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January 24, 2012

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daddy

ADN now has a 5th story on Kumbaya seating at tonights SOTU.

They are freakin' morons.

Benjamin Franklin

"IMO, That entire article was bullshit, Tom."

He can't hear you. He's busy preparing another 5-day open thread.

Jane

Gee Sara, it's almost like you never left. Good planning.

Rick,

I dunno if I can bear it. Obama will say republicans are bad, we need more taxes and he wants fairness, oh and re-elect me, your messiah.

Daddy, what about you?

centralcal

Gee Sara, it's almost like you never left. Good planning.

No kidding. Sara never missed a single thread! Not too many folks having surgery could accomplish that feat!

Extraneus

In an amazing coincidence, Most Americans agree with "Buffett rule" concept, [CBS] poll shows


Shouldn't there be a companion chart shwoing how many of these respondents know what capital gains and dividends are?

Imagine what would happen if we really taxed investment income at the ordinary income rates?

centralcal

Jane: You mind reader, you:

markknoller Mark Knoller
Pres Obama tonite calls for economy “where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share & everyone plays by same set of rules.”

markknoller Mark Knoller
Pres Obama will say that what’s at stake “are not Democratic values or Republican values, but American values. “

clarice feldman

Imagine, if Romney had the brains and wit to explain it, Extraneus.

Jim Miller

cathyf - I see someone has already linked to the WSJ column on the attack on Catholic institutions. Here in Washington state, there is a similar attack; a number of Democrats have proposed a law that would force health insurance companies to cover abortion, if the policies cover births.

You don't have to be Catholic -- I'm not -- to be disturbed by these attacks on individual religious freedom.

And I am sure it is no accident that many of these attacks are led by people (Sibelius, Gregoire, et cetera) who are nominal Catholics.

NK

Haditha was worse than Breaker Morant. Alot of facts are forever disputed but certain things even the Aussie's admit: Morant took prisoners who surrendered; he dispensed 'field justice' in the form of a consensus amongst his officers and noncoms that the Boer prisoners were the men who killed and mutilated Captain Hunt's body and stole his Khaki uniform-- he then had the Boers executed (as the movie says) "pursuant to Section .303" (the caliber of the Aussie's Enfield rifles). Even in the worst light Lord Kitchener had a sound military reason not to let stand the execution of surrendered prisoners. That would have complicated an already ugly guerilla war and cease fire discussions. In Haditha, Murtha and his ilk had no justification to slander the Marines; it was driven by Murtha's pathological hatred of the POTUS. Kitchener sacrificed soldiers -- wrongly-- for what he considered militarily justified reasons. Murtha was a pig who used pawns to get at the POTUS.

clarice feldman

I was never quite sure of Murtha's motivation. He was a pig, of course, stealing defense funds to feather his nest and that of his friends, and the Haditha clander. I think Code Pink love bombed him, and he was partisan. I also think some assholes from NCIS fed into his animus with exagerrated, unvetted field reports.

clarice feldman

*Slander*

NK

Clarice-- I'm tempting cosmic fate here attacking the dead, but I don't care what NCIS or the CIA or anyone 'fed' Murtha. He slandered young Marines who are better than all of us because they volunteered and they went, and he did for no reason other than to attack the POTUS. He used the young and the brave to advance his disgusting self-interest. I swear, I hope he is burning in Hell.

Extraneus

Imagine, if Romney had the brains and wit to explain it, Extraneus.

I have a fairly active imagination, but I'm having a hard time imagining that, Clarice.

Jim Miller

Speaking of charitable gifts, didn't the Cheneys donate all their income from a book -- which was 70 percent of their income that year, or something like that -- to charity?

(As I recall, they were attacked for cutting their taxes too much, by the usual gang of leftists.)

Danube of Thought

she's given far more than she's gotten from the RNC.

What, exactly, was the RNC supposed to do for her? Give her money? She quit her job as governor, and since that moment has not held or been a candidate for any public office. She was out doing her TV show and her book tours and her bus tour and her Fox News gig. What's that got to do with the RNC?

rse

On clarice's Duke link upthread, that study was included in the brief from Texas to try to get SCOTUS to revisit the Grutter case on affirmative action in higher ed. Ahead of Sandra's 25 years. Roger Clegg has really been covering this story.

The same study also found a similar trend involving legacy admissions.

clarice feldman

While I am delighted as can be about the outcome of the Haditha hoax, I cannot forget the expense and psychological stress on these men and their families nor the obvious effect on morale of the troops.

Janet

Thanks maryrose...I watched as the anti-war movement started gearing up after 9-11 & I couldn't stand it. The first political thing I ever went to was a Support the Troops rally down on the Mall when some ANSWER march was happening. The internet changed everything too...finally reading people that thought the same things & finding out who some of the leftist groups really were.
Looking for that Haditha folder... I found my 3 or 4 bulging folders on Libby too. I regret throwing some of my notes out. I had lists of dates/times of great comments with JOMers names next to them...I didn't post back then though.

Porchlight

I didn't post back then though.

To our great loss, Janet.

Extraneus

Heh.

Richard Cohen: How Gingrich can make Obama a stronger candidate

The Gingrich I seek is not the man above but the one of big ideas. The term gets thrown around a lot, and Gingrich himself is apt to think his every idea is BIG. His mind is always in the tumble cycle. And even when he is spouting boilerplate, he can distance himself from his worn verbiage to say something fresh or provocative or ugly — it’s all the same to him. Out of nowhere, he has exhumed Saul Alinsky, whose fame is limited to university sociology departments, and yet whose name is so perfectly evocative of old-style radicalism, vaguely European in sound, that it fits Gingrich’s recent formulation, “people who don’t like the classical America.” Who dat, Newt?
Is that really where his fame is limited to, Cohen? Out of nowhere?
Benjamin Franklin

"While I am delighted as can be about the outcome of the Haditha hoax, I cannot forget the expense and psychological stress on these men and their families nor the obvious effect on morale of the troops"

As puerile, an example I can think of for, cognitive dissonance. Or is it Oxymoron?.

Janet

Such a Luddite! I didn't have a Web Site URL & didn't know what one was....so I figured I couldn't post! Hah!

NK

Murtha slandered these particular Marines. But he also hurt all of the volunteer soldiers, sailors and marines by repeating the slanderous lie that they were in Iraq because the POTUS 'lied', that there were there for 'oil' and all that Left Wing BS. These young people volunteered for all the right reason, and this old bastard was telling them they were pawns. He was disgusting.

daddy

Jane,

I don't know if it will be on live over here. Maybe CNN will run it, but I really detest the guy so much I think I'll take a pass. Maybe I'll turn it on until I can't stand it any longer.

I think just hearing the TV guys slobber over the Bipartisan seating business would make me vomit. How the hell the Anchorage Daily News can have run 5 different stories already on Lisa Murkowski and her seating arrangement conflounds me.

NK,

You're correct about that video. I enjoyed seeing how fast the air over the top of the wings moved, but the comments, which I hadn't read, were excellent. We were always taught that it was the pressure reduction over the wing, caused by that air movement, that generated lift.

Porchlight

Oh no, Janet! I was terrified when I first started posting. I didn't think I had anything to contribute. Obviously, I didn't let that stop me. :)

Extraneus

More laughable Cohen:

Mitt Romney adds nothing to the national debate, not so far anyway. If he’s the GOP nominee, we will get more of his nonsense about running a business — tell me what great president ever ran a successful business — and how he’s a job creator. With Gingrich, it would be different. He might actually challenge Obama to think hard, to be creative, to come out of his shell, to listen to someone other than Valerie Jarrett, to swing for the proverbial fences, to blow up a cacophonous tax code (what an awful noise it makes!), to take on the public-service unions, to end the war in Afghanistan sooner than later and . . . you get the picture.
Janet

I also think some assholes from NCIS fed into his animus with exagerrated, unvetted field reports.

Yeah Clarice. This article from April 2007 lists some of them.

clarice feldman

I couldn't figure out the website either, Janet. I used to come over to read the TM posts but couldn't figure out how to read the comments or post. HEH

Jim Miller

" . . . tell me what great president ever ran a successful business . . . "

George Washington, to start with.

And Lincoln was a pretty successful lawyer.

Those two make most lists of great presidents.

clarice feldman

Thanks, Janet. I didn't think I messed up that recollection.

Melinda Romanoff

Jefferson was a lousy businessman and gave birth to the modern Democratic Party.

Pretty good writer, though....

Janet

. Obviously, I didn't let that stop me. :)

Hahaha, Porchlight! I am grateful for your bravery!

Extraneus

Via Instapundit:

Time for Warren Buffett and his Secretary to Release Their Personal Tax Returns

NK

MelR-- at the time of his death, Jefferson left debts that his progeny had to make good on, or good to debtor prison. Ah the good old days....

centralcal

How funny, Janet, Clarice, Porch . . .

I had never heard of this blog until early in the Libby matter when I clicked on some link that brought me here. Probably only read TM's blog posts the first few times, but cannot remember how I found the comment section.

Funny, it was the comment section that got me hooked. Nearly freaked out trying to set up a Typepad account (omg - what privacy was I imperiling?).

It was a year, I think, before I found out TopsecretK9 wasn't a male, retired FBI agent!

Good times, good times.

Janet

but couldn't figure out how to read the comments or post. HEH

There is a larger Luddite community out here than people realize.

A Casual Observation

I'm sure that Mitch Daniels checked with his wife and got her permission before he agreed to give the Republican response tonight.

bgates

Here's an antidote to the blathering that's going to be on tv later.

NK

.. go to debtor prison....

Argh.. someday I'll learn to type

bgates

How about some pre-blogging?

Obama comes out with that Obama-policy-eating grin. Points at several members of Congress. Biden tries to tap him on the shoulder and get his attention; looks like his crayon broke already. Obama isn't turning around.

Boehner has one for him.

daddy

If you can't handle listening to Obama tonight, you might consider listening to the sky snore in Borneo.

Borneo blames Alaska for making their sky snore:

Alaska's HAARP blamed for 'snoring' skies in Malaysia

hit and run

glasate:
One of our local TP leaders said at the last meeting that 20 million evangelicals did not vote in the '08 election.

But is it true?

In 2004, 121,480,019 votes were cast between Bush, Kerry and Nader. According to exit polls, 23% were white evangelical/born again -- or roughly 27,940,404 voters

In 2008, 125,225,901 votes were cast between McCain and Obama. According to exit polls, 26% were white evangelical/born again -- or roughly 32,558,734 voters.

Of course, 20M might have stayed home -- if 32.5M voted and 20M stayed home,that would be a roughly 58% participation rate,which sounds eminently reasonable. But I don't think that is the argument he was intending to make, nor would it be a sign that Rove had done any better at getting evangelicals out to vote.

I wonder if Jim Miller has looked at it more closely?

bgates

...and Boehner has to snatch the crayon back before Biden eats it.

Speaking of eating, Michelle has that grim predatory look she gets when she hasn't had a side of beef tossed into her room in a couple of hours. She's politely greeting her guests, though that ends when she finds out none of them brought any Rollos.

bgates

Here we go.

"Thanks to the efforts of my administration over the past three years, I am proud to report the state of our union is good."

Jackass.

centralcal

bgates: your mention of Michelle and her grim predatory look reminded me...

Did anyone see Shep Smith today (he is on during my lunch hour)? He went on and on and on and on about every detail of the WH lunch menu for the press today. It was totally embarrassing to listen to.

bgates

3 minutes in and he hasn't blamed George Bush for anything yet.

Dhinger McGee

Only an idiot would choose a businessman over a community organizer!!!!

How hard can it be to be a businessman? There are thousands of them. But do you even know any community organizers? Besides the one on Pennsylvania Avenue of course. Fewer = better. ALWAYS!!!

bgates

Criticizing Romney and Gingrich for changing their position on the individual mandate. That's characteristically hypocritical.

"Some say providing health care to all Americans is unconstitutional. As a Constitutional law professor, I am confident our Supreme Court will see things differently."

There's at least three things to hate about that passage, and that's not even counting the wink directed at (and returned by) Kagan.

Porchlight

Heh, Dhinger.

Sara

Jane and centralcal

There is missed and then there is missed.

And Jane, your live blogging is fun any time, but it is hilarious on I V morphine.

Just for the record, I did not miss my surgery either. For the second time, I stayed awake and watched the whole thing. I have probably confirmed once and for all that I am nuts, but it is my body and I like to know what is being done to it. They did as much as they could microscopically to cut down on the incisions and subsequent scarring. The doctors say that they consider the fix a complete success and have given me a very encouraging prognosis. I was really miserable last night, but woke up today and the first thing I noticed was no shoulder ache. The bicep hurts like hell where they rebroke the bone, but I know with bone breaks that intense pain is common the first week and then it will be okay. I'm told that the nerves are traumatized but as they settle down, the terrible tingling I have had in my hand will be gone. Right now, my hand has a mind of its own and just flops around like a rag doll. They gave me a squeeze ball to strengthen it, but I have so little grip right now, every time I try to use it, I lose it and it rolls across the floor and my dogs think it is play time.

I've figured out how to eat left-handed and use the computer. The one logistical problem to work out is how to get out of a chair. Because of my knee and back, I need my arms for leverage to push myself up. I don't know what I'm going to do if I have to use the bathroom and the kids aren't here.

daddy

Fiona the chunky host on CNN International just did an interview with some WaPo journalist about what to expect from tonights SOTU. Then she showed photos of Mitt and Newt, saying someone's Tax returns had been released, and then lampooning them with a quick snarky crack about were they "rich or creepy rich."

I switch over to the BBC. Their girl is in Davos, saying that one of the big questions the deep thinkers will be wrestling with in Davos is whether Capitalism is the right model for the 21st Century.

Gmax

How would those folks know in Davos? They might have some Adam Smith books, but Eutopia is not much about Capitalism and hasnt been for quite some time.

OldTimer

Thanks for that great antidote, bgates. I didn't appreciate Reagan enough when he was in office. I was politically naive and thought all presidents were men of stature and greatness. It eluded me that Carter was a total wreck because of his own ineptitude and leftist ideology. To me, the peanut farmer from Georgia seemed like a very nice man who just happened to be in office during a very bad economy.

I didn't open my eyes and come to my senses until Clinton took office. It was a very rude awakening.

daddy

JiB, Narciso

Finally somebody's doing some new drilling off the Florida Coast.

narciso

Very droll, daddy, and considering their safety record what could go wrong, Scarabeo;

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/24/rep-ted-poe-r-tx-pushes-ahead-on-the-xl-pipeline/#comments

centralcal

Sometimes there can be such a thing as too much information, Sara.

glasater

We have a break through....

Bill O'Reilly interviewing Beckle on his show did not fall for Beckle's red meat toss that oil speculators were causing the price of crude to rise.
In the past O'Reilly has always blamed traders for fluctuations in oil prices.

WarEagle82

So the preferred establishment candidate is weaker than imagined and Newt is proving Romney to be a horrible candidate with minimal appeal to voters.

So they want to dump Romney and find another RINO...

Anything to manipulate the election and electorate...

narciso

His lips were moving when he said this;


http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/24/hoyer-no-president-in-last-30-years-has-shown-a-willingness-to-compromise-as-president-obama-has/

Benjamin Franklin

Sara;

It must have been agonizing to type. I really pray this improves your mobility over the next months;

God Bless.

Benjamin Franklin

Where ya been, narco?

Florida Cubanos got you stumping for Gnoot?

matt

daddy;

I was trying to get my head around the idiotic statement by the president that abortion is all about equal rights and the Davos crisis of capitalism and the Charles Murray piece in Saturday's WSJ.

It really does boil down to a loss of faith and morals. Whether Obama or B of A or Corzine or Apple or Gingrich or Pelosi, the leadership class has been imposing a vision upon the world with no grounding in the ethical and moral conventions that have governed the West for the past 3,000 years. LUN

narciso

Really Michael you think that you'll fool Volodya with that;

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/24/obama-ambassador-to-russia-we-support-universal-values-not-american-values/#comment-483350

Melinda Romanoff

Apparently, those wizards of social media in the WH are going to respond to Twitter questions and comments during the speech. Via Insty, Bob Owens has sketched out some good questions on Fast & Furious. In the spirit of doing one's fair share, those who can might want to share some of those questions with those helpful WH strategists.

As in load it up like artillery.

Danube of Thought

I will not see or hear one second of this farce. We will watch either The Iron Lady or The Artist tonight, or simply read.

centralcal

Wonderful, DoT. Share your movie review with us if you watch either one, please.

Barbara

There is an excellent article by Victor Davis Hanson at PJMedia entitled, "The 2012 Election Circus - The Acts, The Players, The Hype. (See entire article at LUN)

Here is an excerpt:

There is a wish to cut and paste the flawed Republican candidates’ strengths into a composite nominee: Romney’s sobriety, Santorum’s conviction, Paul’s sense of outrage over debt, and Gingrich’s glib lectures about civilization—while pruning away their unique defects: Santorum’s self-righteousness, Paul’s otherworldliness, Romney’s Tom Dewey/George H.W. Bush patrician woodenness, and Newt’s tom-foolery.

Santorum and Paul cannot beat Obama. Romney is still the most likely to make it a close race; Gingrich possibly to win by a wider margin — or, more likely, to lose by an even wider one.

Holly

Is the SOTU on? I would deeply appreciate it if someone blogged the SOTU. Jane et al are my heroes.

Daddy, your 5:15 video brings to mind lots of fun memories for me. I have six grandkids, ranging in age from infants to 7 yrs, who are well-trained in the workings of airplanes. Every time I get on a plane with them, which I do quite frequently (I am determined to teach them all about Texas), the little darlin's love to tell me everything they know, particularly take-offs and landings. One of my fondest memories happened five years ago with my oldest grandson. We were traveling from DCA to DFW on a plane full of Georgetown basketball players and one of the players sitting behind us began to loudly taunt one of the coaches to explain what makes an airplane fly. My two-year old stood on his tiptoes to look back at him over the seat and promptly explained, "An airplane goes because it has Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow (and demonstrated with sound effects, of course) and then air goes over fast-fast (appropriate sound effects) while air goes under slooooow and haaaaard and zoom! airplane goes up, up up!"

The rest of the trip was pure raucus. Those guys had mucho fun with the Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow, making up raps, keeping it clean for my angel.

Watching the video, I could hear an excited little voice telling me all about it. :)

Old Lurker

JiB, the argument they made was that with a warrant, the police could break into a file cabinet, and they can also break the encryption of the hard drive. But they argued that providing the password was self incrimination and while they gave them the drive per the warrant, they did not have to unlock it. I know many are watching how this ends.

daddy

Good post Matt,

FWIW,

On Anderson Cooper's CNN show from a moment ago Roland the black guy was all about using the watchword "fairness, fairness, fairness." You called that one.

Paul Begala says to Anderson Cooper that he hopes the Prez says "Middle Class" many times tonight. Says he'll drink a beer every time he hears the words "Middle Class" tonight, and that he hopes by the time the speech is over he is stinking drunk.

David Gergen concludes"

This is an opportunity for the Pres to talk in front of a 40 million plus audience, much larger than any of the Repub's have had or will get. What the White House has done well is keeping Obama off the stage for the last 4 months so that he will come out looking fresh tonight.

Wolf, Gloria, Anderson, Candy Crowley etc are excited and almost gleeful. It would be impossible for any objective person to watch these guys and think they aren't pulling like hell for Obama.

Wolf already tells us "This will be an historic speech."

Sara

SEIU, Obama super-PAC team up to hit Romney in Spanish

SEIU and Obama plus $6 million ad buy by Newt's Super Pac all hitting at same time in Florida.

narciso

Considering JiB's review, it's dissapointing that Tin Tin wasn't nominated, in lieu of Scorsese's offering, (I think that is right)

Benjamin Franklin

Whatever he says, Obama can never do worse than the 2003 SOTU of 16 infamous words.

Enjoy the show, Iraq war proponents...btw, I won't ever let you forget; ever......ever.......ever

daddy

Good story Holly. Very fun.

"Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow" sounds like a description of CNN's News Team tonight, but glad to know it also works for airplanes:)

Danube of Thought

"So the preferred establishment candidate is..."

At this point I think it is fair to ask those who use the terms "establishment," "Duke & Duke" and "The Fnork" to identify by name the individuals who comprise those entities.

Let me go first: as one who uses "Fnork" regularly, I have no idea who are or are not its members. It is simply a Dark Force that can detrmine almost overnight who will be the Republican nominee. It seems to have no counterpart in the Democratic Party. And it seems to have frightened conservatives who do know its membership so badly that they dare not speak their names nor specify the source of its powers nor its manner of exercising those powers.

Now, somebody step forward and start naming names and identifying the powers of The Establishment and of Duke & Duke.

Jim Miller

daddy - A ringed seal -- probably the same ringed seal earlier spotted in the Duwamish -- was spotted Friday in Marysville, north of Seattle.

So it is headed in the right direction.

(There's a brief article, with a pic, in today's Seattle Tiems.)

Jane

Attention everyone! The bullet proof car has left the white house with its caravan of decoys, buses and prius's headed toward the capital.

HOw many legislators will have the guts to wear 1000 pins. How many will wear their golf pants. The suspense is killing me.

Will Joe Wilson yell out?

Will Alito even show up?

What is Buffet's secretary going to wear?

Jim Miller

Well, actually the Seattle Times.

(And I can't claim to be catching their typo problem from the newspaper, though I do see a few there from time to time.)

Jane

Here is the challange: drink on the word "fairness". If anyone is still standing at the end of the night they get a prize?

And how long will this monstrosity last?

Barbara
It is simply a Dark Force that can detrmine almost overnight who will be the Republican nominee. It seems to have no counterpart in the Democratic Party.

DoT,

I believe that there is a similar "Dark Force" or more likely a collaboration of forces in the Democratic Party. They are the same people who were able to dictate to Hillary Clinton that she would not challenge Obama's nomination at the convention. Her reward was that she was named Sec. of State.

centralcal

::whispering:: DoT: I think it is more secret than the Masons.

narciso

Cornyn, Sessions, Madden, Murphy, Feherty, Mackowoniak, Gillespie, Ross (of Delaware)
whoever the poobah is in NY, Rove, Cicconi,
those are just names that come up, mining the National Journal's Insider poll.

Janet

Wonderful post, Matt. "...lectured by the president on “fairness”. Every time I hear that term I know the system is once again being gamed. Fairness is equal treatment under the law. Fairness is equal opportunity."

It made me mindful of this Dennis Prager video on social justice.

daddy

For the last 30 minutes I've had CNN on. In their build up to the SOTU I have not heard a single negative comment about President Obama or his leadership or the economy or the state of the country.

I have heard multiple negative comments by just about every talking head about Republicans in general, Mitt, Newt, the candidates and Congress in general---but about Obama, not a one. Apparently the Prez has done no wrong at CNN, or if he has, you can't bring it up.

They did let Ari Fleischer get in about 40 seconds to try to state the Repub case 30 minutes ago but thats about it.

daddy

Okay, coming up any minute, The State of The Class Warfare Speech".

Jane

new thread

clarice feldman

I love the golf pants suggestion.

Holly

Hmmm, never thought about it like that. SSBB is serious stuff to aerospace engineers who design airplane engines and I usually tune it out because it is sooo boring to me, but you have given me reason to take a fresh look at the concept. Yup, it's good. I like it. In fact, if I were in the mood for a wretched head-banging SOTU, I'm sure there would be some serious SSBB spewing from POTUS.

Captain Hate

What, exactly, was the RNC to do for her? Give her money? She quit her job as governor, and since that moment has not held or been a candidate for any public office.

Since they did nothing for a sitting governor, I think I can pretty safely say that whatever support, legal or otherwise, they could've provided would've been preferable to the big fat nothingburger they served up. Why don't you just come clean and say that you consider all conservative women pols to be worthless cunts; because you hold them in such obvious disdain that you don't have to read much between the lines to see that. Whether it's Palin or O'Donnell, you just swallow the bullshit that the MFM or assholes like Rove put out with no consideration for your erstwhile hero Reagan's admonishment to speak no evil about a fellow Republican. Or wasn't he talking about them?

software consultant

nice post, thanks for sharing this with us

glasater

Hit, I'm so sorry I missed your earlier comment and question.

I will track down the lady TP leader to find out where she got the info on 20 mil evangelicals not voting in '08.

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