas Collins

Any experts in the federal law on influece peddling restrictions upon one's leaving the House or Senate? My memory is that former Congresscritters can't become registered lobbyists for 2 years after leaving office, but that one can make a lot of money influence peddling in a government relations practice without actually becoming a registered lobbyist. I wonder whether there are JOMers (including those with expertise who may have been lurking) who can shed light on this. My belief is that at 71, Frank decided it was time to take his oligarchical skills to the "private" sector. I doubt he sees an indictment coming. Savvy pols like Frank are skilled at practicing their brand of oligarchic corruption without bringing themselves to the attention of US Attorneys.

NK

I agree TC-- he's cashing in. If the Johnsons and the Raines and the Gorelicks haven't been prosecuted -- hell even Wall St hasn't been prosecuted for the MBSs' that blew up-- Frank's got nothing to worry about. He'll peddle his influence -- legally of course-- it will be something like Dodd got -- MPAA rep-- we'll find out Frank buried some sweetheart rule in some law for some industry, now he gets paid.

narciso

So these might the less financial considerations on his decision,


http://blogs.wpri.com/2011/11/28/new-look-4th-district-likely-pushed-barney-frank-to-retire/

A. Sullivan

Even speaking as a true conservative, I must say I'll miss him.

Ignatz

--The guy just might actually be tired of it all.--

A lefty tired of pushing people around and controlling their lives?
Seems unlikely.

Jack is Back!

NK, I think you're right.

My feeling is he ends up with a talk show on MSNBC where he will become even more irrelevant than Ed Schultz and Al Sharpton.

He's poison to Wall St. if they actually want Dodd-Frank repealed.

rse

cathy-

I was doing an 18.5 pounder so I went with the ice cooler. Kept a large bag of ice on top all night to keep temp safe.

It is a delicious brine but assume it will cook fast as happened to a few of us and check that temp well before you think you need to. I did 425 for 20 and then down to 325. I was using an All Clad roaster though and it may have held the heat. There's a benefit to waiting until your 30s to take up cooking and get married. I bought myself good cookware. Plus I've figured out how to approach and respond to some tricky legal problems will chopping and stirring.

glasater

Heck, no one even took a squint at the ratings agencies who slapped their seal of approval on those MBS's.

Janet - One happy cro magnon!!!

Good Widdance

(picture from the other mccain, comment from Althouse comments)

Danube of Thought

Commenter at Althouse:

His tenure in Congress in a nutshell:

'These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''
Extraneus

Alton Brown recommends the big bag of ice on top method, too.

Danube of Thought

An appeal for the needy.

A. Sullivan

I'll miss that winning smile. The one where he never shows any teeth. It must have taken many years of practice.

Janet - One happy cro magnon!!!

Alton Brown recommends the big bag of ice on top method, too.

Is this post in reference to turkeys or Barney Frank?

Ranger

Via Instapundit:

BREAKING: Huge Explosion In IRAN's Nuke City

It will be interesting to see if this explosion (and the one two weeks ago) is the result of Iranian incompetence, bad luck, or some outside source.

My bet is that these are industrial accidents brought about by overwork resulting from preasure to produce a deliverable nuke before Jan. 2013.

A. Sullivan

If you ever want to go antiquing out on the the cape, call me, Barney, you old lion. We'll pull a bender with some nitrous and maybe an eckie or two and you can forgive me all those harsh words I wrote about you being an orotund nancy boy. Please.

daddy

Okay JOMer's,

Time to get back in touch with our inner gradeschoolers:

No more Franks, No more Weiners,
No more sexting Misdemeanors,
No more Weiners, No more Franks,
No more Pages aching flanks,

No Bush whacking in the gym,
No more pics of your Slim Jim,
No male Hookers in the House,
No more pics of Huma's louse,

No more Fanny, No more Freddy,
No more being Helen Reddy,
No more Freddy, No more Fanny,
No more economic insanity,

No more "Who knows what pot looks like?",
Growing in your back yard bucket,
No free Fire Island Ferry's,
Nor rude limericks 'bout Nantucket,

No more Franks, No more Weiners,
No more robbing kids for Seniors,
No more Weiners, No more Franks,
And for that lets all give thanks.


Jane

My bet is that these are industrial accidents brought about by overwork resulting from preasure to produce a deliverable nuke before Jan. 2013.

WEll that or Israel.

Ranger

Oh, and on topic, let's not forget that the sex for sale ring Bawney was harboring in his house was providing teen-aged boys. So it was, in effect, a child moslestation enterprise as well. And Bawney's controbution to the enterprise was to fix parking tickets that his partner got while parked near school playgrounds where new kids were recruited to participate.

caro

Daddy! Barney bringing out your inner poet.

Hahahahah

Ignatz

MSNBC? Please.
ESPN is reporting Barney will be visiting Penn State because he heard there is a position opening up in their locker room.

Sue

At some point, they have to enter the beltway money conveyor belt. I suspect he is at that point. He will make more money in the private sector and he knows right where to go to make that money.

bio mom

Off topic, but I don't know where else to vent about this. I cannot believe that the cities who say they will evict the OWSers and their various offspring groups are continuing to allow them to stay anyway. This is bad parenting!! You don't threaten consequences when your kids misbehave and then not follow through or they will never believe anything you threaten in the future. Result: uncontrollable kids. I think they applies to thes empty threats against the OWS groups as well.

narciso

Speeaking of the frankly disingenuous;

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/11/28/adventures_in_headline_selection_obama_and_white_voters_edition.html

I'll bet he's right.

Heh, Isfahan's governor says the blast is from a military exercise.
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Sue

Is anyone listening to Sean Hannity? I missed part of what he said but I think I heard him say there is another Herman Cain story dropping this afternoon. Anyone hear what he said?

narciso

Lovely facility, Governor, it would be a shame if something happened to it.

Charlie (Colorado)

Is this post in reference to turkeys or Barney Frank?

Not much difference.

Except, I suppose, that a turkey only gets stuffed once.

Sue

Gack!

A. Sullivan

Well, before you call, Barney, I was wondering...do you pitch or catch? Oh, who am I kidding? Like I really care. It's that silky mouth! Also, I know he's not in your, um, jurisdiction, but do you have that Sundusky fellow's phone number?

MayBee

Bio Mom- the fecklessness of the nation's mayors has really caused a lot of problems, which end up making the job of the police much harder.

You're right, it's bad parenting. If you aren't going to enforce a rule there's no use making it.

Gmax

You want another proxy for the 2012 election, RAS has an approve/disapprove survey on OWS. Its 55% 39% against. Now of course 6% dont yet have an opinion, ( think how lame and out of touch these folks are ). But give everyone of them to the Democrats, who did their level best to align themselves with the loser group. Its still 55 to 45, which in most elections is called a LANDSLIDE.

Seriously, why are all the Democrats declining to run even in blue districts? Hint, large smoking hole in the ground lurks just around the corner.

Dave (in MA)

Drudge:BARNEY BAILS...

DOW SAILS...

daddy

An OT rant.

Insty links this UK Mail online story about Muslim Medical students in Britain refusing to take courses in Darwinist Evolution because it conflicts with their Koranic religious beliefs. Muslim medical students boycotting lectures on evolution... because it 'clashes with the Koran'

The upset Professor is Steve Jones, emeritus professor of human genetics at University College London. I am biased against him because in his books which I've read he constantly erects Conservative straw men and bashes them, or sticks in comments about stupid President Bush etc---that sort of snide stuff.)

What got me in today's story is this quote from Jones:

"What they object to - and I don't really understand it, I am not religious - they object to the idea that there is a random process out there which is not directed by God."

This is what makes me mad about Prof Jones. He says that he does not understand how humans can object to the idea that there is a random process out there which is not directed by God.

That is BS. Any sentient human can understand that idea. Find me an honest human that cannot understand that idea and I will eat my hat. He fully understands that idea. He does not AGREE with that idea, nor do I, but when he says that he does not understand how humans can think that idea, he is lying. He cannot be that stupid. A kindergartner could explain that idea to him. He could and should have said something like, "I can understand how and why they think that, though I disagree, and here is why I disagree."

So I don't want to go into the argument of Evolution or Intelligent Design, tho' it is going to be interesting now to see how the Brit's deal with this issue when it's backed by aggressive Islamic muscle as opposed to benign Fundamentalist Christians. But Jones has long pissed me off with his knee-jerk straw-man comments.

As his buddy Richard Dawkin's ( a much better Evolutionary writer and thinker BTW) told us in The Selfish Gene: “I could not imagine being an atheist before 1859, when Darwin’s Origin of Species was published."

Damn straight. England's preeminent Evolutionist, in his finest book, just told us that virtually everybody in Britain and the rest of the world for that matter, prior to 1859, believed what Emeritus Professor Jones now tells us he does not understand.

Anyhow, just my pet peeve since I have it in for this guy, but if the quote in the story is accurate, and I assume it is since it's similar to stuff I see in his books, I felt it deserved a rant.

YMMV

MayBee

Sue- Breaking News is reporting Herman Cain says there's a woman who is about to come out and say they had an affair.

centralcal

Sue - just for you about what you may have heard on Hannity re: Herman Cain:

Herman Cain tells CNN that a new accuser is coming forward. Cain says the woman will say they had an affair.

centralcal

Cain denies an "affair" and claims just a "relationship."

RichatUF

Damn.

Gmax-

Hope your right.

Jack is Back!

daddy,

You do know that God is sitting up there right now with a big grin on his face. He had a bet with his son that he could get Steve Jones to make a stupid statement just to see how you would react. He does the same thing with the AGW crowd and feeds them all kinds of disinformation just to see how they handle it and what they do when the other side figures it out as BS. He loves to stir the pot and wave the spoon around to show who owns it.

Next for him is blowing stuff up in Iran since he never thought that they would be so stupid to go this far without realizing they were going to be huge targets. After that his experiment with Obama is about concluded. He could never figure out how to make the strings brittle enough to break off in Soros' hands.

There are some things even God can't seem to do.

pagar

"the fecklessness of the nation's mayors has really caused a lot of problems"

My guess is it is most of the city government.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/11/outrage-after-demanding-refund-from-city-for-plaza-protests-richmond-tea-party-gets-letter-youre-being-audited/

jimmyk

he does not understand how humans can object to the idea that there is a random process out there which is not directed by God.

No less a scientist than Einstein objected to this idea, or at least was bothered by it.

centralcal

Cain accuser is business woman Ginger White (there is a name for you). Cain's attorney Lin Wood already sending a warning to media.

Jack is Back!

Cain is toast. Burned toast

Am I being racist?

Jim Ryan

Jack, did you say the J Edgar movie was good? Was thinking of going this week... thx.

Jack is Back!

Jim,

Not me. I said Arthur Christmas was as long as you have a kid take you:)

Jim Ryan

Hmm. Was it someone else in here?

Charlie (Colorado)

Any sentient human can understand that idea.

Ah-HA! There's your problem.

Rick Ballard

Jane,

A perfect outcome would be for Freeh to turn up evidence of a felonious link between Barney Frank and Jon Corzine regarding the theft committed at MF Global. It may be that Freeh was selected for his ability to lay down a thick coat of white wash though.

henry

As expected, school tax levies down 1%, first time since 2005 tax levies are lower. This is good for Walker. The 2005 reduction came as the Dems under Doyle raided the transportation and victims compensation funds while raising taxes to throw money at the unions. (Walker returned the raided money in his budget). The unions claim 4,000 teachers lost their jobs -- this is a lie based on retirements plus layoffs in 3 districts which extended union contracts, and neglecting all new hires. I heard on radio that net there are 1,200 more teachers this year.

Janet - One happy cro magnon!!!

Hmm. Was it someone else in here?

Someone here did say it was good, Jim.

That Richmond Tea Party story is unbelievable, pagar. I guess it is no different than illegals running around all over yet I am suppose to obey the laws... :(

Jack is Back!

Jim,

I think it was either MarkO or PD.

Benjamin Franklin

Indeed. A new paradigm of finite size (Global) and bacterial shape awaits us. Get your food stores in order.....now

http://kunstler.com/blog/2011/11/your-new-american-dream.html

The situation at hand is not a "depression," though it may resemble the experience of the 1930s in the early going. It's the permanent re-set and reorganization of everyday life amidst a desperate scramble for resources. It will go on and on until there are far fewer people competing for things while the ones who endure construct new systems for daily living based on fewer resources used differently.

Danube of Thought

I'm hearing 14-year affair.

Get out, Herman. It's not working, and it's over.

Neo

SO at their peak, the banks borrow $1.2 trillion and made a $13 billion profit.
Any banker should be ashamed .. of such a low profit margin as 1.08 % over how many years ?

narciso

'Yo no entiendo' I don't understand, how they can do this, after Hyde, Gingrich, Ensign, 'but we really dodged a bullet with that moose hunting gal' man, that would have been
embarassing.

MayBee

Wow, pagar. That is scary.

I'm trying to follow the Occupy LA non-evacuation. I know they've filed in court to keep from having to evacuate, claiming that the LA city council passed a declaration in support of them.

Benjamin Franklin

There is hope for your Nietzchean Hail Mary! which you call, ABO!

Roemer/ Lieberman 2012. lol

Benjamin Franklin

http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/27/press-release-roemer-announces-senator-lieberman-as-first-choice-for-vp-running-mate/

.

Danube of Thought

Correction: 13-year affair.

narciso

The New Republic is like the new Comics pages;


http://www.tnr.com/article/97758/obama-insular-psychology

Benjamin Franklin

It's a very thin red line between electioneering and election watching.


http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_65/Parties-Contest-Election-Monitoring-Techniques-210564-1.html


"Some of the complaints against the election monitors were for activities that are allowed under Texas law. Poll watchers can .ensure voters provide proper identification and review the ballots of individuals seeking translation services.
Hector de Leon, a spokesman for the Harris County Clerk’s office, which received some of the voter complaints, downplayed them.
“People were just uncomfortable with [poll watchers]. We understand that. However, the law provides that that can happen,” he said.
At least some of the activity was illegal, according to the Campaign Legal Center, which documented poll watchers telling voters they must vote in English. Monitors are not allowed to speak to voters.
“Those are the types of activities the Voting Rights Act was designed to stop,” said Gerald Hebert, the group’s executive director.
The Campaign Legal Center supported the Texas Democratic Party in a lawsuit against King Street Patriots. It argues that the tea party group made an in-kind donation to the Republican Party by training the poll watchers, which would violate Texas campaign finance law. The lawsuit also asks that the tea party group be required to disclose its donors. As a 501(c)(4) corporation, King Street Patriots is not currently required by federal law to do so.

Benjamin Franklin

"The unions claim 4,000 teachers lost their jobs -- this is a lie based on retirements plus layoffs"

Henry;

It's not a lie or a coincidence. Those retiring teachers weren't all planning on early retirement.

narciso

At every point, they project on to others what they do themselves;

http://www.campaignfreedom.org/newsroom/detail/hypocrisy-and-smears-typical-of-the-campaign-legal-center

narciso

Ditto, it's almost as if they want the field to themselves;

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/left-wing-foundation-influence-disclosed-among-fcc-rule-change-petitioners/

Jim Ryan

Thanks. I'll go see it.

Here in C-ville, Occupy Charlottesville is past its deadline for evac but that's okay. City Council and the mayor are okay with that. They are looking for a new site for them. Over here at this other park? No, there's no free city wireless there. Hmm. Well, we'll find somewhere. No hurry.

henry

Dana, even politifact rated that one "pants on fire"

Sara

On local news late last night re: LA OWSer pending eviction, they interviewed some lawyer who had flown in with a bunch of other lawyers from all over the country to give legal advice to the OWSers. The lawyer was an idiot, but just after, they turned to a decently dressed guy who said what may be the best statement I've heard yet: The Constitution gives us all the right to speak out, but nowhere does it enumerate the right to camp out.

Ignatz

Excellent article by Michael Barone at NRO who cites CBO and other studies establishing the fact the income taxes from 1979 to now have actually slightly decreased income inequality, despite rates being lower now than then, and that welfare and similar transfer payments like Medicare and SS have increased income inequality.

As usual, the world works nothing like the very smart and nuanced lefties tell us it should but it does work very much like the supposedly simple minded, bitter clingers maintain.

Clarice

Jus got back with a ton to do. Missed Soylent's birthday yesterday..HB Soyltent!!

glasater

Freeh may do a very good job, Rick. He was like a dog with a bone on the Khobar Towers bombing.

Stephanie

And so she talked. Before our interview, we checked into Ginger White's background. We found she filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001. That case was settled.

We also found a bankruptcy filing nearly 23 years ago in Kentucky, and a number of eviction notices here in DeKalb County over the past six years. The most recent happened this month.

...

We also found a lawsuit filed by a former business partner, Kimberly Vay, who once sought a "stalking temporary protective order" against Ms. White for "repeated e-mails/texts threatening lawsuit and defamation of character." The case was dismissed; but was followed by a libel lawsuit against Ms. White. A judge entered an order in favor of Kimberly Vay because Ms. White failed to respond to the lawsuit.

When asked why, under those circumstances, her claims against Cain should be believed, White said, “Because I admit it. Whatever happened with Kim happened. Just as there would make no sense for me to come out with these allegations against Herman if it absolutely wasn't true.”

Her attorney, Ed Buckley, says she didn't answer the lawsuit because she didn't know about it, and she thought her business dispute had been settled with negotiations.


Holy Moley Batman...

Full disclosure... I believe I know this woman and if it is who I think, she is full of fail. I think I interviewed her for a job some years back and even then she was hinky. She also wasn't happy that she didn't get the job and dogged me for weeks to find her something else til I started having the admin screen my calls. Bat shit crazy does not begin to describe this chick.

centralcal

Wow, Stephanie. Wouldn't it be something if she is the same crazy gal?

Rick Ballard

glasater,

I suppose the optimum outcome would be Freeh, as trustee, instituting clawback procedures from all the Democrats who were MF Global clients and were made whole by Corzine using other clients money.

It would be rather surprising to find that no Dem pols would have used Obama's go to guy on Wall Street to execute trades based upon their insider knowledge.

MarkO

Herman is Mr. Excitement. Ginger may be "bat shit crazy," but that hardly justifies the near admission that Cain put out in response. He's clearly a busy boy.

On the subject of the desire of some men for certain women, I'm remided of the frantic lines from "The Four Seasons." I always laugh at the dullness of those who wonder why:

"Nick: Are you upset with me for some reason?

Jack: I just feel really let down by you. I happen to know that you betrayed your wife dozens of times.

Nick: [pauses to think] Okay, if I did, that's what I did to her. What did I do to you?

Jack: You didnt tell either of us.

Nick: What, every time I have an affair with a hat-check girl, I have to run and tell you?

Jack: That's who you were having affairs with? Hat-check girls?

Nick: No! They were all top professionals in their fields. I can't tell you all their names, but two of them were Margaret Thatcher and Indira Gandhi."

Bat shit crazy, all of them.

Bye, bye Mr. Cain.

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