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November 21, 2011


Danube of Thought

Lech Walesa honors the Gipper:

"Lech Walesa said that there would not be a free Poland without Ronald Reagan, during the unveiling of a statue in Warsaw of the late American president on Monday. The former Solidarity leader said that ''as a participant in these events,'''it was ''inconceivable'' that such changes would have come about without the last American president during the post-1945 cold-war era. Walesa added that thirty years ago, it seemed that the fall of the communist system would not be possible without a nuclear war."

In Eastern Europe, they know.

JM Hanes

Anyone who is tired of serving up the same ole, same ole Holiday Turkey may be glad to know that there are other time-honored Thanksgiving options. Here's one which has been passed down from generation to generation, for a couple thousand years:

Homeric Seaside BBQ

Pick a prayer* and choose someone to say grace.
Corral some cattle, toss out barley to distract them.
Slaughter, skin & butcher as needed.
Double fold thigh meat and fat together, wrap in skin.
Charbroil on cleft stick, basting well with wine.
When you can stick a five pronged fork in it, it's done!
Slice liver, chop remaining meat in cubes for kebobs.
Roast to your liking.
East and drink till you're fit to burst.
[Don't worry about spilling the wine - it's traditional!]
Sing drunkenly till dark, and pass out on the beach.**

* Appeasing Apollo is always a good choice.
** For further details, see: Iliad (Johnston) Lines 534 - 566.


Make sure to wear the Viking helmet, Danube,

Jim Ryan

Sitting on pins and needles. Occupy Charlottesville says they aren't going to leave their camp in our downtown park after Thanksgiving, even though their special permit expires then. The mayor shrugs and says renewal of the permit is up to the bureaucrats, not him. He promises no riot police and that the campers' exit will be a "smooth transition." Tonight City Council votes on whether to tell the bureaucrats to extend the permit!

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Exit #75 in Gaffney had the lowest prices on I-85 or the entire trip for that matter.

That is true all the way to Pennsylvania, Stephanie.

The best place I have found in the Atlanta area is at a Kroger on Canton Highway just before Canton. One of my daughters lived near there and I always played it so I could fill up there. Saved as much as 30 cents per there using my Kroger Plus card which gave me an extra 10 cents off.

Danube of Thought

Democrat pollster Doug Schoen:

"Voters are favorable to the Tea Party movement by a narrow plurality (42-39 percent) while they have an unfavorable impression of the Occupy Wall Street movement (43-35 percent).

"And while one-third (32 percent) of likely voters are supporters of the Tea Party movement, they oppose OWS by a narrow (33 percent) plurality…

"With only 9 percent of all voters saying that the OWS protests are helping President Obama’s chances of re-election — while 30 percent say they are hurting his chances — Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the OWS movement.

"And this error may cost them the 2012 election."


but wine and beer are one of the greatest gifts God has made to the world.

Are one? Are among. Clearly, I have enjoyed at least one of those gifts this evening...


AB--Wm Penzey Sr was the founder of Spice House. Both ops must be run by different parts of the same family.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I was impressed as usual with Romney tonight for the hour on Hannity. I love the way he listens so intently. I first noticed this in his town hall meetings. It is so refreshing over Obama and so many of his spokespeople who won't shut up and listen to the full question, always anticipating they know were it is going.

I'm sure someone here will pick the appearance apart and come up with something "conservatives" shouldn't like.

I thought his remarks on abortion were particularly good. He admitted he'd been pro-choice until the day in his governorship when he actually had to sign a piece of pro-choice legislation and realized that he just couldn't do it and he has been avidly pro-life since. He mentioned that George Bush and Reagan had related similar experiences.


Porch: I am savoring one of two Brandy Manhattans this evening (Brandy and Red Vermouth are both wine products, someone on this thread assured me many moons ago and said it was "all good") and so I completely agree with you (and those Monks or whomever, created this stuff).


Having lived thru that transition on choice Sara, i can say that no one around here believes it. He was never pro-choice. He lied to get elected.


There has been quite a bit of movement in the OWS vs. Tea Party numbers in the last 3 weeks, all in the Tea Party's favor. A pleasure to observe.


Yes, AB--The last of it
"In 1957, Ruth and Bill Penzey, Sr., started a coffee and spice business in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Their son, Bill Penzey, joined the business when he was ten, working in the family store. Later on, the Penzeys narrowed their business to focus solely on herbs and spices, calling it the Spice House. While definitions vary, generally speaking, a spice is a root or seed, and an herb is a leaf.

In 1986, the younger Penzey spun off the mail-order aspect of the company as Penzeys Spice House, Ltd."



Hell yes, centralcal. Brandy, vermouth, sherry, port, grappa, all the wine products - I'm there. God bless the monks, for so many reasons.


JMH: My wonderful son in law, the hunter, and a great cook too, will love your holiday feast idea! Plus he and his wife (my daughter) love, love, love the beach.

Sadly, I may have to miss that holiday feast - ha ha.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Another score for another Barbara's recipe. To hell with tradition. I'm going to try it.

Will report Friday if not sooner.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Ugh! You socialize and accept their food one day and then pepper spray them the next day, what's up with that?

DESKTOP VIEW Interview with a pepper-sprayed UC Davis student

By Xeni Jardin at 1:58 am Sunday, Nov 20

Photo:Brian Nguyen/The Aggie.

22-year-old UC Davis student W. (name withheld by request) was one of the students pepper-sprayed at point-blank range Friday by Lt. John Pike while seated on the ground, arms linked and silent.

W. tells Boing Boing that Pike sprayed them at close range with military-grade pepper spray, in a punitive manner. Pike knew the students by name from Thursday night when they "occupied" a campus plaza. The students offered Pike food and coffee and chatted with him and other officers while setting up tents. On Friday, UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi told students they had to remove their #OWS tents for unspecified "health and safety" reasons.

"Move or we're going to shoot you," Pike is reported to have yelled at one student right before delivering pepper spray. Then, turning to his fellow officers and brandishing the can in the air, "Don't worry, I'm going to spray these kids down."

then the effects:

W: I'd pulled my beanie hat over my eyes, to protect my eyes. I received a lot of pepper spray in my throat. I vomited twice, right away, then spent the next hour or two dry heaving. Someone said they saw him spray down my throat intentionally, but I was so freaked out, and I was blinded by my hat, so I can't verify. I did get a large quantity of pepper spray in my lungs.

Another girl near me who has asthma had an attack triggered by the pepper spray, and she was taken to the hospital.

He used military grade pepper spray on us. It's supposed to be used at a minimum of 15 feet. But he sprayed us at point blank range. Another student, 20 years old, who was sprayed and then arrested—instead of receiving medical care for the pepper spray exposure, he was made to wait in the back of a police car. His hands were sprayed, and he had intense burning in his hands throughout the evening while he was being held. He asked a police officer what they could do to stop it, and they refused to give any advice.

Read more here


Go Jim! (A)Barbara certainly has me convinced. Her description is just mouth watering, isn't it.



Over at YouTooCongress I see you have put up a post announcing your return from another "great NRO cruise."

I see you have titled your post "Home again, home again, jiggedly jig"

"Jiggedly jig?"

I thought it was "Jiggity Jig."

"Tap tap, tappity tap" (Thats the sound of me Googling "Jiggity Jig")

It is "Jiggity Jig."

!07,000 Goggle responses say "Jigity Jig", and not a single one says "Jiggedly Jig." Mother Goose will be pissed.

So my question Jiggedly Jane, aside from the crotchless thongs and all the rest, is what the heck were they putting in your and Caro's "Jiggers" (a bartending tool used to measure liquor) on that NRO cruise?

Spit it out Jane. The "Jig" is up.

BTW, YouToo won't take my comments, which might be a good thing:)

Melinda Romanoff


How is a non-professional protester supposed to know whether a capsaicin spray is military grade or not. or are they taught to just say that, given the chance?

Oh, noes. They wouldn't lie, would they?

Enough. These are the pros of the protest game. Wake up. The cops know it too.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Billed as the original Redneck wine glass:


Any of you jazz aficionados know if the Coleman Hawkins album Night Hawk on CD has the same tracks as the LP?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

OOps, forgot the link.

Not cheap. $25.50 for 2 on sale at Amazon


Captain Hate, (and all B-Ball fans)

Sitting in a China Hotel watching the Maui Invitational Basketball Tourney and the play by play announcers are Chinese. Thought it interesting that in one of the China papers a few days ago they had a big glossy 2 page story on China's version of the NBA and that this NBA strike and lost season was going to be great for increasing interest in the China B-Ball League. It also highlighted Stars from the West who have signed on to play this season for various Chinese franchises.

You have to hand it to the Chinese business guys. When opportunity knocks they sure try to take advantage and promote their product. Last nights beers for the cab ride in were again TsingTao's with the NBA logo on the bottles neck.

A Jiggedly Jug:)

(Another) Barbara

Another score for another Barbara's recipe. To hell with tradition. I'm going to try it.

Thank you for the honor, Jim. You, JiB and rse are certain to be mentioned in my will.

And pace, Alton Brown, my better, but a turkey that's been properly brined is *never* dry, whether he's stuffed or not stuffed before baking. My family likes the stuffing baked inside and that's the way we always do it. You don't have to cook it much longer. In 55 years of being in charge of the Thanksgiving turkey and (internal) stuffing, I've had not even one casualty.

I've tasted brines with spices and brines without spices and the "with" is better, trust me. Alton Brown may have a TV program but I'm neither bald nor aloof. I think we're almost even.


Niters. I suppose we;ll all be dreaming of turkey.


"Oh and Ed Ames was there - who except for the tomahawk on Johnny Carson was before my time. He was a cruiser"

What the Heck? Ed Ames? "Mingo" Ed Ames?

Last week we get shots of Caro with a 100 foot tall naked Indian and now we find out 'crotchless panty Jane is hanging out with "cruiser" Mingo of crotchless axe fame.

I wanted you gals to Fess Parker, errr fess up, but now 'm beginning to think that what goes on on NRO cruise should stay on NRO cruise.

Dave (in MA)

peter, it seems to be the same.

Captain Hate

daddy, there's little doubt in my mind that, thanks to the idiocy of David Stern, the NBA and basketball in this country will suffer in comparison to the rest of the world. The trend was already unfavorable as Al McGuire so presciently stated many years ago; but this will accelerate it.

Speaking of hoops, I'm expecting big things from your Holes this season. In fact I was thinking a few minutes ago that when Roy left Kansas for Chapel Hole and Bill Self replaced him, that was a rare win/win for both schools. Roy, for whatever reason, was able to finally get over the hump which he hadn't been able to do in Kansas; while Self was able to do the same in Lawrence that he'd been incapable of at Illinois. Btw I'm fairly confident of how my Terps will do under their new coach Mark Turgeon.

JM Hanes

We used to spend Thanksgiving on the Cape with my Great Aunt, and what I remember most is how many different things you could get on one plate: turkey and stuffing, then white potatoes, sweet potatoes, winter squash and turnips, creamed onions, rice croquettes, cranberry sauce, bread & butter pickles sliced tissue-paper thin (by hand!). I think there were supposed to be some green vegetables buried in there too, but who could tell if you skipped them?

My father always carved, of course, and I don't know if it was New England protocol or family tradition, but the eldest got first pick of the bird, the rest of us following one by one, in descending order. As the second youngest, I just had to sit there, thinking about how big the table was, with plates going back and forth in every direction, desperately hoping that no one would want my favorite piece -- which was always long gone by the time my turn finally rolled around, alas. My father would raise his eyebrows at my sulky little face, and then suddenly discover an outside piece of breast meat, with all the skin still on it! It was magic! And it worked for years, before I was old enough to figure it out.

Then on to the pies! Pumpkin pie, and Mince pie with hard sauce (which the children had been tasked with beating till their arms fell off), and Apple pie served with thick sharp cheddar, not ice cream. My Great Aunt, beaming, would unfailingly exclaim, "Apple pie without the cheese, is like a kiss without the squeeze!" to the great amusement of the younger generation, who tried to picture her kissing someone, and couldn't.

After dinner, I always managed to beat everyone else to the corner of a down filled couch in the living room, by the fire, where I promptly fell asleep. My father probably had something to do with that too.



Thanks for posting that Ted Stevens story at PJ Tattler.

It makes me think of that famous old Roman comment "Who watches the Watchman?"

Trial Judge Emmet Sullivan ordered the investigation "saying at the time that he'd never seen such misconduct in 25 years on the bench."

If no criminal charges of any kind are handed down to those Federal Prosecutors, who admitted that they intentionally withheld evidence that could help exonerate the very citizen they were prosecuting, then the answer to the old Watchman question is obvious: Nobody is Watching the Watchman---except of course other corrupt Prosecutors who now know what they can get away with.

A sad day for Justice if you ask me.


It's already been linked, but I finally got a chance to read the WSJ editorial.

If President Obama is not willing to seize the moral high ground and step aside, then the two Democratic leaders in Congress, Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, must urge the president not to seek re-election—for the good of the party and most of all for the good of the country. And they must present the only clear alternative—Hillary Clinton.

Wow. Delusional, especially for insider democrats (and more so for pollsters), but wow.

1. Any sort of steping aside by Obama would be met with a boycott of the black vote, probably for a long time. I can't quite figure out the math that propels the Dems to a win without it.

2. Hillary is "popular" because Obama appointed a bunch of area czars that whittled down her portfolio. She travels and is generally out of the spotlight. I'm sure her negatives would zoom back up when people get another look.

3. As a member of his administration she shares the blame for the disaster of the administration. Overcharged buttons and uncorking the champaign when the Obama Administration pitched aside Mubarak doesn't seem like a record of achievement. How many have been detweeted this week-over 30?

4. Since economic issues will be at the fore, Clinton's foundation will be an issue, (and although I can't find a link) with the work around State did by pouring money into Clinton's foundation because the financial infrastructure in Haiti was wiped out. I'm sure, of the hundreds of millions, a few twentys made their way into Clinton's pocket (and other places).


JM Hanes-

That's a sweet story.

Danube of Thought

"but wine and beer are one of the greatest gifts God has made to the world."

But His single greatest is whichever single-malt Scotch most tickles the tippler's fancy. And I say that being not unmindful of Stoli and Grey Goose.


there's little doubt in my mind that, thanks to the idiocy of David Stern, the NBA and basketball in this country will suffer in comparison to the rest of the world.

Well, I beg to differ. I think David Stern is doing excellent work just about now.

Of course, my wish from Santa is for no NBA until 2012. At least. So I might be a little biased.



Thank you for sharing that story. It made me think back to all the wonderful Thanksgivings that I have been so fortunate to enjoy.


Haven't caught much Ball yet this year Captain so I have no idea of how your Terp's look.

At home (Alaska) it's still a media love affair with Duke and Coach K. They're on as much as the SeaHawks. Bleech!

I'm definitely pumped about the talent we've got on our team so once again it's the old question of can Roy get the max out of them. Am actually looking forward to us against Dook in Cameron, and having the whole thing announced not by Dick Vitale, but by hyperventilating Chinese guys:)

Good luck in the Season.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

JMH: I was always the eldest child as the eldest grandchild in the family, so your family rule would have been fine with me. What I hated was the interminable wait to get seated and actually eat. First, we stood ramrod straight behind our chairs while grace was said, then we had to wait for the gentleman host to seat the hostess at one end of the table and then make his way to the other end. I was sure the men deliberately moved at a snail's pace just to frustrate the kids. Then we had to wait while the host made a big production of sharpening the carving knife with all the appropriately exaggerated movements necessary to really ham it up. Finally the carving. But wait, still no eating. We had to wait until everyone at the table was served and then the hostess would nod, pick up her fork, take a bite and pronounce that it was "darn good if anyone rides up in a hack and asks ya," and that was our signal to dig in. There were rules during dinner as well. If you were under age 13, you could only take 2 olives and 1 roll, and you weren't supposed to speak unless spoken to.


OFFICERS gathering intelligence on Hezbollah may have compromised the CIA network by meeting informants in a Beirut Pizza Hut.



A glimmer of hope in a senseless world: Proposal to tax Jack Daniel whiskey derailed.

Danube of Thought

I'm starting to re-think the whole Hillary thing. Suppose Obama concludes there's even a chance he might lose in 2012. Suppose she says, "if you'll declare yourself a huge one-term success and step aside, there's a lifetime seat waiting for you on the Supremes?"

Think of it: it's the perfect spot for this fraud. He abhors work, but he won't have to do any--he'll have clerks to do all the research and writing. And he'll constantly be etching his name into the nation's recorded history with 20 or 30 years of permanently recorded opinions.

The mind reels...

Sara (Pal2Pal)

A few days ago, there was a short discussion about driver's licenses. Tonight I was rereading a short piece my Uncle wrote just before he died which included some of his early life's experiences. He mentioned that he got his first driver's license at the age of 12, so that he could start teaching the women of the neighborhood how to drive. He had a booming business because in the late teens and early 1920s, the husbands didn't want their wives to drive, but if they insisted, they didn't want them out with an older male teacher. I guess a 12 year old was considered safe.

Anyway, it made me laugh as I read it again.


"And he'll constantly be etching his name into the nation's recorded history with 20 or 30 years of permanently recorded opinions.

The mind reels..."

Jigger's the imagination!

Thanks goodness its martini time over here. Bye.

Danube of Thought

JMH, I actually teared up a bit at that charming account.

I always prevail on my eldest niece (now over fifty) to re-tell how her grandfather--my dad--taught her to make turkey gravy. She does it replete with the tongue-clucking, the arched eyebrow and the tut-tutting that coaxed her away from each error, however slight. The water, the flour, the grease, the spices. the giblets--everything had to be added at just the right moment, in just the right measure, lest there be the slightest hint of disapproval. And the constant tending and stirring...

So we all insist now that she make it every year, with accompanying narration.

Dave (in MA)

John Batchelor just closed out tonight's show with this story about yet another case of BOzo crony capitalism.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I found this article amazing for two reasons, the first, the content itself, second, written by someone who actually knew Barack Obama at ... Columbia.

Obama's College Classmate Speaks Out

He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

Barack Hussein Obama was my college classmate
( Columbia University , class of ’83).

He is a devout Muslim, do not be fooled.
Look at his Czars…anti-business..anti-American.
As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussein Obama is
following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University .

They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system
with government spending and entitlement demands.
Add up the clues below. Taken individually they’re alarming.
Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn
the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority
that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government.

Dave (in MA)

Snopes confirms that the piece was actually written by a classmate of Obama's, but claims that they didn't know each other.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Piglets are cute as the dickens and this woman's joke was sick, but this sentence sounds alittle harsh to me, even so. And what did the guy plan to do with the piglet when it became a full grown pig, probably slaughter it to fill his freezer?

Virginia Woman Faces 50 Years Behind Bars For Decapitating Piglet

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Thanks Dave. If he didn't know him that he doesn't know any more than the rest of us, does he?

I wish I could go in and delete my use of the word amazing.



He'd have to get through the Senate which looks to be turning more GOP by the day. I don't see him making that sort of deal because he'd have to trust Hillary! Yike!

Ralph L

NC fuel tax: $.35
GA, SC: ~$.16
VA: $.21

but the eldest got first pick of the bird
My grandmother said her grandmother would cut off the heart of a watermelon slice and pass the rest to a grandchild.


"It is that "this is me" campus we all want for our kids and not a stretch. I think the but what if is adding to the stress."

I totally understand what you're going through. Our oldest son surprised us his senior year in high school with an inexplicable interest in ND. Until that point, he had displayed little interest in any school but Texas A&M (my husband's seven brothers and sisters and their children are all Aggies), so I was dumbfounded when the little darlin' said, "Look Mom, look what came in the mail." It was ND's early admission acceptance letter.

Well, that jiggered *snicker* everything. Particularly since the letter came a few days before my husband's family Christmas party. Not to mention a heightened anxiety over affordability. Then we visited the campus in January and fell in love with a beautiful school, and somehow we knew that it would work out. It felt right.

And it did. But a few years later when son #2 applied for early admission, we realized the blessings of son #1's surprise. Son #2 wanted so badly to join his brother at ND. And ND made it very clear that it made no difference that his brother was a Domer. And we made it very clear that Holy Cross was not an option. He would not Rudy his way into ND. So son #2 was not happy about considering other good engineering schools. Angst to the nth degree for all.

Christmas was good that year. :) Mucho joy. Big difference though in our responses to son#1's and son#2's good news. The bigger the angst, the bigger the joy. But it's harder to see the bigger picture. Son #2 would still be the aerospace engineer he is today, no matter where he had gone. It's his passion. Maybe more so than son#1 who is also an aerospace engineer.

I'm rambling. RSE, as you can see, I feel your pain. I hope your daughter's injury turns out to be better than expected. And I hope it proves to be a blessing in disguise, a distraction from the angst.

BTW, has she considered ND? *grin* I have "connections." *wicked grin*



I'm hiring you as my editor.

Dot, A seat on the SC is lacking in the requisite adoration for Bambi.

Sara (Pal2Pal)


For some reason, I cannot get PDF files to open, and all the latest info on gas taxes for Calif. seem to be in PDF files. The best I could do is this WIKI chart dated 2009, but I don't think any tax in Calif. has gone down, so if this figure is out of date, it is probably out on the low side.

California Gas tax = 64.5 cents per gal.

Los Angeles Times
22 Nov 2011

In California, the average price of a gallon of regular gasoline fell 5.4 cents over the last week to $3.786, the Energy Department said Monday. That was 61.5 cents a gallon higher than the year-earlier price. It was also 39.1 cents above the old record for this week of $3.395 a gallon, set in 2007.
Sara (Pal2Pal)


Shocker: Chicks Don’t Dig Camping Out With a Bunch of Smelly Losers

Estimates of women participating in tea party activities - 55%

In the famous words of Telly Salvalas:
"Who loves ya baby?"


US officials reported that the Hezbollah terror group recently captured a CIA spy ring. The US fears the spies will be killed by the Islamic group.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Poll: 'Occupy' movement fails to capture Americans' interest

The poll finds that 56% of Americans surveyed are neither supporters nor opponents and 59% say they don't know enough to have an opinion about the movement's goals.

The survey, however, does show an increase from 20% to 31% in disapproval of the way the protests are being conducted.


Lovely account, jmh.


It's the 48th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination. I bet everyone over the age of 54 remembers where they were.


From reclaim UC

Friday, October 28, 2011
March Against the Police State: Saturday, 8pm

This Saturday evening, nearly a year after the murderous pig Johannes Mehserle was sentenced with a slap on the wrist and just days after police beat, gassed, shot, kidnapped and hospitalized our fellow occupiers, we are calling for a march against the police state.


At first I thought him simply delusional, but
Goodman Professor Brown is actually dangerous,
Ayers wasn't tenured at the time of his incitements



His request is disturbing in light of this precedent;

In 1945 Castro entered law school at the University of Havana, where student activism, violence, and gang fights were common occurrences. Protected by its autonomy, the university was a sanctuary for political agitators. Castro soon joined the activists and associated with one of the gangs, the Unión Insurreccional Revolucionaria

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/fidel-castro#ixzz1eRGgXvKt


Right you are, Jane. To this day, I still don't understand how Jackie was able to plan such a magnificent funeral so fast.

And who can ever forget the first televised live murder: the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald, a nut and communist. Today, LHO would probably be a member of ACORN and the Obama administration.


What is that line about history rhyming;

RAF founder Ulrike Meinhof had a long history in the Communist Party. Holger Meins had studied film and was a veteran of the Berlin revolt; his short feature How To Produce A Molotov Cocktail had been seen by huge audiences. Jan Carl Raspe had lived at the Kommune 2; Horst Mahler had been an established lawyer, but was also at the center of the anti-Springer revolt from the beginning. From their own personal experiences and assessments of the socio-economic situation they soon became more specifically influenced by Leninism and Maoism, calling themselves 'Marxist-Leninist' though they effectively added to or updated this ideological tradition. A contemporaneous critique of the Red Army Faction's view of the state, published in a pirate edition of Le Monde Diplomatique, ascribed to it 'state-fetishism' – an ideologically obsessive misreading of bourgeois dynamics and the nature and role of the state in post-WWII societies, including West Germany.[12]

Had Oswald succeeded in killing General Walker, what would have been the reaction,

Captain Hate

I bet everyone over the age of 54 remembers where they were.

Riding home from high school. It was on a Friday, no?

It's the sun wot dunnit.

The other shoe has dropped on ClimateGate. See L!ink U!nder N!ame.


Wow, Kim, it's rare when you see them 'fixing
the intelligence,' right before your eyes,
it's almost as if they conjured up the Gelbspan narrative, as an excuse for their
own manipulations.


So this Nathan Brown is an untenured assistant professor of English. Shouldn't he be spending a bit more time on his "research"? My guess is he'll be out of a job in a few years.

And what is it with this "Occupy" thing of the crowd repeating each phrase of the speaker? Brown: "I'd like to speak to Chancellor Katehi..." Crowd: "I'd like to speak to Chancellor Katehi..." and so on. Very weird.

Manuel Transmission

Jane, a pal of ours was celebrating her 5th(?) B-day and was really bummed that the party flopped. So, in that case 53 works.


Yes, Jane, it does bring back vivid memories. For days my whole family stayed glued to our black and white television set - even taking our meals in front of it. Afraid almost to stop watching lest some other shocking event occur if we walked away for awhile. As peter said above, we witnessed a murder take place, live, before our stunned eyes.


I really believe this UC Davis incident was a set up. Students at UC have been indoctrinated by left wing loons and there's an unhealthy obsession at all UC institutions blaming privatization and police brutality for the rising costs of tuition. From December, 2009

Behind every fee increase, a line of riot cops . . . The privatization of the UC system and the impoverishment of student life, the UC administration’s conscious choice to shift its burden of debt onto the backs of its students -- these can be maintained only by way of police batons, tasers, barricades and pepper spray.


Sara (Pal2Pal)

It's the 48th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination. I bet everyone over the age of 54 remembers where they were.

Peter: Jackie had plenty of help from the military to the church and everyone in between. Plus the entire Kennedy political machine.

CH: It was a Tuesday.

Jane: I was coming down the steps of my dorm and a kid was walking by with a transistor to his ear. He looked up when he nearly walked into me and said, "The President's been shot." My first reaction was that I thought he was just being a smart alec. By the time I walked the block to the Student Union, kids were pouring out of every building, most of them crying, and the Union was packed, everyone trying to get a look at the one small TV.

Jim Ryan

Kim, looks like Foia had to pass it so we could find out what's in it.

Jack is Back!


My mother graduated from St. Mary's back in the day when it was the Women's college for the boys at ND. Its still a women's college even though ND has gone co-ed. But you're absolutely right about the campus - it is stunning. Great aerospace engineering program as you can attest to.

Captain Hate

According to wiki it was a Friday; the reason I remember it was I was attending DeMatha high school in Hyattsville, which had half days on fridays, and was in a car returning to Laurel when the radio broadcast the news, which in those days was extremely delayed and incomplete compared to now.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Your Tax Dollars at Work… LA Mayor Gives Occupy LA 10,000 Square Feet of Office Space & Farmland for $1-a-Year

I propose that we start an Occupy JOM group and get some mayor to give us a an island farmland for a dollar a year.


It was a tragic and probably preventable act,
which is why Stone belongs in the deeper levels of the Underworld



'The mind is a terrible thing,' which seems the watchword of this study, that even Mediaite has to pile onto;



Ah, you know the irony burns, how they somehow leave out the fellow stroking the cat;


Ralph L

glued to our black and white television set
We kids were annoyed there was nothing on but talking heads. I'd just turned 3.
My parents had heard him speak at DAR Con. Hall on Oct. 22, and my mother had said, "It would be so easy for someone to shoot him."


The Wisconsin senate recalls go to court. This time Republicans are suing to have the new district maps used.

I was in Texas 48 years ago, but don't remember the JFK assassination (I was 4).

Danube of Thought

Thanks for that link re Jack Daniel's, daddy. I saw the guy behind the tax proposal on TV and he really annoyed the hell out of me--a genuine rent-seeker.

Melinda Romanoff


Thank you for that Link! Under! Name! I have passed it on to relevant, noise-making individuals.

Such fun to come from this development.


I was in law school and like many who then got their news exclusively from the NYT and alphabets I was sure Texas conservatives were behind the assassination.

Jack is Back!

OWS keeps referencing Tahir Square but I don't see any tents or encampments in Cairo. And everytime there is a little bit of Tahir Square, like the use of pepper spray, they seem to want to forget that convenient analogy.

Rocco and I are on the same wave here: Its all a setup. Brown would love to see firearms deployed AND used. He is a dangerous Ayers acolyte and without tenure should be fired immediately of inciting violence.

Either that or buy him a one-way ticket to Cairo or Damascus where his organizational skills are at a premium.


over the age of 54 remembers where they were

53 and remember it well. My father, sister and I were at my grandparent's house and we watched the footage of President and Mrs. Kennedy getting off the airplane at Lovefield. My grandfather listened to the radio every during the noon hour and as soon as the footage went back to regular programming, he turned off the tv and turned on the radio. We were sitting at the table when they broke in saying the President had been shot. My father ran to the tv and turned it back on. I don't really remember anything more until the day of the funeral and remember crying, not because the president was dead, but because their father was dead. I was a daddy's girl.

My father didn't vote for him, he voted republican. But he was sad that the president had been killed. And worried about an LBJ presidency. Good instincts, no?


I was born years later, but I remember what my mother recalls how it was received in Cuba,
total shock



Sue, the foods you ate as a child on special feast days take on a significance above and beyond their taste for almost everyone.

That is so true. I use my grandmother's gravy boat (ugliest thing I've ever seen) simply because I hope it will make my giblet gravy as delicious as hers was. Just the smell of Thanksgiving dinner takes me back and I can hear my grandfather telling us it was time to "wash up" which meant go wash your hands and let's eat, by darn!


I was in the 6th grade and our classroom had a door that went directly into the principal's office. She came running into our classroom yelling: "The president's been shot, the president's been shot, should I tell the students."



Daddy,yes it was that Ed Ames. It was a fluke that I sat next to him at the Mark S table. His wife was ill and in the cabin so there was an empty seat.

If only I had known I would have done a little research. He looks and sounds just like this YouTube in conversation and is a big conservative and Tea Partier living in Beverly Hills.

Come to find out he has lived in Deer Valley, our local posh ski area and his first ski instructor was Stein Erikson, in Squaw Valley.

Melinda Romanoff

Ah, caro, he of the Grand Christi.


I remember Stein Erikson - altho probably just the name.


Mingoooooooooo, errr CayyyyRoooooooooo.



I'm 55 but I have no memory whatsoever of the Kennedy assassination.

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