Jeralyn Merritt finds an earlier broadcast of the "He looks black" Zimmerman edit on the Today show. A producer was fired for the March 27 usage, so what about the March 22 use?
Some Frequently Unanswered Questions: did NBC discover the March 22 usage in the course of their internal investigation? If so, why is it being left to bloggers (from across the political spectrum!) to discover it?
Bonus FUQ: how would NBC cover a major corporation (other than GE, natch) that was being this opaque about a corporate embarrassment? Wouldn't they fake an explosion or something?
More in the previous post.
Her *very* charitable opinion on the genesis of this hit job: "While of course I have no way of knowing, it seems to me the botched editing was not an intentional attempt to smear George Zimmerman."
Hmmmm . . . I'm not so sure about that. Almost *all* of the early non-Orlando reporting on this incident has been something of an attempt to smear Zimmerman. In fact, this has been a textbook case of lazy, biased reporting geared toward left-wing biases. Isn't it ???
Posted by: RattlerGator | April 09, 2012 at 07:36 AM
Well, the executives at NBC did an extensive investigation and determined that this unfortunate editing was all just a simple mistake. Unless someone has internal emails showing it was deliberate, the narrative will now move into the “move along, nothing to see here” phase.
Damn. If only we had something else that would show a pattern of intentionally misleading editing…
Posted by: jwest | April 09, 2012 at 07:39 AM
Discovery in a libel action by Zimmerman might turn up a great deal of stuff, but I seriously doubt there will such an action.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 09, 2012 at 07:46 AM
NBC should be run out of town. Instead they will be invited to the White House.
So where are you today Dot?
Posted by: Jane (where is Jon Corzine?) | April 09, 2012 at 07:50 AM
We just docked at Bratislava, and are about to do a walking tour. Underway again at midnight; arrive Vienna tomorrow.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 09, 2012 at 07:57 AM
I don't think a libel suit by Zimmerman would be much of an emotional drain on him. He can agree to have suits proceed on contingency basis.
Posted by: cboldt | April 09, 2012 at 08:02 AM
Lat week I commented several times that the lasting message of this tragic killing will be how it hurt Obama in the election, and how it killed the credibility of the Legacy Media, much like the NBC exploding pick-up truck. Sure enought that 'real story' has begun. The legacy media worked to regad the silly trust of a whole generation of gullible millenium kids -- that'll be gone soon. Love it.
Posted by: NK | April 09, 2012 at 08:02 AM
If he wants [some of] his reputation back, a lawsuit is a good place to start.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | April 09, 2012 at 08:04 AM
The lack of any calming statement by the "post-racial" imbecile in the White House other than his typically self-centered mention of his resemblance to the victim reveals his unfitness for the job. He's had multiple opportunities to do the responsible thing for the good of the country and dropped the ball every time, ostensibly because he didn't see any personal advantage in doing so. This reveals a personal failing much more disqualifying than his ineptitude at the formal items of doing the job.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 09, 2012 at 08:09 AM
This is off topic but fabulous.
O'Keefe's latest video is of a guy going in and asking for Eric Holder's ballot, and getting it - no ID necessary. (The real Eric Holder.)
Posted by: Jane (where is Jon Corzine?) | April 09, 2012 at 08:10 AM
I am just uncertain whether a libel has occurred, though I suppose some sort of "false light" theory might fly. Interesting that NBC has not apologized to Zimmerman.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 09, 2012 at 08:12 AM
Jane that deserves it's own thread (or series of threads). Stedman may want to go back to massaging Orca's bunions to get his self-respect back.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 09, 2012 at 08:17 AM
I dunno DOT, I rarely disagree with you on legal stuff, but what has gone on with Zimmerman is clearly a malicious misrepresentation. I'd take that case.
Posted by: Jane (where is Jon Corzine?) | April 09, 2012 at 08:22 AM
--"While of course I have no way of knowing, it seems to me the botched editing was not an intentional attempt to smear George Zimmerman."--
Can someone show me one instance of one of these unintentional 'botched editings' or 'miscues' or 'failures to fully vet a source' or 'reliance on unsubstantiated claims' or any of the other myriad excuses these hacks come up with benefited a conservative or a Republican?
Posted by: Ignatz | April 09, 2012 at 08:22 AM
thinking about Sarah's link re the visit to the 7/11 and the time differential has me wondering if perhaps Martin was lost and disoriented? It was dark, the community was new to him and all the houses looking basically the same. (That has happened to me. Not everyone has good sense of direction.) Perhaps being lost, in addition to being "followed" would have made him feel paranoid and that would have sadly triggered an irrational impulse to defend himself by going on the offense.
Posted by: Chubby | April 09, 2012 at 08:47 AM
chubby,
I am with you on this. I am not saying Zimmerman is a racist and guilty of murder.
But what you said could be true. Perhaps TM started back to the apt. complex but went the wrong direction, turned back found the complex but frankly they all look the same possibly in the dark and rain he was weaving in and out checking addresses because he didn't know where he was. Then Zimmerman comes upon him, maybe scares him a bit he reacts violently, possibly in self defense himself and the rest ensues. Just a whole lot of unfortunate circumstances coming together to end in tragedy for both of them. jmho of course.
Posted by: yeah that will happen | April 09, 2012 at 09:12 AM
I'd like to see Zimmerman sue NBC now, before the Corey thing is completed and this gets lost in the noise. Libs will react with righteous indignation, forcing certain "news" outlets to cover the gross behavior of Brian Williams and his team of lefty foot-soldiers, and there's no way to cover this that makes NBC look good.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 09, 2012 at 09:13 AM
If nothing else, they've clearly committed reckless endangerment. Their purposeful lies put his life and the lives of others in danger.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | April 09, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Don Surber thinks Sharpton was a no show because even he sees the case collapsing under the spotlight. I also wonder if his media consulting position which pays him real money wasn't in jeopardy if he went on with it.
Posted by: clarice feldman | April 09, 2012 at 09:50 AM
What's that line that ends in 'enemy action' I didn't take that pattern, but it's like with Julianne's bender, there was contemporary photographic and even subsequent testimonialrebuttal, in addition to plain common sense,but that didn't serve 'the narrative' as for Uhrig, he has more of a skill set, then Sonner, in that regard.
All points to the soccer scrum against Bill Lee, that was unwarranted, because they had
to make the 'perception of impropriety' stick.
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 09:54 AM
Big Red Letters at Drudge:
WHITE MAN OFFERED ERIC HOLDER'S BALLOT
I'm proud to be a Project Veritas sponsor. (Their site is down right now... Good for James O'Keefe.) Best political donations I've ever made. Real, tangible results.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 09, 2012 at 10:00 AM
CNN? Tsk, tsk...
Posted by: Extraneus | April 09, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Minus 17 at Raz today.
Leads Romney by 2.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | April 09, 2012 at 10:06 AM
They do seem to add additional brain slugs in the watercooler over there;
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/04/the-talk-what-parents-tell-their-children-about-john-derbyshire/255578/
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 10:08 AM
I thought of your support, Extraneus when Jane linked that story.
Best political donations I've ever made. Real, tangible results.
I love that. I would give to start up a new TV network too... a Breitbart Network.
Posted by: Janet | April 09, 2012 at 10:12 AM
The Atlantic still running with the Saint Trayvon picture when he's just older than a baby in swaddling clothes? Do they run one of Sully where he doesn't look like a fat slob?
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 09, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Of course taking David Brook's word on anything is a bad call,
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/conservative-confusion-over-obama-and-social-darwinism/255560/
if Holmes was denouncing Spencer in 1905,in
'Lochner' obviously it didn't take Hofstadler
to publicize in 1944,
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Clarice-FYI-- back in the day Rev-Al bailed on the Tawana Brawley clan before the 2 street lawyer-hustlers and segments of the NYC media. AND that was before Rev-Al had a paying cable gig. Rev-Al is a shameless hustler-- but stupid he's not.
Posted by: NK | April 09, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Al bailed on the Tawana Brawley clan before the 2 street lawyer-hustlers and segments of the NYC media.
He still was found guilty of slander against Pagones, along with fellow lunatics Maddox and Mason. But Al, ever the lowlife, never paid his share of the damages.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 09, 2012 at 10:41 AM
NK-
I would say that he's not stupid enough to stick around for the full frontal Biff Tannen. He still was stupid enough to pick up the S^%t Stick from the dirty end in the first place.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | April 09, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Some shows -
*Project Veritas - hosted by James O'Keefe. Uncovering lies.
*What's So Great About America - stories of why immigrants came here
*Streamline - stories of small business owners & entrepreneurs trying to navigate the red tape in different cities & offering solutions.
*A TMZ-like show following politicians & journalists. Highlight the cronyism & connections.
Posted by: Janet | April 09, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Meanwhile back at the ranch;
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/n-korea-provokes-us-planned-missile-launch-suspected-moves-towards-nuclear-test
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Looking for a little help…
Although I’m the only person in the world interested in this, I would like to ask some of the better researchers here how to get access to video that I believe was deliberately edited in a misleading manner by MSNBC.
The morning after ABC released the video of Zimmerman arriving at the police station with the narrative that he had no apparent injuries, all the other networks picked up on the story. ABC and everyone else ran the video in its entirety, which showed an officer looking at the back of Zimmerman’s head. Everyone, that is, except MSNBC.
Starting with Morning Joe and moving along through the subsequent shows until Jansen & Co., an edited version was shown that cut out the portion of the officer looking at his head. I’ve been trying to find the edited video, but to no avail. Naturally, I can find all the other videos, from CNN, ABC, CBS and even NBC and MSNBC, but not the one that is edited. When I do find an embedded video on one of the programs I believe showed the edited version, I get a message that the video is private.
http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10924813-george-zimmermans-father-says-trayvon-martin-threatened-to-kill-his-son
Since all the other videos are available, why is this one private and how do I find a way to view it?
Posted by: jwest | April 09, 2012 at 10:49 AM
You've got talent, Janet.
Posted by: Extraneus | April 09, 2012 at 10:49 AM
I think the Daily Caller picked up on, as well as Breitbart, jwest,
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 10:51 AM
I'm glad that the proprietor here reads the NY Times and pays attention to the Today show and other assorted drivel, because I am rapidly losing the stomach for it.
I pretty much think at thispoint that the people who write for the Times, and the WaPo (and the Atlantic, as linked in a couple of comments above) and the folks who believe what is written there, must be living in a parallel universe.
There's just no way to reconcile the conversations here and the things I observe in the world, with what's reported by the MSM.
It goes beyond lying, or simple lust for power. It seems like most of them really and truly believe the crap they spew out.
Posted by: James D. | April 09, 2012 at 10:53 AM
John Fund on the latest Project Veritas sting:
This is one reason why O'Keefe needs money.Posted by: Extraneus | April 09, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Here we go, but even the DC doesn't make it easy to find it, you have to know what you're looking for;
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/police-surveillance-video-of-zimmerman-may-show-head-injury/
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 10:58 AM
I think a lot of it is laziness, James D.. The MFM is fed news stories by lib flotsam out there.
Just like Congressmen don't write legislation anymore...it is lib flotsam that puts it together for them & they just are the salespeople.
Posted by: Janet | April 09, 2012 at 11:01 AM
jwest - here is a post on the video at Conservative Treehouse.
Posted by: Janet | April 09, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Narciso, The Daily Caller article you linked to has the embedded video that shows the officer touching Zimmerman’s back, wiping his hand on his pants, then looking at the back of his head.
This is the full video that ABC released and tells the whole story. If MSNBC had run this, I wouldn’t have any problem. What they did run during the programs I mentioned was an edited version, in which the portion of the officer touching Zimmerman’s back and looking at his head was cut out. I am assuming that this was edited because it conflicted with the storyline that there were no apparent injuries.
Now, the videos embedded at the shows I believe ran this edited version are marked “private”.
Posted by: jwest | April 09, 2012 at 11:08 AM
They lie, Jwest, we've seen this in other instances, and one struggles to keep up, the scenario is much like Tom Wolfe prophesied
a quarter century ago in 'Bonfire'
Posted by: narciso | April 09, 2012 at 11:14 AM
This is one reason why O'Keefe needs money.
The sad fact is that Stedman can make O'Keefe's life very unpleasant if he decides to do so. The left loves to claim that they're for whistleblowers until they're the ones in power. Ask Linda Tripp what the penalty is for telling the truth.
Posted by: Captain Hate | April 09, 2012 at 11:15 AM
I haven't read every comment, hopefully I am the first to comment on Tom Maguires FILTHY FILTHY LANGUAGE!!!
BONUS FUQ?????
I am offended.
Posted by: Gus | April 09, 2012 at 11:22 AM
What makes this editing of the arrival video significant is that the officer who searches Zimmerman and subsequently looks at the back of his head is a receiving officer who met the squad car as it pulled in. This is about 40 minutes after the incident, and the officer in question has not read the yet-to-be-written report that mentions the injuries. He had no way of knowing of any alleged injuries except what was physically apparent to him.
Obviously, if the narrative was that Zimmerman had no apparent injuries, what is the officer doing looking so intently at the back of his head? It is my contention that the producers at MSNBC noticed that this portion of the video conflicted with the storyline and decided to remove the offending few seconds so that their viewers weren’t confused by the facts.
More importantly, if this edited video can be found and traced back to the source of who made the cuts, it could help show there was a pattern of deceptive editing throughout NBC/MSNBC that was tolerated, if not encouraged, by management. If this theory is correct, it would explain why whoever edited the video went back and “disappeared” it.
Posted by: jwest | April 09, 2012 at 11:32 AM
MelR said: "He still was stupid enough to pick up the S^%t Stick from the dirty end in the first place."
True enough, but the dirty end of the "Stick" IS Rev-Al's stock in trade, just like any other race hustler. Rev-Al manages to grease the white lib reporters just enough to dance away through the raindrops, then repeat the same sorry street theater next time. Today, he's got a seven figure MSNBC gig 15 years after he instigated a race lynching at Freddie's Shoe Mart. Rev-Al's got manipulative talent, no denying that.
Posted by: NK | April 09, 2012 at 11:33 AM
CaptHate-- the difference between O'Keefe and Rev Al are their respective audiences. When Rev-Al is exposed as a violence instigating race hustler, his black audience doesn't care and his white Lib audience looks the other way and chalks up the criticism to 'racism' PLUS the media covers for Al. O'keefe will get squashed by Holder at some point when he does something using real bad judgment. At that point, O'keefe's audience will abandon him, because we are law abiding rules following folks, and we'll all say tsk tsk, that wasn't right. Then the media will pile on and make O'keefe's bad judgment a major story. It's a huge competitive disadvantage for the Right.
Posted by: NK | April 09, 2012 at 11:39 AM
NBC stated in the Reuters interview that the edit was made to fit the tape into a very narrow time slice of the broadcast. While that excuse might fly once (they had to cut 2.3 seconds or some similar baloney) it does not work so well with multiple uses of the edited tape on multiple programs. The fact that it was edited by the Miami local station first who then got a Jay Carney quote from the WH on how horrible the quote was once edited further shows intent to inflame with the approval of the WH.
Posted by: Bob | April 09, 2012 at 01:37 PM
"At that point,
O'keefeDerbyshire's audience will abandon him, because we arelaw abiding rules followingnot racist folks, and we'll all say tsk tsk, that wasn't right. Then the media will pile on and makeO'keefeDerbyshire's bad judgment a major story. It's a huge competitive disadvantage for the Right."Posted by: Frau Ostermontag | April 09, 2012 at 02:05 PM
" ... What makes this editing of the arrival video significant is that the officer who searches Zimmerman and subsequently looks at the back of his head is a receiving officer who met the squad car as it pulled in. ..."
jwest, what makes you say this? How do we know that this officer is just a "receiving" officer and not one that was on scene, too?
Posted by: fdcol63 | April 09, 2012 at 02:25 PM
In the video, we can see that this particular officer is waiting as the squad car comes into the station. The officer that drove gets out of the vehicle and moves around to the trunk while the receiving officer searches Zimmerman.
I probably didn’t word the original statement very well. My point of the whole editing of the video is that MSNBC cut out the portion that officer looked at the back of Zimmerman’s head, as that didn’t fit with the narrative they wanted. No other network edited the tape that way.
Now, the edited video is missing - hidden beneath a “private” label.
Posted by: jwest | April 09, 2012 at 04:03 PM
jwest, I agree with your main point.
However, unless other informatiom is available to contradict my belief, I think this particular officer very well could have been an officer who had been on scene, perhaps a backup officer to the primary responding or reporting officer, and who went to meet that officer or the transporting officer with GZ in the SPD's Sally port for GZ's questioning or to complete his paper work.
He could have been already aware of GZ's injury, and was just checking to make sure the bleeding was still stopped or whatever.
Posted by: fdcol63 | April 09, 2012 at 04:28 PM
"Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action."
Posted by: Annoying Old Guy | April 11, 2012 at 09:52 AM