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November 22, 2011

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narciso

The Nexus 6 is quite lifelike, I've moved on in my metaphors, Rick, I'm not as sanguine that he would be so successful, though.

BR

Yeah, Mel, amazing how Heinlein's description of the chaotic riots in a Balkanized US so closely match the current OWS crowd.

Benjamin Franklin

" though, is whether a second Obama term is anything I even want to contemplate."

The reason we're all in this quandary is the 'muddle'. Romney will be no different from Obama, than Obama was from Bush. We get the Republic we deserve/

Uh, I guess you understand why I'm so popular here. I'm not very good at softening the blow. In fact, I need that velocity in order to punch through the 'crust'.

jimmyk

He's certainly not my first pick but he can beat BOzo and that's all that matters in the end.

Yes--normally I'd put some weight on the long-term damage that a mushy Republican can do. Bush I gave us eight years of Clinton (not to mention the last 11 years) and his wife, which in turn (as history will undoubtedly show, if their are any unbiased historians) gave us 9/11 and the mortgage debacle. But this is an emergency, and I'll certainly take ABO. And given the balance on SCOTUS, on the off chance that Barry doesn't run (which was my prediction six months ago), I'll take AROD (any Republican over [a] Democrat)--even ARod if he's a Republican. (And, if TK is listening, I think ARod is eligible.)

Benjamin Franklin

We'll see how they do when they, finally, have to do SOMETHING.

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/budget-approriations/195139-rep-frank-supercommittee-failure-good-news-for-democrats

“The people who want to say ‘no’ have more leverage,” Frank said in a telephone interview. “Every showdown until now, the right wing had more leverage. They tended to benefit more from gridlock. Now, thanks to sequestration and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, .gridlock is bad for the right wing. So they are now going to be forced to deal.”

(Another) Barbara

Do you have a large ice chest, JiB? That's where my brine and turkey will go in a couple of hours, both of my refrigerators being already wall-to-wall with other goodies. You can put the brine and bird in a doubled plastic trash bag, seal it tightly down around him, and surround the bag with ice.

Or just turn him every few hours; I've certainly done that a few times.

I thought Newt was doing an interesting jiggidity at yesterday's debate when he talked about immigration. Yes, certainly each and every illegal entrant will be investigated thoroughly to determine his contributions to the community, his regular attendance at church, his loyalty to our country, and the other conditions Newt outlined in the fantasy he wove. Riiiight. It's called "amnesty."

NK

MelR--- "witheld" still doesn't answer 'why?' is it possible that there weren't enough 'real' investors at the posted rate, but instead the ECB was going to buy those bonds to effectively steal german credit rating to back door bail out the PIIGS by QE w/o German consent? If something like that occured, I would not call that 'voluntary' witholding the bonds from auction. Again, I don't know the workings of Bund auctions, but this is just more evidence of eurozone sovereign debt insanity.

narciso

Ah Dillinger speaks, or is it Sundance, the man has no shame, even McCarry would have been hardpressed to describe him, although
Drury probably did illustrate the type.

Jim Ryan

Our local fire department is pleading with us not to stick a frozen turkey in boiling oil. I agree.

FOLKS, PLEASE, DON'T STICK A TURKEY IN BOILING OIL. IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CAUSE NO PROBLEM BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. VERY, VERY DANGEROUS! PLEASE, FOLKS, DON'T DO IT!

I'm glad Homeland Security is on this, too. Please, people!

Benjamin Franklin


102% ? That's a little high....


http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/rj-eskow/39794/tax-the-rich-in-fact-lets-double-their-taxes

Well, I do get it. When I was spent a student year in Great Britain the top marginal tax rate was 102%. Once a person reached a certain level of income, they had to pay more in taxes than they earned. And a few years before that, George Harrison made a compelling case against the 95% tax bracket on the Revolver album by singing "Taxman." (The line is "that's one for you, nineteen for me." I make that a 95% marginal tax rate, but you can check my math if you like.)

So I'll come right out and admit it: Taxes can be too high. But that doesn't answer the biggest question of all: What's the ideal top tax bracket? Where can we set the percentage so that it provides the most revenue for the Federal government without discouraging high earners from making more money?

MayBee

I will happily vote for Romney. I will pull that lever (make that dot) with gusto and a grin on my face.

Ditto Perry.


Jack is Back!

(A)B,

Good idea - will see how that works. Because of the size of Old Tom, I may not have made enough brine but turning him often should work. Thanks.

Jane

How, after 2,100 pages of Dodd-Frank, did the MF Global fiasco occur?

(raising hand)

Corzine used all his sway with the WH to get the investigators off his back - at least according to John Stewart so you know it is much much worse.

Benjamin Franklin


Spengler may want to send the good Lt...http://peppersprayingcop.tumblr.com/page/4

http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2011/11/22/egypt-and-turkey-middle-east-basket-cases/


Reuters reports:

CAIRO Nov 22 (Reuters) – Egypt’s pound fell to its weakest against the dollar since January 2005 on Tuesday as mass protests against army rule prompted the cabinet to tender its resignation and threw polls into doubt, giving a fresh jolt to a shaky business climate.

The Central Bank of Egypt (CBE) has sought to defend the currency during the nine turbulent months since the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak, but now traders said the pound could soon break through 6 to the dollar as investors run for cover.

They said demand for dollars among local companies and individuals had grown with the street clashes that have left 36 people dead since Saturday. Voting in the three-phase poll for the lower house of parliament is due to start on Nov. 28.

Egypt’s stock market is in free-fall, down 50% since the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak. What’s interesting is that Turkey’s stock market isn’t far behind.

Jack is Back!

How, after 2,100 pages of Dodd-Frank, did the MF Global fiasco occur?,/i>

The regulators are still reading it and don't have time for enforcing it - yet!

Danube of Thought

But--but--wasn't "regulation" supposed to be the answer? Isn't there a regulation somewhere in there preventing the use of one's sway with the WH?

I'm so confused...

Jack is Back!

Off

NK

MelR-- OK I read the link-- found it confusing. Seems to say the Bund was witheld to keep rates low, because it would have failed otherwise. As I said I found the link confusing.

matt

We're in the best of hands!

Bammers has submitted more unqualified candidates for the Federal bench than Bush & Clinton combined according to the Upper East Side Pennysaver. LUN

Benjamin Franklin

I haven't seen you bashing Romney, MayBee. I'm glad you won't have to eat crow next Thanksgiving. They are stringy, even when brined.

narciso

Goldman, has the foresight of having pointed this out earlier, I guess they are going for Muharram, rather a strictly October date. Wht will Fairly Ridiculous say now?

Benjamin Franklin


2 years, and counting.......

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/books/review/11-22-63-by-stephen-king-book-review.html?_r=1&pagewanted=al


"Once in Dallas, Amberson has years to get to know Oswald, but he can’t just bust down the door. History is fragile; he has to peer around corners. He buys tape recorders and long-distance listening devices, moves into grubby neighborhoods, trails Oswald as he stashes his rifle. What he learns is no surprise. Oswald was unpleasant in ordinary ways. Emotional, violent with his wife, unsure of himself and desperate to change a broken world."

Melinda Romanoff

Did you go back to that link?

Melinda Romanoff

Sorry! Overlapped with a call.

More in a bit.

Benjamin Franklin

"Attack of the Killer Veggies" Moochelle weeps....lol.

http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/121704/veggiewar720.png

narciso

He is like Venkman but without the humor;


http://theothermccain.com/2011/11/23/obama-flunks-history-mischaracterizes-hoover-economic-policy/

Jack is Back!

From Jay Leno last night:)

"Officials in New York City have arrested an al-Qaida sympathizer for allegedly planning a terrorist attack. You know, I hope al-Qaida gets the message. If we want to be terrorized over Thanksgiving, we have our relatives come visit us."

narciso

And this is sort of a synthesis of Matt and Soylent's points;


http://theothermccain.com/2011/11/23/afghanistanpakistan-points-so-glaringly-obvious-they-got-zero-mention-during-the-gop-foreign-policy-debate/

Porchlight

These spoiled brats have never lived in a small town where there was limited availability of lots of products. Now everyone in town can choose a camera or bike or barbecue grill from a wide variety. How is that bad?

Michelle Obama makes a big point of the underserved populations in inner cities who have no access to groceries except what can be found at convenience stores. But Michelle's political compadres hate Wal-Mart, where previously underserved populations can now get any manner of goods and groceries at low prices, 24/7.

Wal-Mart is an enormous boon for low-income people, but no, it must be relentlessly spat upon by those who consider themselves the betters of Wal-Mart shoppers.

I despise the left.

Jim Miller

daddy - That's fascinating news on the Allen family. The daughter-in-law murder case is strange in many ways; the one that strikes me most is that the authorities aren't sure of a motive, though murder for hire is a possibility. (And the man accused of murder is both a programmer and a musician, of sorts.)

Those more familiar with Massachusetts than I am may spot some similarities to the way that authorities protected Whitey Bulger all those years.

A really good source -- from the prosecutor's point of view -- may end up distorting legal processes horribly.

Danube of Thought

Peter Ferrara (author of amicus briefs in two of the cases):

"I am predicting that the Supreme Court will strike down the entire Obamacare law on a 5-4 ruling. That starts with the individual mandate, which the Court will find unconstitutional because it has reiterated several times in recent cases that it will enforce some limit on the Commerce Clause as justification for federal regulation, reserving the role of police power to regulate for the general public good to the states. Virtually all the judges in all the lower court cases concluded that there was no precedent anywhere in U.S. history upholding a law requiring citizens to purchase a good or service. Not participating in interstate commerce by choosing not to buy a product or service leaves no basis for regulation to compel such participation under the Commerce Clause power to regulate interstate commerce.

"The fate of that argument before the Supreme Court is indicated by the thorough opinions of District Court Judge Roger Vinson in the 11th Circuit, District Court Judge Henry Hudson in the Fourth Circuit, and the majority of the 11th Circuit panel striking down the Obamacare individual mandate. These judges are good indicators as to how similarly minded Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Chief Justice Roberts will come out."

MayBee

Remember when Michelle had to step down from her board position at WalMart supplier Treehouse Foods (fine makers of processed food) because Obama was bashing WalMart in the campaign?

MayBee

Jim Ryan- I am thinking of putting my frozen turkey in boiling oil. What say you?

NK

MelR--

yes the Kaminska article in FT. Found it confusing-- so did some of the commenters. Is the Bundesbank monetizing German sovereign debt? ECB debt? or both?

Benjamin Franklin

I don't think Hoover used the term 'trickle-down' either. That was before they recognized people weren't stupid enough to transition
to the reality of 'rain' vs mictoration.

The good news is, they don't have to distort Obama's words. That's news to these guys.

matt

The Dexia case has me more worried than German Bunds.90 Billion Euros is a lot of money and now it looks like the deal is blowing up.

When one has banks and the ECB holding large amounts of known bad debt from Greece and elsewhere and has it on the books without discounting it or reserving against probable losses, the sanity of the system must be questioned.

I am hoping and praying that American banks have been busy building firewalls and dumping these turkeys. Then again, Corzine may have just shafted the American markets by his own self.

MayBee

The White House propaganda machine ruined another food network show last night.

"Chopped" had Sam Kass as a judge and some school lunch ladies as the contestants. He called the women heroes and thanked them for their service to the country.

They even showed the stupid plate icon to show how many vegetables need to be on the plate. More is better! said Sam Kass.

Benjamin Franklin

"where previously underserved populations can now get any manner of goods and groceries at low prices, 24/7."

Wal-Mart is just another Chinese franchise. Only Super WM have full groceries and not all are open 24/7. Just sayin'.

Porchlight

I'd forgotten about that, MayBee. It's all great when she's taking money from them, I guess.

Jane

Isn't there a regulation somewhere in there preventing the use of one's sway with the WH?

Now now, we don't need that with the most transparent administration evah!! Besides if the WH says they are the good guys then you can be sure they are!

narciso

Of course they do, what could go wrong;


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/23/dexia-guarantees-idUSL5E7MN0KZ20111123

narciso

'Those are not my losses, Mssier'

Benjamin Franklin

Sooper Dooper Tiger Moms...

http://www.businessweek.com/printer/magazine/chinas-superrich-buy-a-better-life-abroad-11222011.html

For the most part, China’s richest aren’t permanently fleeing their country, as some Russian oligarchs have. About 80 percent of the wealthy Chinese emigrating don’t plan on giving up their passports, according to an October survey by the Bank of China and Shanghai-based Hurun Report, which publishes an annual .ranking of China’s richest people. Instead, the most common model is that of Li Weijie: Wife and child get foreign passports and live abroad, husband gets a residency permit but spends most of his time in China. “If you think of emigrating like Russians, it is because they are afraid and so are leaving their country,” says Hurun’s founder, Rupert Hoogewerf. “This is not true of the wealthy Chinese at all. They still have their businesses in China and most of their assets are in yuan.”

So why are they looking at residency abroad? The top motive cited is to pursue better educational opportunities for their children, according to the Bank of China-Hurun and China Merchants-Bain surveys, as well as comments from émigrés. The feeling among rich Chinese is that U.S. universities beat out their Chinese equivalents, and their children need to understand the world. Émigrés note that top Chinese leaders such as Xi Jinping, likely China’s next president, send their children abroad to study. Escaping dire air quality and food safety problems are also factors.

MayBee

FWIW, Michelle made $36,000/year for her very part time work on the board. This is also the Michelle Obama who preached that people stay away from corporate jobs.

Here is what Treehouse foods makes:

Founded in 2005.... non-dairy powdered coffee creamer, canned soup, salad dressings and sauces, sugar-free drink mixes and sticks, instant oatmeal and hot cereals, macaroni and cheese, skillet dinners and other value-added side dishes and salads; salsa and Mexican sauces, jams and pie fillings under the E.D. Smith brand name, pickles and related products and other food products including aseptic sauces, refrigerated salad dressings, and liquid non-dairy creamer.

When it's her money on the line, processed foods are just dandy.

Rick Ballard

"I am hoping and praying that American banks have been busy building firewalls and dumping these turkeys."

Matt,

Not to worry, all the risk is covered by CDS. WF is counterparty to BAC which is counterparty to JPM and GS which are both counterpartys to WF. PIMCO is backstopped by Allianz which is guaranteed by UBS which has an agreement with Generali which is undergirded by massive holdings of rock solid WF.

Simple, really. As long as none of them go under.

narciso

What was Blutarsky's advice again,

centralcal

Jim Ryan- I am thinking of putting my frozen turkey in boiling oil. What say you?

Hopefully, he will advise you not to do so in the nude ;)

NK

RickB-- now you have completely confused me. But-- it does sound ominous. What could possible go wrong?

Danube of Thought

Earlier I saw someone observing that the administraion is weighing in on school lunches in Idaho, while the Senate hasn't passed a budget in over two years.

I am so glad I'm in my Golden Years.

Melinda Romanoff

NK-

The gist of the withholding has more to do with actively suppressing repo markets, where EU banks go for their funding, as opposed to the capital mkts and deposits that US banks use. The primacy of the Bundesbank in controlling this angle of the market exposes the true impotency of the ECB and the final death rattle of the EU's finances. Really breathtaking how they are saving themselves (Germany) over all others.

No monetizing or anything like that by any party, yet.

Benjamin Franklin

Get it out in the open. Let the chips fall where they may.......I'm reminded of a line from the film 'Billy Budd'

Claggert:" The sea is calm you said. Peaceful. Calm above, but below a world of gliding monsters preying on their fellows. Murderers, all of them."


http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_holy_grail_of_the_jfk_story/


"No doubt inadvertently, the National Geographic JFK special fostered a reassuring yet false view of American history: that there is little reason to doubt the official story blaming a “lone nut.” In fact, Bobby and Jackie were not alone in suspecting conspiracy in Dallas. At the time, 60 percent of Dallas residents suspected a plot. JFK’s successor, Lyndon Johnson, privately suspected a plot emanating from JFK enemies in Cuba or Vietnam. In Havana, Fidel Castro, a man whose peaceful dotage is proof positive he knows something about detecting CIA conspiracies, concluded JFK had been killed by a right-wing faction within his own government. More recently, University of Virginia professor Larry Sabato, a mainstream political pundit and author of a forthcoming book on the legacy of Kennedy’s assassination, has joined critics of the official JFK story."

Jim Ryan

MayBee, not sure. Don't do it? Not sure. Need to ask DHS for clarification.

NK

MelR-- thanks got it. So there is no ECB, the EU is broke and Deutchsland Uber Alles!!!!

Jack is Back!

A bit of a read and somewhat technical but understandable.

Why even if you have a shovel ready project it does not mean it is truly shovel ready.

As Newt said last night - are we a serious people any longer or not?

Jack is Back!

Here is a very interesting graphic from the National Post via Ben Domenach.

Anyone But Romney in color.

If anyone has Kathleen Parker's email send it to her.

pagar

Janet,
"How is that bad?"

Janet, If it's not a state ran store the leftists want it closed. They want no private enterprise of any form, IMO.

Rick Ballard

NK,

Who's not broke? It's just a graceful (to this point) failure rather than a catastrophic failure. The bill for the chimeric "social safety net" has come due and is being rejected.

Merkel and Sarkozy are ordering everyone to lie back and think of EUtopia but it ain't gonna work.

Rick Ballard

NK,

Who's not broke? It's just a graceful (to this point) failure rather than a catastrophic failure. The bill for the chimeric "social safety net" has come due and is being rejected.

Merkel and Sarkozy are ordering everyone to lie back and think of EUtopia but it ain't gonna work.

Benjamin Franklin

"They want no private enterprise of any form, IMO."

Proof that your opinions will evacuate on Friday morning making that turkey a part of your short-term memory.

narciso

Fidel's peaceful dotage, what kind of carp is that;

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/us-cuba/diaz-balart.htm

narciso

From the link;


Mr. SOURWINE. Did you know one Leonel Gomez?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. Yes, I know who he was.

Mr. SOURWINE. Who was he?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. He was the leader of the secondary institute of Havana.

(At this point, Senator Keating withdrew from the hearing room.)

Mr. SOURWINE. Was be the president of the student body in Havana No. 1 High School?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. That is right.

Mr. SOURWINE. Is he alive now?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. Yes.

Mr. SOURWINE. He is still alive?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. He is still alive.

Mr. SOURWINE. Do you recall that he was shot in 1947 on Ronda Street in Havana?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. Yes, sir.

Mr. SOURWINE. Do you know who shot, him?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. Yes, sir. Fidel Castro.

Mr. SOURWINE. How do you know this?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. Because Fidel Castro told me that. He invited me to participate with him in the killing of that student, and I refused, because I am a Christian, I am against killing, and besides that, there was not any reason to.

Mr. SOURWINE. Why did he want to kill Gomez?

Mr. DIAZ BALART. Because he thought at that moment that Gomez, being a personal friend of President [Grau San] Martin, at that moment the President of Cuba, he was going to be a big obstacle before the ambition of Castro.

Benjamin Franklin

To protect the 'innocent' is a familiar dodge...

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_holy_grail_of_the_jfk_story/

“Critical documents that could explain more about what happened are being hidden, and aggressively so,” Sabato told me in an email. “It’s no wonder a large majority of Americans believe in various conspiracy theories. There’s plenty to be suspicious about.”.

Sabato has company in academia. There is a growing scholarly consensus that JFK was killed by a conspiracy. Since 2000, five tenured historians at U.S. universities have published scholarly studies that addressed the causes of JFK’s death. Four of the five concluded there was a conspiracy (though they did not all agree on who was responsible).

narciso

Yes, SAbato, the one who 'suddenly recalled' racist comments by George Allen, on the eve of an election,

Benjamin Franklin

Yes. Some sort of 'exculpatory evidence'. We'll see in 2013.

narciso

Fidel, has always been a thug, some might say
he's been the OG, maybe that was why the likes of Mailer adored him.

narciso

He used to be considered one of the New Democrats, now he's just a minion;


http://www.tnr.com/article/the-permanent-campaign/97730/obama-campaign-negative-schoen

Thomas Collins
"“Too much weird stuff went on,” Stone said, but admitted his movie has limitations. “We can only present a counter myth. We can’t prove anything.”

I hadn't realized that Stone admitted that his movie was factually challenged. See LUN for an article on the Stone-Sabato chat.

narciso

How does one say 'I won' in Urdu;


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/22/ambassador-husain-haqqani-s-exit-leaves-u-s-without-key-pakistan-ally.html

Rocco

Didn't some tapes Caroline recently released claim her mother thought Johnson was responsible for JFK's murder?

NK

Rick Ballard says:
"Who's not broke? It's just a graceful (to this point) failure rather than a catastrophic failure. The bill for the chimeric "social safety net" has come due and is being rejected." That IS the whole truth about Euro Lefties and American Libs-- eventually they run out of OPM, and they default. All financial machinations aside you have hit on the simple truth of the matter Rick. Of course, you and no one else is allowed to speak this simple truth in the salons of the Continent or in plush Victorian libraries in the UK. It is such "crass American Cowboy Capitalist talk" to tell these truthes. When I think of all the lecturing these Euro pricks did when the US housing bubble popped, all the while they were covering up the sovereign debt debacle they were hiding, it makes me want to spit. (apologies for the vulgarity)

C.R.

Narciso, it's truly depressing that he will die peacefully in his own bed.

Benjamin Franklin

"I hadn't realized that Stone admitted that his movie was factually challenged"

JFK was classic dis-information, TC. Repeating the least provable rumorrhoids--easily disputed. The 'Magic Bullet' is the only shred which he managed to retain.

Danube of Thought

Russky newsbabe displays minimal high regard for the Transformational One. LUN

Ignatz

--Not to worry, all the risk is covered by CDS.--

Which in turn is covered by DC's hand in the taxpayer's wallet.
One would hope the taxpayer would eventually learn to replace his wallet with a rat trap.

Jane

Rocco,

Howie Carr was reluctantly talking about how he thinks the mob killed JFK yesterday. He made a hell of a compelling case.

Jane

Did Woody Allen die or something. Suddenly he is all over TV.

Benjamin Franklin

Yes, the Mob was just as pissed as the anti-Castro crowd. All those lost Casinos, you see.

Batista was a Free-Marketer.

Thomas Collins

Why would Stone allow himself to be a tool for dis-information, BFF (or why would he be a purveyor of dis-information in this case)? I could see why he would present a factually challenged movie that would put butts in the movie theater seats and receipts in his pocket. But I never thought of Stone as a dupe of a dis-information campaign or a purveyor of dis-information.

Benjamin Franklin

That's the problem with dupe's, TC. They are usually the last to know.

Benjamin Franklin

That's why Deep Throat told Woodward that he spilled his candy in the lobby when he shot too high, before he had done the foundational work.....

"Now, everyone feels safe"

MayBee

Part of a newsflash that made me do a doubletake on Thanksgiving eve:

Turkey urges pilgrims to avoid traveling home

MayBee

actual news flash:

US urges Americans to leave Syria 'immediately;' Turkey urges pilgrims to avoid traveling home through Syria - @CBSNews

Benjamin Franklin

Hmmm. no questiones, MayBee?

rse

jane-

a son of Allen and Mia Farrow has been named a Rhodes scholar in the last few days.

NK

JFK?-- simple truthes. A man with a rifle, a scope, marksman training and an elevated sniper position can kill another man - rather easily. The rest is all talk.

Rocco

Jane

I remember seeing a show on the History Channel (I think it was the History Channel) and they spoke about a one on one meeting between Joe Kennedy and Sam Giangana. They said no one knows what transpired during that meeting but Kennedy went on to win the election with help from the Teamsters in Chicago. Then one of the first things JFK did was appoint Bobby to Attorney General who went after the mob...makes sense to me.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Just Put the F*cking Turkey in the Oven (Video)

Ignatz

--a son of Allen and Mia Farrow has been named a Rhodes scholar in the last few days--

All these pasty faced, left wing American pukes trooping over to study in the name of Cecil Rhodes lends an air of irony almost as great as the Drone King Barack receiving a peace prize from the inventor of the forerunner to the HE used in the Hellfires his peaceful foreign policy is largely based on.

Ignatz

It seems almost impossible to me that the little commie creep who fired the rifle which propelled the bullet into JFK's head killing him could possibly have committed the crime.
And could someone please explain to me how the NRA life member, tax rate cutting, anti-communist, missile gap exploiting JFK has remained a hero of the left?
If he was running today he'd not only be run out of the Democrat party, he'd be the poster boy for how far right the whacky Republicans have lurched.

pagar


If the Obama Admin and big labor have their way private jobs in the US will be gone before the Admin ends.

http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/11/21/obama-administration-sends-weapons-contract-to-foreign-company-with-ties-to-iran/

"Keep in mind, this doesn’t appear to be a question of being outbid or outclassed. In fact, this seems to be a classic example of a contract being awarded without any bidding process at all, something you may remember infuriated the left when the recipient of the contract was American company Haliburton."

"There’s a big difference this time. The company the no-bid contract went to isn’t an American company"
-----------------------------
http://biggovernment.com/dloos/2011/11/23/how-much-control-does-big-labor-have-over-indiana/

"And employers from Illinois to Ohio will be watching to decide if they can stay in the Midwest or even remain in the U.S."

"Indiana is located at one of the crossroads of America, and it has the opportunity to become a free state where workers can no longer be forced into union servitude".

Just imagine the joy of not being forced into union slavery. Oh wait. Just got word that that has been tried already. The Obama Admin has told Boeing that they are not free to move their business to a state where workers can not be held in union slavery.

NK

Ignatz covers the Rhodes and Noble issues in a tidy package.

Rocco

Maybe it wasn't the History Channel since they decided not to use this information in their latest mini series, "The Kennedys"


Some disputed material was altered or taken out. A scene in which Joseph P. Kennedy asks the Chicago mobster Sam Giancana to help throw the 1960 presidential election to John F. Kennedy was updated to add Frank Sinatra as a mediator between Kennedy senior and Giancana.

NK

Ignatz-- Oswald pulled off his shots from an elevated position a few hundred feet behind a slow moving car. This link shows confirmed sniper kills from .9 - 1.5 MILES away. Snipers are dangerous predators, and can kill a man easily. Too easily. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

Benjamin Franklin

He had 'Maggie's Drawers, NK

Benjamin Franklin

http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/the_critics/griffith/Oswald_poor_shot.html


.

Ignatz

--Ignatz-- Oswald pulled off his shots from an elevated position a few hundred feet behind a slow moving car.--

NK,
From his position he didn't even need to hold any lead on JFK. A quite poor shot could hit that target nine times out of ten with a rest.

NK

Benji--- first you trash Ollie Stone, now you quote his BS mythology movie? Oswald was a competent USMC rifleman, earning a "Sharpshooter" and a lower "Marksman" badge. Was he a world class sniper -- no. But unfortunately, for a nation at sleepy peace in November 1963, a competent rifleman was more than enough skill to pull off those sniper shots. I know facts don't matter to you Benji, but here's the Wiki quote and link: "Like all Marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting, scoring 212 in December 1956[11] (slightly above the minimum for qualification as a sharpshooter) but in May 1959 scoring only 191[11] (barely earning the lower designation of marksman).[22]"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

NK

Ignatz said "NK,
From his position he didn't even need to hold any lead on JFK. A quite poor shot could hit that target nine times out of ten with a rest." absolutely true Ignatz. It was not a deflection shot, it was made from analmost from a 600 o'clock high position. it was tragically, a piece of cake, for that little POS. He did have to hold his nerve killing the POTUS -- but he did, and the rest is history.

Dave (in MA)
A scene in which Joseph P. Kennedy asks the Chicago mobster Sam Giancana to help throw the 1960 presidential election to John F. Kennedy was updated to add Frank Sinatra as a mediator between Kennedy senior and Giancana.
"Look, you rum-running mick, I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool. You wanna get Humphrey out of the way, this is what it's going to take."
Jane

Rocco,

That was essentially Howie's story. And Howie himself was the target of the mob for a while.

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