Ross Douthat pounds the table for Eisenhower and a memorial with a proper perspective:
In a 2011 Gallup poll on the greatest president, Eisenhower came in a lame 12th, in a tie with Jimmy Carter. He performs solidly in scholarly surveys, but he’s frequently ranked behind his prominent 20th-century rivals.
In part, this underestimation is a result of the political persona Eisenhower cultivated — an amiable, grandfatherly facade that concealed a ruthless master politician. In part, it reflects the fact that his presidency has always lacked an ideological cheering section. Liberals (who preferred Adlai Stevenson) generally remember the Eisenhower administration as a parenthesis between heroic Democratic epochs, while conservatives (who favored Robert Taft) recall a holding pattern before their Goldwater-to-Reagan ascent.
But ultimately Eisenhower is underrated because his White House leadership didn’t fit the template of “greatness” that too many Americans pine for from their presidents. He was not a man for grand projects, bold crusades or world-historical gambles. There was no “Ike revolution” in American politics, no Eisen-mania among activists and intellectuals, no Eisenhower realignment.
...
This is why the memorial controversy really matters. Eisenhower deserves a monument that puts him where he belongs — in the very first rank of American leaders — because the nation needs to be reminded of where true presidential greatness lies. Plenty of politicians combine inspiring rhetoric with grand ambitions. Far fewer have the gifts required to steer the ship of state away from every rock and reef, and bring it, eight long years later, undamaged into port.
Yes, but good luck. As noted, there was no cheering section then, or now.
First, from on the road.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 25, 2012 at 11:35 PM
First, from in the bed.
Posted by: hit and run | February 25, 2012 at 11:47 PM
First, from at the dining room table.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 25, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Any poll that has Jimmy Carter higher than 43rd (just in front of the incumbent) is ridiculous. Ike has to rate in the top 40 (or so).
Posted by: Cecil Turner | February 26, 2012 at 12:16 AM
First with teeth flossed.
And, yes, I like Ike! Who can be our *new* Ike and just do the consarned job without all the celebrity carp?
Posted by: Frau Zahnpflege | February 26, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Obama came in 57th.
Posted by: Gus | February 26, 2012 at 12:25 AM
I'm pretty sure half the people in this country couldn't name 12 presidents, so if Carter came in 12th, maybe that's not so far off.
Posted by: jimmyk | February 26, 2012 at 12:34 AM
Carter came in "12th":
Posted by: hit and run | February 26, 2012 at 12:40 AM
of course LIBTARDS could name 12 Presidents.
Ben Franklin,
Chris Matthews,
Bill Maher,
Clinton,
Hillary Rodham,
Jon Stewart Liebowitz,
Kathleen Sebellius,
Al Gore,
Michael Moore,
Bill Clinton,
Bill Clinton,
and Tiny Tim Geithner.
Posted by: Gus | February 26, 2012 at 12:46 AM
Thanks, hit, that kind of confirmed my hunch that he was more or less 12th out of 12.
Interesting that Reagan coming out on top by a big margin didn't generate much press. Searching Google News for "Reagan greatest" generated one hit on this poll. Shocking.
Posted by: jimmyk | February 26, 2012 at 01:37 AM
True, but he came out ahead of Nixon, does that seem fair.
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 02:00 AM
Happy Birthday, Jane!!!!!!! Can't remember how to do those cute emoticons but I beat Hit :-)
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Forgive please this OT link:
Notes From Underground: HIGHER OIL … Greasing the Skid or Lubricating Liquidity
Really intended for those interested in a perspective on oil.
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2012 at 04:20 AM
Glas,
Unless I slept a week it's not my birthday yet. And it's gonna be a hurdle so I'm not on the edge of my seat.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2012 at 06:05 AM
Happy Birthday, Jane.
Just for you:http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/road_to_road_island.html
Posted by: Clarice | February 26, 2012 at 06:50 AM
Also, Mamie wasn't into a projects to improve us.
Posted by: Clarice | February 26, 2012 at 06:53 AM
Interesting that Reagan coming out on top by a big margin didn't generate much press. Searching Google News for "Reagan greatest" generated one hit on this poll. Shocking.
Just remember: THERE'S NO BIAS!!11!
Seeing Slick and JFK in front of George Washington made me throw up in my mouth a bit; although maybe it was from all the wimmenz they banged who otherwise live boring lives. Poppy Bush being down on the list is amusing.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 26, 2012 at 07:24 AM
Nice job, Clarice. I would add that beside strawmen that the other thing of over abundence in this Regime is bad news.
It has also ocurred to me that if you were to make a trendy movie of the first 3 years of the Regimes rule it would have to be directed by Mack Sennett. And keeping with trendy, it would be silent. Without having to hear the cast of characters utter another damn word could set box office records.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 07:37 AM
I think today officially kicks off Jane Birthday Week.
Posted by: hit and run | February 26, 2012 at 07:55 AM
((Also, Mamie wasn't into a projects to improve us.))
but she was a great fundraiser for the war effort ... the trend of fudge sales originated with her and her Mamie Eisenhower fudge
if fudge were included in a kid's lunchbox today, it would probably be confiscated.
I don't think I'll ever understand Mamie's hairdo however.
Posted by: Chubby | February 26, 2012 at 08:07 AM
"...Double Chocolate Fudge or Dorchester Fudge, ... [is more] frequently called Mamie's Fudge or Mamie's Million Dollar Fudge .. Supposedly, President Eisenhower named it thusly for the money it raised for the war effort and for charity during World War II ..." Oh, Fudge! L.E. Benning
Posted by: Chubby | February 26, 2012 at 08:19 AM
How many boulevards, schools, government buildings, candy bars and burgers will be named after Erkel when he finally departs the fix?
Nauseating to think about!
Posted by: MoodyBlu | February 26, 2012 at 08:24 AM
The Interstate Highway system was a moderately grand project.
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Posted by: As was the Arms race. | February 26, 2012 at 08:25 AM
interesting fact about fudge: It is " ... a purely American contribution ... An entry in Harmsworth's Household Encyclopedia (London 1920) officially confims the presence of fudge in Great Britain. It is defined as "A sweetmeat that hails from America ... " Oh, Fudge! L.E. Benning
Posted by: Chubby | February 26, 2012 at 08:26 AM
A real vote of confidence ...
Posted by: Neo | February 26, 2012 at 08:39 AM
Clarice great Pieces this morning. Took it in while working on my first cup of coffee.
glasater-
Really intended for those interested in a perspective on oil.
The bold caps distracts from his points:
If we weren’t living in a BALANCE SHEET RECESSION WORLD we would probably be seeing the FED nervously reacting to increased OIL prices.
Doubtful with Bernanke as Chairman. I think an argument could be made that one of the unstated reasons for ZIRP is high oil prices.
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2012 at 08:40 AM
Gus-
Left off Jed Bartlett.
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2012 at 08:44 AM
Clarice great Pieces this morning. Took it in while working on my first cup of coffee.
Me too, every Sunday morning.
Posted by: centralcal | February 26, 2012 at 08:44 AM
centralcal-
Good morning. A bit early out there on the left coast.
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2012 at 08:48 AM
This may come as a surprise,but Obama plans on trotting out his family to help his re-election.
Old and Busted: Using kids as campaign props is immoral:
Obama 2012
Do It For
TheMy ChildrenBut don't worry,the article is very careful to point out that Republicans do it too. You know, like Rick Santorum:
See! He let his daughter get sick to score sympathy points or something.
And Obama's words of encouragement to his daughters should leave everyone impressed with just how important this election is:
I think a second Obama terms takes the "if" out of the equation. But nevermind that -- look at those girls' dimples! Aren't those two just adorable.
Posted by: hit and run | February 26, 2012 at 08:57 AM
I think today officially kicks off Jane Birthday Week.
Only if you are trying to get rid of me.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2012 at 09:03 AM
And of course, any minute now I expect to see the headlines: "Obama to kids: I don't worry about you."
Posted by: jimmyk | February 26, 2012 at 09:06 AM
The Decider:
Posted by: hit and run | February 26, 2012 at 09:11 AM
Neo,
I think part of the Wyoming study is whether they should have an alternative form of currency available should the dollar collapses.
They call it the Doomsday Bill.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 09:12 AM
Operation Wetback should have propelled Ike into the top ten.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 26, 2012 at 09:13 AM
Excellent Pieces, as always, Clarice.
A lot of people slid right over the "thumb on the scale" efforts with regards to the AT&T deal. Just another day in the Cook County School of Bidness.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | February 26, 2012 at 09:14 AM
Happy Birthday Jane, great pieces, Clarice, they really are doing the Vercotti treatment, with regards to Lightsquared competitor, this administration reminds me of the shameless Erwin Mainway, the conman in at least two of
the classic SNL skits with Jane Curtin,
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 09:22 AM
Back from All State. Funniest overheard tour guide commentary as I was walking around was the guide explaining that you could not get Girl Scout cookies year round in front of the Juliette Low House. She wanted to make sure the tourists knew those were seasonal sales in Savannah too.
Happy B'day Jane.
On Seals and Sp Ops generally you have to be willing to give your life for liberty and this country in a real, nonabstract way. Everything about those courses is designed to weed out anyone who can be broken. No one who sees themselves as a victim can survive. So apart from swimming differences, the entire manufactured minority and gender you are a victim is an impediment to the mindset required.
And holly-your nephew is in my thoughts. Friend's mom whose son came home within last month (who Janet took such good care of) said the families were told to be careful about sudden sounds as the soldiers get used to be back.
The NCLB waivers have gotten a good bit of publicity as Arne and BO have no authority to do what they did. Read one the other day with my knowledge of what those terms really mean. We have officially descended into tyranny and I honestly do not mean that in a hyperbolic sense. There simply is nothing too invasive for this Admin's regulators. And that is just in the area I know cold. So if we win and if we repeal and overturn, the betting seems to be the damage can be done before it is discovered. Hence the Newspeak and all the interlocking relationships.
On the TJ discussion, his constant remodeling of Monticello until he drew his last breath was also lethal to his finances.
Posted by: rse | February 26, 2012 at 09:24 AM
Happy Birthday Jane!
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 26, 2012 at 09:33 AM
Jane,
I had no idea it was your birthday anniversary.
Well, that certainly changes everything.
It's 10:30 PM here in Hong Kong and I am just in from pounding martini's at Morton's Steakhouse on Kowloon side, HONG KONG.
Sadly I did not know it was your birthday, so now, having dumped the co-pilot, (as he was a bit of a tea totaler having been a former draftee of the Toronto Blue Jays before he got in this line of work) I suppose I will now have to get up and head to Murphy's Pub, Kowloon side, for a half dozen pints of Guinness to celebrate your Birthday Week.
So here's a call to all JOMer fans in Hong Kong, eager to celebrate Jane's birthday. I'll be the guy in the corner getting smarter and smarter and handsomer and handsomer as the night goes on.
Posted by: daddy | February 26, 2012 at 09:39 AM
A friend once made a comment that made me think:
"Eisenhower did little, when little was exactly what the country needed."
We need a little more "little" now.
Posted by: Greybeard | February 26, 2012 at 09:44 AM
You will be in the corner, if nothing else, daddy.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 26, 2012 at 09:45 AM
"the "thumb on the scale"
TK, this one's for you.
http://americanvisionnews.com/1953/georgia-dismisses-obama-eligibility-challenge-then-gets-8-3-billion-federal-grant
Shovel ready?
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"even if the country as a whole is not successful."
What reason could make this country unsuccessful
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/why_is_obama_in_bed_with_the_muslim_brotherhood.html
Posted by: pagar | February 26, 2012 at 09:47 AM
HB Jane.
Greybeard I get what you're saying but unfortunately there will need to be a lot of undoing before we get to the place where a little more little is the prescription.
narc I gave a brief blurb for Klingsor at that other place.
Willard on FNS came off fairly well imo. Mitch Daniels restated his unwillingness to leave his current job.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 26, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Well he is ineligible by temperament, and background,pagar, something Drury might have conjured up, after a round at Duke Zeibert's
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Good morning, to you too, Rich. Sorry left the computer for awhile. Yes, I am a very early riser. My favorite part of the day (and for much of the year the coolest!).
Posted by: centralcal | February 26, 2012 at 09:52 AM
I saw that, Captain, a little sanity in that peanut gallery that Spivak now regrets from the great beyond, is welcome, how did the flying monkeys react.
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 09:52 AM
Clarice's Pieces for those who prefer one click shopping.
The LightSquared matter may yet rise to Solyndra territory but it won't be due to the MFM Three Monkey journojerks.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 26, 2012 at 09:54 AM
I like Ike.
Posted by: MarkO | February 26, 2012 at 09:57 AM
This is some of the remarks, I was referring to last night, warning the stupidium, and the reference to 'crooks and liars' which is who they are;
http://www.huliq.com/10282/jeb-bush-new-republican-contender-president-2012-state-polls
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 09:58 AM
It's heartening to know that you all share my reading comprehension skills. IT'S NOT MY BIRTHDAY AND I AM NOT MAYBEE.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Minus 14 at Raz today.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Last night, me and my socialist friend (I know, I know) over beers:
ME: So you're for whatever regulation at all. Just pass every regulation possible?
HIM: Jim, I don't have a very high opinion of the human race. They need regulation.
ME: So, since human beings are jackasses, let's get a few human beings together and give them power to control society. Is that it? That sound smart to you?
HIM: No, you get the well-educated, enlightened ones to design the regulations.
ME: Oh, I get it. So, lets let the herd of jackasses pick out which amongst them are the educated, enlightened ones who should be given power to control everyone. Yeah, that'll work.
[A LONG PAUSE. HE GETS UP TO FETCH ANOTHER BEER. RETURNS.]
HIM: Jim, your point is well taken.
But it was the Founding Fathers' point, not mine.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | February 26, 2012 at 10:07 AM
narciso,
Ever been to Duke Zeibert's when it was around? I use to visit regularly after work just like everyone on K street if there was no fund raiser that night. Sometimes I would end up sitting next to Sam Donaldson who turns out to be the asshole he portrays on TV.
I miss it and Mel Krupin's (his for the pickles).
Pangs of nostalgia.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 10:08 AM
No, never been, I didn;t think that Drury would visit the Palm, so I was going for a DC reference, I don't think they would have let him in their either.
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Good grief. The real news is this stunning indictment of the US education system:
Lincoln may be an acceptable alternate answer, but seriously . . . Washington? Anyone? I'd expect George to get greater than 50% of the votes. The fact that he doesn't suggests we need to mandate remedial US history classes in high school.Posted by: Cecil Turner | February 26, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Sam Donaldson who turns out to be the asshole he portrays on TV.
Sam is like Zippy the Pinhead calling everybody else stupid. There's zero percent chance that in real life he isn't a miserable POS.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 26, 2012 at 10:18 AM
dear Jane - Several years ago I was scammed by your alternate Facebook page that indicates your birthday in September. After several other JOMers followed me in congratulating you, we learned that, no, your birthday was not then, but ~ six months later. Now we learn that today is supposedly not/NOT your birthday, but rather next week. Right. I think it is all part and parcel of a very clever plot you have devised to make every day, Jane's Day.

Thus, Jane Wins !
. . .and during BHM, no less. Racist.
OMG-ABO,
Sandy
Posted by: Sandy Daze | February 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM
CT,
Lincoln gets the "emancipation" vote.
So, I ask Frederick, who is 8 and in 3rd grade (Parochial) and this is his list:
1. George Washington
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Teddy Roosevelt (from Night at The Museum:)
Asked him if he has heard of Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower. He says, "Yeah, I've heard of them but I prefer the founding fathers". But in Social Studies at school that is what they are learning now - the founding of the country.
I wonder, since you raise the point of education, if we could find a similar poll of privately or religiously educated and see if there is a difference in the rankings. I tend to think there would be.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 10:25 AM
They really do deserve a Gibbs level stooge slap, the father of our country, doesn't get
top billing, where as the Alcibiades with a nicer tan, does,
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Could be apocryphal, but I was told that when Ike was given a form on which to draft his entry for Who's Who, he wrote
Graduated West Point, 1915
Commanded forces liberating Europe, 1944-45
President of the United States, 1953-61
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 26, 2012 at 10:25 AM
cecil-
The redesigned AP US History course is rolling out next fall. Less facts, more themes.
A great deal more attention to paleolithic and neolithic man in the Northern Hemisphere. I suppose to create a romantic urge to move beyond the evils created by that Ind Rev.
More fallacies about the wonders of tribal life.
Posted by: rse | February 26, 2012 at 10:27 AM
I have this constant reminder that Jay Leno couldn't get half of the folks on the street to recognize Al Gore when he was VP.
If you can find anybody who can say a good word about Martin Van Buren or Millard Fillmore, I'd be surprised.
Posted by: Neo | February 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM
I have one question Sandy: Is that cake chocolate?
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2012 at 10:30 AM
It is an enduring mystery to me how, nearly fifty years after his death, anyone considers JFK even a good president, let alone a great one. The signature events of his presidency were the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban missile crisis and putting 15,000 men on the ground to get the war in Vietnam started.
Well, I guess there's always the Peace Corps.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM
I remember when I was in school, I could name every member of the President's cabinet.
Obama's cabinet is so ex visum that even he didn't meet privately with some of them during his first two years.
Posted by: Neo | February 26, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Btw, I heard 'Dr. Evil' crawled out from under his rock, to appear on MTP, no torches
were seen to drive him back into his cave.
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Excuse me for taking mischievous delight in this OT topic, but as an agnostic myself, I love that the worlds smartest Atheist, Richard Dawkin's, now reveals he's only 6.9 percent out of 7 certain that God does not exist.
So all that "God Delusion" hype and book he propagated was all, as we call it in the vernacular, BullShit. Ha!
Too bad he didn't use the 9 out of 10 scale, so that Nigel could crank it up to 11.
Posted by: daddy | February 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM
dear Jane -
Exactly. That is soooo racist !
On Jane's Day, and particularly on Jane's Island, the cake will be whatever you want it to be.
OOs & XXs,
Sandy
Posted by: Sandy Daze | February 26, 2012 at 10:39 AM
how did the flying monkeys react
Sorry I missed this before, narc. I was doing other stuff and Kristol was the only one worth listening to since they had some RNC hack on, Juan still thinks he works for NPR and I can never figure out whose knob Evan Bayh is trying to polish.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM
If anyone is confused about Jane's birthday,here's a reminder.
Shame the typepad has mucked up the link formatting.
Posted by: hit and run | February 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM
The signature events of his presidency were the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban missile crisis and putting 15,000 men on the ground to get the war in Vietnam started.
There's something to be said for moral authority and challenges from the bully pulpit. I'd add the Berlin wall speech and moon program to the list for balance. Still, I'd have to agree his presidency doesn't really rate a "good."
So, I ask Frederick, who is 8 and in 3rd grade (Parochial) and this is his list:
I polled my three high schoolers (also parochial) and got three "Washingtons" with one volunteered "Lincoln" as a second choice. Maybe it's just the public schools.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | February 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM
daddy,
Dawkins must be approaching terminal limits. The older you get the more you play it safe and start questioning not just your mortality but what's next.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM
There's this new novel by an Atlantic contributor, Quirk, a sort of updated Firm about a ruthless Washington consulting enterprise, that does anything, that reminded me of this;
http://freebeacon.com/cap-does-damage-control/
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM
More fallacies about the wonders of tribal life.
Posted by: rse | February 26, 2012 at 10:27 AM
The proper term is Primordial Communism, not "tribal life." It's important to use the proper terms.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2012 at 10:51 AM
I think Matt was a little too charitable in the first part of this;
http://freebeacon.com/column-the-sloppy-incumbent/
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Sanity is not the point of the exercise, I see;
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/02/make-pie-higher.html
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM
"It is an enduring mystery to me how, nearly fifty years after his death, anyone considers JFK even a good president, let alone a great one. The signature events of his presidency were the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban missile crisis and putting 15,000 men on the ground to get the war in Vietnam started."
A predictable pov...
Less than 3 years in office. He's the Sandy Koufax of Presidents.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Speaking of Paleolithic Man in North America, check out Wyoming House Bill #85.
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Posted by: Planning for Federal collapse. | February 26, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Hours in, and no mention of Silent Cal? I despair...
BTW, reposting LUN to Hillsdale's free 10 week online course "Constitution 101". C&P details:
In this course, you can:
*watch lectures from the same Hillsdale faculty who teach on campus;
*study the same readings taught in the College course;
*submit questions for weekly Q&A sessions with the faculty;
*access a course study guide;
*test your knowledge through weekly quizzes; and
*upon completion of the course, receive a certificate from Hillsdale College.
Posted by: AliceH | February 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Mark Moyar's 'Victory Forsaken' shows how faulty the template on Vietnam was, although
they were paying attention to Halberstam, so little good could come of it,
Posted by: narciso | February 26, 2012 at 11:21 AM
"A friend once made a comment that made me think:
"Eisenhower did little, when little was exactly what the country needed."
We need a little more "little" now."
Yes. He did little and taxes were 91%. 3 recessions, GDP 2.5%.
Opposed SCOTUS decsion on Brown v Board of Ed., did 'nothing' during the Hungarian Revolution of 1956.
We need someone to do little, again.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM
He was a superb General, however.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM
MVP, 3 Cy Youngs, pitcher's triple crown, 4 no hitters, 2.67 ERA, 4 World Series champions, WS MVP. Practicing Jew.
In contrast, Kennedy was more like Mendoza.
Posted by: matt | February 26, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Kowloon Update:
Murphy's has added a new Fillipino gal behind the counter since my last visit--- Rochelle.
Intersting thing is that Rochelle is completely deaf. She can read my lips for "Guinness", but "Irish Car Bomb" is lots of head scratching, and requiring pen and paper. A very interesting evening. Happy pseudo-Birthday Jane.
Posted by: daddy | February 26, 2012 at 11:42 AM
"hout this entire process, the spectacle of these clowns thrashing each other and continually seizing and then fumbling frontrunner status has left me with an oddly reassuring feeling, one that I haven't quite been able to put my finger on. In my younger days I would have just assumed it was regular old Schadenfreude at the sight of people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suffering, but this isn’t like that – it's something different than the pleasure of watching A-Rod strike out in the playoffs.
No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster..
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/arizona-debate-conservative-chickens-come-home-to-roost-20120223#ixzz1nVUNDbyN
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM
That Berlin Wall thing sure was a good speech, but that don't count for much. And the Wall itself was constructed in Kennedy's face by Khrushchev.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 26, 2012 at 11:53 AM
matt,
Plus a Long Island kid who became a Bearcat like me:)
Little known fact: Before he became the basketball coach at UC, Ed Jucker was the baseball coach and had Sandy on his team. When he became the basketball coach he got some kid named Oscar Robinson out of Crispus Attucs HS in Indianapolis and the rest is sports history.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM
::Robertson:: Grrrrrr!
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM
daddy, I think if it's the place on Nathan Road a couple of blocks up from the Promenade, it used to be called Mad Dog's. You go down a flight of stairs; stairs I have stumbled up a several occasions.
Posted by: matt | February 26, 2012 at 11:58 AM
"but that don't count for much"
It's a matter of record that y'all make a distinction between Dem war heroes and Republicans who play 'War' with a deck of cards.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 11:58 AM
--I'd add the Berlin wall speech and moon program to the list for balance. Still, I'd have to agree his presidency doesn't really rate a "good."--
He did cut marginal tax rates across the board which led to a rather nice economic expansion.
Posted by: Ignatz | February 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM
--It's a matter of record that y'all make a distinction between Dem war heroes and Republicans who play 'War' with a deck of cards.--
Please stick to facts.
I doubt there's a person here who doesn't recognize US Grant was a pretty good general and a pretty lousy president.
Posted by: Ignatz | February 26, 2012 at 12:07 PM
"Please stick to facts."
When I do, the room seems to clear, save you, Ig.
I'll stick with hyperbole, just like y'all.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 12:10 PM
BEHOLD the power of OWS wherein a Pew poll shows public opinion on the question of whether loans to banks and financial institutions in 2008 were the "wrong thing" increased by...
1 point
from 51% in FEB2010 to 52% in FEB2012 .Posted by: AliceH | February 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM
GDP growth during the Eisenhower presidency:
1953 5.9 4.6
1954 0.3 -0.6
1955 9.0 7.2
1956 5.5 2.0
1957 5.4 2.0
1958 1.3 -0.9
1959 8.4 7.2
1960 3.9 2.5
One will search in vain for Dana's "three recessions."
Ike appointed Earl Warren, author of Brown v. Board. In 1957 he sent the 101st Airborne to Arkansas to enforce that decision againt Gov. Orval Faubus.
Dana simply makes shit up.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM
A FB friend linked this post -
"Isn't It Ironic? The food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever. Meanwhile, the Park Service, also part of the Department of Agriculture, asks us to "please do not feed the animals" because the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves. h/t Mike Hewitt"
Hah!
Posted by: Janet | February 26, 2012 at 12:15 PM
DoT,
Just following in the thinking and doing of his a**hole buddy El JEFE.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM
"y'all make a distinction between Dem war heroes and Republicans who play 'War' with a deck of cards."
Someone--anyone--please tell me what that assertion has to do with the question whether Kennedy's Berlin Wall speech counts for much. (One thing we know is that Dana himself will not do so.)
Posted by: Danube of Thought | February 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM
"Ike appointed Earl Warren, author of Brown v. Board"
Whom he regarded as his 'worst mistake'....
People will look in vain for Danyoob's rebuttal on taxes.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | February 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM