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February 23, 2012

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Danube of Thought

First.

MarkO

1-A

MarkO

We've got to get lives, DoT. Seriously. You beat me 2-1 today. Where's my horse?

DrJ

OT, but speaking of Mormons:

Huntsman Corp. has appointed Jon M. Huntsman Jr. to its board. He is the son of the company's founder and the brother of its CEO, Peter R. Huntsman. Jon Huntsman Jr., who once served as the company's vice chairman, recently dropped his bid to become U.S. president.

No nepotism there! And it is an eeeevil chemical company!

MarkO

Jon went out of his way to renounce any affiliation with the Mormons. But, that's not what made DoT's skin crawl.

Danube of Thought

Let me pose the unaskable question: could a white man as stupid as Charles Blow have a column in published regularly in the New York Times?

narciso

Well Mike Barnicle, sort of works for the Times, at the Globe, next question.

MarkO

Of course not. Could I start in the NBA?

jimmyk

Does anybody anywhere think Blow will be asked to address either the Mormon slur or the woeful sociology?

Hard to imagine any Mormons getting the vapors over this and playing the victim card Al Sharpton-style. I mean, it's Charles Blow we're talking about. So if they don't press charges, Charlie walks.

Evidently, how one takes the message depends on the messenger.

That's got to be one of the ten commandments for the MSM. You'd think they could be caught by giving them a statement and insisting they comment on it without knowing who made it.

MarkO

Rev. Graham up next on Gretta. He needs to do some old fashioned tent shows and heal some folks before he has street cred. I used to watch Oral Roberts in the '50's when he would bring a deaf man up to the front, slap him silly and restore his hearing. That was change I could believe in.

Danube of Thought

Maybe there's a chink in Blow's armor now.

MarkO

You are being niggardly.

Rick Ballard

"could a white man as stupid as Charles Blow have a column in published regularly in the New York Times?"

Two for starters - FriedKrugman.

Danube of Thought

"Could I start in the NBA?"

Start what? I think you could handle the clock, for instance. I myself could start screening the Laker Girls.

Mad Jack

It's a pretty shallow pool over at the Times, DOT. They are a rainbow of stupidity.

MarkO

I was so happy until I realized there was an "l" in that word. I have loved the Laker girls from the days of the Fabulous Forum.

Captain Hate

Could anybody squander as much of a fortune as Pinch? He probably makes AI look like a relative success although I'm sure he has a hefty personal nest egg.

Rick Ballard

We should do a word[s] association test on "New York Times columnist".

I'll take Dueling Banjos

narciso

I remember when W asked Pinch, how he got his start in life,

Mad Jack

Rick: Looks like Zero's internal polling data is telling him that gas prices are going to cost him big and he can't do anything about them so he is going to try and demagogue the issue. I wonder what he'll do when your Feb (un)employment numbers come in!

(Another) Barbara

I eagerly await our outrage over Charles Blow's tweet.

Tough.

Danube of Thought

I'll take "Upper West Side."

narciso

Well he's not going for the 'inflating tires' scam, he's moved on to 'algae cars.

Dave (in MA)
Well Mike Barnicle, sort of works for the Times, at the Globe, next question.
Not since 1998. My boston.com comments section avatar: My "about" info links to my cancel my subscription letter that I sent when the Times was spilling security secrets in an effort to harm Bush.
Danube of Thought

See LUN for an Act of Valor review.

narciso

Sorry about that, the Daily News, which despite some exceptions, is a 'den of scum and villainy' and the Herald hired him as well.

Of course, the irony is the same tactics, that
the excoriated Bush for, were used to find Bin Laden,

Mad Jack

Thanks Narciso. My brother sent me a text earlier this evening asking if I had any algae stock. Didn't know wtf he was talking about. Now I know. Yikes.

Dave (in MA)

The "algae cars" reminds me of when Pee-wee Dukakis was telling struggling fly-over state farmers that they should grow Belgian endive, or Jughead's own 'arugula' remarks from the '08 campaign.

Frau Misgeburt

From his malicious attacks on religion and religious (Republican) politicians, it is clear that Charles Blow was separated at birth from Cleo.

Clarice

wa Po reports in astonishment that Santorum's gaining support among women voters.http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rick-santorum-winning-more-support-from-republican-women/2012/02/22/gIQAPDJjWR_story.html

You mean not all women are NOW members? I'll be.

Mad Jack

The Duke and belgian endive came to my mind as well, Dave. Must be something those of us who suffered all those years with that pompous idiot as Gov will never forget.

Rick Ballard

MadJack,

A little caution is in order. The Vampire Squid countered the Great White (JPM) $120 call with an $107 October call. Supply and demand has nothing to do with the price (outside of Russia-OPEC ratcheting down production) and Mel's hot money thesis is now a bit of a grudge match.

It would be lots of fun to watch the Great White bite off a tentacle every few days going forward. They polished off MF Global too quickly. The Vampire Squid has earned hanging, drawing and eighthing and there's no sense rushing through it.

Frau Misgeburt

I'm outraged, (A)B, and I'm not religious. I am, however, glad that I live in a country founded on Judeo-Christian teachings and values.

It's a crime that Mr. Blow has three children to misinform: "Train up a child in the way he shall go and when he is old he will not depart from it."
MLK weeps

Captain Hate

The "algae cars" reminds me of when Pee-wee Dukakis was telling struggling fly-over state farmers that they should grow Belgian endive

And people wonder why Kitty was doing shots by noon.

narciso

So they are doing Lehman's Morse play, but that's a long call, October, has someone 'turned those machines on' at Solomon's Phibro' division,

Captain Hate

The nicest thing I'll say about Blow is that he seems to be more involved with his bastard offspring than Shakedown Jackson.

Danube of Thought

"And people wonder why Kitty was doing shots by noon"

And then she got into the Mennen's Skin Bracer and vanilla extract.

Clarice

Philadelphia Inquirer

"A Franklin and Marshall College poll released Thursday gave Santorum a nearly 30-point lead over Romney among Pennsylvania Republicans - a far cry from what some expected in a state that tossed the senator out on his ear in 2006 with an embarrassing 18-point rout.

The poll conducted Feb. 14 to 20, which had a margin of error of plus or minus 5.9 percentage points, found that 22 percent of GOP voters here were undecided.

"There's a growing support here, like nationally, for someone like Rick - someone who wasn't Pennsylvania's top choice in December," said James Lee, president of Susquehanna Polling & Research. "I think a lot of Pennsylvanians are giving him a second look."

Key to Santorum's Pennsylvania push will be the Lehigh Valley and Philadelphia suburbs, seen as his weakest points of support in the state. In recent weeks, backers in those areas have hosted fund-raising dinners hoping to give voters a fresh take on their former senator."

Clarice

Hot Air

Update (Allahpundit): Speaking of losing on your home turf, I’m thinking this might finish Newt off if it happens:

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich leads the pack in the first Rasmussen Reports survey of the Republican Primary race in his home state of Georgia. A new telephone survey of Likely Georgia Republican Primary Voters shows Gingrich with 33% support, followed by former Senator Rick Santorum at 28%. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney runs third with 20% of the vote, and Texas Congressman Ron Paul trails with nine percent (9%).

Georgia is one of three southern states scheduled for Super Tuesday, but Newt’s not on the ballot in one of the others (Virginia) so he needs to win at home and in Tennessee to prove that he’s still a regional force. If Santorum bumps him off in his home state, it’s hard to see why he’d go forward. All it would do is help Romney by siphoning off conservative votes from Sweater Vest and there’s no reason for Newt to want to do that.

Danube of Thought

Best description I've seen of PA is Philly in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama everywhere in between.

Mad Jack

I'll defer to your wisdom on the matter of the Squid(Goldman I presume) vs the Great White. It's like the Iran - Iraq war. Hope they both lose.

narciso

Ay, Dios mio, or 'lord love a duck'


http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/212243-dnc-head-wasserman-schultz-slams-gop-on-energy-ahead-of-obama-speech

Dave (in MA)

Insty has a nice link to a video where Mayonnaise-Head complains about having to pay $3/gal for gas in '05. http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/137711/

Clarice

Nevertheless, DoT, their votes count.

Danube of Thought

Can't make this shit up:

"Slovaks have been voting overwhelmingly in favour of naming a new pedestrian and cycling bridge near their capital after 1980s US action film and TV star Chuck Norris.

"The two other top names in the running for the bridge, which will span the Morava river and cross the border to Austria, were Maria Theresa after an Austro-Hungarian empress and the Devinska cycling bridge in honour of the closest village.

"Norris, a martial arts expert-turned film star, is known for playing tough guy characters in such movies as Lone Wolf McQuade, Missing in Action and The Delta Force.

"The actor's work has become a popular source of kitschy fun among Slovaks and a mainstay for local jokes about macho strength and invincibility."

narciso

Yes, this was unexpected, not;

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/lstranahan/2012/02/23/writers-guild-gives-anti-law-enforcement-film-better-this-world-screenplay-award/

Captain Hate

DoT there's a reason I refer to it as Pennsyltucky.

Some commentors @ AoS from the Keystone state have explained Santorum's Senate loss as just being caught up in the perfect storm of 2006 that Rove's defenders like to pretend never happened. They assure me that nobody with an R after his name could've won then; hopefully the opposite will happen in November.

narciso

Well it's not like the 1984-85 season of Dallas, it actually happened, I remember back when Hewitt's show was still audible, how Rove
was talking of the ground game, that was just
ready to go 'voom' just like the Norwegian Blue

Clarice

As I recall, CH, that is what happened. Murtha was using his ill-gotten pelf to gain re-election and the anti war crowd was at full throttle...

Captain Hate

Yeah that permanent majority through compassionate conservatism worked out well. I wish Hewitt was inaudible here. I heard that idiot telling Rick Perry some garbage about how lucky he was that Texas didn't play the cheating Dorkeyes in football. This from somebody who never went to O$U (rather went to Meeeechigan) and lives in Cali. I wish Perry hadn't been such a gentleman in dealing with that annoying imbecile. And I wish I could send lethal rays through my car radio.

Rick Ballard

Mad Jack,

The folks at the Great White are still a bit miffed at Paulson for ramming TARP money down their throat to cover up the fact that the Vampire Squid was broke. Especially after the $150 call the Vampire Squid made in the spring '08 that was as meritless as the current $120 call. In one sense, the $150 call put BOzo in the Oval Office.

Just remember as this unfolds, there is no supply problem. Not now and not for as far as anyone can see.

Danube of Thought

I think that at this point I should confess that most of the time I have absolutely no idea what Rick is talking about.

There! I've said it!

narciso

Saw this story, was h/t by our very own Janet;

http://freebeacon.com/public-radio-pay-to-play/

narciso

Let me give it a go, Treasury Secretary Paulson former CEO of Goldman, the Vampire Squid, floated the TARP
to cover their bad bet on oil,

narciso

Sorry, missed the byline, Clarice;

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/02/23/pro-iranian-ploughshares-and-nprpaying-to-play/

Clarice

niters..

Danube of Thought

"floated the TARP to cover their bad bet on oil"

Who made the bad bet, and how? How would TARP have "covered" it? Can any of this be proved or disproved, or must we simply accept that the players were motivated by bad faith or stupidity?

If we must, what were those who were in good faith and wise counseling at the time? Who are they?

SWarren

Watched WDIV Local 4 Detroit's Devon Scillian present his prerecorded interviews with the four candidates. Afterwards he talked to WDIV's pollster out of Chicago who said in their latest projection, looks like Santorum could take 9 of our 14 Congressional districts.

abad man

DOT,

Good point, how can we tell who acted in good faith? Even the republican canidates appear to be playing by a different set of rules then the rest of us. Mainstream media is certainly no help figuring things out. Vote Republican you will be less boned is hardly a rallying cry


narciso

How many scams did we see of Goldman and other firms, betting against their subprime holdings,

Ralph L

Alabama everywhere in between
I don't think Pennsylvania allows black people to live west of Philly, so the rest isn't quite like Alabama.

My belly button is red and itchy tonight. Any advice?

Elliott

I thought initially those three lines of Blow were enough, but I've reconsidered now that TM has supplied a fresh highlight:

CAN'T MAKE THIS UP: Was it really only two weeks ago that Charles Blow led a column with "Twitter claims another casualty"?!?

:: Snort ::

daddy

Great post TM.

Jack is Back!

daddy,

How'd the visit to The Bull Temple go?

Chubby

Blow's angry reaction is very interesting. In the left's eyes, the right is not allowed to use dire social statistics to advocate against the left. The left thinks it has exclusive claim to those statistics to use as a hammer on the "1%" and evil capitalism. The right's arguments are seen as a threat because they are more grounded in reality and common sense and offer substantial solutions. But no! no! no! that cat must not get out of the bag!!!

As a side benefit, we will see the true stuff that Mitt is made of as these firestorms arise.

Janet

The Bull Temple

That could be a new name for the DNC/MFM propaganda complex.

Chubby

((Just remember as this unfolds, there is no supply problem. Not now and not for as far as anyone can see))

but the perception of a supply problem can wreak temporary havoc on the markets almost as much as an actual supply problem. In the short term, the markets are not just not that smart.

Chubby

hahaha! Janet. Love your quick wit!

they certainly do have a lot of sacred cows

Rick Ballard

The Vampire Squid's bad bet was having AIG manufacture the CDS suicide vest insuring their MBS games. The TARP money (plus Buffets "investment") were used to paper over the hole created by their error. They weren't the only Too Big to Fail enterprise which should have died in October of '08 but the $150 call on oil and the contango set up to facilitate maintenance of the illusion of scarcity was, IMO, a trigger for the general collapse which ensued.

TARP was designed to obscure the fact that some TBTF companies should have died, been dismembered and redistributed through the normal BK process while some had managed their risk exposure and could have survived. GS and Citi should have died, JPM would have survived.

AliceH

When we say it, it's because we're mean spirited, judgmental, and want to shove our values down their throats.

When they say it, it's because they really really care.

See? No hypocrisy. Nothing to see here. Move along.

AliceH

The medium is the message.

centralcal

With a name like Blow and (in a photo I saw) a large bulbous nose, you would think this *sshole would be more careful in his remarks.

Byron York has an article today that is quite depressing, yet I feel, accurate in its assessment. I know I experienced exactly what he describes with the last debate.

Sour Race Heads to Michigan

If you're a party trying to build enough enthusiasm to take back the White House, it's never a good idea to alienate your own county chairmen so much that they won't even watch your debates. But that is the situation as the increasingly sour Republican race moves to Michigan.
Porchlight

I'm not fond of "Pennsyltucky" and the Alabama reference wrt PA. Those are way too close to the "bitter clingers" and "flyover country" type snobbish attitudes we've come to expect from the left.

Clarice

On the other hand:http://freebeacon.com/column-the-sloppy-incumbent/

Janet

Amen, Porchlight.

centralcal

From Twitter, Byron York mentioning the Blow blowback posts these stats:

Byron York ‏ @ByronYork
Gallup found attitudes toward Mormons remarkably unchanged over time. In 2011, 76% overall said they would vote for Mormon for president…

5m Byron York Byron York ‏ @ByronYork
Last year Gallup found 27% of Democrats said they wouldn't vote for a Mormon, while 18% of Republicans and 19% of Independents said same.

He says it is basically unchanged from 1967 (75% would vote for a Mormon for President).

Doesn't seem to be the really big problem people think, except among Democrats.

Jane

What i wouldn't pay to see Obama's teleprompter break down.

centralcal

I am really liking Free Beacon, Clarice.

Did you all see a few days ago that Bill Kristol's daughter married Matt Continetti (the Editor of Free Beacon and a columnist with Weekly Standard)?

Janet

Is this the Rush call that Ann told us about?

Rush referred to Cathy as “the most glittering jewel of colossal ignorance”

centralcal

Yes it is, Janet!!! I am a Rush member but was unable to link it for everyone else to see. So glad you found a linkable one.

centralcal

What i wouldn't pay to see Obama's teleprompter break down.

Actually it has a time or two Jane, and the results weren't pretty. I am sure if you google it you will find examples of him becoming a blathering idiot without his TOTUS.

Jane

Clarice,

The column made my (so far) very short day.

CC, I think the pessimism is an Obama plot. They want us to concentrate on how screwed up the republicans are. As far as I'm concerned, every republican candidate is a finely oiled machine next to the joke that occupies PA Avenue.

Clarice

I didn't see that,cc, but Continetti is always great and I agree the Free Beacon is good. I almost always find good stuff there.

Neo

Over the last 35 years, our economy has almost tripled in size, but, according to the United States Census Bureau, the number of Americans living below the poverty line has been stuck at roughly 1 in 8.

At the end of last year, poverty in America was back to where it was when LBJ started all those wonderful 'Great Society' programs.

I really don't know the government definition of the 'poverty line' but for years I have strongly suspected that it was some sort of 'moving goal post' with a definition of some thing like 'roughly 1 in 8.'

jimmyk

Wow, the fnork on the warpath at the WSJ--two columns by ladies getting the vapors over the specter of a Santorum nomination: Strassel and Rabinowitz.

AliceH

I really don't know the government definition of the 'poverty line' but for years I have strongly suspected that it was some sort of 'moving goal post' with a definition of some thing like 'roughly 1 in 8.'

Got it in one.

jimmyk

I really don't know the government definition of the 'poverty line' but for years I have strongly suspected that it was some sort of 'moving goal post' with a definition of some thing like 'roughly 1 in 8.'

It's definitely a squishy concept. I'm pretty sure it ignores "in-kind" transfers like food stamps, subsidized housing, etc. Never mind the fact that people at the poverty line are probably at the 90th percentile worldwide in standard of living.

GMAX

Gallup found 27% of Democrats said they wouldn't vote for a Mormon,(UNLESS the Mormon happened to have a D after their name on the ballot ).

Fixed that part for ya, you're welcome

GMAX

The United States is one of the only places on the planet where the "poor" are statistically fatter than the overall public. Nearly all the "poor" have big screen tvs, and even more have cell phones. For all intents and purposes we need a new word, poor in Haiti is most definitely not what poor mean in the USA.

centralcal

Here you go, Clarice:

Anne Kristol and Matthew Continetti

narciso

Considering the function they serve, it's not terribly surprising;

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/females-on-campaign-trail-get-sexy_b65740

centralcal

Weekly Standard has linked to the Send in the Clowns thread. Congrats, TM - you've been getting noticed a lot lately.

NK

TomM-- great post. Blow is a fool and a bigot. If if we've reached the point where you can call out a black man publicly for being a fool and a bigot, we've made some progress in 30 years. Pinch destroyed the NYT brand with his Left-Wing journalism, but in addition to that he destroyed the professionalism at the Times. 1968-1985 when I read the NYT 7 days a week, it was extremely well written. The last 15 years it's been unreadable, not just the message but the writing and editing. I chalk that up to Pinch's 'affirmative action ' hires.

Porchlight

We have the richest poor people in the world - and not only that, our poor have a higher standard of living than most rich people in history. I mentioned to a lib friend the other day that all Americans today are part of the worldwide 1% and she said "wow, I never thought of it that way." Shocker.

The left is now reduced to using "access to healthcare" and "participation in reduced-price lunch programs" or "food anxiety" as definitions of poverty in order to maximize their numbers.

NK

Neo -- you make a good point at 08:28. 2 things explain the long-term poverty level. 1. 'welfare' programs 1964- 1996 that created a generational underclass (Pat Moynahan warned about that happening in the 1960s), and 2. Mass Immigration since the 1970s. Immigrants come to the US poor, so they show up in poverty rates -- the question is will they advance economically as in prior mass immigration periods, or will become a new generational underclass?

NK

TomM-- is Blow a hypocrit? Nah, he's probably just and ignorant BS artist.

Porchlight

the question is will they advance economically as in prior mass immigration periods, or will become a new generational underclass?

Some of each, I imagine. Same goes for Blow - he is both a hypocrite and an ignorant BS artist.

AliceH

The left is now reduced to using "access to healthcare" and "participation in reduced-price lunch programs" or "food anxiety" as definitions of poverty in order to maximize their numbers.

The sad (or is it despicable?) thing is, there actually are Americans living in real poverty, but having stretched the operative definition to include those whose paychecks fall short of affording ALL the cable channels, the ones who really do need help may as well be invisible.

Extraneus

Dad hit son for not watching Obama SOTU recording

Mohamed Shohan, 49, of 55 Mather Road, Stamford, was charged with third-degree assault, disorderly conduct and risk of injury to a child. He was released after posting $5,000 bond and will be arraigned on the charges at state Superior Court in Stamford Thursday.

Youth Bureau Sgt. Joseph Kennedy said police were made aware of the assault Jan. 27 when the youth was brought to Stamford Hospital for treatment of an injury to his face. When police interviewed the 11-year-old boy, he told them the two sat down at home to watch the address the day after his father recorded it, Kennedy said.

When the boy kept acting out, the father lost his temper and grabbed a coffee mug his son was holding and hit him in the face with it, causing a bruise to the bridge of his nose, it is alleged.

Chubby

Rick,

((IMO, a trigger for the general collapse which ensued.))

I've never been able to settle on what the specific catalyst was ...

I find it "ironic" that QE3 will be happening in harmony with Obama's re-election year. Markets up will surely help him?

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