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November 21, 2011

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Captain Hate

I guess, C; although I don't want to be too harsh because it *is* maryrose's brother. Although I'm interested if that slipknot has stayed intact...

Janet

Don't you hate it when they sell Christmas before Thanksgiving is over?

One thing though, it is nice to have some Christmas stuff available for pkgs that are gonna be mailed early. So it's not all a negative....

(Another) Barbara

Thanks for the heads up on The Spice House website, Clarice. I've linked it and will do a test order soon. I'm assuming you've used their products and like them.

Benjamin Franklin

I say that's a distinction without a difference..

http://zenhuber.blogspot.com/


"A comment on the budget impasse: I used to maintain that the difference between Republicans and Libertarians is that Republicans want someone else to pay for the roads and Libertarians don’t think we need roads. The gap seems to have narrowed to the width of a gnat’s eyelash toward the Libertarian ideal.

When it comes to the defense budget, though, war spending is like Jell-o: there’s always room for it. Heck, war’s our biggest job creator! And on that note, please give your consideration to the following public service preview:"

Rocco

See the headline at Drudge, Trump might still run. I still think Hillary's going to run and Trump will run as an Independent guaranteeing a win for his friend Hillary.

boris

Wrt econ prof ... Snopes claims the story is ledgend and 15 years old.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Always surprises on the day like the year my brother announced he had remarried much to the surprise of his ex-wife.

That's pretty bad. Yikes!

The worst Thanksgiving I experienced was in 1963, just 2 days after the JFK assassination. The table consisted of 2 couples, an older widowed relative of the host, and 3 college kids - Me, a freshman at MSU, the son, a freshman at Oberlin, and daughter, a junior at Bucknell, of the host couple. They lived in Bloomfield Hills, a suburb of Detroit.

Of course, for those of us experiencing a national tragedy for the first time, one that rocked our 1950s world of safety and turned it upside down, we wanted to talk about it and get some "adult" input on how to process it and no one was bringing the subject up. Until ... the daughter picked up the turkey leg and heaved it at her father and nearly knocking him out of his chair, and called all the adults "ignorant, cold-hearted bastards." The sound of silence at the dinner table was deafening. I had never seen anyone talk to an adult that way, so I was sure God was going to strike someone dead.

Benjamin Franklin

'OK, my straight beats your pair. Double or nothin? What the Hell?'

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/11/21/mf_global_trustee_says_12b_or_more_missing/

WASHINGTON—The court-appointed trustee overseeing MF Global's bankruptcy says up to $1.2 billion is missing from customer accounts, double what the firm had reported to regulators last month..


Gmax

Rep Dale Kildee DEMOCRAT, accused of sexually abusing his male second cousin over a 5 year period.

Culture of corruption?

Will the last Democrat out of the caucus please get the lights?

Captain Hate

Btw where is TK? It's not like Thanksgiving week without him....

narciso

Ah, that was what Sutton/Dillinger was supposed to prevent, no, rhetorical question

raven

"Newt Gingrich was, for practical if not legal purposes, a lobbyist for the drug companies during the 2003 debate over the creation of a Nedicare drug benefit."

Is that a problem worse than the problem of Mitt Romney? I don't think so. I don't care about his lobbying or his private life. He's the most capable candidate remaining and he's a fighter.

Clarice

AB I haven't used their stuff, but like the company you used,Penseys, they started out in Milwaukee. How bad can that be? And they have some Milwaukee mixes..I have used Pensey and found it good, but no better than spices from other decent sellers .

They seem to carry a full range of spices.

Gmax

Did you see what happens when the ruling party presides over a floundering economy and high unemployment? Look no further than Spain for your preview of next year. Socialists slaughtered, and Conservative Party does not need a single vote of them to pass anything of their choosing. Sucks to be a socialist, dont it!

Danube of Thought

"I still think Hillary's going to run and Trump will run as an Independent guaranteeing a win for his friend Hillary."

Hillary would win--handily--regardless of whether Trump runs. She won't run. Neither will the short-fingered vulgarian, who is simply feeling the need to get back into the limelight again. Politically he is pretty much a moron, but he does seem to understand how badly Obama harms the country, and I think he fully realizes that he would have zero chance.

Gmax

It is past time to get on the ballot in a number of states, and way past time to have an organization capable of running a national campaign and fundraising. Neither of them nor Ron Paul will run.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Barbara: Topped with a crusty layer of pecans sounds like perfection and much better than marshmallows. I want to remember this one.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

The first year we were married I thought I'd give my wife a helping hand and cook the turkey for her. I thought she'd be surprised and she sure was when she found out I'd neglected to thaw it out first!

LOL.

My first attempt at Thanksgiving dinner as a new bride, I roasted the turkey upside down. No one noticed except my Mom. As we were taking it out of the roaster and onto the serving platter she flipped it over and winked, but she never ratted me out.

Jack is Back!

First of all, regarding Christmas: It really doesn't even start until next Sunday, the 1st day of Advent.

In the JiB household Christmas is about the birth of Jesus Christ and not Walmart or Amazon or Black Friday. What a joke.

Yes, it is fun and celebratory and a great warm and visual experience as well as the nostalgia of "A Wonderful Life" but lets remember what is all about. If we can't, then lets change it to Happy Ching-ca-ching.

Benjamin Franklin

Labor has to choose 'Occupy' or the DNC. That's ok. Republicans have to choose between the Tea Party, and..........the Tea Party.

http://smirkingchimp.com/

The Occupy Movement couldn't have come along at a worse time, from the viewpoint of the Democrats. Election season is just getting started and Occupy has thrown a giant wrench into the political machinery. Some labor leaders too are sensing “politics as usual” shifting under their feet; the “get out the vote” for the Democrats may elicit blank stares from the rank and file.

Occupy has the potential to create earthquakes within the labor movement and labor’s relationship to the Democrats, if it approaches the subject intelligently. This seismic shift could permanently change politics in the United States, much for the better.

Benjamin Franklin

'The Waste Makers" Vance Packard-dig it...

ttp://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/


[I]t's not primarily the details that Packard got right, but the broad strokes. He understood what kind of country we were building. He understood, fundamentally, that growth had become its own religion. Even ten years before economists had doubted that the size of the U.S. economy would grow much larger-- FDR had said we had more factories than we'd ever need. But in the wake of World War II, the boom to end all booms (at least until China's) was leaving us with a new theology: "Out of all the anxieties created by the desire to make the economy hum at ever higher levels has come a clamor for 'growth.' Economic thinkers of many stripes have joined in the call. Certainly this is the first time in history that the felt need for growth has been so self-consciously vocalized." A brief recession in the late 1950s had made it clear that we had a new master. "At a press conference, President Eisenhower was asked what the people should do to make the recession recede. Here is the dialogue that followed:

A- Buy

Q- What?

A- Anything

Benjamin Franklin

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/

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centralcal

Captain, I think I recall TK saying he had some work or projects coming up this week and that he would be scarce. Of course, my memory may be faulty.

Benjamin Franklin

Re; Packard and the theology of 'Growth'

I use to laugh at my employer who had a Giant market share. They actually gave us a growth objective one year which, if accomplished, would have meant we had 120 percent of the Market. Bean counters......

Captain Hate

Thanks cc; I'll be getting pretty busy after Thanksgiving my own self. Which is very good news overall but I'll be a bit scarce here..

Extraneus

Alton Brown says that stuffing is evil. It prolongs the cooking, drying out the turkey. He's on board with dressing, but not stuffing. For tender and juicy, the idea is to minimize the time the turkey is in the oven.

Speaking of Mr. Brown, his brining mixture has no spices: 1/2 gallon hot tap water, 1 lb Kosher salt, 2/3 cup sugar, 8 lbs of ice and 16 cups of vegetable broth. 12 to 14 hrs.

As for the roasting, he recommends a loose mixture of chopped onion, celery and carrot with some fresh herbs (rosemary, sage and thyme) in the cavity . Loose, though; otherwise, it's just as evil as stuffing.

Get some kids to slather butter on the outside of the bird, then roast at 500F for half an hour until the skin is brown, before a heavy-duty aluminum foil breastplate is placed on top and go to 350F for the rest of the way until 161F is reached in the breast. (I've found that 165F is better, but he's the maestro, so take that for what it's worth.)

I've done this to great effect for years, even on a couple of Christmas gooses.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

As a child, we always went to my Great Uncle's home for Thanksgiving. It was a huge gathering with a table of 12 adults and 4 kid tables using card tables. For some reason, the tradition was to have the child who turned 12 that year say grace. These were teetotalers and very uptight. Perfect deportment from children was expected and adhered to by all of us, until it was the year for my younger cousin Joe's turn. Everyone bowed their heads and he piped out, "Fort Pitt, that's it! Amen" For those unfamiliar, Fort Pitt was a popular beer in Pittsburgh and that was their slogan. Poor Joe got banished to the kitchen table in another room to eat alone.

Gmax

Dallas Cowboys are in first place in the NFC East! Joining the Dallas Mavericks, NBA champs and the Texas Rangers American League champs. I see a pattern developing here...

Danube of Thought

Guess I'll have to say it: once strike away, not once but twice...

Jane

I just returned from this famous Thanksgiving location, where dinner was turkey, stuffing, squash, mash potatoes, etc.

I'm full as a tick because while you guys were talking about it, I was doing it.

Cecil Turner

If not -- what are the JOM commentariat thoughts? Does Frum have a point about the alternate reality weaved by Fox News and talk show hosts? Are we seeing the formation of the same sort of "cocoon" among righties that the NYT and related media spins around the left?

Mega dittoes, man! Do other papers follow Fox's lead in their cocoon, a la the alternate reality established in the "paper of record" and regurgitated ad nauseam by their sycophants? And why should Frum, a competitor whose professional and financial interests lie in supporting the NYTimes conventionalism, be considered a "conservative" in this perspective?

Reading his contentions, he's fairly obviously not what I consider conservative. Just as Mitt Romney's health care history makes me doubt his suitability for president, Frum's apparently in love with the idea of greater government involvement in this and other programs. Nowhere does he suggest how we should pay for it. He claims the GOP is "the party most in need of a course correction" and that President Obama "is a figure of imposing intellect and dignity." Hey, can I disagree here? Or does that make me brainwashed by Rush and Fox? His theory would be the latter, so I guess there's nothing to discuss.

centralcal

How lucky for you Jane! Looks like a wonderful place to stuff yourself. Smart aleck.

Benjamin Franklin

"These were teetotalers and very uptight. "

One Christmas my patenal Grandfather took the Greyhound to Santa Barbara, we picked him up. Cold night (for SB) Anyhew, he ushers himself in the front door, and drops his suitcase. My Mom asks him
'Dad did you want a glass of wine?" He's Church of Christ, so he says
"coff, coff. Well I do have this congestion..."

Sara (Pal2Pal)

What a beautiful setting, Jane. Bet their food is good too. Lucky you.

After the kids were gone, we thought it silly to prepare a big dinner at home and started going out. Marriott does a great meal, but the best is one where I took 8 of us out to Pechanga Resort and Casino. They served buffet-style but if you like to mix it up, you can get turkey, ham, prime rib, crab legs, shrimp, etc. Fabulous meal. Better yet, after we ate, I walked over and put a dollar in one of the slots and promptly won $300, enough to pay for the dinner for all of us and give everyone a $20 to go play for themselves.

Benjamin Franklin

Uh oh. What are we going to be treated to now? Some quotes from
Spinal Tap? Is this what substitutes for creativity at JOM?

Captain Hate

Guess I'll have to say it: once strike away, not once but twice...

That almost makes 97 when Jose Mesa blew the save in Florida after fat turd Hargrove had burned through his bullpen easy to take.

Gmax

Frum almost certainly voted for Zero in 2008.

Conservative is not anyway an accurate description of the guy. The kind of "conservative" that the NYT likes and keeps around. Sorta like Jim Jeffords or Arlen Specter were conservatives.

We go back to totally ignoring Frum and the NYT come the crushing victory next November.

Porchlight

canned (for my hubby, he likes the can indents on his cranberry sauce)

Me too, me too! And we like it sliced.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

He claims the GOP is "the party most in need of a course correction" and that President Obama "is a figure of imposing intellect and dignity." Hey, can I disagree here?

He can speak for himself, but my take on BF is that he may agree with the first part regarding the GOP and not the 2nd. I don't think he is too enamored of Obama these days. Just my opinion, of course.

Ignatz

--Conservative is not anyway an accurate description of the guy.--

When you're mushy enough to get canned by the crew at NRO, you're too special for words.

Neo

Show you the money
LUN

Gmax

There of course are two teams in the Series and only one can win, and there were what 28 teams watching the Rangers from the comfort of their living rooms? Two years in a row?

HMMM another pattern.

Ignatz

Cecil was talking about and quoting Frum.

PD

Ben Coes' second book (Coup D'etat) is out. I didn't see any pro-Dunkin, anti-Starbucks dialog in it, which disappointed me.

One thing that struck me was that quality of the scenes in which high-level policy discussions took place in the various administrations (U.S. and India in particular).I couldn't help but think of similar discussions in the Obama administration, as related by Woodward in Obama's Wars. The latter looked directionless and flailing by comparison.

BTW, Coes was campaign manager for Romney's 2002 run for governor.

Neo

Frum is looking at a new position with CNN.
What does anybody expect him to say ?

Aferall, there are important cocktail parties to attend.

Rick Ballard

I'm just surprised that Frum was unable to work "epistemic closure" into his jeremiad. Isn't that the core of the mating song of the Northeastern Nitwit?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Dad did you want a glass of wine?" He's Church of Christ, so he says
"coff, coff. Well I do have this congestion..."

LOL. He was dead before I was born, but my Mother would tell stories of "Old Uncle Joe" who would say, "gots to have me green medicine." In his final years, he lived in the same Great Aunt and Great Uncle's home where liquor was not approved. I think his green medicine cured the "coff coff" syndrome too. Aunt Betty would let him have a couple fingers of green medicine, but only after he read to her from the Bible first.

Cecil Turner

Conservative is not anyway an accurate description of the guy.

But, but, it says "conservative" right there in the opening paragraph.

I don't understand the left's fascination with pretending conservatives must be misled, or stupid, when it's manifestly their fiscal policies that don't add up.

The current supercommittee debacle is an instructive case-in-point. Charged to find spending reductions that amount to about one-tenth of the projected budget increase over the next decade, they simply can't do it. So the Dems proffer tax increases instead. Makes you wonder if anyone in that party can do simple arithmetic. (And if so, where is that guy?)

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Me too, me too! And we like it sliced.

Me three!!!

Gmax

Gasoline prices drop below the magic $3 a gallon mark today in North Texas. Dont remember the last time they were down here. But dont get too excited, as the discount WTI oil has been enjoying against Brent crude is narrowing, and soon enough pipelines will be put in place to deal with the oversupply at Cushing and we Americans will pay what the world is paying, and that is a higher price today.

Gmax

I happen to think that the Democrats signed their own execution orders by sabotaging the ability of the Super Committee to reach even a miniscule reduction in spending. They clearly think this is to their benefit, but hey they thought OWS was to their benefit too and that Obamacare was going to become popular once enacted. In other words, the entire party is acting like Jim Jones jungle dwelling cult...

narciso

Dread Pirate Roberts and Vizzini are their role models.


http://theothermccain.com/2011/11/21/weve-all-gone-crazy/

Benjamin Franklin

Norquist has something akin to a religious fervor with regard to taxes. He's a TeaTax-totoler. Teetotolaers don't have much fun in life, do they?

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/norquist-gop-wont-be-fooled-raising-taxes


"As a Congressional "super committee" tasked with cutting the deficit on the verge of failure, anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist insisted in a series of interviews Monday that it wasn't his fault.

Norquist told CNN's Carol Costello that Republicans were willing to "compromise" with Democrats as long as additional tax revenues were off the table.

At least 279 Republican members of the current Congress have signed Norquist's pledge to never raise taxes.

"So, you sign the pledge as a Republican member of the super committee and you're supposed to negotiate with the other side... How can you possibly effectively negotiate?" Costello asked.

"Of course, you can," Norquist declared. "Democrats want higher taxes, that's off the table and it's been off the table for a year."

"There has been a massive compromise. Republicans, as you know, passed the Paul Ryan legislation, which is a $6-trillion reduction in Obama's $10-trillion increase in the debt. ... The agreement that Reid, Pelosi and the Republicans came to in August was not the $6 trillion that Republicans wanted to save taxpayers, but only two and a half trillion."

"What if the Democrats signed a pledge never, ever to cut entitlements?" Costello pressed. "Would that be a great negotiating tool on the super committee?"

"Well, a number of them have made just that commitment to the trial lawyers, the labor unions and the big-city political machines, promising not to cut spending," Norquist replied.

Appearing on Fox News earlier in the morning, Norquist declared that Democrats wanted the "peasants to send more in so that the king can keep spending as he has become accustom."

"No Republican in Congress has voted for an income tax increase since 1990," he boasted to Fox News host Steve Doocy. "That's a long time for the Republican Party to say, 'We do many things, raising taxes is not one of them.'"

"Republicans are not going to walk into that room again, as we're seeing, and they're not going to be fooled to raise taxes in return for promises of spending restraint."

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Gasoline prices drop below the magic $3 a gallon mark today in North Texas.

Good grief and I had to pay $3.94 last time I gassed up.

Melinda Romanoff

Gmax-

Enbridge declared that they intend to reverse the flow of a pipeline, both relieving the oversupply and lack of storage issues at Cushing, OK AND disrupting the "buy and float" trade put on by the TBTF firms taking advantage of near-free VLOC storage costs (aka Contango ploy).

It's something I've been watching, like the metals/warehouse delivery choke points, courtesy of Goldman and Glencore.

Ignatz

--Teetotolaers don't have much fun in life, do they?--

I have considerably more fun than the large majority of drinkers I know and I get to remember it afterward.

Jack is Back!

Jane,

How I pine for a cold night by a fire place in an old New England road house like that. Lucky gal. Jane rules, again!

BTW, had to cancel my res on the cruise back in August due to a huge scheduling conflict with Mrs. JiB having to go to Belgium leaving me and Frederick baching it. Yes, it was scheduled that close - Euro bureaucrats, lawyers and bankers have that ability. Maybe next year.

Benjamin Franklin

When you suggest a genuinely bold proposal like zeroing out the Department of Education, a Republican wonk immediately imagines the hue and outcry from the Democrats, the teachers unions, and the New York Times. They can’t imagine Republicans withstanding such angry criticism and, they’ll point out, Reagan never followed through on his promise to abolish the Department of Education.
So your bold proposal is immediately dismissed as “unserious,”

Political realities aside, narco, how do you expect to elect YOUR candidate?

Benjamin Franklin

It's something I've been watching,"

I'm quite sure you have, Mel. Tryin' to double down on that income flow?

Holly

"OK I need some advice from anyone who has had a child apply early decision."

rse, are you talking about early admission to college? My sons and my best friend's daughter applied early admission to Notre Dame in the late 90's (all three received offers of admission by Christmas). The only contact from ND was a phone call from a student host inviting the applicant to spend the weekend on campus in January or February. As for coaches, I think the baseball coach contacted both sons in March or so to encourage them to try-out as a walk-on, and the basketball coach called the younger son (walk-on try-outs). It is possible that ND used coaches to inform applicants about their status, but I doubt it. My best friend's daughter worked in admissions her last two years at ND and I think she would have mentioned something like that. I will certainly ask.

Benjamin Franklin

Good grief and I had to pay $3.94 last time I gassed up."

yeah, but you don't live in Texas, so consider that advantage.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I have considerably more fun than the large majority of drinkers I know and I get to remember it afterward.

It wasn't partying and drinking that got me, it was the day after of a pounding headache, queasy stomach, and little sleep that did me in and finally made me realize it wasn't worth it. I'm not a teetotaler, but I rarely drink anymore, except on special occasions and maybe some champagne on New Year's Eve. And, I now find being around drunks odious and to be avoided at all costs.

Porchlight

I've been in mourning for a few months, ever since reading in my Penzey's catalog about the owner's support for the unionists at WI's state capitol and his dissing of Scott Walker

(A)B,

I started shopping at Penzey's back in 1997 when I discovered their store on Grand Ave. in St. Paul. I was a charter subscriber to their One magazine, which was sweet and well-intentioned (community and regional cooking - they gathered recipes from real people whom they featured in the magazine) if not always very interesting, recipe-wise. I say this as a devotee of community cookbooks - but there were literally 20 chicken recipes in every issue.

But it became very apparent quickly that the owners were politically liberal and unafraid to express it in the magazine. Well hell, if I want to read liberal political opinions, I have several hundred venues to choose from - I don't need it in my cooking magazines.

Luckily, the mag folded before I could unsubscribe. But I haven't ordered from the catalog since.

That said, I just used some Penzeys thyme and oregano (bought a long while back) in a lentil dish I'm cooking tonight. I am sad to not be buying from them anymore. But they really ticked me off.

Captain Hate

I have considerably more fun than the large majority of drinkers I know and I get to remember it afterward.

Fun is where you find it. I went cold turkey for about 8 years when my marriage was in danger of falling apart and I was being a shittier father than my standards would allow. I had fun just fine at parties.

I drink beer and wine socially now and enjoy it a great deal. I decidedly don't get hammered any more because that is just stupid imo.

Jack is Back!

Sara,

You live in California, right? What do you expect to pay compared to the rest of the country. I pay $3.60 for 93 octane here in the wilds of Florida, you know, a state without an income tax:) I understand the highest rate in the country is in San Francisco and the lowest is Alberquerque. State taxes and state regs on refining and taxes on pipelining play a big part.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

When you suggest a genuinely bold proposal like zeroing out the Department of Education, a Republican wonk immediately imagines the hue and outcry from the Democrats, the teachers unions, and the New York Times. They can’t imagine Republicans withstanding such angry criticism

You've hit my biggest pet peeve with Republicans/Conservatives alike squarely on the head.

However, I think in the last couple of years, they've begun to take a page out of Alinsky and fight back ... some. It is tiresome to deal with people always afraid to speak their mind for fear someone they don't even know will be mad and not like them anymore, like that person liked them to begin with.

centralcal

JiB: Even in California it varies from place to place. I filled up a few days ago for $3.56/gal - but I only need to use Regular. (Sorry, don't know my octanes - unless it is cocktails.)

narciso

I think RS McCain , goes a little too hard against the Neocons, who didn't really move
to overt military intervention, until there
was no other option, as there really wasn't in Afghanistan or Iraq, but Wehner and Kristol, provoke one not to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Jane

JIB,

That's about 1/4 mile from where I live and the site of my weekly Rotary meeting. It's typical New England fare, a little too heavy for my taste, but it certainly is famous for things like Thanksgiving.

The cruise not to miss will be next November which will be announced before this Christmas, apparently. It will start the Saturday after the election and we will be drinking champagne incessantly or crying in our beer.

Stephanie

Paid $2.93 in Gaffney SC on the way back to ATL today. Locally gas is $3.14. It was $3.49 in Charleston.

Jack is Back!

Stephanie,

Its those damn red state taxes. When we will realize we are missing such an opportunity to screw our citizens and raise them:)

Janet

It is tiresome to deal with people always afraid to speak their mind for fear someone they don't even know will be mad and not like them anymore,

Amen, Sara.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Anybody else watching the Romney interview by Sean Hannity on right now?

matt

actually the worst gas prices in the country are in Hawaii and Alaska.

Here in California we are paying @ $4.00/gallon for Super, which is 91 octane.

Stephanie

Yep. All the bluer states (NC, WV, Virginia) were much, much more.

I 1/2 filled up in Charleston and had to stop for a $5.00 fix in NC (at $3.39) to make it to Gaffney. Filled it up all the way in Gaffney and should have enough gas to make it back to Gaffney for the return trip next weekend if I drive a different car the rest of the week.

Exit #75 in Gaffney had the lowest prices on I-85 or the entire trip for that matter.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

It will start the Saturday after the election and we will be drinking champagne incessantly or crying in our beer.

Or maybe alittle of both if it turns out to be Romney???

Clarice

Nice looking place, Jane. Maybe if I drive up to his home in NH with MS, we;ll stop in and take you and Caro to dinner there. %^)

narciso

Ugh, I think daddy would say,


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/environment/judge-upholds-federal-listing-of-alaskas-cook-inlet-beluga-whales-as-endangered-species/2011/11/21/gIQA6H0ViN_story.html

Benjamin Franklin

I say wipe out the Belugas if they can't make it in Darwin's world.

Polar bears have to eat, too.

rse

Yes Holly. I don't want her stressing while she is still healing and she mostly takes the hardest classes because that's where there is still some love for learning. We are getting an MRI in the am. AS the dr said, she shifted laterally and vertically and some soft tissue are not happy. That's my paraphrase of his far more erudite statement.

It is that "this is me" campus we all want for our kids and not a stretch. I think the but what if is adding to the stress.

On the Dept of Ed-wait until people realize the extent of the poison delivery system. Not only will it not be an albatross to abolish it, its operations and policies taint every agency and the federal govt in general.

Clarice

The source is obviously overwhelmed with hits but Pelosi bashed Catholics today for their pro life stance sying "they have this conscience thing".

narciso

Yes, "they have to take one for the team',

Jane

Clarice,

Oh I have a much better place for us to go. Sturbridge is full of good restaurants. MS would like them.

Clarice

Well, Jane, any day now I am certain he'll ask if I care to accompany him to his home in the snowy North. And I surely would not be so selfish as to keep him all to myself.

(Another) Barbara

actually the worst gas prices in the country are in Hawaii and Alaska.

Right, Matt. I filled up today and paid $4.17 per gal. for 92 octane. Anything in the $3-$4 range sounds cheap to me.

Porch, I wish I had known Penzey's political bent. I learned about their weeping for the public sector unions when I actually read something in their catalog for the first time, while waiting in the car for my husband with nothing else except that day's mail to look at. It stabbed me to the heart because their spices are really excellent, they'll ship to Hawaii (which many retailers won't) and their prices are fair. Won't buy there again, though. I cancelled my subscription to Martha Stewart when she gave money to the Clintons, cancelled The New Yorker when Sid Blumenthal wrote a particularly vicious column about Republicans, cancelled Conde Nast's Travel when they made a gratuitous slur against Geo. W, etc., etc. Soon I'll have nothing to read except the text on cereal boxes!

Porchlight

I love all your stories and recipes.

Totally agree that we must not alter our family's traditional dishes unless we want to ruin holidays. My family does a variant on the green bean casserole - kitchen cut green beans instead of French cut, shoe peg (white) corn, cream of celery instead of cream of mushroom, and crushed Cheez-Its on top instead of French's onions. DO NOT tell anyone, this is top secret stuff.

Jack is Back!

Ladies and Gentlemen of JOM,

I am about to retire and will try to see if KC can scoe another score but I doubt it. Until then, stay cool, believe in your values and don't let the bastards wear you down.

See ya'll tomorrow!

BTW, my brine is cooling it on the back of the range.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

You live in California, right? What do you expect to pay compared to the rest of the country. I pay $3.60 for 93 octane here in the wilds of Florida, you know, a state without an income tax:) I understand the highest rate in the country is in San Francisco and the lowest is Alberquerque. State taxes and state regs on refining and taxes on pipelining play a big part.

JiB: On the day of my wedding 1969, gas was 19 cents a gal. A gal can dream, can't she? :)

I don't know what I "expect" to pay, but out here in Calif. the costs soar because every gallon is laden with so many taxes.

Ten years ago, when I was making trip after trip driving across the country, the cheapest gas between Maryland and Calif. was in Oklahoma and when I hit the Calif. state line it would jump sometimes over a dollar higher.

Porchlight

(A)B, it is a drag. Bill Penzey made it clear in the first few issues of the magazine that he intended to include his politics and take the risk with his customers. The magazine didn't succeed, but he doesn't seem to mind. He seems like a nice guy, but I was so disappointed. I didn't want to give up the products.

Pendery's is a similar company - not quite the same range in selection, but a Texas outfit in business since the 19th century. Their chile powders and blends put Penzeys to shame. As far as I can tell, they ship to HI, though it might cost a little more. Give them a try: http://www.penderys.com

centralcal

Boy, have you struck a nerve with me, (A)B. Being a garden-a-holic for years, it saddens me no end to see how liberal my favorite catalogs are and all the "green" stuff - that really has little to do with good gardening practices or the care of plants, and more to do with politics. ugh!

narciso

Sid Vicious, who started out editing a conspiracy tract with Phillip Agee, 'Government by GunPlay' who blamed Perot
for provoking the Iranians with the jail break
in 'On the Wings of Eagles' who sought to tarnish Bush Sr's war hero status, both in the New Republic, who waged that legal jihad
against Mike Ledeen.

centralcal

Oh, and another gripe is the complete misuse and overuse of the words "organic" and "sustainable." more ugh!

Danube of Thought

"I have considerably more fun than the large majority of drinkers I know and I get to remember it afterward."

I'm with Frank Sinatra on this one: "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up, that's as good as they're gonna feel all day."

Jack is Back!

narciso,

I cannot go to bed without praying that Sidney Blumenthal lives in the hell of libel, slander and defamation the rest of his life. What a low life but then this is Hilary and Bill's closer.

Clarice

AB, I've been doing the same thing. I remember my first United flight after the election, I wrote to the company about their inflight mag which was all Obama worship..They apologized --(it was a new editor from the NYT-- and it was his first issue) and I never did see that again.I've done this a lot. How stupid to try to shove your political beliefs down customers throats. Spice House, BTW has rave reviews on line for what it's worth.

Porchlight

Gotta agree with you DoT, though I admire those who have quit or cut down for their fortitude. I suppose I could get along without liquor - I mostly do - but wine and beer are one of the greatest gifts God has made to the world.

Danube of Thought

"they have this conscience thing".

That would be OWS, right?

We are off tomorrow morning to Occupy Tiburon. On Wednesday we intend to Occupy Muir Woods, and on Friday to Occupy San Francisco itself. There's no stopping us!

 Ann

Wouldn't you know it, my husband just walked through the door with a Edwards of Surrey, VA salt ham. Someone tell me what to do with it or I will be hanging it on a tree out back for the deer. They love salt licks, right? :)

Is that a coincidence today or what?

Clarice

Have a great time DoT. I'm occupying Los Angeles..starting tomorrow.

Jane

BTW someone told me today that if Romney gets the nomination Rob Portman will be his #2. He seemed to think he had it on good authority.

I thought Romney did a good job in his interview with Hannity, but it won't pay my health insurance bill.

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