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February 25, 2012


Danube of Thought

First, from on the road.

hit and run

First, from in the bed.

Captain Hate

First, from at the dining room table.

Cecil Turner

Any poll that has Jimmy Carter higher than 43rd (just in front of the incumbent) is ridiculous. Ike has to rate in the top 40 (or so).

Frau  Zahnpflege

First with teeth flossed.

And, yes, I like Ike! Who can be our *new* Ike and just do the consarned job without all the celebrity carp?


Obama came in 57th.


I'm pretty sure half the people in this country couldn't name 12 presidents, so if Carter came in 12th, maybe that's not so far off.

hit and run

Carter came in "12th":


of course LIBTARDS could name 12 Presidents.

Ben Franklin,
Chris Matthews,
Bill Maher,
Hillary Rodham,
Jon Stewart Liebowitz,
Kathleen Sebellius,
Al Gore,
Michael Moore,
Bill Clinton,
Bill Clinton,
and Tiny Tim Geithner.


Thanks, hit, that kind of confirmed my hunch that he was more or less 12th out of 12.

Interesting that Reagan coming out on top by a big margin didn't generate much press. Searching Google News for "Reagan greatest" generated one hit on this poll. Shocking.


True, but he came out ahead of Nixon, does that seem fair.


Happy Birthday, Jane!!!!!!! Can't remember how to do those cute emoticons but I beat Hit :-)


Forgive please this OT link:

Notes From Underground: HIGHER OIL … Greasing the Skid or Lubricating Liquidity

Really intended for those interested in a perspective on oil.



Unless I slept a week it's not my birthday yet. And it's gonna be a hurdle so I'm not on the edge of my seat.


Happy Birthday, Jane.

Just for you:http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/road_to_road_island.html


Also, Mamie wasn't into a projects to improve us.

Captain Hate

Interesting that Reagan coming out on top by a big margin didn't generate much press. Searching Google News for "Reagan greatest" generated one hit on this poll. Shocking.

Just remember: THERE'S NO BIAS!!11!

Seeing Slick and JFK in front of George Washington made me throw up in my mouth a bit; although maybe it was from all the wimmenz they banged who otherwise live boring lives. Poppy Bush being down on the list is amusing.

Jack is Back!

Nice job, Clarice. I would add that beside strawmen that the other thing of over abundence in this Regime is bad news.

It has also ocurred to me that if you were to make a trendy movie of the first 3 years of the Regimes rule it would have to be directed by Mack Sennett. And keeping with trendy, it would be silent. Without having to hear the cast of characters utter another damn word could set box office records.

hit and run

I think today officially kicks off Jane Birthday Week.


((Also, Mamie wasn't into a projects to improve us.))

but she was a great fundraiser for the war effort ... the trend of fudge sales originated with her and her Mamie Eisenhower fudge

if fudge were included in a kid's lunchbox today, it would probably be confiscated.

I don't think I'll ever understand Mamie's hairdo however.


"...Double Chocolate Fudge or Dorchester Fudge, ... [is more] frequently called Mamie's Fudge or Mamie's Million Dollar Fudge .. Supposedly, President Eisenhower named it thusly for the money it raised for the war effort and for charity during World War II ..." Oh, Fudge! L.E. Benning


How many boulevards, schools, government buildings, candy bars and burgers will be named after Erkel when he finally departs the fix?

Nauseating to think about!

As was the Arms race.

The Interstate Highway system was a moderately grand project.


interesting fact about fudge: It is " ... a purely American contribution ... An entry in Harmsworth's Household Encyclopedia (London 1920) officially confims the presence of fudge in Great Britain. It is defined as "A sweetmeat that hails from America ... " Oh, Fudge! L.E. Benning


A real vote of confidence ...

CHEYENNE — State representatives on Friday advanced legislation to launch a study into what Wyoming should do in the event of a complete economic or political collapse in the United States.

House Bill 85 passed on first reading by a voice vote. It would create a state-run government continuity task force, which would study and prepare Wyoming for potential catastrophes, from disruptions in food and energy supplies to a complete meltdown of the federal government.


Clarice great Pieces this morning. Took it in while working on my first cup of coffee.


Really intended for those interested in a perspective on oil.

The bold caps distracts from his points:

If we weren’t living in a BALANCE SHEET RECESSION WORLD we would probably be seeing the FED nervously reacting to increased OIL prices.

Doubtful with Bernanke as Chairman. I think an argument could be made that one of the unstated reasons for ZIRP is high oil prices.



Left off Jed Bartlett.


Clarice great Pieces this morning. Took it in while working on my first cup of coffee.

Me too, every Sunday morning.



Good morning. A bit early out there on the left coast.

hit and run

This may come as a surprise,but Obama plans on trotting out his family to help his re-election.

Old and Busted: Using kids as campaign props is immoral:

A new Internet ad by the president’s reelection campaign features a portrait of the first family asking supporters to “help the Obamas stand up for working Americans.” The appeal, a departure from the typical Obama messaging, provides an early glimpse of the role the president’s wife and daughters are likely to play in his campaign.

In the months to come, political strategists expect to see the first family used as a political asset.
“It’s a way to humanize them, and it’s also a way to signal youth and vitality,” Gillespie said. “It helps when you have an attractive family to use as a backdrop.”

Obama 2012
Do It For The My Children

But don't worry,the article is very careful to point out that Republicans do it too. You know, like Rick Santorum:

Rick Santorum left the campaign trail in Florida to be with his sick daughter and speaks often of his family.

See! He let his daughter get sick to score sympathy points or something.

And Obama's words of encouragement to his daughters should leave everyone impressed with just how important this election is:

And I always tell Malia and Sasha, ‘Look, you guys, I don’t worry about you.’ I mean, I worry the way parents worry — but they’re on a path that is going to be successful, even if the country as a whole is not successful.

I think a second Obama terms takes the "if" out of the equation. But nevermind that -- look at those girls' dimples! Aren't those two just adorable.


I think today officially kicks off Jane Birthday Week.

Only if you are trying to get rid of me.


And of course, any minute now I expect to see the headlines: "Obama to kids: I don't worry about you."

hit and run

The Decider:

"I also decided no more debates," [Ann Romney] said, as her husband stood next to her. "If we're going to do another debate, [Mitt]'s going to just sit in the audience and watch me."

Jack is Back!


I think part of the Wyoming study is whether they should have an alternative form of currency available should the dollar collapses.

They call it the Doomsday Bill.


Operation Wetback should have propelled Ike into the top ten.


Melinda Romanoff

Excellent Pieces, as always, Clarice.

A lot of people slid right over the "thumb on the scale" efforts with regards to the AT&T deal. Just another day in the Cook County School of Bidness.


Happy Birthday Jane, great pieces, Clarice, they really are doing the Vercotti treatment, with regards to Lightsquared competitor, this administration reminds me of the shameless Erwin Mainway, the conman in at least two of
the classic SNL skits with Jane Curtin,


Back from All State. Funniest overheard tour guide commentary as I was walking around was the guide explaining that you could not get Girl Scout cookies year round in front of the Juliette Low House. She wanted to make sure the tourists knew those were seasonal sales in Savannah too.

Happy B'day Jane.

On Seals and Sp Ops generally you have to be willing to give your life for liberty and this country in a real, nonabstract way. Everything about those courses is designed to weed out anyone who can be broken. No one who sees themselves as a victim can survive. So apart from swimming differences, the entire manufactured minority and gender you are a victim is an impediment to the mindset required.

And holly-your nephew is in my thoughts. Friend's mom whose son came home within last month (who Janet took such good care of) said the families were told to be careful about sudden sounds as the soldiers get used to be back.

The NCLB waivers have gotten a good bit of publicity as Arne and BO have no authority to do what they did. Read one the other day with my knowledge of what those terms really mean. We have officially descended into tyranny and I honestly do not mean that in a hyperbolic sense. There simply is nothing too invasive for this Admin's regulators. And that is just in the area I know cold. So if we win and if we repeal and overturn, the betting seems to be the damage can be done before it is discovered. Hence the Newspeak and all the interlocking relationships.

On the TJ discussion, his constant remodeling of Monticello until he drew his last breath was also lethal to his finances.


Happy Birthday Jane!



I had no idea it was your birthday anniversary.

Well, that certainly changes everything.

It's 10:30 PM here in Hong Kong and I am just in from pounding martini's at Morton's Steakhouse on Kowloon side, HONG KONG.

Sadly I did not know it was your birthday, so now, having dumped the co-pilot, (as he was a bit of a tea totaler having been a former draftee of the Toronto Blue Jays before he got in this line of work) I suppose I will now have to get up and head to Murphy's Pub, Kowloon side, for a half dozen pints of Guinness to celebrate your Birthday Week.

So here's a call to all JOMer fans in Hong Kong, eager to celebrate Jane's birthday. I'll be the guy in the corner getting smarter and smarter and handsomer and handsomer as the night goes on.


A friend once made a comment that made me think:
"Eisenhower did little, when little was exactly what the country needed."
We need a little more "little" now.


You will be in the corner, if nothing else, daddy.


"the "thumb on the scale"

TK, this one's for you.


Shovel ready?

"even if the country as a whole is not successful."

What reason could make this country unsuccessful


Captain Hate

HB Jane.

Greybeard I get what you're saying but unfortunately there will need to be a lot of undoing before we get to the place where a little more little is the prescription.

narc I gave a brief blurb for Klingsor at that other place.

Willard on FNS came off fairly well imo. Mitch Daniels restated his unwillingness to leave his current job.


Well he is ineligible by temperament, and background,pagar, something Drury might have conjured up, after a round at Duke Zeibert's


Good morning, to you too, Rich. Sorry left the computer for awhile. Yes, I am a very early riser. My favorite part of the day (and for much of the year the coolest!).


I saw that, Captain, a little sanity in that peanut gallery that Spivak now regrets from the great beyond, is welcome, how did the flying monkeys react.

Rick Ballard

Clarice's Pieces for those who prefer one click shopping.

The LightSquared matter may yet rise to Solyndra territory but it won't be due to the MFM Three Monkey journojerks.


I like Ike.


This is some of the remarks, I was referring to last night, warning the stupidium, and the reference to 'crooks and liars' which is who they are;



It's heartening to know that you all share my reading comprehension skills. IT'S NOT MY BIRTHDAY AND I AM NOT MAYBEE.

Danube of Thought

Minus 14 at Raz today.

Jim Ryan

Last night, me and my socialist friend (I know, I know) over beers:

ME: So you're for whatever regulation at all. Just pass every regulation possible?

HIM: Jim, I don't have a very high opinion of the human race. They need regulation.

ME: So, since human beings are jackasses, let's get a few human beings together and give them power to control society. Is that it? That sound smart to you?

HIM: No, you get the well-educated, enlightened ones to design the regulations.

ME: Oh, I get it. So, lets let the herd of jackasses pick out which amongst them are the educated, enlightened ones who should be given power to control everyone. Yeah, that'll work.


HIM: Jim, your point is well taken.

But it was the Founding Fathers' point, not mine.

Jack is Back!


Ever been to Duke Zeibert's when it was around? I use to visit regularly after work just like everyone on K street if there was no fund raiser that night. Sometimes I would end up sitting next to Sam Donaldson who turns out to be the asshole he portrays on TV.

I miss it and Mel Krupin's (his for the pickles).

Pangs of nostalgia.


No, never been, I didn;t think that Drury would visit the Palm, so I was going for a DC reference, I don't think they would have let him in their either.

Cecil Turner

Good grief. The real news is this stunning indictment of the US education system:

Americans' views on the topic of great presidents appear to have coalesced around three presidents: Lincoln, Reagan, and Kennedy. One of these three has been at the top of the list in each of eight surveys conducted since 1999.
Lincoln may be an acceptable alternate answer, but seriously . . . Washington? Anyone? I'd expect George to get greater than 50% of the votes. The fact that he doesn't suggests we need to mandate remedial US history classes in high school.

Captain Hate

Sam Donaldson who turns out to be the asshole he portrays on TV.

Sam is like Zippy the Pinhead calling everybody else stupid. There's zero percent chance that in real life he isn't a miserable POS.

Sandy Daze

dear Jane - Several years ago I was scammed by your alternate Facebook page that indicates your birthday in September. After several other JOMers followed me in congratulating you, we learned that, no, your birthday was not then, but ~ six months later. Now we learn that today is supposedly not/NOT your birthday, but rather next week. Right. I think it is all part and parcel of a very clever plot you have devised to make every day, Jane's Day.

Thus, Jane Wins !

. . .and during BHM, no less. Racist.


Jack is Back!


Lincoln gets the "emancipation" vote.

So, I ask Frederick, who is 8 and in 3rd grade (Parochial) and this is his list:

1. George Washington
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Teddy Roosevelt (from Night at The Museum:)

Asked him if he has heard of Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower. He says, "Yeah, I've heard of them but I prefer the founding fathers". But in Social Studies at school that is what they are learning now - the founding of the country.

I wonder, since you raise the point of education, if we could find a similar poll of privately or religiously educated and see if there is a difference in the rankings. I tend to think there would be.


They really do deserve a Gibbs level stooge slap, the father of our country, doesn't get
top billing, where as the Alcibiades with a nicer tan, does,

Danube of Thought

Could be apocryphal, but I was told that when Ike was given a form on which to draft his entry for Who's Who, he wrote

Graduated West Point, 1915
Commanded forces liberating Europe, 1944-45
President of the United States, 1953-61



The redesigned AP US History course is rolling out next fall. Less facts, more themes.

A great deal more attention to paleolithic and neolithic man in the Northern Hemisphere. I suppose to create a romantic urge to move beyond the evils created by that Ind Rev.

More fallacies about the wonders of tribal life.


I have this constant reminder that Jay Leno couldn't get half of the folks on the street to recognize Al Gore when he was VP.

If you can find anybody who can say a good word about Martin Van Buren or Millard Fillmore, I'd be surprised.


I have one question Sandy: Is that cake chocolate?

Danube of Thought

It is an enduring mystery to me how, nearly fifty years after his death, anyone considers JFK even a good president, let alone a great one. The signature events of his presidency were the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban missile crisis and putting 15,000 men on the ground to get the war in Vietnam started.

Well, I guess there's always the Peace Corps.


I remember when I was in school, I could name every member of the President's cabinet.

Obama's cabinet is so ex visum that even he didn't meet privately with some of them during his first two years.


Btw, I heard 'Dr. Evil' crawled out from under his rock, to appear on MTP, no torches
were seen to drive him back into his cave.


Excuse me for taking mischievous delight in this OT topic, but as an agnostic myself, I love that the worlds smartest Atheist, Richard Dawkin's, now reveals he's only 6.9 percent out of 7 certain that God does not exist.

So all that "God Delusion" hype and book he propagated was all, as we call it in the vernacular, BullShit. Ha!

Too bad he didn't use the 9 out of 10 scale, so that Nigel could crank it up to 11.

Sandy Daze

dear Jane -
Exactly. That is soooo racist !

On Jane's Day, and particularly on Jane's Island, the cake will be whatever you want it to be.

OOs & XXs,

Captain Hate

how did the flying monkeys react

Sorry I missed this before, narc. I was doing other stuff and Kristol was the only one worth listening to since they had some RNC hack on, Juan still thinks he works for NPR and I can never figure out whose knob Evan Bayh is trying to polish.

hit and run

If anyone is confused about Jane's birthday,here's a reminder.

Shame the typepad has mucked up the link formatting.

Cecil Turner

The signature events of his presidency were the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban missile crisis and putting 15,000 men on the ground to get the war in Vietnam started.

There's something to be said for moral authority and challenges from the bully pulpit. I'd add the Berlin wall speech and moon program to the list for balance. Still, I'd have to agree his presidency doesn't really rate a "good."

So, I ask Frederick, who is 8 and in 3rd grade (Parochial) and this is his list:

I polled my three high schoolers (also parochial) and got three "Washingtons" with one volunteered "Lincoln" as a second choice. Maybe it's just the public schools.

Jack is Back!


Dawkins must be approaching terminal limits. The older you get the more you play it safe and start questioning not just your mortality but what's next.


There's this new novel by an Atlantic contributor, Quirk, a sort of updated Firm about a ruthless Washington consulting enterprise, that does anything, that reminded me of this;



More fallacies about the wonders of tribal life.

Posted by: rse | February 26, 2012 at 10:27 AM

The proper term is Primordial Communism, not "tribal life." It's important to use the proper terms.


I think Matt was a little too charitable in the first part of this;



Sanity is not the point of the exercise, I see;


Ben Franklin

"It is an enduring mystery to me how, nearly fifty years after his death, anyone considers JFK even a good president, let alone a great one. The signature events of his presidency were the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban missile crisis and putting 15,000 men on the ground to get the war in Vietnam started."

A predictable pov...

Less than 3 years in office. He's the Sandy Koufax of Presidents.

Planning for Federal collapse.

Speaking of Paleolithic Man in North America, check out Wyoming House Bill #85.


Hours in, and no mention of Silent Cal? I despair...

BTW, reposting LUN to Hillsdale's free 10 week online course "Constitution 101". C&P details:

In this course, you can:

*watch lectures from the same Hillsdale faculty who teach on campus;
*study the same readings taught in the College course;
*submit questions for weekly Q&A sessions with the faculty;
*access a course study guide;
*test your knowledge through weekly quizzes; and
*upon completion of the course, receive a certificate from Hillsdale College.


Mark Moyar's 'Victory Forsaken' shows how faulty the template on Vietnam was, although
they were paying attention to Halberstam, so little good could come of it,

Ben Franklin

"A friend once made a comment that made me think:
"Eisenhower did little, when little was exactly what the country needed."
We need a little more "little" now."

Yes. He did little and taxes were 91%. 3 recessions, GDP 2.5%.
Opposed SCOTUS decsion on Brown v Board of Ed., did 'nothing' during the Hungarian Revolution of 1956.

We need someone to do little, again.

Ben Franklin

He was a superb General, however.


MVP, 3 Cy Youngs, pitcher's triple crown, 4 no hitters, 2.67 ERA, 4 World Series champions, WS MVP. Practicing Jew.

In contrast, Kennedy was more like Mendoza.


Kowloon Update:

Murphy's has added a new Fillipino gal behind the counter since my last visit--- Rochelle.

Intersting thing is that Rochelle is completely deaf. She can read my lips for "Guinness", but "Irish Car Bomb" is lots of head scratching, and requiring pen and paper. A very interesting evening. Happy pseudo-Birthday Jane.

Ben Franklin

"hout this entire process, the spectacle of these clowns thrashing each other and continually seizing and then fumbling frontrunner status has left me with an oddly reassuring feeling, one that I haven't quite been able to put my finger on. In my younger days I would have just assumed it was regular old Schadenfreude at the sight of people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suffering, but this isn’t like that – it's something different than the pleasure of watching A-Rod strike out in the playoffs.

No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster..

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/arizona-debate-conservative-chickens-come-home-to-roost-20120223#ixzz1nVUNDbyN

Danube of Thought

That Berlin Wall thing sure was a good speech, but that don't count for much. And the Wall itself was constructed in Kennedy's face by Khrushchev.

Jack is Back!


Plus a Long Island kid who became a Bearcat like me:)

Little known fact: Before he became the basketball coach at UC, Ed Jucker was the baseball coach and had Sandy on his team. When he became the basketball coach he got some kid named Oscar Robinson out of Crispus Attucs HS in Indianapolis and the rest is sports history.

Jack is Back!

::Robertson:: Grrrrrr!


daddy, I think if it's the place on Nathan Road a couple of blocks up from the Promenade, it used to be called Mad Dog's. You go down a flight of stairs; stairs I have stumbled up a several occasions.

Ben Franklin

"but that don't count for much"

It's a matter of record that y'all make a distinction between Dem war heroes and Republicans who play 'War' with a deck of cards.


--I'd add the Berlin wall speech and moon program to the list for balance. Still, I'd have to agree his presidency doesn't really rate a "good."--

He did cut marginal tax rates across the board which led to a rather nice economic expansion.


--It's a matter of record that y'all make a distinction between Dem war heroes and Republicans who play 'War' with a deck of cards.--

Please stick to facts.
I doubt there's a person here who doesn't recognize US Grant was a pretty good general and a pretty lousy president.

Ben Franklin

"Please stick to facts."

When I do, the room seems to clear, save you, Ig.

I'll stick with hyperbole, just like y'all.


BEHOLD the power of OWS wherein a Pew poll shows public opinion on the question of whether loans to banks and financial institutions in 2008 were the "wrong thing" increased by...

    1 point
from 51% in FEB2010 to 52% in FEB2012 .

Danube of Thought

GDP growth during the Eisenhower presidency:

1953 5.9 4.6
1954 0.3 -0.6
1955 9.0 7.2
1956 5.5 2.0
1957 5.4 2.0
1958 1.3 -0.9
1959 8.4 7.2
1960 3.9 2.5

One will search in vain for Dana's "three recessions."

Ike appointed Earl Warren, author of Brown v. Board. In 1957 he sent the 101st Airborne to Arkansas to enforce that decision againt Gov. Orval Faubus.

Dana simply makes shit up.


A FB friend linked this post -

"Isn't It Ironic? The food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever. Meanwhile, the Park Service, also part of the Department of Agriculture, asks us to "please do not feed the animals" because the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves. h/t Mike Hewitt"

Jack is Back!


Just following in the thinking and doing of his a**hole buddy El JEFE.

Danube of Thought

"y'all make a distinction between Dem war heroes and Republicans who play 'War' with a deck of cards."

Someone--anyone--please tell me what that assertion has to do with the question whether Kennedy's Berlin Wall speech counts for much. (One thing we know is that Dana himself will not do so.)

Ben Franklin

"Ike appointed Earl Warren, author of Brown v. Board"

Whom he regarded as his 'worst mistake'....

People will look in vain for Danyoob's rebuttal on taxes.

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