Sunday Morning

So how did you love the debate?  If you thought the greatest crisis facing America was the tendency of Republican Presidential candidates to take forty seconds to deliver a thirty second answer, then you loved CBS moderator Scott Pelley.  Of course, he looked pretty stupid when he cut Mitt Romney off after thirty seconds and Mitt had to explain he was on the sixty second clock.  Ooops! And his lecture to Newt about the illegality of Obama's lethal drone strike on Awlaki was absurd.  Per CBS News, the Justice Department is on one side and the ACLU on the other; the question is at best unresolved.

Among the candidates, I thought the humbler, self-deprecating Rick Perry was effective.  He had some good quips about his Dept of Energy memory lapse, but otherwise did seem lost up there.  Gingrich and Romney stood out, as usual; Cain seemed to be BSing, but it probably didn't cost him support.

Comments

[narciso]

It's interesting to note that the efforts of a Wilson, a Zinni, et al, to burnish their reputations are not new, they go back around 2300 years or so, as Donald Kagan, noted in a tome on Thucydides, the latter excised his role in the Syracuse expedition, and made it look like it was some crazy plot by Cleon, when in truth the operation was the consensus of the day, however poorly the operation turned out,

[narciso]

This gives you a flavor of what I'm referring to.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2009/10/did_thucydides_really_tell_the_truth.2.html

[rse]

Yes Porch. Common Core gets rid of st testing and goes to projects and portfolios and SAT is on way out.

I cannot tell you how many times I have read how tests are in the way of what is to be done in the schools. Over decades.

Rick-there was a particularly troubling intl meetup about a decade ago on how to milk the knowledge of what was to be regulated and push it. There were only a few attendees from US higher ed and Penn State was one.

And as horrible as your image is, it's probably easier to put a physical attack behind you than deliberately crippling people's minds. It's going to be really hard to claim as your defense that you were ignorant of the effects of the required actions that you lied about to the taxpayers.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

TED NUGENT MAKES HIS POINT VERY CLEARLY

Go Ted!

[daddy]

Good Morning. The catching up begins...

Did you guys see this yet? Joe Biden: The very first thing Barack and I did after the Election was call Jon Corzine for Economic Advice.

Beautiful:)

[narciso]

It's like contacting Dr. Wurnstrom, for scientific advice, what could possibly go wrong there?

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

OMG-ABO

[maryrose]

There are tons of pictures of Corzine and Obama, and Biden and Corzine. I expect Corzine to be thrown under the bus in 10,9,8,7,

[maryrose]

Sara:
I love those stats! Every repub candidate should carry those around in their back pocket and recite them to the media daily.

[JM Hanes]

OK, just one more, before I quite googling and do the stuff I'm supposed to be doing. I'll check back later to actually catch up with the rest of the thread, but it does seem clear that Fingar has a firm grip on idiocy of all sorts, Clarice!

Just yesterday, he was cited over at Climate Progress. It's a wonder he's still at Stanford, when he seems such a perfect fit for the Obama Administration. That 2008 briefing you mentioned in your column sounds like veritable job application:

An intelligence forecast being prepared for the next president on future global risks envisions a steady decline in U.S. dominance in the coming decades, as the world is reshaped by globalization, battered by climate change, and destabilized by regional upheavals over shortages of food, water and energy.

The report, previewed in a speech by Thomas Fingar, the U.S. intelligence community’s top analyst, also concludes that the one key area of continued U.S. superiority — military power — will “be the least significant” asset in the increasingly competitive world of the future, because “nobody is going to attack us with massive conventional force.”

Fingar may not be in Washington, himself, but it looks like he's been cloned.

[Clarice]

I foresee a steady resurgence in U.S. dominance as soon as we kick out of office the stupid, lazy shnook who listens to Fingar and his ilk.

[Ignatz]

Sara's chart will DOOM Barry just as a similar one did Carter and Hoover before him.

[Frau Genug-ist-genug]

"Sara's chart will DOOM Barry "

It will need billboards around the country and flyers on every door, Iggy. My town sports Obama 2012 stickers already especially on the autos of the folks in the enclave for retired ministers. There's no fool like a religious left fool. (See Council of Churches and their Elian Gonzalez fiasco)

[rse]

Frau-

One of the religious councils hired Paolo Freire as an advisor. He may well be to the left of ayers.

[Clarice]

Cripes Suzette, a nurse, comes up with the best explanation for MO's constant tongue flicking.(Meds)
http://cripessuzette.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/our-tardive-first-lady/

[pagar]

Sara, Is there a link for that chart of Obama's economic report? I'd like to send it to some friends. Thanks!
--------------------------------------------I would think that the news that Obama and Biden were calling Corzine for economic advise would raise a few eyebrows also. Remember when Obama was house hunting his advice came from a guy named Rezko. In fact, knowing where Obama gets his advice from might explain that whole economic chart. Didn't his presidential campaign start in just a house in his neighborhood?

[daddy]

Great chart Sara. Please do post that link.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

I reposted it from Joey Esparza's Facebook page, but whether it is his or someone else, I cannot tell.

http://www.facebook.com/joey.esparza

His profile indicates he is a Civil Engineer with Kaiser and also presently pursuing an MBA.

[daddy]

Thanks Sara.

I can't access it, but nice to know its out there.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Daddy: In his bio on FB, he writes: "Deal in Facts, Stats & Numbers," and in looking at other posts where he always gives links, I suspect this is his own work. I've left a message for him to confirm or provide an outside link.

[narciso]

Freire, who has gone the way of the Norwegian Blue, probably was to the left of Jeremiah Wright;

Paulo Freire contributed a philosophy of education that came not only from the more classical approaches stemming from Plato, but also from modern Marxist and anti-colonialist thinkers. In fact, in many ways his Pedagogy of the Oppressed (1970) may be best read as an extension of, or reply to, Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of the Earth (1961), which emphasized the need to provide native populations with an education which was simultaneously new and modern (rather than traditional) and anti-colonial (not simply an extension of the culture of the colonizer).

In Pedagogy of the Oppressed (1970), Freire, reprising the oppressors-oppressed distinction, differentiates between the two positions in an unjust society, the oppressor and the oppressed. Freire makes no direct reference to his most direct influence for the distinction, which stems back at least as far as Hegel in 1802, and has since been reprised by many authors including Engels, Marx, Lenin, Gramsci, Simone Weil and others.

[narciso]

Ah, he had a charter school in Philadelphia,
in the LUN, What Carlos Marighela wasn't available,

[Janet]

Sara's graphic looks like it is from the Senate Republican Policy Committee.

[Janet]

Here it is.

[Janet]

Loved to hear about Jim & Captain meeting!...Good stuff in life.

[narciso]

From the wiki, again, 'a strange feeling of deja vu:

"There is no such thing as a neutral education process. Education either functions as an instrument which is used to facilitate the integration of generations into the logic of the present system and bring about conformity to it, or it becomes the ‘practice of freedom’, the means by which men and women deal critically with reality and discover how to participate in the transformation of their world."
—Richard Shaull, drawing on Paulo Freire[3

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Janet: That must be it. Thanks.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Janet and everyone: Joey answered back and says he got the chart from .... Newt!

[pagar]

Janet, Sara, thanks for the link.

[Jack is Back!]

narciso,

Are reading Rosenberg's latest yest? The Tehran Initiative?

Umm. Too close to the truth unfortunately. The only thing missing is a Mahdi.

[narciso]

Yes, makes Stephen King seem like a piker,
by comparison,

[Jack is Back!]

after watching the Jet's 1st drive I have decided its more of Rosenberg for me.