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January 19, 2012

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Ignatz

Haley Barbour on his pardons.
Interesting details I hadn't read previously.

centralcal

Jane: I think Sally Kohn looks like Maddow's younger brother. On the other hand, if she wore glasses, she might pass as a twin.

(Another) Barbara

Sally Kohn is the woman who justified that 5 year old being used by his mother to go up to Michelle Bachman and say his gay mother didn't need fixing.

Figures. Sally Kohn is lesbian and lives with her partner. They have a young child as well.

I believe she once listed her occupation as "community organizer." Figures too.

glasater

Ken Salazar on CNBC just now saying the torpedoing of the Keystone pipeline was the Rs fault.
This is the meme the MSM will be trumpeting for the rest of the year.

narciso

Here are the higlights;


Founder + Chief Education Officer at Movement Vision Lab

Past

Senior Campaign Strategist at Center for Community Change
Program Associate at Ford Foundation
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peter

"made in China" union pin. Very funny, threadkiller.
We have to walk a fine line. We explain to our children that they are being indoctrinated but they cannot ruin their own careers by taking on the teacher head on. Subtle chiding is our m.o.
My wife suggested the union pin say "Hope and Change."

Danube of Thought

Speaking Truth to Power (Don Surber):

America may be raising its children all right after all. McClatchy Newspapers reported that middle-school and high-school students are Questioning Authority and asking teachers touchy questions about man-caused global warming, the controversial theory that man’s sin of materialism will result in turning the world into Hell on Earth. Frank Niepold, climate education coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, complained that the kids are asking too many questions.

From Frank Niepold: “Any time we have a meeting of 100 teachers, if you ask whether they’re running into push back on teaching climate change, 50 will raise their hands. We ask questions about how sizable it is, and they tell us it is (sizable) and pretty persistent, from many places: your administration, parents, students, even your own family.”

Clarice

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/19/trumka-under-the-obama-bus-too/

A little morning sherbet.

Sue

Ig,

He actually debated in the primary. And did okay. Which is why I wasn't all that worried about his debate skills. WRONG! Anyway, I don't think he is going to run for governor again. I think he made that decision before he jumped in the presidential race.

narciso

Sob, it couldn't happen to a nicer fellow;


http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/national/17-Jan-2012/ijaz-working-for-isi-claims-ex-raw-chief

Melinda Romanoff

Thanks, Clarice!

A palate cleanser is sometimes necessary.

Jim Ryan

When I recall that Newt would be able to destroy Obama in the debates, my strong disinclination to vote for Newt in the primary vanishes. Romney would be able to win the debates, but the job Newt would do on Zero might earn him enough votes to make the difference in the general election.

narciso

He can commiserate with that friend of the family, Moammar, oh wait, forget that suggestion.

Clarice

Gosh, I remember when Ijaz was "the thing"--quoted all the time, but is he still regarded as any kind of expert here? Whether he's working with ISI as the Indian press reports or not, I expect he could not provide good info had he no contacts in the ISI.

centralcal

Jim R: If it was only about debates - and we both realize it isn't - Newt v. Obama debates are good on two counts. He could do a "job" (as you put it - lol) on both Obama and the liberal media moderating the debate(s).

Danube of Thought

This Jobs Council stuff will generate about as much administration action as the Debt Commission did.

Clarice

You've got it, DoT. Remember, they recommended the Keystone Pipeline be approved.

If they had any guts they'd attack Obama for wasting their reputations and time.

narciso

The question is of course, 'which boys from
Aapbara,' was Ijaz affiliated with, and frankly who isn't over there,

Appalled

The job Newt would do on Zero might earn him enough votes to make the difference in the general election.

The job Newt would do on Newt would cost him the election well before any debates.

Danube of Thought

Newt's finger is never very far from the self-destruct button. Far more likely to be a disastrous nominee than a winning one.

Manuel Transmission

I was always curious as to why Ijaz used to pop up on Fox pretty regularly, then poof.

Extraneus

When I recall that Newt would be able to destroy Obama in the debates, my strong disinclination to vote for Newt in the primary vanishes.

What about Newt for VP? Attack Dog is an important position, and Romney could probably use one more than most.

Thomas Collins

The job Gingrich, Santorum and Perry have done in setting up the wealth resentment issue for Axelplouffe to attempt a quick knockout of Romney is astounding.

Frau Geheimdienst

Wives of politicians, past or present...

Imagine what Joan Bennett Kennedy might have told about Teddy and his neck brace.
And more.

Clarice

Except as the Gallup poll ranger noted above shows, it ain't working, TC.

Jack is Back!

TC,

And that is why incumbency, even that of a comlete incompetent, doofus, charlatan, like Obama, has its advantages. Only the Republicans are running a bunch of disparate and desperate politicians against each other creating all kinds of memories. Obama has a completely "white-out" schedule. No opposition except the slings and arrows that the debates throw out there from time to time.

In fact, he can skate in advance to any venue that will soon be primary territory like today in Florida, get the press, set the narrative, etc. Even though I liked Perry he has done the right thing by dropping out and endorsing Newt. It only shortens the time where the buiness focusses primarily and only on Obama and his record.

Incumbency is his biggest advantage, threat and difference maker.

(Another) Barbara

When I recall that Newt would be able to destroy Obama in the debates, my strong disinclination to vote for Newt in the primary vanishes.

Newt would not destroy Obama in the debates, Jim, or Newt would be destroyed too. He knows that. He would be respectful of the POTUS or else he'd have to add "mean" to the descriptors "fat, white, unattractive old pol." The independents who will decide the election won't be won by a show of temper or disrespect, no matter how much Newt knows or what positions he upholds.

Yes, "destroying" Obama in the debates would make us ecstatic at JOM, but I'm doubtful that would compensate for our loss on election day.

It's unimportant now, anyway. Newt's finished.

Janet

I've mentioned this before -
On our listserv we keep getting a post about a new movie called The City Dark.
One of the sponsors is the International Dark Sky Association.
Here is a bit from about the film -
"THE CITY DARK asks a simple question: “Do we need the stars?” Blending a contemplative tone with cutting-edge science and poetic footage of the night sky, filmmaker Ian Cheney unravels the myriad implications of a globe glittering with lights—including increased cancer rates, disrupted wildlife habitats and migratory patterns, and a generation of children without a glimpse of the universe above. "

What??? (bold is mine)

Porchlight

I think Newt could be excellent in the VP role, Ext. He surely can't be any worse than the guy we've currently got.

Thomas Collins

I hope so, Clarice. I'm not quite as optimistic that the Gallup Poll reflects what the ultimate result of the wealth card will be. In a close race decided by upper middle class guilt ridden persuadable independents in Florida, North Carolina, Virginia and Ohio, the wealth card may be effective. In any event, I hope I am underestimating the effectiveness of Romney's response team.

Janet

Imagine what Joan Bennett Kennedy might have told about Teddy and his neck brace.
And more.

Yeah Frau! It really is maddening. Where is the damn 60 Minutes program featuring Tipper Gore too?

Porchlight

He would be respectful of the POTUS or else he'd have to add "mean" to the descriptors "fat, white, unattractive old pol."

So what will Romney do in contrast? Be respectful of Barry, look good, ?

Obama relishes the prospect of a debate opponent who is cowed by his position as POTUS and his race. He will lie like a rug and the MSM will cover for him.

Thomas Collins

JiB, I agree about the advantage of incumbency. That's why I hoped Romney could score a decisive win in South Carolina. The latest tracking polls make it look as if Newt will be able to carry on for about another month or two. I hope after that point the GOP can come together.

(Another) Barbara

What about Newt for VP?

Fat chance!

Ranger

Well, the disadvantage of incumbancy in Obama's case is his record over the last 3 years.

rse

The look Newt had on his face last night on the news, that I am back on top cheeky grin, always presages another foot chomping exercise.

And NOAA has gotten an increase in its funding and jurisdiction expressly to become involved in educating for Climate Change. Also ties into the new Science standards that will make Dr J weep. I suspect that such indoctrination will become part of the charge for principals so it will be hard to complain about particular teachers. Every admin is being told that advocating for certain things in each classroom's practice is part of being the "instructional leader of the school" and necessary for career advancement. It is the accrediting agencies like SACS who are primary drivers pushing the poison. They also control who gets promoted for that next stage of taxpayer funded largesse so their will gets implemented or there will be no future promotions. Essentially the legislatures have licensed extortion operations to then increase the power of the political class.

And pushing this creates contempt for the adult teachers and admins which is never a healthy lesson for teenagers. Makes them think they are smarter than they are.

Chubby

listening to one of Newt's ads, you'd think he, Newt, was the entire reason for Reagan's success

Rick Ballard

TC,

Governor Romney's team is gauging the strength of the inoculation prior to responding. Although I truly enjoy mocking them I really have no problem with the lack of response. There is no reason to believe that the Fuddle will favor the Kendonesian commie bastard on the basis of envy. They feel the effect of his incompetence every single day and it continues to deepen their dislike for him.

Janet

Frau, I shared that picture & your thoughts on FB.

Jack is Back!

Wasn't John "Freaking" Kerry married once before he found that gold mine John Heinz left behind? I think she suffered from depression and hated being a political wife. [Who wouldn't if the politician you were married to was Kerry?]

(Another) Barbara

So what will Romney do in contrast? Be respectful of Barry, look good, ?

I certainly hope so.

Chubby

((So what will Romney do in contrast? Be respectful of Barry, look good, ?))

Romney's attacks on Obama have been pretty effective, imo. His recurring theme: "This is a failed president."

Rocco

It appears that Speaker Gingrich is also into "Social Engineering" eh?

Newt on gay marriage: I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman and his girlfriend.

I think he's toast!

Ignatz

The problem with Newt destroying anyone is half the time he pulls the pin and chucks the grenade with pinpoint accuracy.
The other half he pulls the pin and chucks it.

Jack is Back!

Don't forget, folks, today is Edgar Allan Poe's birthday!

Chubby

((I think he's toast!))

I think he's a blowhard and God willing the next U.S. president will not be another blowhard.

Rocco

And if there's any truth to the allegations, what does it say about his current wife that she was willing to share Newt?

Jim Ryan

Frau, the look on Teddy's face! "I'm guilty as sin but I refuse to acknowledge it."

Jack is Back!

With apologies to Paul Harvey:

---And now the "rest of the story" about Edgar Allen Poe [USMA 1834]. Poe hated being at West Point and decided to leave by purposely getting court-martialed. On February 8, 1831, he was tried for gross neglect of duty and disobedience of orders. When the uniform for parade was announced as "crossbelts and swords," that's how he showed up....wearing nothing else. Poe tactically pled not guilty to induce dismissal, knowing he would be found guilty. It is said that The Murders in the Rue Morgue describe the buildings at West Point. We who have stayed in "Old South" at West Point would concur.

Porchlight

Sorry, but I don't see it. Romney will get creamed in the debates. He'll be nice and respectful and Obama will walk all over him.

lyle

They feel the effect of his incompetence every single day and it continues to deepen their dislike for him.

Thanks for writing that, RB. This is why I believe all these polls telling us that the incompetent wad in the WH is "still personally popular" are utter bullshit. And Duke and Duke's admonition to tread lightly means they've fallen for the same BS.

The dude has insulted, denigrated, or demeaned damn near every class of people in this country including key portions of his base. (Telling blacks to stop whinin'. OK, I know they won't desert him but still...)

narciso

'Something of that nature':

In 1982 Thorne, who was suffering from severe depression, asked Kerry for a separation.[12] They were divorced on July 25, 1988, and the marriage was formally annulled in 1997. "After 14 years as a political wife, I associated politics only with anger, fear and loneliness" she wrote in A Change of Heart, her book about depression. Thorne later married Richard Charlesworth, an architect, and moved to Bozeman, Montana, where she became active in local environmental groups such as the Greater Yellowstone Coalition. Thorne supported Kerry's 2004 presidential run. She died of cancer on April 27, 2006.

Frau Geheimdienst

"excuse me, guys, but has the cat got your tongues and keeping you from raising hell with a school that allows indoctrination on Walmart and Islam?"

Clarice, it's time to call in Janet and the Redneck Rabble-Rousters to chuck those abusing their positions as teachers. An outside agency with the a polite backbone needs to intervene and loudly. When I taught school, the restraint on my personal opinions was complete. Of course, I was there to assist learning and not to propagandize. Pfui!

narciso

Well you see the Times poll, 38% total support, 31% among independents, that is what they consider an opportunity, for W or any other politician, they would call that a 'dirge'

lyle

He'll be nice and respectful and Obama will walk all over him.

Maybe. But if he's counting on the indies, I think they've just about had enough of O's contempt. If he comes across like the thin-skinned, condescending dick that he is, he's going to turn a lot of people off. Well, if they haven't been already.

Frau Geheimdienst

Jim R. - look at the look on *Joan*'s face and remember what we know about the course her life took with the Swimmer.

In a political thriller, an uneasy and unhappy wife could have been turned into an alcoholic to protect the guilty.

narciso

But that strategy didn't work in the end, in the LUN.

Ranger

Well, I have no doubt that, when Obama talkes about how he is going to cut the size of government in the future, Romney could point out that he promised net spending cuts in 2008, and Federal spending is almost 25% higher now, while still showoing all due respect to the office of President.

Jane

Interesting back and forth with Dick on the radio today, and I'm interested in whether you guys have the same take as I do.

Dick was lamenting that Mitt really shot himself in the foot being so cavalier about his money. He was pointing to "I made a little money in speaking fees" and the "little" part was $300,000.00. So Dick went on how the average person in a bar siting there makes 34k and resents Mitt's wealth.

My position is that at least half the people in the bar are thinking: "Good for him, I hope I can do that too," And that is the difference between Dick's democrat philosophy and free market capitalism. Where Dick sees it as Romney's failure to share and I see it as an example of what you can do in America, and good for him.

Am I over stating the basic difference in beliefs?

Ignatz

In 1982 Thorne, who was suffering from severe depression, asked Kerry for a separation.[12] They were divorced on July 25, 1988, and.....Thorne immediately flushed her anti depressants and didn't stop smiling unit her death in 2006.

Porchlight

Well, if they haven't been already.

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about.

Chubby

:) Ranger

Extraneus

Maybe there's a fine line that can be navigated, but I don't see how being respectful to Obama's gonna cut it. I know we were only talking about debates, but to me the way to handle Obama and his allies in the press in this campaign, including in the debates, is to continually attack him and them without pause. Stockpile a hundred lines of attack, including personal ones, and just roll them out one by one, with allies ready to go on TV, etc. It doesn't have to be done in a bomb-throwing way, but it does have to be pretty mean, imho.

rse

Those wanting to gut the federal Dept of Ed should read the LUN interview and note his statement that "Part of the business we should be in is managing a portfolio of states".

Duncan has also openly stated DoEd will simply dictate without statutory authority on ed policy until Congress gives it the statute it envisions as acceptable. It will simply ignore what it deems unsatisfactory.

This really is administrative despotism, regardless of the intent to get to political and economic despotism using it. The Reps should be screaming about this lawlessness.

Thomas Collins

Jane, I don't think Mitt's wealth will be a problem with the guy in the bar making $34K. I think Axelplouffe might turn some guilt ridden lawyers or doctors or investment bankers or other white collar professionals by playing the Mitt wealth card. If it's a close race in the swing states, it could be enough, along with effective urban voter fraud and Dem get out the efforts, to put Obama over the top.

One of the benefits to playing the Mitt wealth card is that, in addition to being guilt ridden, many white collar professionals will be envious that Mitt topped them in the wealth accumulation game.

A Casual Observation

There are two exceptions, MarkO.

Fox's liberal, Martha McCallum, is as cute as a button. She has beauty and brains, and she is a class act, too.

Fox News Babe, Ainesley Earhart, could be the wholesome, all-American girl, and she is a class act, too.

Any dad would be proud to have them as his daughters. Any guy would date them without any regard for their political affiliations.

centralcal

I don't know, Jane - do people really sit around "resenting" other people's wealth? I think if people come by it honestly (rather than corruptly) there is no resentment.

$300k in speaking fees is really small potatoes when you contrast that to what a Bill Clinton makes in speaking fees (a point Rush was making today).

I resent the hell out of Barack Obama and Her Excellency Michelle Obama living the "ultra" high life on the tax payer's dime. They have taken abuse of office to whole new levels.

Porchlight

I think you state the difference correctly, Jane.

My view is somewhere in the middle. I absolutely don't resent Romney for making the money and I don't think Romney ought to be forced to share. I would also like to make $300K someday.

But *if* I'm making $34K, which incidentally is pretty close to my actual salary, I don't want the President to talk to me about $300K as if it is chump change. I want the President to demonstrate an understanding that $300K is serious money to the average American. Money that is increasingly difficult to earn as a result of Obama's policies that kill jobs and raise energy and food prices, etc. etc.

Extraneus

do people really sit around "resenting" other people's wealth?

I kind of resent the wealth of hip-hop stars.

narciso

Of frabjous joy, I missed this part;


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2012/01/19/washington-post-slams-obamas-nixing-keystone-pipeline-then-calls-highe

bio mom

Obama is tall, slender, handsome and youthful. Gingrich is fat, jowly, has crooked grey teeth and is a retread who can't stop bringing up Ronald Reagan (who, incidentally, is dead and was president over 20 years ago so anybody under 30 thinks of him as a relic of the past). Few debate watchers will hear one word of the so called brilliant Gingrich debating. They will see and remember the visual. Obama wins. Also, the public will know plenty about the multiple marriages and Calista, etc. They will contrast this with Obama and his wholesome family. Obama wins again. This is how it is in 2012. The Rs CANNOT nominate Gingrich. It will be suicide.

Chubby

((It doesn't have to be done in a bomb-throwing way, but it does have to be pretty mean, imho.))

Romney's side did such a good job on Newt that Newt is still howling about it. If patterns repeat, I tend to think they will do their best to similarly eviscerate Obama, but leaving Romney's toga unstained. I might have missed something, but I haven't heard Romney whining about any of the attacks leveled at him. Have you? Not being a whiner is a strong point in his favor, imo.

Chubby

((I kind of resent the wealth of hip-hop stars.))

if Romney is president maybe the WH will do the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. That would be a nice change.

Jack is Back!

Porch is right. Mitt was comparing the $300k to his total wealth and not realizing that weakened the "trust" link with the average voter. He needs to demonstrate an economic empathy wtih the general voting public out there and not just his own particular issues. Start by defending private equity, capitalism, free market economics, wealth creation and jobs as it relates to the overall domestic economy and its effect on the average Joe voter. Sometimes he is just too damn insular. But not as much as Obama.

centralcal

bio mom: Were you issuing these warnings when we had handsome, youthful, well spoken, and charismatic John McCain running as President? Just curious, "my friend."

Extraneus

Check out Newton's entry in this slide-show of high-school yearbook photos:

Rick Santorum's Tragic Yearbook Photo

daddy

FOX has Newt on live on at some big press conference in South Carolina, surrounded by family and talking to us about them.

Daughters, brother, wife, grandkid, etc. He is looking quite comfortable. Looks to me like he is going to try to politely go on offense. I also suspect that having an 8 year old standing next to him may forestall somebody screaming inappropriate questions, sort of like Chelsea standing between Bill and Hill during the Monica business.

Guess we will find out.

daddy

According to our local paper Rick Perry has dropped out and given his support to Newt, and Santorum won Iowa.

Man, I have a lot of catching up to do today.

Captain Hate

When will NBC counter ABC with an in-depth interview with the Ugly Duckling about how Slick's philandering while in office impacted the current Secretary of State and her?

Extraneus

Romney's side did such a good job on Newt that Newt is still howling about it. If patterns repeat, I tend to think they will do their best to similarly eviscerate Obama, but leaving Romney's toga unstained.

My favorite thing about Mitt is how much his opponents hate him.

centralcal

I haven't heard Romney whining about any of the attacks leveled at him.

First caveat - I am not a Newt supporter. I am also not enamored of Romney. I truly have no candidate until there is one left standing.

However, chubby, did you miss the prissy snit fit that Romney had on air in an interview with that rabid, vicious, Brett Baier? The body language was utterly off the charts! And after the interview he actually stopped Baier in the hallway to whine and complain. He came off looking so bad that he ended up doing multiple interviews on FNC to undo the damage.

Danube of Thought

Recall that Ronaldus Maximus was unfailingly polite to the fool Carter while totally shredding him. But (to paraphrase Rick Pitino) Ronaldus Maximus ain't walking through that door.

Chubby

((However, chubby, did you miss the prissy snit fit that Romney had on air in an interview with that rabid, vicious, Brett Baier? ))

yes I did miss it and I'd like to see it. is there a video?

A Casual Observation

"Obama is tall, slender, handsome and youthful"

"handsome, youthful, well spoken, and charismatic John McCain"

WTF? Welcome to Geriatric Park, folks.
They'll soon take meds an their naps.

centralcal

I am sure you could google and find it. It was quite the subject for several pundits and occasionally gets brought up from time to time. It was done, if I remember, before the Iowa caucuses.

Sue

WTF? Welcome to Geriatric Park, folks.
They'll soon take meds an their naps.

Or maybe you will have an "aha!" moment and realize the leader of the pack was not being serious in her description.

bio mom

Centrical, I was not much of a McCain supporter. And we should learn from our mistakes.

centralcal

Here you go, chubby, I think I found a video.

centralcal

Sue - I thought the snark was well evident. ha ha ha ha - apparently not. sheesh.

Chubby

(( It was done, if I remember, before the Iowa caucuses.
))

It must have happened during one of my spells when, for the sake of my wellbeing, I feel I have to turn away from all things political.

narciso

I hate to have to settle, really it's Newt or SAntorum, those are the choices, Mitt represents the Fnork, the Clique, Duke and Duke, in all it's glory, they would never back Bolton, and they were in the forefront
of the shivs against Christine and Sarah.

daddy

Momma who gets up earlier than me, just came in from her dogwalk and asked me if I had seen Newt's 2nd wife?.

She said "geezus, it's like that Mark Twain thing where Twain was all angry about Mormon's marrying extra wives, until he actually finally saw their women...and then decided we ought to give them all a clap on the back and a round of applause for marrying such ugly chicks."

Momma said we ought to give Newt the presidency just for marrying that ugly gal.

I was LOLing the whole time. Momma is fun when she's on a role.

I asked if she thought this Maryann Gingrich gal or whatever her name is was uglier than the maid Arnold Swartzenegger was banging, and she said "Oh yeah."

Way to go Momma!

BTW, The Mark Twain thing she refers to comes from "Roughing It," and is easily goggleable and well worth reading for some good laughs, and the Mormon's that I have known thought that bit was very fun, which it is, because as is evident today Mormon gals are generally gorgeous.

narciso

Here you go;


http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0oG7hPkbBhPmiIANUlXNyoA?p=Baier%3B%20Bret%3B%20Romney&fr=moz35&fr2=piv-web

Extraneus

Recall that Ronaldus Maximus was unfailingly polite to the fool Carter while totally shredding him.

"There you go again" wasn't exactly respectful.

Like the left's famous respecting of the solider but not the mission, in Obama's case one should respect the office but not the office holder.

centralcal

Classy, but also no longer "historic," back to back wins:

jeffzeleny Jeff Zeleny
Romney called to concede Iowa to Santorum, according to Hogan Gidley, a spokesman for Santurm. An Iowa muddle no more?

narciso

A little bit of context;


http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01/when-marianne-cleaned-out-the-house/

centralcal

lol, daddy! too funny. I am still flummoxed (or is it fummoxed?) over Newt calling wife #2 a jaguar and his mistress (wife #3) a chevy.

A jaguar? What the heck am I missing?

Ranger

in Obama's case one should respect the office but not the office holder.

Yes, exactly. Which is why using the things he said before he became president is a key part of the strategy. Also, I think Romney is dead on in using the attack of 'Obama's failed presidency.' That splits the difference between the man and the office. The problems areb't the circumstance, or the structure and power of the office. The problem is that Obama has failed in the office.

Rick Ballard

Porchlight,

Never be surprised by the ability of Horatio Alger VIII to step in the Grey Poupon.

I agree with (A)B re the inadvisability of Governor Romney going after BOzo on a personal basis. Period. BOzo is President because the Fuddle believed his lies and "felt that he deserved a chance". They now feel that he has botched it and as long as they continue to feel that way it would be a mistake to elicit any feeling of sympathy for the SCOAMF.

Talking about failed policies, poor decisions and the President's many lies is another matter and Governor Romney will focus on all of those.

RichatUF

Obama has a completely "white-out" schedule.

He was in Disney World today, yammering on about Huntsman's issue-travel and tourism.

So he kills the Keystone Pipeline, there are refinery problems in the USVI, and 2 in PA are getting closed (over 500k/gal of production), and he wants to talk about taking the kids to Disney World.

Not sure how Mitt's speaking fees would play with the 34K/year crowd at the bar, but Obama talking about Disney World when my gas budget is cutting into my beer budget really would piss me off.

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