Obama Has Changed?

Richard Stevenson of the Ministry of Truth explains that Obama has evolved in office; he offers two examples from this week, but one is utterly unconvincing.

The thesis:

But as his handling of two controversial decisions this week showed, there is little doubt that he is different, changed by three years in the White House in ways that speak to fundamental questions about him among both his supporters and his critics.

If Mr. Obama was naïve back when he began his presidential run five years ago Friday, as many Republicans asserted during the 2008 campaign, he is a lot less so now. If he aspired to post-partisanship when he took the oath of office, as many of his admirers hoped, he is much more openly combative and political now. If he thought then that he could change how Washington works – a proposition viewed skeptically, to say the least, by many experienced people in both parties — he has opted, for now, to play by its existing rules.

And the first example:

The most recent manifestations of Mr. Obama’s more prosaic approach came this week with his shift in course on a crucial element of his campaign fund-raising and his handling of the backlash against his policy on insurance coverage for contraception.

In the first case, he abandoned his long-held position against steering his campaign contributors to friendly “super PACs,” the outside groups whose vast expenditures on negative advertising are reshaping politics. Faced with the choice of running for re-election armed with a principle or with potentially millions more dollars to help offset the current Republican advantage in the super PAC wars, he set aside the principle, prompting quiet cheers from party operatives and expressions of outrage from advocates of tighter campaign finance controls.

Hello!  This is the guy who had been in favor of public financing for years, until he had an advantage over John McCain in 2008 and opted out of public funding.  From the linked story:

The decision comes four years after Mr. Obama became the first presidential candidate since the Watergate era to turn down public financing and the accompanying spending limits, allowing him to raise $750 million for his 2008 campaign.

Back in 2008 the Times had more coverage and even inveighed against Obama's reversal of a long-espoused view.  But now Obama's latest "show me the money" shift is a surprising reversal illustrating his reluctant embrace of Washington's evil ways, or something. Please.

Comments

[rse]

Did the Pres of CPAC really propose Jeb?

First. !!

[Clarice]

TM, If Pinch were smarter, I'd suggest you hire a bodyguard. OTOH it is fish/barrel, isn't it?

[daddy]

I see that Jane has been joined at her CPAC twitter table by Sandy Daze and Wendy Daze

Does that ring any bells amongst you World War 2 music fans?

Here, Try this, and see if it jogs the cat feces parasite out of your noggin's.

"Sandy Daze and Wendy Daze and Malaysia Jane a-tweeting...
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?"

Did that help?

Try this: Mairzy Doats.

And according to Wiki:

"Mairzy Doats is a novelty song composed in 1943...One of the writers, Milton Drake, says the song is based on an English nursery rhyme. According to this story, Drake's four-year-old daughter came home singing:

"Cowzy tweet and sowzy tweet and liddle sharksy doisters."

(Cows eat wheat and sows eat wheat and little sharks eat oysters.)

That morphed into:

"Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?

However, the lyrics of the bridge provide a clue:
If the words sound queer and funny to your ear, a little bit jumbled and jivey,

Sing "Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy."
With this aid, the refrain is quite easily comprehended, and the ear will detect the hidden message of the final line: "A kid'll eat ivy too, wouldn't you"

Simply substitute in:

"Sandy Daze and Wendy Daze and Malaysia Jane a-tweeting...
A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?"

I would. But not cilantro:(

[Jack is Back!]

daddy,

I think its Windy Daze not Wendy.

God willing and the creek don't rise I am going to try and do the cruise and CPAC in the next 12 months. Impressed by bith Jane and Sandy's coverage. Even checked in today at the theater watching the 3D version of Star Wars Episode 1The Phantom Menace.

[Mad Jack]

It's like they live in an alternate universe where up is down and the sun rises in the west.

[hit and run]

If you face south in the morning and north in the evening,the sun always rises and sets to your left.

[Extraneus]

thi sweek

I see that TM has taken up daddy's challenge.

[Mad Jack]

Did you work at the Times, Hit? :-)

[Sara]

Romney wins in Maine 39%
Paul 36%
Santorum 18%
Gingrich 6%

[Ignatz]

--Richard Stevenson of the Ministry of Truth--

I sense a theme developing in TM's posts.

[centralcal]

Byron York @ByronYork
Maine 2008 GOP caucus results: Romney 52%, McCain 22%, Paul 18%, Huckabee 6%. Today: Romney 39%, Paul 36%, Santorum 18%; Gingrich 6%.

[Extraneus]

The decision comes four years after Mr. Obama became the first presidential candidate since the Watergate era to turn down public financing and the accompanying spending limits

Nice gratuitous Nixon slap. There wasn't any such thing before the "Watergate era," or an FEC before 1974.

The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) of 1972 required candidates to disclose sources of campaign contributions and campaign expenditures. It was amended in 1974 with the introduction of statutory limits on contributions, and creation of the Federal Election Commission (FEC).

This is cute, too.

Occupy movement-inspired constitutional amendments

In response to the Occupy Wall Street protests and the worldwide occupy movement calling for U.S. campaign finance reform eliminating corporate influence in politics, among other reforms, Representative Ted Deutch introduced the "Outlawing Corporate Cash Undermining the Public Interest in our Elections and Democracy" (OCCUPIED) constitutional amendment on November 18, 2011.[22][23] The OCCUPIED amendment would outlaw the use of for-profit corporation money in U.S. election campaigns and give Congress and states the authority to create a public campaign finance system.[24] Unions and non-profit organizations will still be able to contribute to campaigns.[25] On November 1, 2011, Senator Tom Udall also introduced a constitutional amendment in Congress to reform campaign finance which would allow Congress and state legislatures to establish public campaign finance.[26] Two other constitutional campaign finance reform amendments were introduced in Congress in November, 2011.[27] Similar amendments have been advanced by Dylan Ratigan,[28] Karl Auerbach,[29] Cenk Uygur,[30] and others.[31][32]

The "worldwide occupy movement" called for U.S. campaign finance reform eliminating corporate influence in politics? I knew they were big on eliminating.

[daddy]

Henry and Melinda,

No luck poring thru those handwritten thousands of cards.

If anyone knows how to enter the following 2 names and see if by chance they came up in the Wisconsin Recall signatures list I would be much obliged, as it is a rip-roaring topic here in the ADN today.

The names of the perps are:

Erin Pohland

Skye Rubadeau McRoberts

I do see how much effort it must take to go thru those handwritten cards 1 by 1, so many thanks to Caro (and I think Henry) for volunteering to do that.

Off with the dogs. Nice game MarkO. Ughh.

[centralcal]

From BuzzFeed:

And at least in terms of reception, she did win today. Palin's speech got the biggest reaction of any at CPAC -- much more so than any of the presidential candidates. The audience gave her standing ovation after standing ovation and some even yelled "Run Sarah run!" -- more telling of the GOP field's inability to connect with voters than any poll.

[MarkO]

Sorry, daddy. This one was not luck, however.

My dad had been a professional musician in the '30's playing across the country in dance bands. He taught me Mairzy Doats and I proceeded to confound my grade school classmates with my verbal wizardry. Later, I played weddings in his dance band. Lucky boy was I.

[Sara]

The overwhelming choice as the VP candidate by the CPAC attendees is Marco Rubio, followed by Chris Christie, Gov. Bob McDonnell, and Paul Ryan.

[Extraneus]

If Mr. Obama was naïve back when he began his presidential run five years ago Friday, as many Republicans asserted during the 2008 campaign, he is a lot less so now.

Is that what they asserted? That he was naïve?

If he aspired to post-partisanship when he took the oath of office, as many of his admirers hoped, he is much more openly combative and political now. If he thought then that he could change how Washington works – a proposition viewed skeptically, to say the least, by many experienced people in both parties — he has opted, for now, to play by its existing rules.

Aw. Poor admirers. The must be so disappointed that "he is much more openly combative and political now."

Come on.

Faced with the choice of running for re-election armed with a principle or with potentially millions more dollars to help offset the current Republican advantage in the super PAC wars, he set aside the principle

Honestly, who buys this idiotic b.s.? Do Times readers?

[mockmook]

Romney wins in Maine 39%
Paul 36%
Santorum 18%
Gingrich 6%

Posted by: Sara | February 11, 2012 at 06:53 PM

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Sara, did you post the results of the Colorado caucuses?

BTW, did you know that Romney tortures his dog on the top of his car?

[glasater]

Does this mean Obama will accept matching funds in this election?

[Not Sara]

Sara, Marco Rubio has avowed that he will not run--so where does that leave Romney??
Also, I do not believe that Paul Ryan will run--McDonnell and Christie are there waiting to be called. Do you think either of them will help Romney in his support?

[mockmook]

USWNT wins a thriller in TX 2-1

[RichatUF]

glasater-

And still blow through the limits. Did the FEC ever get the remaining commissioners? His courtier press is already lieing for him. It is going to be a long campaign.

[Not Sara]

Extraneus--Yes.

[Thomas Collins]

The oats song reminds me of another oldie, which I hope will be appropriate when the mess Corzine created for his customers is sorted out.

Who's sorry now,
Who's sorry now,
I tried to warn you somehow,
You had your way,
Now you must pay,
I'm glad that you're sorry now.

[Ignatz]

A short entertaining piece by Matt Labash on their dinner with Ayers and Dohrn.
I think more of Tucker Carlson now knowing he hunts and fishes, not things I would have expected of the apple cheeked, peach fuzz chinned, bow tie sporter.

[Not Sara]

I grew up singing Mares eats oats.

[Sara]

Sara, Marco Rubio has avowed that he will not run--so where does that leave Romney??
Also, I do not believe that Paul Ryan will run--McDonnell and Christie are there waiting to be called. Do you think either of them will help Romney in his support?

All I'm doing is posting the results. I think the question should be, where does that leave the CPAC activists, as they are the ones who selected Rubio by about 70%.

I was impressed with McDonnell's CPAC speech, but that is the first time I've really heard him. I am surprised at the Christie 2nd place as I don't think of him as conservative at all. Romney really likes Paul Ryan and mentions him in nearly every speech, so who knows. I think Ryan also said he wasn't interested at this time.

[Not Sara]

Well, the CPAC activists will just have to get over it. Rubio is not running nor is Paul Ryan. I think Christie and McDonnell would jump at the chance, and I do not think either of them will bring Romney to a win against Obama. At this time, Romney needs all the help he can get.

[Thomas Collins]

If Mittster wins the nomination and asks Rubio or Ryan or Christie to be his running mate, any of those folks will accept, in my opinion. I don't take any politician's disavowals of interest in a running mate slot seriously.

[Not Sara]

Well, TC, I think Rubio will not accept. No need to attach ones self to a losing horse.

[MarkO]

"attach ones self to a losing horse"

Exh. A. I rest my case. Further affiant sayeth naught.

[Captain Hate]

Congrats to Mark on the Duke win today; I wasn't surprised because they're the better team. I like our chances in the future though.

Playing ball this morning, some young kid showed up who could take it to the rack and dunk it and drain the three. He was a pretty good kid so rather than it making me feel like a fossil it was just fun being on the same court with him. The guys I play with are a pretty good mix of ages and getting some young blood in is always a win/win.

I'm celebrating DoT's birthday with Ommegang Hennepin, a farmhouse saison. Ommegang is a Cooperstown, NY brewery that was bought by the Belgian brewery Duvel about 5 years ago. They reviewed all their brews and Hennepin was the only one that they made some changes to so, in effect, it's a Belgian that you get at domestic prices (although those are kind of a wash these days). So, it may not be a martini, but this one's for you DoT.

[Ignatz]

--No need to attach ones self to a losing horse.--

The list of otherwise sensible men who have done just that is nearly endless, whether in politics, at the track or in romance.

[glasater]

Rich, I think you are correct.

I would think Mitt would need someone with some Foreign Policy cred like Bolton.
As is said over and over people don't vote for the VP slot.

[Sara]

MockMock:

I don't remember if I posted the results or someone else did. I vaguely remember some discussion. Why, what does Colorado have to do with today anyway?

As to the dog, he was in a perfectly safe carrier and one he jumped into eagerly and it was 29 years ago. What are you, Mr. Peta? It certainly wasn't torture and a whole lot safer than having a dog riding in the back of a pickup truck.

[Thomas Collins]

Well, Not Sara, I don't think it's that clear that the GOP candidate is a losing horse. In fact, I am more inclined to give the GOP a chance to win the POTUSey now than I was a couple of months ago. Obama's poll numbers haven't improved as much as I thought they would with the latest ersatz economic recovery. In any event, see LUN for my Veep choice for the GOP. I think the LUNed lady will play well in the Southwest and Mountain West, and will also, I bet, be popular with the working class folks in Pennsylvania.

[glasater]

Well, except for Sarah of course. My better half and I were blubbering during and after her tremendous speech at CPAC.

[Captain Hate]

As is said over and over people don't vote for the VP slot.

I pretty much did in 2008 and I suspect others did too. I would've held my nose and voted for McRINO otherwise but I'd have gone home and scrubbed myself with a steel brush and Lysol and donned a hair shirt for the rest of the day.

[Thomas Collins]

Whoops! Let's try LUNing again.

[Clarice]

"I grew up singing Mares eats oats."

Me, too.

[scott]

Whitney Houston dead at 48.

[Thomas Collins]

Whitney Houston has died. See LUN.

[rse]

scott- that's what I was going to post. The stories over the years from people who ran into her out and about are so tragic. JUst not even coherent.

But what a voice.

[Captain Hate]

Whoa, what was the cause of death?

[Thomas Collins]

The article at the website of The Boston Globe states that the cause and location of her death are currently unknown, CH.

[Captain Hate]

Yeah I clicked on the link after I posted, TC.

[Sara]

I just heard about Whitney Houston, but when I went to find more info, came to this:

Reports of Whitney Houston's Death Denied

Whitney Houston's rep issued a shocked denial today to counter reports that the singer/actress has died

In a statement, her publicist, Nancy Seltzer, said, "I've just spoken to Whitney. She is perfectly fine and does not understand why, with everything going on in the world right now, they have to find new rumors to dig up. She is home in New Jersey with her family." Seltzer said people were calling the singer at home and sobbing, after apparently having heard reports of her death over the radio. According to the rumors, Houston had died of a drug overdose.

[Sara]

Now Fox is reporting that her publicist has confirmed her death. Weird.

[mockmook]

OK, Sara, you seem to be in a talkative mood.

It's just coincidence that you "reported" news that favored Romney. Whatever.

But, answer me this: When you "reported" on Santorum's "gaffe" regarding women in combat, did you read his comments? Did you care that he said nothing to disparage women or their abilities in combat? Did you understand the context of his "gaffe"?

Or, was it just another bit of propaganda to feed us? 'Cause God knows without your guidance we won't figure out that Romney is a saint and Santorum (or whoever threatens Romney) is a bum.

[scott]

I wonder, did she have children of her own? I think Bobby Brown did. Very sad.

[Sara]

Good grief Mock Mock. I have never said Romney is a saint or Santorum is a bum. I'm happy he won the Straw Poll and in Maine, but surprised too. What is your problem? There are 20 comments making the most outrageous smears of Romney to one of mine. Just ignore me if it bothers you so damn much.

[Sara]

Scott: She has one child by Bobby Brown.

[hit and run]

As is said over and over people don't vote for the VP slot.

I pretty much did in 2008 and I suspect others did too.

Here's my statement regarding the 2008 election:

"Don't blame me, I voted for the only candidate with actual executive experience in the election ... from either party ... on the top or bottom of the ticket."

[Ignatz]

Even though I almost never listen to pop music that girl could sing.
Don't know if drugs were part of her death but they sure laid her low for the last few years.
Another life wasted.

[Captain Hate]

That's a good point, hit; and something that is in Romney's advantage. I would say that El JEFe is very uncomfortable in an executive position because he's such a stumblebum when it comes to justifying any position he takes; or even taking a position.

[Danube of Thought]

"I have never said Romney is a saint or Santorum is a bum."

Glad we got that cleared up.

Everything I've read says a brokered convention is a long shot, but I haven't read it in any detail. If true, it's too bad.

[Sara]

Whitney: It doesn't get much better than this.

[Clarice]

Shows you how much to rely on the words of publicist's, doesn't it?

[mockmook]

Just ignore me if it bothers you so damn much.

Posted by: Sara | February 11, 2012 at 08:37 PM

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I'll ignore you if you quit being a shill for Romney. Now, what was so noteworthy that you had to report on Santorum and women in combat? What was the point (except propaganda)?

[scott]

Ok - Thanks, Sara

[Captain Hate]

Everything I've read says a brokered convention is a long shot, but I haven't read it in any detail. If true, it's too bad.+

The primaries were supposed to be a way to avoid the smoke filled rooms and have things be more "open". But somehow the entire primary system has gotten out of control with them taking far too long producing candidates that are in the perpetual campaign mode and eliminating the chances of being governed by normal people; as well as a crazy quilt of caucuses and real elections. I don't know who's responsible for the current sorry state of affairs but surely there's some level of responsibility on the part of both parties; otherwise why not just have some shmoe with a 10 key adding machine taking the money and parceling it out.

[centralcal]

Too bad about Whitney - fabulous voice, beautiful woman, utterly tragic life choices.

[Jack is Back!]

What is it about the music and Hollywood business model that makes you want to do drugs?

[Sara]

What was the point (except propaganda)?

He is the one who made the dumb comment, which later he tried to walk back from by saying he was talking about the men.

It wasn't my propaganda, it was all over the news that day and not very positive coverage for Santorum. I'm just not getting your complaint.

I'll tell you what, you quit shilling for the non-Romney with junk first.

Why does it bother you that I support Romney. I'm not the only one here who does. I want a fiscal conservative, so what? Don't vote for him, no one is forcing you to.

[Stephanie]

When she sang the national anthem my son, who was about 3 at the time was transfixed. Just stared at her. On the way home that night all he could talk about was "the pretty brown lady" and he was so smitten we went out and bought her VHS tape of that for him. He would watch it endlessly and tell anyone who would listen that she was his girlfriend and he was going to marry her when he got old enough.

Just texted him at work to inform him of "the pretty brown lady's " death. So sad

[Clarice]

ras
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the government should require a church or religious organization to provide contraceptives for women even if it violates their deeply held beliefs. Fifty percent (50%) disagree and oppose such a requirement that runs contrary to strong beliefs, while 10% more are undecided. [...] Sixty-five percent (65%) of Catholic voters oppose this requirement, as do 62% of Evangelical Christians, and 50% of other Protestants. Most non-Christians (56%) support the Obama Administration ruling.

[Captain Hate]

What is it about the music and Hollywood business model that makes you want to do drugs?

The music lifestyle for the majority of musicians is life on the road, working weird hours and not making much money. It doesn't lead to a normal family type existence and even in the best of times it has to be somewhat of a grind. Lots of lowlifes attach themselves to it and a lot of people have a hard time keeping things in perspective. A lot of them do; you just don't hear much about them. A lot of improv guys I talk with lead a pretty straight lifestyle and love life on the road; they do it for the joy of playing though.

[Clarice]

And from Pew, illustrating that TM is not alone by any means:

"The downward slide of media credibility continues. A Pew survey released a few days ago found 67 percent of Americans see “a great deal” or “fair amount” of “political bias” in the news media, a record high for the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press which pegged the level at 63 percent just four months ago. Specifically: Currently, 37 percent of Americans say there is a great deal of bias in news coverage and 30 percent say there is a fair amount of bias."

[Just Say'n]

Mrs. Palin looked hot (for a cougar). Until tonight, I didn't realize that she has hooters. Perhaps she should have showed them in 2008. She gave a pretty good speech, too.

[Stephanie]

((It wasn't my propaganda, it was all over the news that day and not very positive coverage for Santorum. I'm just not getting your complaint.))

You took everyone to task the other day for falling for the MSM bullshit reportage on Romneys last gaffe about not caring about poor people and how we shouldn't rely on their reportage for news and we might want to temper our discussions about Romney with respect to reliance on MSM narratives as you were a sophisticated politico who was most qualified to explain to us the importance of not falling for their bullshit bad reportage.

Oops.

[Sara]

Just Say'n: I think she had more in 2008 than now as she was still nursing Trig then.

[Chubby]

(( Too bad about Whitney - fabulous voice, beautiful woman, utterly tragic life choices
))

I remember reading somewhere -- it was a long time ago -- that OBL was totally obsessed by her.

[Danube of Thought]

"Most non-Christians (56%) support the Obama Administration ruling."

Just think about that for a minute. An agency of the central government proposes a rule--not a statute or plebiscite upon which people or their representatives can vote--compelling people in institutions throughout the land to violate their personal or religious convictions. Not because otherwise some calamity will result, but merely because otherwise people would have to provide for contraception through other means (e.g. drugstores).

Why should one's religion, or lack of a religion, affect one's reaction to such a proposal?

Let's face it: many, many Americans today do not mind being told what to do by faraway people whom they do no know, particularly if someone else is paying. It's a nation whose institutions are becoming less and less worthy of survival, and the end result may be just what one would expect.

[Clarice]

It is distressing.
Let's hope they were taken in momentarily by the media propagandizing and will come to their senses, DoT.

[Sara]

You took everyone to task the other day for falling for the MSM bullshit reportage on Romneys last gaffe about not caring about poor people and how we shouldn't rely on their reportage for news and we might want to temper our discussions about Romney with respect to reliance on MSM narratives as you were a sophisticated politico who was most qualified to explain to us the importance of not falling for their bullshit bad reportage.

Oh please. I don't give a carp about what you want to rely on or not. There is no hope of anyone here tempering anything regarding Romney and I quit trying. I've barely been on JOM the last couple of weeks. And I am a far cry from being a "sophisticated" politico. Experienced, yes. Sorry that bothers you.

I would say that just about everyone who posts here would caution you not to fall for the MSM when it comes to any Republican.

[mockmook]

He is the one who made the dumb comment, ...
Posted by: Sara | February 11, 2012 at 09:11 PM

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His comment wasn't dumb, and he wasn't talking disparagingly about women. His "excuse" was an explanation of his plain meaning. Why are you still spreading propaganda? Why are you lying?

[mockmook]

I want a fiscal conservative, so what? Don't vote for him, no one is forcing you to.

Posted by: Sara | February 11, 2012 at 09:11 PM

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How much did spending go down in MA during Romney's tenure?

[Danube of Thought]

"There is no hope of anyone here tempering anything regarding Romney"

Maybe you should have a brutally frank discussion with yourself about why that is so.

[Sara]

What the hell. Why is everyone on my case tonight. You don't like the results of the Straw Poll or the Maine results? Or what?

I posted the results. I didn't say, "neener neener neener." I made no editorial comments at all.

My other comments before the pile on was regarding Gov Walker's and Gov McDonell's CPAC speeches. Both of which I liked, but no one else here seems to agree.

[narciso]

The clique, the Fnork, Duke and Duke, just doesn't understand the issues in the same way as she does, and their propaganda Arm, Fox,is moving farther away from such an understanding in canceling Napolitano, Bolling and Asman's show, they will be still be aroundbut not having a base of information, I've relayed how Clear Channel has become almostas bad the local radio in Alaska,

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/snowlinen/ccc.jpg

[Thomas Collins]

I hadn't paid much attention to the Santorum "emotions" kerfuffle. But the discussion here prompted me to take a look at the tape. I think it is pretty clear he is talking about the boy/girl thing. I also am of the view that, agree with Santorum or not, it was a thoughtful response.

[Danube of Thought]

"Why is everyone on my case tonight."

Again, perhaps a brutally frank discussion with yourself might be useful.

[Danube of Thought]

"The clique, the Fnork, Duke and Duke, just doesn't understand the issues in the same way as she does, and their propaganda arm, Fox..."

Are they all acting in concert? Do they have discussions among themselves about how their views differ from hers? Or is it possible that she simply hasn't made her case with enough people.

[Thomas Collins]

I just watched it again. It's not even a close call. For anyone not grasping at a reason to call Santorum a sexist, it should be pretty clear that he is referring to emotions engendered by the boy/girl thing endangering the mission. Note that immediately after his comment on emotions, he talked about male friendships possibly getting in the way of the mission.

[(Another) Barbara]

Let's hope they were taken in momentarily by the media propagandizing and will come to their senses, DoT.

As I learned in the political polling biz, Clarice, responses to a question like that change dramatically if one substitutes "taxpayer funded" for "government provided." It's astonishing how many people actually believe that government earns money which it can then distribute at will.

Sara: You said that you're not the only one here who supports Romney. That's correct, but you're close to the only one (the real Barbara excepted) who continues to speak about his/her support. I've been cowed into silence -- or, if not cowed, at least unwilling to accept the slings and arrows. Take heart, though. Romney will emerge as the nominee because he's the only one with any chance of winning the general, as I've said too many times to count and to everyone's utter boredom (or anger) by now. If there actually were a smoke-filled-room brokered candidate we'd all be screaming about the Establishment making the choice. Lie back, relax, and think about England, Sara. There's no point in fighting about this any longer.

[Jane]

We just got back from the most wonderful time with Janet and Mr. Janet. They picked us up from CPAC and took us to their home where they fed us the absolutely perfect dinner, and then we went on a tour of the monuments.

Since it is 2 degrees here I only saw the air force monument, but Kim and Mr. Janet persevered and saw several more. Janet and I dished in the car. Did anyone's ears ring?

Have I told you lately how much I love my JOM family? Between Sandy, Windy, Janet and Clarice, it has been a wonderful weekend.

[Clarice]

Jane, it's also so much fun to see fellow JOMers and you in particular. I hope you didn't overdo it and have a nice trip home.
CPAC seems consistently to draw snow to this generally snowless city. Odd.

Niters.

[narciso]

No, they are pretty much of like minds, Krauthammer believing she 'should leave the room, during the death panels, of course NR
ran a subsequent cover, explaining what she really meant, Wehner and Kristol, blind to the consequences of the Sharia Spring, Rubin
was pretty strong on foreign policy, but even
she has softpedaled her pro Israeli views
for the new consensus.

[Frau Stiefelkater]

I appreciate information about the candidates, the more the better. Sara happens to concentrate on Romney and brings information I have not read elsewhere. If someone else can do the same for the other candidates, I'd like to hear it.

Great photos, narciso.

[Stephanie]

The recent uptick in anti-Romney stuff here mainly reflects the concern that his gaffes are making him less electable, which was supposed to be his strong point.

No, what it reflects is that many here still take the word of MSM spin as gospel and park common sense at the door, where Romney is concerned.

Take the use of the word "gaffe." A gaffe is defined as a "clumsy social error, a faux pas," or in Washington speak it is, "telling the truth by accident."

Romney's remark was not a gaffe when taken in sentence context, in other words, don't drop the 2nd part of the sentence, but also in full context of what the subject of the remark was in full. That subject was Romney's plan for the middle class and not the poor or the rich. Did he tell the truth by accident, well that's what the left wants you to believe, that he was saying he doesn't care about the little people, the poor and he "accidentally" showed his true colors, but, of course, that isn't the truth at all. So neither definition fits.

Posted by: Sara | February 08, 2012 at 03:59 PM
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He is the one who made the dumb comment, which later he tried to walk back from by saying he was talking about the men.

It wasn't my propaganda, it was all over the news that day and not very positive coverage for Santorum. I'm just not getting your complaint.

Posted by: Sara | February 11, 2012 at 09:11 PM
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Oh please. I don't give a carp about what you want to rely on or not. There is no hope of anyone here tempering anything regarding Romney and I quit trying. I've barely been on JOM the last couple of weeks. And I am a far cry from being a "sophisticated" politico. Experienced, yes. Sorry that bothers you.

I would say that just about everyone who posts here would caution you not to fall for the MSM when it comes to any Republican.

Posted by: Sara | February 11, 2012 at 09:49 PM

[Stephanie]

off /b

[Stephanie]

off

[narciso]

Now you've done it, Stephanie , \you've brought the bold, lol.

[Sara]

And your point, Stephanie, besides comprehension?

[Danube of Thought]

Note that the propaganda arm of Duke and Duke for a long time seemed the exclusive province of Sarah Palin. She was a paid consultant, and Greta spent more time with her than she did on Aruba.

[Sara]

Again, perhaps a brutally frank discussion with yourself might be useful.

Advice from Mr. Unethical. Start with yourself.

[bio mom]

I came to visit but see nothing has changed. Hang in there Sara. You have more courage than I do.

[Danube of Thought]

Aren't there some here who deplore the ad hominem attack?

[Jim Ryan]

Ladies and gentlemen, Dionne Warwick singing Alfie. Here she has the audience in the palm of her hand and she knows it. Yes, she is Whitney's aunt.

[centralcal]

C'mon, folks. It is only politics and the percentage of commenters here supporting any of the candidates (or none of the above) pretty much mirrors the conservative and/or Republican voters' polling to date.

There really are some sadder aspects to life than not everybody loving your candidate.

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