Enough Bush bashing! Obama drops the gloves and takes on Rutherford B. Hayes. Ooops:
President Obama got a laugh out of a Maryland audience on Thursday when he mocked the Republican Party in a speech, comparing their skepticism of alternative energy to the “Flat Earth Society” in Christopher Columbus’ day and President Rutherford B. Hayes’ apparent dismissal of the telephone. But while Obama thinks the GOP is in need of a science lesson, he may need to bone up on history himself.
In mocking the GOP, Obama cited an anecdote about Hayes in which, upon using the telephone for the first time, he said, “It’s a great invention, but who would ever want to use one?”
“That’s why he’s not on Mount Rushmore,” Obama said. “He’s explaining why we can’t do something instead of why we can do something.”
But Nan Card, curator of manuscripts at the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Ohio, told TPM that the nation’s 19th president was being unfairly tagged as a Luddite.
“He really was the opposite,” she said. “He had the first telephone in the White House. He also had the first typewriter in the White House. Thomas Edison came to the White House as well and displayed the phonograph. Photographing people who came to the White House and visited at dinners and receptions was also very important to him.”
Obama's speech writing team doesn't do their homework, which is one reason he won't be on Mt. Rushmore.
LEST WE FORGET: Of five Civil War veterans to become President, only Hayes was wounded in the war; he was the first law school grad to become President; his wife was the first college grad to become First Lady, an honorific that either started or was popularized with her.
So even with the smartest administration evarrr, El JEFe still doesn't know wtf he's talking about while taking a cheap shot at somebody doubtlessly a much better President than he is? The deuce you say!
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 15, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Second!
I have been to the Rutherford B. Hayes presidential historical site. It is wonderful!
Sue: I also am insulted and dismayed by Obama's continuous snarky, condescending and dismissive tone in all of his speeches.
What a douchebag!
At least Hayes was in the military. At last count neither Obama or Clinton ever spent a day obeying what someone else told him to do.Military experience should be a prerequisite for the job. Now Obama has screwed up Afghanistan.
Posted by: maryrose | March 15, 2012 at 08:10 PM
What a petulant little man, casting doubt on a fellow Harvard Law grad, brigadier general, reformist Congressman, strong but reconstructionist, even the disputed election, that marked him as 'His fraudulency'
had more to do with Dem skullduggery in the states in question,
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 08:14 PM
I also am insulted and dismayed by Obama's continuous snarky, condescending and dismissive tone in all of his speeches
Clinton's legacy was that every kid in jr high school decided a blow job was "not sex" and Obama's legacy will be that Presidents are sarcastic and disrespectful.
Posted by: Jane (get off the couch - come save the country) | March 15, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Obama said that under his plan "electric rates would necessarily skyrocket". At least we will be able to afford electricity on our flat earth.
Posted by: Dennet Hushka | March 15, 2012 at 08:26 PM
That was part of it, but the other of Cloward and Piven's handiwork, including the CRA revisions, the slashing of the military, and the deployment on fools errands not unlike the Kony hunt, while ignoring AQ's rise,
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 08:29 PM
--He’s explaining why we can’t do something instead of why we can do something.--
Did it ever occur to President Dumbass a more pertinent question might be should we do something not can we?
Posted by: Ignatz | March 15, 2012 at 08:36 PM
I doubt Barry even realizes that Hayes was a civil rights pioneer--not in the modern sense of victimhood and demands for special privileges, but in trying to assure that blacks got equal treatment under the law.
Posted by: jimmyk | March 15, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Mood enhancer:
http://www.onecutethingaday.com/one-cute-thing/2012/3/14/newfie-and-a-baby.html
Posted by: AliceH | March 15, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Just in case anyone missed it in the previous thread, the great Paul Ryan's ad:
LUN
Posted by: PaulL | March 15, 2012 at 08:44 PM
I wonder what Hayes' opinion was of CRT?
If Jane couldn't pass Obama's class - could Hayes?
The reason Obama won't be on Rushmore is there is no room for those ears.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | March 15, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Obama sucks!
Posted by: Sara | March 15, 2012 at 08:57 PM
It might do Obama some good to study Rutherford B. Hayes. He might not be so dismissive of him if he actually knew history instead of reading a teleprompter.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Now Sue, the final four is on. He doesn't have time for such drivel.
Posted by: Jane (Bad says Obama sucks) | March 15, 2012 at 09:05 PM
All Obama knows is Hayes has an R after his name. And I doubt he even knew that much until someone told him to use the joke.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 09:05 PM
And all those "smart" kids at the college, laughing at Obama's joke. They probably didn't even know who Hayes was.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 09:07 PM
He is Wiley E Obama 'super genius' which doesn't stop from running off cliffs from time to time;
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 09:07 PM
You know I don't usually go there, but I guess it's convenient to reveal this now
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74094.html
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 09:13 PM
IQ:
Gore: 115
Dubya: 130
Slick: 150
Zero: 125
Cheney: 145
Biden: 115
My guesses. When you factor in character and common sense, as well as strength of intellectual habits, the observed behaviors are well explained.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Dubya 130? Thats's your guess?
I guess you think curley cue lightbulbs make your flat earth valid.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | March 15, 2012 at 09:22 PM
The comment was payback.
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_betrayal_of_the_Negro_from_Rutherfor.html?id=b0OQi4wQApMC
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 15, 2012 at 09:22 PM
Far from encyclopedic, leaving out the context of the 1876 election, the Klan's
'outreach' in Florida and elsewhere.
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Clinton's legacy was that every kid in jr high school decided a blow job was "not sex" and Obama's legacy will be that Presidents are sarcastic and disrespectful.
Ding, ding ding! We have an early winner for the year's pithiest comment.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:30 PM
Obama sucks so much ...the dog doesn't even like him. LOL
Posted by: Ann | March 15, 2012 at 09:31 PM
125? Are you imagining an IQ test which weights low cunning above comprehension and ability to discern patterns? You could test him 'til he turned green and he'd never crack 115. There is a very good reason why he is never separated from a teleprompter in any of the 57 states.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 15, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Of those Jim posted, I'd like to see any of them pass flight school and drive an F-105. I know Ben doesn't need to since he is made of feathers. But the other guys? Do they have the right stuff? Maybe Cheney but his heart couldn't take the G's even with a pressure suit. Slick would have to lose 30 pounds and Gore would have to learn real science. Zero is over-rated and wouldn't even understand that the plane doesn't fly on algae.
But Biden, he might be able to do it as long as he shut up long enough to get ATC directions of the taxiway unto the runway.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | March 15, 2012 at 09:34 PM
You could be right, Rick. I'm trying to compensate for my contempt for Zero by being as generous as I can.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:36 PM
I think this low, trashy, petty man has stepped on his crank this time. Fact-checkers will be coming out of the woodwork on this one, and this asshole will not fare well at all.
And let us lie in wait for when we next hear raucous calls for "respect for the office of the presidency."
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 09:36 PM
I have zero respect for Obama. And it is going down from there.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 09:38 PM
Yup, Jack. There are several varieties of intelligence not measured by an IQ test, and they have corresponding stupidities.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Ain't YouTube great?
From Ryder Cup Captain Paul Azinger comes this blast from the past.
Pelosi on Bush and high gas prices:)
Rahm in the background urging her to not waste a crisis.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | March 15, 2012 at 09:41 PM
"I'm trying to compensate for my contempt for Zero by being as generous as I can."
Ah - the Tribe method. Gotta be careful with that one. Tribe degraded and devalued an entire law school with it.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | March 15, 2012 at 09:41 PM
I agree that Obama's SAT math score was probably quite disappointing to AA bureaucrats trying to make the case for him.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:44 PM
I think this low, trashy, petty man has stepped on his crank this time.
Oh, DoT. Just another day, just another step... (you think he still has one - crank, that is?)
They have all been bad, they will continue to be until we are rid of him.
Obama sucks.
Salud, Bad/Sad/Mad!!!!
Posted by: centralcal | March 15, 2012 at 09:45 PM
narciso,
Didn't know if you knew but Milo Weaver is back and I am reading American Spy. Its all about a real "chink in the armor". Highly recommend.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | March 15, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Ann, the dog knows about Muslims and their left hands.
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 15, 2012 at 09:47 PM
With all the rain we've had this year, the bluebonnets should be especially pretty. I'll never look at one again without remembering her.
Obama still sucks, and I still miss her.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Ha! Rick.
Oh, and folks, if you haven't seen the $8K gas story, click on "disappoinging" above. Yes, I think Zero struggled with math, finance, economics, and science courses. If he took them. Which we aren't allowed to know. Because we aren't allowed to see the transcripts. The reason for that being, well, I think we all know.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I didn't know that JiB, I found Nearest Exit,
a little baroque, irony right, but I'll check it out
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 09:49 PM
I'd guess Carter 140, Gipper 135.
Begin the discussion about correlation.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 09:49 PM
You know, bad's real name was Sue, Susie to her friends. Sue isn't even my real name. And she didn't even know that for a long time. ::grin:: I loved her southern speak. She could misspell words to sound southern better than anyone.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 09:51 PM
March 14 Statement on Religious Freedom and HHS Mandate
excerpts:
and
Concluding:
The tsunami builds. . .
OS~OMG~ABO !!!
Sandy
Posted by: Sandy Daze | March 15, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Sounds about right to me, DoT. Pity about Carter's disgraceful dementia.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Oh yes, she could, Sue. And, entertain the hell out of all of us.
Clarice reminds us she was originally from Whis-can-sin (Wisconsin). Wonder where she picked up her ear for regional dialects?
Posted by: centralcal | March 15, 2012 at 09:55 PM
This morning, on Fox & Friends, there was a segment about child labor laws and how the Obama administration either was going to or already had made it where children couldn't work on their family farms. I missed most of it and just now thought of it again. Anyone know what they were talking about?
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 09:56 PM
Obama's legacy will be that Presidents are sarcastic and disrespectful.
A major goal of the left is to drag all institutions into the gutter with them. So eventually, they hope, no one will remember how Presidents (and their wives, and their administrations) used to comport themselves, or how qualified candidates used to have to be in order to be elected.
Team Obama's doing a bang-up job moving that ball forward.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2012 at 09:56 PM
--You know, bad's real name was Sue, Susie to her friends.--
Nother reason I loved Bad.
Mrs. Iggy is a Sue as well.
Posted by: Ignatz | March 15, 2012 at 09:58 PM
March 14 Statement on Religious Freedom and HHS Mandate
excerpts:
and
Concluding:
The tsunami builds. . .
OS~OMG~ABO !!!
Sandy
Posted by: Sandy Daze | March 15, 2012 at 09:59 PM
She used sad, which were her initials, when she first came here. After she disclosed her illness to us, we thought sad was what she was. No. I'm sure she was sad, but she never let on. She changed it to mad, and then after she started getting salty, to bad. And bad she was.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM
This falls in the 'fake but accurate' department,
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/15/rutherfordgate-part-of-a-pattern-for-obama/#comments
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 10:06 PM
A pretty good expose of Fluke's..eh...fluker. Red diaper through and through.
Posted by: scott | March 15, 2012 at 10:07 PM
You betcha, Sara,Obama sucks. I wonder whose class notes he used to conduct his Chicago classes on the equal protection clause.
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | March 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM
I hope bad's family and friends won't mind my posting this photo of her. It's from a group of pics a friend posted on her memorial Facebook page:
What a beautiful young homemaker she was!
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2012 at 10:15 PM
The old timers here may recall that there was an effort to uncover Obama's role in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The three of us who contributed were Susie Donovan, JMH, and yours truly.
SAD/BAD had a wonderful ability to find public information that was very obscure and pass it along. I dutifully posted this on my web site. And the information was good enough that Steve Diamond and Stanley Kurtz both used it. High praise for her abilities, I think.
Through it all she was aggressive, direct, yet charming. It was a wonderful time.
So I'll lift a Sonoma County Zin in her remembrance.
Posted by: DrJ | March 15, 2012 at 10:24 PM
How weird is this? I'm watching "Awake" right now. Bad guy escaped convict is really innocent of killing that drug dealer named Derek Bell.
Posted by: AliceH | March 15, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Sue, (hmmmm or whatever is your name). I heard that segment in the 6:00 hour while getting ready for my radio show, so my attention was split. I think Obama's admin passed a regulation that prohibits kids from working on the family farm. I have no idea the reason - probably because there is no handicap ramp in the pool.
Posted by: Jane (Bad says Obama sucks) | March 15, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Look at her. How fun! What on earth was she cooking?
Posted by: Jane (Bad says Obama sucks) | March 15, 2012 at 10:29 PM
I didn't know that Dr. J. And where is JMH?
Posted by: Jane (Bad says Obama sucks) | March 15, 2012 at 10:31 PM
"Derek Nathaniel Bell (born December 11, 1968 in Tampa, Florida) is a former Major League Baseball player. Primarily a right fielder and center fielder, Bell batted from the right side and threw with his right hand. He is 6'2" tall, and during his playing career, he weighed 215 pounds."
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 10:34 PM
It may have been something she'd accidentally burnt, Jane, thus occasioning the photo.
Those were fun times researching the CAC project. Too bad the info didn't get the audience it should have.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM
"On April 20, 2006, Derek Bell was charged with felony cocaine possession and possession of drug paraphernalia, after police found a warm crack pipe in the back seat of his car during a traffic stop. He was arrested again on December 2, 2008, facing three counts of possession of drug paraphernalia and one count of failure to appear in court on another charge of possession of drug paraphernalia from earlier in the year."
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Zero will also be known for dumbing down the POTUS. He has stated that we have only 2% of the world's oil and that he's going to save each family $8000 in yearly gasoline expenses. That's really stupid stuff. It's hard to call these lies, they're so stupid.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 10:46 PM
I didn't know that Dr. J. And where is JMH?
Jane, I think you just don't remember with the torrent of information here. I've wondered about JMH too; I'll send her an email message to see how she is doing. And I'll prod her to visit once again.
Posted by: DrJ | March 15, 2012 at 10:50 PM
"Derek Bell". You know, it does sound like one of the stoners in my high school.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | March 15, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Dr J, I can't even remember how long I've been here, but it certainly was long before Obama. Did you hear Kurtz has a sequel coming out in August.
Posted by: Jane (Bad says Obama sucks) | March 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Historical tidbit.
" In 1871, President Ulysses S. Grant appointed him Collector of the Port of New York. Arthur effectively marshalled the thousand Customs House employees under his supervision on behalf of Roscoe Conkling's Stalwart Republican machine. Honorable in his personal life and his public career, Arthur nevertheless was a firm believer in the spoils system when it came under vehement attack from reformers. He insisted upon honest administration of the Customs House, but staffed it with more employees than it needed, retaining them for their merit as party workers rather than as government officials.
In 1878 President Rutherford B. Hayes, attempting to reform the Customs House, ousted Arthur. Conkling and his followers tried unsuccessfully to win redress by fighting for Grant's renomination at the 1880 Republican Convention. They reluctantly accepted the nomination of Arthur for the vice presidency."
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur
Illegitimate Presidents need to stick together.
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM
That was a great JOM team, DrJ.
Posted by: Frau Steingehirn | March 15, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Next up in historical tidbits, Charles J. Guiteau.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau
"As Garfield entered the station, looking forward to a vacation with his wife in Long Branch, New Jersey, Guiteau stepped forward and shot Garfield twice from behind, the second shot piercing the first lumbar vertebra but missing the spinal cord. As he surrendered to
authorities, Guiteau said: "I am a Stalwart of the Stalwarts. .. Arthur is president now!"
And what did Guiteau do for a living?
" Guiteau then obtained a law license in Chicago, based on an extremely casual bar exam. He used his money to start a law firm in Chicago based on fraudulent recommendations from virtually every prominent American family of the day. [citation needed] He was not successful. He argued only one case in court, the bulk of his business being in bill collecting. Most of his cases resulted in enraged clients and judicial criticism."
Chicago?
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM
"Illegitimate Presidents need to stick together."
Who among them was illegitimate?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Mrs. Iggy is a Sue as well
As is Mrs H.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 15, 2012 at 11:13 PM
And another(since the topic was telephones):
Alexander Graham Bell and the Garfield Assassination
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refgarfield.html
Goodnight.
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM
now they are out to destroy family farms:
Farm safety expert: Know what's in proposed child labor law
February 21, 2012
Print Version
WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. – Parents of children who work on the family farm or are in agriculture education programs should thoroughly review proposed changes to child labor laws so they fully understand how the new rules could affect them, a Purdue farm safety specialist advises.
"Because the proposed rule changes are 51 pages long, I don't know that many people understand exactly what's being presented," Bill Field said. "The changes not only hold the potential for positive but also significant negative effects to youth less than 16 years old who seek employment or are currently employed in agriculture."
While the Agricultural Hazardous Occupations Order was written in an effort to protect children from dangerous situations, it could prevent many young people from working on family farms or participating in agriculture-related educational programs.
The U.S. Department of Labor on Feb. 1 temporarily shelved the legislation after complaints that it would erode the tradition of children working on their family-owned farm. Although it agreed to reinstate a "parental exemption" that would allow parents to assign on-farm duties to their children, Field said many other proposed rule changes could further restrict young people from working in agriculture.
Under the proposed changes, the "parental exemption" itself would not apply to incorporated family farms, Field noted.
"Many small, family farms are incorporated because of the tax advantages," he said. "But when a farm is incorporated, parents are considered a corporate entity and they would not be covered by the parental exemption."
Posted by: Clarice | March 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM
According to Dick Durbin, also of Illinois fame, Dual Citizens could be considered unqualified for the eligibility requirements. This is in the record of the 2004 Senate Judiciary Hearing on Natural Born Citizenship.
It was a major concern to him.
I wonder why.
Sacking out early, I will post the link in the AM.
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Sue, (hmmmm or whatever is your name)
In the real world, I wouldn't even turn my head if someone said Sue. ::grin:: However, my daddy and grandmother called me Suzy, so Sue isn't that far off from my real name.
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Clarice,
That is the craziest thing I've ever heard. I was sure I misunderstood it this morning. But I didn't. Why the hell are we just now hearing this?
Posted by: Sue | March 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM
I wonder what Pofarmer thinks of this one, Sue and Clarice.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Coming soon: Parents will not be allowed to make children do household chores that could otherwise be done by SEIU members, including: Washing dishes, making beds, putting away toys.
Posted by: jimmyk | March 15, 2012 at 11:43 PM
It's just more and more progressive insanity, much if not all was predicted before, in the LUN
Posted by: narciso | March 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Jeez--I just heard Dr. K (DVR delay) equate the pic of the disarmed Marines to the one of the chopper on the Saigon embassy.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 11:45 PM
I just bet he's delighted, porch. I just bet when more people hear about it they'll ALL be delighted. I'll be they'll want Obama for another term and more and more govt by the kind of sharpies we have running things.Sharpies like ag dept regulators who don't know many many family farms are incorporated entities.
Posted by: Clarice | March 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM
DoT, you and I both commented early today on how dispirited the troops looked. Morale must be in the toilet.Imagine--it's too dangerous for the Sec Def to speak to a jt Afghan and US forces meeting unless they are all disarmed and as soon as its over the troops have to go on s if these guys can be trusted.
Posted by: Clarice | March 15, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Good grief. My husband grew up on a Colorado dry wheat farm. He was driving the tractor by age 7 and by age 11, he could break down and rebuild just about any piece of farm equipment so that even the neighbors would ask him to fix things. He became known as the "Fix-it Kid." He was the 2nd oldest of 5 kids and every one of them had specific farm duties they were expected to get done each day.
Posted by: Sara | March 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM
"I wonder why."
So do I--very earnestly. What is Leo Donofrio's view? What is yours? More important--far more important--why are you concerned?
TK, you are indeed a fine fellow. But it seems to me that you are objectively deranged.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 15, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Jeez--I just heard Dr. K (DVR delay) equate the pic of the disarmed Marines to the one of the chopper on the Saigon embassy.
I've heard that remark several times today on several different broadcasts.
Posted by: Sara | March 15, 2012 at 11:51 PM
I read yesterday that Donofrio the wizard announced he had formally quit the legal profession,DoT.
Posted by: Clarice | March 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM
--Who among them was illegitimate?--
Wasn't Barry's pop already married when he got hitched to Stan?
That makes one.
Posted by: Ignatz | March 16, 2012 at 12:00 AM
That's not Obama's only error: it's a common misconception that many people (or even that it was common wisdom) that the world was flat in Columbus' day, or that he would sail off the edge, as the major criticism of Columbus' plan to sail to the Far East by a Western route.
The world had commonly been accepted as round for centuries before. The major criticism was that it would be TOO FAR, which was actually correct, if the New World was not in the way, sailing across the Atlantic and Pacific would have been an impossibility for Columbus and his ships.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth
Posted by: babygiraffes | March 16, 2012 at 12:03 AM
--I'll be they'll want Obama for another term and more and more govt by the kind of sharpies we have running things.Sharpies like ag dept regulators who don't know many many family farms are incorporated entities.--
Like him?
Posted by: Ignatz | March 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM
The world had commonly been accepted as round for centuries before.
Not just centuries, millenia. The ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round, and even calculated its diameter (incorrectly, but they had the right idea).
Posted by: jimmyk | March 16, 2012 at 12:08 AM
Insty points to an article on another Dem retirement. Did they lose control of the redistricting process? Is it fallout from blue states losing representation? LUN
Posted by: Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA | March 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM
I suppose that should be "spherical" and "circumference," but you get the idea.
Posted by: jimmyk | March 16, 2012 at 12:09 AM
--Not just centuries, millenia. The ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round, and even calculated its diameter (incorrectly, but they had the right idea).--
The Book of Job, usually accepted as the oldest book in the bible refers to the circular earth.
Posted by: Ignatz | March 16, 2012 at 12:16 AM
@ jimmyk It was first postulated millenia ago, but there was doubt and mistaken beliefs for a long time after. Not until the 14th century did the belief die out completely in scientific circles. It is true most medieval scholars recognized it was spherical, but there were schools of belief that dissented. However, it was well established by 1492, that's for sure.
Posted by: babygiraffes | March 16, 2012 at 12:16 AM
"I've heard that remark several times today on several different broadcasts."
It was my first reaction, and I posted it here this morning. I wonder if it will generate discussion.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 16, 2012 at 12:24 AM
I suppose there was a lot of money to be made in discoveries like this and people didn't publicize them. Just as I suppose the ancient battery they found in Baghdad was used to goldplate and siverplate base metals for profit rather than to create flashlights so when the family that knew how to build them (sail to farther places) died, the secrets did, too.
Posted by: Clarice | March 16, 2012 at 12:27 AM
I don't know,DoT. How can anyone look at those pictures and not think of the copters over the Embassy. And to think this was unnecessary, he built up the troops there just because the Dems kept yapping that it's were the war OUGHT to have been fought.
Bedtime.
Posted by: Clarice | March 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM
*wHere*
Posted by: Clarice | March 16, 2012 at 12:32 AM
The only war they are for, is the one we are not currently in, that's their m.o.
Posted by: narciso | March 16, 2012 at 12:35 AM
The estimable Leo Donofrio, March 13 2012:
"After long consideration and discussion with my family, I am saying goodbye to this blog and the law. I am retiring my law license and will be concentrating on making films, and writing music.
"There is no lawyer, politician or judge who will change the world into what God intended it to be – one family, one love. Angels are real. It’s gonna be a full on landing soon.”
Perhaps in his new career Leo will expose the fact that Mozart actually had nothing to do with Eine Kleine Nachtmusik.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | March 16, 2012 at 12:43 AM
It has been my contention for a number of years now that the left attends schools that teach an entirely different curriculum than my school taught back in the dark ages. There are so many historical facts that they seem so ignorant about and were things I was learning in elementary school or Sunday School.
Ignatz: Other places the Bible tells us about the circle or compass of the Earth: Job 26:10, Prov 8:27, Isaiah 40:22
Posted by: Sara | March 16, 2012 at 01:05 AM