Trouble In Paradise

The NY Times editors thump the Obama/Holder presentation on targeted assassinations, even invoking the dreaded 'Bad as Bush' comparison:

The Power to Kill

President Obama, who came to office promising transparency and adherence to the rule of law, has become the first president to claim the legal authority to order an American citizen killed without judicial involvement, real oversight or public accountability.

That, regrettably, was the most lasting impression from a major address on national security delivered last week by Attorney General Eric Holder Jr.

There were parts of the speech worth celebrating — starting with Mr. Holder’s powerful discussion of why trying most terrorists in civilian courts is best for punishing them and safeguarding America. But we are deeply concerned about his rejection of oversight and accountability when it comes to killing American citizens who are suspected of plotting terrorist acts.

They can't quite buy what Holder was selling:

[The Administration] has even refused to acknowledge the existence of a Justice Department memo providing legal justification for killing American citizens, even though that memo has been reported by The Times and others. It is beyond credibility that Mr. Obama ordered the Awlaki killing without getting an opinion from the department’s Office of Legal Counsel. Even President George W. Bush took the trouble to have lawyers in that office cook up a memo justifying torture.

The administration intended Mr. Holder’s speech to address the criticism and provide a legal argument for the policy, but it was deeply inadequate in important ways.

...

All Mr. Holder did say was that the president could order such a killing without any judicial review and that any such operation would have “robust” Congressional oversight because the administration would brief Congressional leaders. He also said the administration provided Congress with the legal underpinnings for such killings.

In the Awlaki case, we do not know whether that notification was done in advance or after the fact, if it was done at all. We do know the administration has not given Congress the legal memo with the underlying justification for killing American citizens, because Senator Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, was asking Mr. Holder for it just the other day.

Perhaps most disturbing, Mr. Holder utterly rejected any judicial supervision of a targeted killing.

We have said that a decision to kill an American citizen should have judicial review, perhaps by a special court like the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which authorizes eavesdropping on Americans’ communications.

Well, far be it from me to defend Team Obama, but those FISA courts did not simply fall out of the sky and land near the Washington Mall.  They were created by an act of Congress and signed by a President willing to limit the power of the Executive Branch (that would be Mr. Peanut, natch.)

I suppose it's possible that Obama could simply volunteer to submit death warrants to the FISA courts, although I wonder whether they would accept jurisdiction without a legal foundation.  The right way would be for Congress to amend the FISA Act and collect Obama's signature.  And if the Times editors were clever they would vex Boehner and Reid with this very issue; I'm curious to see where the two sides would come out, and the threat of an Obama veto is not a bug, its a feature.

The Times' Big Finish:

The administration should seek a court’s approval before killing an American citizen, except in the sort of “hot pursuit” that justifies the police shooting of an ordinary suspect. There should be consequences in the event of errors — which are, tragically, made, and are the great risk. And the administration should publish the Office of Legal Counsel memo. We cannot image why Mr. Obama would want to follow the horrible example set by Mr. Bush in withholding such vital information from the public.

I need legal help - under what authority could a judge sign such a warrant?

Comments

[Melinda Romanoff]

IANAL but who's estate will take this to court?

[Nah, It's Just a fluke]

I'll repeat the conclusion of my post from a few days ago, until such time as his family and (or) qualified, independent medical authorities state they unequivocally believe Andrew Breitbart died of natural causes, I will believe he was assassinated.
By. The. Executive. Branch.

[MarkO]

Were I a judge, I would not sign a warrant unless it was based on an underlying congressional authorization. This is well beyond the penumbras.

If the President has inherent authority to kill Americans he don't need no stinkin' warrant.

[OldTimer]

Thanks to Clarice, Breitbart and other informed voices helping us to finally vet BHO, I now understand with conviction the sinister ideology motivating POTUS and FLOTUS and their destructive left flank. To understand the disgusting 'theory' propping up the president's belief system, is to instantly recognize that its tenets reach the depths of man's lowest intellectual level, and it surely explains the morally compromised and downright stupid decisions and actions emanating from our White House for the past three years.

Clarice's masterpiece for today is LUN

[abad man]

"... he was assassinated."

From the grassy knoll of course.

[narciso]

I would have though Awlaki pere would do it, one problem, the folks likely to take up that
case, are in the Hustice Department, and likely drafted the kill order, 'Hope and Change'

[Extraneus]

Has anyone linked this Pravda article about Sheriff Arpaio's forgery claims? Pravda, indicting the American media for its failure to cover this.

A singularly remarkable event has taken place in the United States of America. This event occurred in Arizona on March 1st and was an earth shattering revelation.

A long awaited press conference was given by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, a five time elected Sheriff, which should have made national and international headlines. Arpaio's credentials include serving in the United States Army from 1950 to 1953, service as a federal narcotics agent serving in countries all over the world with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), and served as the head of the Arizona DEA. Without doubt, this is a serious Law Enforcement Officer, not one to be taken in by tin-foil-hat wearing loons.

Yet, in the five days since his revelations there has been little in the way of serious reporting on the findings he presented in his presser. With 6 short videos, the Sheriff and his team presented a devastating case, one the tame US press is apparently unable to report.

[snip]

One can easily imagine the reaction of the press had this scenario been about George W. Bush in 2004.

On the contrary, the press itself forged documents regarding the 43rd President: Long term CBS newsman Dan Rather lost his credibility along with his job when he presented forged Air National Guard documents allegedly denigrating the president's service in the 1970's. One can imagine the glee evidence presented by law enforcement officials of a real forgery made by President Bush would have generated. The press feeding frenzy would have eclipsed that of Watergate, the most controversial political event in modern America history which led to the resignation of President Nixon in August of 1974.

The questions in the White House Press room would have been merciless to say the very least.

What has been the response from the Obama era press?

Silence.

Pravda.

[Janet]

Did I tell ya'll that last Sunday my church had anti-Israel protesters come out with signs along the road leading to our church? I couldn't see who the organization was. Just terrible. I listened to our service on-line today, so I don't know if they were there again.

[Right now they are using a captive press for the job.]

10:29 is not me, but I've wondered. I think Andrew died in his jeans from his genes, but this regime, by all its acts, indicates that political assassination of American opponents is not beyond the pale.
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[Jack is Back!]

OT: One of TM's advertisers runs a red light in Orlando and hits a Lynx bus.

Yep, all he wants to do is kill bus passengers.

[Cecil Turner]

I'd love to see that justice department memo . . . and the exploding heads of the lefties trying to justify it in juxtaposition with the "torture" memos. Maybe something like:

It is by my order and for the good of the state that the bearer of this has done what he has done.

[Jack is Back!]

Stacy Drake's Top Ten Errors in "Game Change".

HIghly recommended reading. i won't/can't watch it since I have no movie channels. But it is obviously a hit job on Palin period.

[MarkO]

Hey. To all those who have tech connections. Why no JOM app? Something that would take you to the last comment on the latest thread?

I, clearly, have no idea how that would work, but I know I would love to be able to keep up with the ideas here on my iPhone.

[JeanD]

Another great Pieces, Clarice. Per your request, I shared.

Now in addition to TM's CAFE mandate, here's another one I could support.

http://catholicexchange.com/free-beer-mandate/

[Clarice]

Who would represent the victims? All the former defense counsel for the terrorists are now holding high positions in Holder's DoJ.

[Clarice]

MarkO, Typepad used to have that fabulous feature and then inexplicably dropped it, causing me and countless others to waste time and risk carpal tunnel syndrome.

[narciso]

You know JiB, I think the Mary McCarthy approach to Lillian Hellman, is the best
approach, even though I linked one of these
pieces to the Bloomberg review that surfaced in my fishwrap, Pollak compared it to films like 'the Hidden' (and I suggest Species) it concerns events that reputedly happened in 2008, that's as much as I'll credit it, Ed Wood was more subtle, the worst of it was the imputation that her rallies were inciting violence, everything else is rather broad parody.

[narciso]

That's what I said above, clarice, heh,

[Today @ American Interest.]

Walter Russell Mead breathes fire at the Green Dragon.
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[Chubby]

(then inexplicably dropped it))

probably to increase page hit counts which is what they use to sell ads (like dead tree uses circulation numbers)

[Janet]

from JiB's 11:41 link - "To quote Bill Dyer, the Branchflower report, the one sold by HBO as proof Palin was guilty of any wrongdoing, was "an obvious political hatchet job.""

Just like the phony Fluke "Congressional testimony". We've got to get the MFM to start informing the public about these phony theater productions.
The set-ups are a sham.
The "experts" testifying are a sham.
and the MFM going along with them is an outrage.

[Comanche Voter]

Well my stars and garters! The Old Grey Lady is NOT brain dead--massive evidence to the contrary.

[Janet]

I rarely scroll. If it is a long JOM thread & I shut down my computer....then the next day I just go to 'history' & bring up the last JOM entry. It takes me right to the page where I had been the day before.

[Clarice]

You're right, narciso. Well, you're younger and can type faster. XOXOX

[Clarice]

Janet, we can't "make" the MSM cover these things. What we now must realize--beginning with dan Rather and memogate, is that we have to document the fraud, pass it around and publicize it ourselves to our friends and families until the MSM has no choice but to carry the story.

[Ignatz]

Excellent pieces, clarice.
Thank you also for telling that sad person off on the other thread last night.
Didn't see it til this morning.

[Clarice]

Thanks, Iggy. As for last night, it was utterly heart felt.

[narciso]

Meanwhile this is the new addition to the Fox stable, with a nudge from Susstein and Lloyd
perhaps;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sally-kohn/bucking-beck-episode-1-fa_b_695776.html

I intellectually understand the kind of nazgul, that would unfeelingly pollute a thread like that, but there's something in me, that can't don't get it, that has to be a good thing,

[Ignatz]

--Thanks, Iggy. As for last night, it was utterly heart felt.--

I know.

[Danube of Thought]

"under what authority could a judge sign such a warrant?"

There is none that I know of. Congress is going to have to act, and ultimately the judiciary will have to decide whether its prescribed process passes constitutional muster.

On the other hand...

When U.S citizens have joined hostile foreign armies, e.g. Germany, no one suggested any need for a warrant, and no one doubted the authority of U.S. forces to kill them on sight. So does a U.S. citizen acquire more protection when he joins, not a lawful foreign army, but an unlawful organization that operates in open defiance of the laws and customs of war?

Minus 19 at Raz today.

[MarkO]

Clarice, we need you to be able each week to type your excellent Pieces. Be careful.

I particularly enjoyed today's.

[Ignatz]

Captain Ed enjoyed Barsoom, narc as did the folks in comments.

[Danube of Thought]

When the memo ultimately surfaces, will the Times describe it as having been "cooked up?"

[Threadkiller]

Excellent pieces Clarice!

More for the new NYT.
http://www.infowars.com/media-cover-up-of-obama-impeachment-exposed/

[Ignatz]

--When the memo ultimately surfaces, will the Times describe it as having been "cooked up?"--

And will they say even President Obama had a memo cooked up justifying murder?

[Clarice]

More on the illegal robocalls --traced to the DCCChttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/this-is-big-shady-group-that-made-illegal-calls-to-all-red-to-blue-districts-likely-linked-to-dccc-developing/

At the same site you'll find a video documenting Obama's rude actions.

[Chubby]

Alex Jones, TK?

I wish I hadn't clicked the link.

[Clarice]

I don't know about that, DoT. I recall a judge hear went dotty and said to a guy brought before him on a misdemeanor, "By the authority vested in me by the district of Columbia, I hereby order the defendant taken from this courthouse to a place of execution and hanged by the neck until dead."

[narciso]

Astroturf it's what's for breakfast, lunch and dinner;

Meanwhile, I think this indicates we are over
the target;

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nation-of-islam-newspaper-attacks-minion-of-the-synagogue-of-satan-glenn-beck-for-farrakhan-comments-we-will-not-allow-such-vicious-assaults/

[narciso]

'Blimey, I didn't expect the Spanish inquisition'

[Ignatz]

I'm willing to place a small wager that the intentional murder of 16 Afghanis by a berserk US soldier will provoke less outrage among the general Afghan population than the inadvertent burning of a couple of korans, so bizarre are the inverted values in that benighted backwater.

[Threadkiller]

Chubby, I know. He devolves into the usual stuff.

Still the basic point is valid. Congress is constructing a resolution to make the Constitution have force.

Both sad and backwards.

[Chubby]

TK, I appreciate your summary because I could not watch the video.

[Threadkiller]

Hahahaha!

[Janet]

Well, like the National Enquirer had to break the Edwards story...it seems like we need some of the fringe groups just because they keep digging!

[Danube of Thought]

Wonderful, Clarice. And is Sowell a hero, or what?

[OldTimer]

The Pravda piece posted by Extraneus has an interesting author.

*Dianna Cotter is a Senior at American Military University, a 4.0 Student, the recipient of the Outstanding Student Essay of 2009, a member of Delta Epsilon Tau and Epsilon Pi Phi Academic Fraternities and on the Dean's and President's Lists for academic achievement. She has published at Examiner.com, in American Thinker, Accuracy in Media, and Family Security Matters.*

Everything about BHO is phony from A to Z. His hidden documents will only serve to confirm the dysfunctional and dishonest pattern of his life if they're ever publicized. The biggest losers will be those who aided and abetted this fraud into the presidency.

[Chubby]

Narciso, in some cases I'm willing to wait for it to get into the mainstream

I can never forget him following Michelle Malkin around, bullying her.

[rse]

clarice-I did one of my back in time journeys and I've got a way of describing what the media is up to with the rest of what's going on. How's this for interesting. The book I was using had a brown piece of newsprint someone was clearly using as a bookmark. Maybe the last time anyone read it. Cleveland Plains-Dealer, February 9, 1954.

And I ordered Beyond All Reason. I had thought about the links to legal scholarship ever since Fish went to Yale. I still think the reality is contained in BO's own words where he mentioned opening up your heart. Feeling is to have primacy with thinking, if not superiority. Consistent with how CRT relates to other siblings and some essays out of Australia.

[Threadkiller]

Links are tough to come by, chubby.

I have never heard of prisonplanet.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/will-a-sitting-president-finally-be-held-accountable-for-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors.html

The text includes decent sourcing.

[Chubby]

I don't put 9/11 truthers in the same catagory as the birthers. Calling the POTUS a traitor who conspired to kill his own people is not the same as asking for validation of his credentials.

Alex Jones Bullies Michelle Malkin
This is incredible. Liberal blogger Alex Jones leads his fans in a chant for peace and love then turns around and bullies conservative pundit Michelle Malkin with chants of ...

www.bloggernews.net/117514Michelle Malkin Attacked at DNC; "Kill Michelle Malkin ...
115,028 views · Added 25/08/2008
25/08/2008 · 8-25-08 Michelle Malkin verbally assaulted by Alex Jones, with an unidentified protester shouting "Kill Michelle Malkin!"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DoxqvqjxMMichelle Malkin Stalked and Threatened by 9/11 Truther, Mobbed by ...
Michelle Malkin is friendly when approached by 9/11 truther Alex Jones. Jones starts yelling at her, YOU ... has excellent pictures of his attempted bullying of Michelle Malkin

www.lookingattheleft.com/2008/08/malkin-mobbed

[Threadkiller]

Dianna Cotter. Remember her?

http://m.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-portland/justiagate

[Chubby]

((How's this for interesting. The book I was using had a brown piece of newsprint someone was clearly using as a bookmark. Maybe the last time anyone read it. Cleveland Plains-Dealer, February 9, 1954.))

I hope you cite that anecdote in your book somewhere. It's colorful and interesting and makes a great point.

Rse, I am collecting a bunch of stuff now that I hope to form into a book. I am having trouble keeping the vast number of papers, notes, online notes, links, sources, etc. organized. Any tips?

[Smokin' Hot Pistol.]

Threadkidder, I'd really like to hear the opinions of all the lawyers here about JustiaGate.
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[DrJ]

Chubby, I use RefBase for that purpose. It is a front end to the MySQL database that manages references. It is set up for journal articles, patents and books (the classical stuff) but you certainly can use it for other purposes.

[Pete]

Lets face it we have a killer in the White House.

[MarkO]

Jerry Lee Lewis is President? Great Balls of Fire.

[rse]

chubby-

If you saw my dining room you would surmise my methods are not the best. My youngest wanted Christmas Eve dinner in there and I had books used grouped by chapters in different chairs. We ate in the Breakfast room.

I think Colored Folders help because I tend to remember that I have set up a file and what color it is as I look.

I'm about to go through and do a list of books and other links I used so what was a reference but is not a source can finally make it to a bookshelf.

I keep multiple copies several places out of my experience that links go down whenever anyone recognizes I am looking so at least I still have a pdf later.

I had a secretary for too long to be very good at anything but the figuring out and explaining part. But I am treating what I am saying as if I could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt if I had to. Very little of what I am saying can be factually disputed. It's just not known because it involved linking functionally things that most people have never seen as connected.

Tip toe through the treatises was just too far a journey I suppose.

Hope that helps but honestly one of my kids will have to help me learn to do powerpoints.

[Threadkiller]

A comment at PJM claims CHACO started it.

http://pjmedia.com/blog/pjm-political-82708-the-revolution-will-be-televised-on-pjtv/

[Ignatz]

--Jerry Lee Lewis is President? Great Balls of Fire.--

LOL. I'm Breathless from laughing, MarkO.

[Clarice]

I blame Chaco for everything. I mean everything.

Thanks, DoT. I think Sowell is one of the few really honest great thinking academics today. It's a pity the media showcases assholes and dummies like Sharpton and Jackson as representative of all black people.

rse, If your ideas are too paltry to survive scrutiny, why not emphasize feelings? And if your audience is too stupid and ill-educated to think logically, that's a double plus bonus.

[Chubby]

Dr. J.

I just checked out the web version of RefBase and it appears that new entries are listed publically? Would they not discourage non scientific entries?

rse,

thank you for sharing. your process must be pretty darned good because you've basically completed the project which deserves major congratulations. I have found that reading your posts throughout has been both an inspiration and motivator.

[Frau Feuerwehr]

Iggy, if there is one, the firestorm will be in the U.S. and not in Afghanistan.

[Frau Lehrerin a.D.]

rse - I second Chubby's statement at 2:13. I, too, applaud your talent and perseverance in researching and documenting the corruption of American education.

[RichatUF]

But Jones was being dickish.

Wow-Pravada, the New York Times, Infowars, Prison Planet...can Democrat Underground and the Black Vault be all that far behind.

[DrJ]

Chubby,

I've not been to the RefBase home page for a while, but you can set it up to have outside access if you want but it is by no means required. I have RefBase accessible only to my internal network. (Is that your question?)

Refbase has a bunch of keys that correspond to classical library and scientific literature work, but you can use them however you want. The nice thing is that you can do pretty decent searches, and you can have the entire article (or book chapter or web page or whatever) stored so that you can retrieve it whenever you want

In the old days you had to run some sort of Unix variant for it to work, but I don't know if that is still the case. I run it on my FreeBSD server, and all the local computers have access to it.

[pagar]

"rse - I second Chubby's statement at 2:13. I, too, applaud your talent and perseverance in researching and documenting the corruption of American education. "

I want to add my appreciation for what you have posted. Everything seems to be such a part of a big attempt to destroy our education system and our values.

[Oh, let it slide. Birthers are just nuts.]

JustiaGate? You oughta be as outraged for law as I am about science.
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[Chubby]

birfers aren't nuts but troofers are nuts. imo that's why birfers should not be spotted publically with troofers

[Threadkiller]

So Corsi's appearing on Alex Jones show Trumps his swiftboat creds?

[Threadkiller]

"'s" got in there somehow.

[La, la, la, la, la, la, life is but a dream.]

In real life, when you see such evidence of a guilty conscience, you fail to act on it at your peril.
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[daddy]

30 seconds to go. G'morning Heel fans.

[Captain Hate]

But it is obviously a hit job on Palin period.

The mere casting of the over-the-hill and been-to-too-many-all-you-can-eat-buffets Julianne Moore was a clear sign that it would be a smear. Palin is much too attractive to deserve that treatment. I'm surprised that Moore hasn't caught more flak from same sexer groups after her role in "The Kids are Alright" was straight out of some Hollyweird stereotype of lesbians being dumpy skeezers who really crave a roll in the hay with men and would act on it if not for her domineering partner. Did any homo groups protest that or were they so infatuated with the idea that the children of the union were presented as the most normal people in the movie that they kept their complaints in the closet?

[JustiaGate? What's that?]

Florida State, Baylor, Vanderbilt and Wichita State in the Final Four.
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[narciso]

You know it's 'scorpion and frog' with the left, but it's less understandable with some of those on our, like the Pod, who still grants it too much currency, they brought the Law and Order character, played by the lady
eaten by the Reavers in Serenity, on ABC, and I don't think there was any pushback,

[Chubby]

Dr. J

It looks like a great resource but I haven't figured out yet if it is entirely web based. When you say you run it only on your internal networks does that mean you have a non web based version? would the material that I add be stored locally or in the cloud or in both? My preference is cloud but only private access.

[pagar]

Trouble in LA

http://tinyurl.com/7ke5emw

"The Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report » MPAC Says It Was Consulted On Choice Of L.A. Police Chief. (via Creeping)"

"Just a few months prior to the November 2011 event, in an interview with an Arab-language website, Ghannouchi had stated that the Arab Spring “will achieve positive results on the path to the Palestinian cause and threaten the extinction of Israel.” Added Ghannouchi: “I give you the good news that the Arab region will get rid of the bacillus of Israel. Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the leader of Hamas, said that Israel will disappear by the year 2027. I say that this date may be too far away, and Israel may disappear before this.”"

Arab Groups that want to destroy Israel are being consulted about who should be Police Chiefs of major American cities. Totally amazing!

[narciso]

Looks like he's all we wee'd up again,

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-campaign-zeros-in-on-sarah-palin-and-the-far-right/

[Danube of Thought]

How 'bout them 'Noles? How 'bout them Commodores?

Weird.

[RichatUF]

narciso-

Interesting, former Gov. Palin isn't running?

Minus 19 at Raz today.

That makes for two outliers.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet]

Semiholes win. Tarholes lose. What's a Captain to do?

[narciso]

Our local fishwrap, with the errant relevancy of 2007, focused on the cancelation of All American Muslim,?? with Leonard Pitt's Garnell,and a phoned in Carl Hiassen column on Limbaugh, no signs of intelligent life here,

[Captain Hate]

That's Criminoles, JR.

[Clarice]

And where is Sheikh Yassin today, pagar?

[Rick Ballard]

Clarice,

Which part of him?

[Captain Hate]

Why are there Dancing With the Stars commercials acting like nobody can pronounce Martina Navratilova's last name? It's not like she wasn't prominent in women's tennis for a prolonged period of time.

[narciso]

Well that is an inconvenient fact best left ignored, clarice, Norwegian blue, is the condition;

Meanwhile, many innocent trees were sacrificed to give us this tripe;

http://www.amazon.com/Its-Classified-Novel-Nicolle-Wallace/dp/1451610963/ref=pd_sim_b_1

[NK]

Eric 'Bandito' Holder says "Warrants? We don t got no steeken warrants! We do need no steeken warrants! We re not gonna get no steeken warrants!"

[Ranger]

Just as important as -19 is this:

Rasmussen Tracking

3/8 - 3/10

1500 LV

Obama 42

Romney 48

Romney +6

Ras's numbers are starting to converge with the Gallup tracking poll for Obama's approval numbers.

Santorum doesn't do nearly as well, but Obama is still under 45% against him.

Coincidentally, Gas is now over $4 here in the midwest.

[narciso]

Brain slug infestation, is the best explanation, Captain;

[narciso]

Well some promises he does keep, apparently we are letting the Gitmo 5, vacation in Dubai.

[The last thing Sheikh Yassin heard before he was sent to Hellfire by a Hellfire!!!]

BOOM!

[Extraneus]

Seems pretty obvious that "Game Change" was meant to be released during Palin's campaign for President. Wonder how many other smear jobs were in the works before she decided not to go for it.

[narciso]

Look at the way, the piece is written, they agree, what they want to stay in Gitmo, now
with the new soccer field;

http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-prisoners-guantanamo-agree-transfer-154849364.html

[Danube of Thought]

"two outliers"

Yeah. And Romney holds his lead. Pretty remarkable, and very encouraging. If we win in November, I will taunt the left with the claim that Sandra Fluke is what turned everything around.

[henry]

OT- the recall database site got new servers. They got $10,000 in donations and it is much faster now. Right now it is just a name search, but your favorite cartoon character might have signed.

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet]

Thanks to all for the birthday greetings yesterday. It turned out to be a great day all around. All 5 daughters, sons in law and grandchildren took Bertie and me to dinner for number 72. During the evening's festivities, it occurred to me that neither my parents nor my grandparents ever had a birthday with their whole family together at such an advanced age. It was a real blessing.

[matt]

Is Martina leading or following, Captain?

[narciso]

One wonders did Anita 'Mao is my inspiration' Dunn, craft that original pitch, before the House, because those were words 'were chosen poorly'