Sunday Morning Open Thread

Here we are.

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[Cecil Turner]

Dude, weak, again. You cite "Republican 'Leadership'" and follow with a story about an organization run by a Democrat. It doesn't work.

[Benjamin Franklin]

"It doesn't work"

Here's something else that don't work;

Maintaining Order Since 32 AD

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/

[Cecil Turner]

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you?

[JM Hanes]

" You cite "Republican 'Leadership'" and follow with a story about....."

I think he just pastes in whatever scrolls by on his RSS feed, Cecil.

[Benjamin Franklin]

I'm just so desperate to find something we can agree on. How about this....

http://www.deusexmalcontent.com/

"Go get a job after you take a bath."

-- Newt Gingrich to the Occupy Wall Street protesters, at last night's Christian Family Leader "values forum" which included most of the GOP candidates for president

[jimmyk]

A few weeks back I said I was going to narcisolate (temporarily) anyone who had multiple posts responding to BF. Much as I love Cecil's regular posts, here goes.... pffft, zap!

Ahh.

[Benjamin Franklin]

or this...http://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/19/cracks-open-in-iran-nuke-charges/

Cracks Open in Iran Nuke Charges

November 19, 2011
Many Washington pundits who championed the false tales about Iraq’s WMD have returned to center stage in the new accusations about Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program. And some of the Iran charges are falling apart just like the Iraq ones, as Gareth Porter reports.

[Cecil Turner]

Your first story was better.

[narciso]

Generally speaking, the whole enterprise seems absurd as Dennis Moore and the lupins, I noticed though ,even one of those more level headed commenters, Glennn Garvin, chose
to present an uplifting view of the coffee
clatch down here, which is to be fair, more toned down than the Mothership in Manhattan,

[Benjamin Franklin]

"I think he just pastes in whatever scrolls by on his RSS feed, Cecil."

I strive to be as discriminatory as any ideologue, Ms Velo

[Cecil Turner]

Yes you're very smart. Shut up.

[Benjamin Franklin]

I think the second one is better. Advise and consent is gonna be a lot harder, now that the usual suspects are known.

[Cecil Turner]

Are you trying to trick me?

[Benjamin Franklin]

Don't pander by calling me 'smart'. That's not very smart.

[Cecil Turner]

Please understand I hold you in the highest respect.

[narciso]

Denial is a long and winding river, you would think they would have some shame by now,

http://www.paulbogdanor.com/deniers.html

[Benjamin Franklin]

Talk to you in the mourning. It's gonna be a long day, and I need my beauty rest.

Gird up your loins, JOMers.

[Cecil Turner]

Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

[narciso]

Btw, Captain, does the current team lineup,
warrant 'the mass hysteria, and dogs and cats
living together'

[narciso]

It's probably hardly worth the effort, she was in my fishwrap, yesterday, like the dolphins that get caught in the tuna nets, in the LUN

[DrJ]

Heh, Caro! It is a pretty great town when the cultural highlight is a ginormous naked Indian. Thanks for coming by.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Even Sara appears to believe that BF is Dana G. Ward, onetime Pitzer instructor. Yet BF continues to deny it.

I don't have any more of a clue than anyone else who he is is what he does. What difference does it make? He is just another name on a computer screen.

What is the hangup with having to know what BF does? I really don't get it. Why is it so important?

[glasater]

ISTM that someone is sockpuppeting Cecil.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Lost for words I see. I am done with you, take some prozac and calm down.

This is really insulting. Very cleo-like and out-of-line.

Why you think I'm anything but calm escapes me. It is blog comment section, not a world summit. There is nothing here that is worth thinking about when not here. Nothing life or death or earth-shaking. It's a damn blog for Pete's sake.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

"Darpa, the Pentagon’s mad-science shop, announced last week that it’s looking to improve on technologies that sniff out biometric signatures like heartbeats from behind walls. Dubbed “Biometrics-at-a-distance,” the program seeks to build sensors that can remotely identify humans from farther away and tell them apart in a crowd.

I'm all for anything that will save lives for the military, but in any other application, this sounds scary as hell. Way way too much intrusion.

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Eeeewwwww!

HAZMAT Called in to Remove 200 POUNDS OF FECES Near #Occupy Santa Cruz Squatters Camp

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

Vanderleun and I agree:

... The long or the short of it all is that between now and the elections almost one year from now the frantic antics and the doings and undoings of whomever the Republicans nominate for president can be spun until you come all undone.... and it won’t make one thin dime’s worth of difference to me. You know right now if you’ve got a smidgen of a scintilla of the sense God gave a goober that you will vote for that candidate and against Barack Obama come hell or high water. And if you know that, knowing who is really just a detail. Vlad the Impaler? Sounds like he's got just the accessory those Occupiers need.

[daddy]

Local Malay paper had a story this morning about a sudden run on Malaysian gecko's. The critters have suddenly become endangered because a new pseudoscience fad from China has come out, saying that eating their dried tongues and internal organs will cure Cancer and HIV. Geez.

[Captain Hate]

Btw, Captain, does the current team lineup,
warrant 'the mass hysteria, and dogs and cats
living together'

Not sure what that's in reference to narc, since this thread has been hijacked into almost complete incomprehensibility that Maguire obviously doesn't mind being associated with him. That repository of deniers you linked is worthy of being nuked from orbit though.

As for Iggy's link to McCannz, the problem is that anybody takes her father seriously; although she's replaced Amy Carter as a cautionary tale against having children too late in life.

[Cecil Turner]

ISTM that someone is sockpuppeting Cecil.

Close. Actually, I was just randomly quoting lines from Princess Bride. (Which makes as much sense as C&Ps from DKos.)

[daddy]

Ha ha Cecil!

I was worried. I was gonna' suggest you take 2 Malay Gecko tongues and call a Doc in the morning:)

[BR]

Daddy, sympathies with your chicken and fish choices.
Can't you take some haute cuisine on board with you?

I remember once on a two-week sail from Africa to England, the fish started tasting like chicken and vice versa!

[The Imp]

Although it may seem that our Sara has gone over to the dark side, it's really a very sophisticated JOM plot. Now that it's done, we can speak about it openly. One of us had to match the brainwaves of the class of leftists represented by our trolls, penetrate and control.

[centralcal]

Good morning. Just read this by Rich Lowry at NRO:

Thanks to everyone who joined us for a very enjoyable turn on the high seas. Those of us who witnessed the Steyn, Goldberg, Genn “night owl” session won’t soon forget it; never has exotic underwear been discussed so brilliantly and hilariously.

I am hoping Jane will expand on this hilarity for our amusement too. (Did it have anything to do with thong underwear?)

[Neo]

In the McCombs case, the billionaire entered into transactions known as variable prepaid forward contracts. He received about $259 million for lending an investment bank his Clear Channel shares with a promise to deliver the stock for good a few years later. The arrangement enabled McCombs to defer paying capital gains tax because he hadn’t sold his shares, lawyers for the billionaire said. The IRS deemed the transaction a sale since the bank paid McCombs cash and got the use of his stock almost immediately.

[Melinda Romanoff]

The WSJ has an op-ed calling for iBama to use the LBJ gambit and let Hillary run.

This won't be behind the paywall.

[Jane]

(Did it have anything to do with thong underwear?)

Indeed. Crotchless thong underwear.

Think about that.

[Clarice]

Mel,It's what Schoen and Cadell said yesterday. It expains Chrissy Matthews turn about--the Dems fear he's killing them and they want him out of the WH

[Porchlight]

What is the hangup with having to know what BF does? I really don't get it. Why is it so important?

Because you insist that DoT did a terrible thing to Dana Ward. But BF says he isn't Dana. So I guess DoT didn't do the things you said he did to BF.

[JM Hanes]

"I was just randomly quoting lines from Princess Bride."

Oh Lordy, that's every kinda funny. LOL!

[Cecil Turner]

Good thing it didn't go on much longer. I was down to "Who else has the cause for ultimate suffering?" and "There will be blood tonight!" which I'm pretty sure would've given the game away.

But BF says he isn't Dana.

No, she says Dana isn't her BF.

[What? Ben who? Oh.]

Err . . . never mind.

[centralcal]

About Chrissy's meltdown yesterday. I wonder if he will be punished by his overlords at MSNBC?

[narciso]

No, I think 'my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die' really would do it. Then again, nothing in either
that film or Spinal Tap, comes close to the absurdity we saw yesterday.

[narciso]

I'm sure this is all a coincidence, no seriously, how else could it happen, in the LUN

[henry]

Jane, Monday and I have to think about crotchless thong underwear? Good thing this is a short work week.

[henry]

rse, Drucker predicted our educational mess. The link has quotes from his 1969 book "The Age of Discontinuity."

[RichatUF]

narciso-

1. Does Soros (and the other Billionaires for Obama) have a position in Embraer? (Brazil the county of the future and it will always be.)

2. Have they promised to build the aircraft in a US state?

3. Could we be looking at a smaller scale "tanker scandal"?

[Jane]

Henry,

Just think dental floss.

[narciso]

No these are not my winnings, honestly;

http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/11/03/#axzz1eLczmX8H

[narciso]

I wonder having read the Quest, was DSK really that bad, neither have a clue, but;

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57326856/christine-lagarde-facing-down-worldwide-recession/?pageNum=4&tag=contentMain;contentBody

[narciso]

My guess he'll be at the top floor in no time,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45383207/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/spies-outed-cia-suffers-hands-hezbollah-lebanon/#.TspbtlZ-jct

[jimmyk]

Drucker predicted our educational mess.

Speaking of which, RIP to Ted Forstmann, who gave away hundreds of millions to the cause of education, notably in support of voucher programs and charter schools.

[narciso]

Of course, Ashgari, referred in the article, was more than likely the 'Curveball' in the 2007 NIE,

[rse]

Not surprising henry. The template was laid back in the 60s and much of the 70s was spent examining why the implementation did not go as planned.

Interesting they want Hillary as I have little doubt based on what she and Bill pushed that we would be in same place on ed but without the stupid side comments that created the Labyrinth thread.

I hope you appreciate how close that GE quote is to our favorite vendors' thoughts as well. Which I have a hard copy of.

And on a lighter note I am in charge of the turkey which I will be brining on Wednesday if anyone would like to suggest their favorite spices to add to the brine.

And on a family funny note my younger sister refused to listen to me when I tried to explain why you want to let any roasted meat, but especially turkey, rest. She insisted on carving it immediately and gave herself a turkey steam sauna and we had dry meat. In her mind she proved she was a peer and in my mind she reminded me why I think she's a twit. Ah the holidays.

[narciso]

Hillary was the original Alinskyite, she wrote her thesis at Wellesley on him, she apprenticed at Treuhaft's office, the Watergate committee, but the pupil became
the master.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Thanks, Clarice.

I was "unavailable for comment" for most of yesterday. Something about football...

[Danube of Thought]

Minus 18 at Raz today.

[Jack is Back!]

Back to Thanksgiving.

Matt Labash has some sage advice on The Day and a very unique way to carve that turkey.

I wonder if some family Thanksgivings end up with pepper spray being dispersed?

[BR]

Great points, Narciso. What a spot they're in. Obama they won't support anymore and Hillary is a loser. Even their own staff know it. But we'll let the MSM keep pushing them until it's too late to choose someone else.

[narciso]

LOL, some good advice right there,

[BR]

Thanks to Sara, the battering ram, and all the gates flew open :)

[narciso]

You know, it's understandable to make a mistake, possibly out of category error, but to make the same mistake

[centralcal]

A little more wisdom from Chrissy Matthews before it disappears from the web:

And Mrs. Obama, she’s an amazing asset. And what has she done? Obesity? How about connecting with the American people about being Americans? I don‘t think she’s, I don‘t think she’s happy. I don’t think they like being in the White House. The American people can tell that. They don’t seem thrilled at the fact the American people have selected them as our first family. I don’t sense the gratitude, the happiness level, the thrill of being president.

Butt, she is an "amazing asset." Okay.

[narciso]

He has assimilated 'doublethink' to an art,
hasn't he, there will likely be a Rubakov
level mea culpa, coming down the pike.

[Clarice]

CC--Chris is a Dem propagandist. He has lost the tingle and wants O out because the internals show O taking down the party. No one can challenge O openly without splitting off the Dems' most reliable base--black voters--so they want to build up a groundswell using hacks like Matthews to do it.

[JM Hanes]

Is anyone else having trouble posting? I've got a comment that Typepad just Will. Not. Post. no matter how I format it. I have no idea why. I took out the bold, the italics, the link. I've tried in Safari and in Firefox.

[Captain Hate]

Tweety must be off the sauce because he hasn't made this much sense since he was disappointed in Slick banging Monica until he was told it was "just about sex".

Ace is up early pounding on Mega McCannz, a topic that's more in his wheelhouse than wailing "OMG these candidates are horrible".

[Captain Hate]

No problem posting here, JMH.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Nope, JMH.

Try and download Ccleaner, run it, and try again. Save the post in a Word file or something, so you can c&p it later.

Ccleaner.

[narciso]

LOL, Captain, seeing as he just got Admiral
Ackbar's telegram, re the Super Committee,
'It's a (deleted)'

[Clarice]

I'm not having a problem today, jmh. OTOH my Apple goes nuts on Lucianne's site--I think it's all those ads.

[Captain Hate]

Btw, I want Rick to tell me why I shouldn't regard this whole debt commission failure as something Boehner shouldn't have gotten snookered into doing; not that I don't think the whole thing won't end up being a big fat nothingburger.

[Ignatz]

--Close. Actually, I was just randomly quoting lines from Princess Bride. (Which makes as much sense as C&Ps from DKos.)--

LOL. Talk about pushing buttons.

[Melinda Romanoff]

CH-

What do you think the first action of the Democrat's Senate representation on the SuperCommitte was?

It tells you exactly what it was designed to do.

Fundraising, only.

[Captain Hate]

Mel that's not giving me a fuzzy feeling. Although if it serves to eliminate Congress of incumbents of both parties, that's a win for me.

[(Another) Barbara]

Lordy, lordy rse, I thought no one would ever ask. This is long and many will hate me for posting it, but I'm willing to live with the humiliation. If you make this turkey your life will be "fundamentally transformed." Promise.

The Best Turkey in the World

(three parts to recipe: curing the turkey, the browned sage butter that goes under the skin, the spices that are rubbed on the skin just before going into the oven)

Cured turkey:

1 1/3 Cups Hawaiian or kosher salt
1/2 Cup plus 2T. sugar
2 bay leaves
1 T. dried thyme
7 whole cloves
1/2 tablespoon whole allspice berries, coarsely cracked
1 t. juniper berries, crushed (I buy these at the health food market)
2 gallons water, approximately

one 12-14 lb. turkey, not ever frozen, not injected with junk

In a very large stock pot combine the salt, sugar, bay leaves, etc. (all the spices). Add the water and bring to boil over high heat. Let cool to room temperature, put the turkey in this fragrant bath, and cover. Refrigerate for up to 24 hours (or put it outside if you live in a cold place and aren’t visited by wolves.) If the brine doesn’t completely cover the turkey, turn it once in a while so all areas get exposed.

Sage butter:

1 stick unsalted butter
20 fresh sage leaves

In a small saucepan or skillet bring the butter to a simmer over medium heat and cook until it turns nicely browned, about five or six minutes, stirring to keep solids from sticking. The last minute add the sage leaves, then remove from the heat and let steep until the butter cools. Throw away leaves (or eat them, like I do) and refrigerate butter until solid. (Can be done a day or two ahead as long as kept in a covered container)

Spice mixture for rubbing into turkey skin:
1 1/2 T. fennel seeds
1 large dried chili pod
1/2 T. whole allspice berries
1/2 T. whole black peppercorns

Toss all of the above in a pan over high heat until fragrant. Cool, and then grind in a spice grinder or mortar and pestle. (Can be kept at room temperature for a couple of days.)

Okay. . . when you’re ready to assemble and begin cooking: Remove turkey from brine and dry him/her/it. Stuff it with whatever you regularly use. With your fingers, loosen the skin from the breast without tearing, and (also with your fingers) spread the softened browned sage butter between the flesh and the skin. Rub the spice mixture all over the turkey’s skin. Bake as you usually do.

# # #

[kave]

(A)B
That sounds fabulous, I'm in. This is my first year brining my fresh Amish Turkey.
Thanks

[narciso]

They put Becerrra and McMillan, Kerrey and Murray, and 'Heckle and Jeckle' for good measure, what could go wrong?

[Jack is Back!]

(A)B,

You do all that for a turkey? You are the stamina leader in the clubhouse. What ever happened to rubbing a little butter on it, some salt and pepper, stuffing it and sticking it in the oven to burn to a crisp:)

Also, you'all have wolves in Hawai'i?

[Melinda Romanoff]

The Dems used it for fundraising, I believe the Repubs actually made an effort, but ran into the "Taxes Only, or Else" crowd on the other side.

It was a truly futile effort on Reid's behalf.

[Benjamin Franklin]

"Actually, I was just randomly quoting lines from Princess Bride. "

Well, that had me worried. I thought he was actually developing 'wit'

[Benjamin Franklin]

TK 'socking' Orly Taitz

http://www.concordmonitor.com/blogentry/293335/orly-taitz-challenges-obamas-us-citizenship?CSAuthResp=1321892457%3A4uf28d42aish6qhpc6h4ckc6o3%3ACSUserId%7CCSGroupId%3Aapproved%3A0A226F80DA4BDF5473E9330A3D468051&CSUserId=94&CSGroupId=1

[Benjamin Franklin]

How are your food stores? Most of you have firearms, but if you don't, you better arm yourself.

http://kunstler.com/blog/2011/11/the-blue-bus-is-calling-us.html

" The MF Global case has fast-tracked the evaporation of trust in all the places, large and small, where American One-percenters stash their cash. The redemption orders must be flying through their transoms like radioactive black swans. By lunchtime tomorrow this could include all the TBTF banks. That's what the pundits mean by "contagion." Where will that money go now (if they can get it out)?
I don't see where else it can go now except to shiny yellow and white metal, and maybe some oil positions. But the mechanisms of the precious metals trade have also been monkeyed with, and you'd best be careful where you place your order. As for oil, if lending really does seize-up, then letters-of-credit will not be issued and tankers will not be moving any product. More to the point, the global revolving debt system has depended on colossal transfers of ultra-short-term borrowed money. If short-term borrowing is simply unavailable, things could go south very quickly - and by that I mean food stops arriving at the supermarkets, which hold just a three-day supply. Wouldn't that make for an interesting Thanksgiving?
I have admittedly painted an extreme picture this week. But this week presents the most extreme convergence of events the world has seen since September of 2008, and perhaps a good bit worse."

[Sara (Pal2Pal)]

(Which makes as much sense as C&Ps from DKos.)

Because, God forbid, we should know what the oppo is up to during an election year.

[MJW]

Sara, if we want to know what they're saying on DKos, we could go to that website. The cut and pastes are pointless and rude.

[kave]

Lord love a duck, enough already.