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April 27, 2012


Let's eat Kids.

The more I know of this administration, the better I like the way dogs taste.

Jack is Back!

Walking our new puppy a few minutes ago, we saw a "black racer" snake slithering away and startling poor Bandit.

Reminds me of the subject of this thread.

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

YAY! Rep Gowty was on Greta last night talking about defunding the DOJ if they don't comply. Boehner seems a little hesitant. I would love to see it. I can't think of one just thing the DOJ has done in 3.5 years.


Matches the utter contempt I have for this administration. There are no ambits for me.

Jack is Back!

Notice any similarities?


I have contempt for Holder.

Where do I sign.


I'm beginning to think that Diocletian, one of my Fav Roman Emperors, had a pretty good idea back in 293 AD.

That's when he decided that the former Roman Republic was just too big to handle for one guy, so he decided he needed a co-Emperor to handle some of the pressing duties.

I'm pretty sure we're at the same point, so I suggest that Obama announce that for the Nov 2012 Election, we vote for a President to do the job of Commander in Chief, and also vote for a co-President to do the comedy shows and the College Campi and Golf Outings and the Rolling Stone Interviews.

For the record, Diocletian was initially into treating Christians like an EPA Region VI Director, but by the time he retired in 305 he had got over it.

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)


That's the best picture of Holder I've seen in a long time.


here is some really interesting stuff going on right now. You may want to check it out. I tried to summarize some of it LUN.


Get in line. Hell I have contempt for Holder.


that's only because he ran out of readily available Christians, daddy.

Who enforces contempt citations? Is it a fine or does he get hard time? Enquiring minds want to know!


Holder is a black racist. I can't wait til he goes to prison.
Theh other "prisoners" will LOVE Holders WEAK CHIN.

He's the black Frank Burns.


I love the title of this thread because it summarizes how I feel about Holder. That he is still in office is a definite loser for Obama. I bet his continued prescence costs Obama many many votes. People dislike his arrogance, racism and high-handedness. Boehner is smart. Get all your repub ducks in a row and then strike- Preferably near election time when the public is paying attention. Holder under the bus in 3 months. He is a political liability.No deal will be struck because he has pissed everybody off.


"here is some really interesting stuff going on right now. You may want to check it out. I tried to summarize some of it LUN."

Excuse me, but what is LUN?


That was great Matt. I particularly loved the pix and the Pakistani punishment.

I wonder if there will a document dump tonite. I also wonder if Holder is scared to death. And I'd bet money there are docs that implicate Obama in F&F.

Have Blue


I assume it means "Link Under Name". Basically means that the link they refer to is in their signature.

I only figured it out a few days ago. Before that I thought I needed to find this great news aggregator that had a web site called LUN.


Thank you, Have Blue.

I've been trying to figure it out for days. lol

"I only figured it out a few days ago. Before that I thought I needed to find this great news aggregator that had a web site called LUN."

That's exactly what I was thinking too!

Have Blue

And oddly enough Obumbles had to give weapons to the drug cartels in order to get enough US sourced weapons into their hands to justify his crackdown on private gun ownership.

Rick Ballard

The JoM news aggregator is named Narciso. We have constant and pertinent links in all threads all the time due to the incredible efficiency of the aggregator.


I disagree with TomM-- Holder doesn't "hide" his contempt for Congress. he's quite open about it.


This is great:

The Hollywood studio run by one of President Obama’s biggest donors is under investigation by the Securities Exchange Commission for bribing Chinese officials to secure exclusive film rights in the communist country—rights secured in secretive negotiations that included Vice President Joe Biden.



Holder will end up in prison.


Progressive Democrats -- an oxymoron if there ever was one.

Few realize the Democratic Socialists of America are the only official affiliation of the Socialist Internationale, and the only SI affiliation among the officially sanctioned SI political parties of other nations that is not itself a national political party. Further, the USA is the only major nation without an officially sanctioned SI affiliated political party -- the only one. Go figure?

The DSA spawned The New Party, of which our president, Barack Obama apparently first ran for elective political office.

Today the DSA dominates the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the Congressional Blaque Caucus. Both appear to be 5th Column infiltrations sponsored in part by the SI and seeking to change our government form and structure to conform to the SI-supported global model of interwoven national governments, doing so in material deference to our national sovereignty; and not very transparently.

But such progressivism is circa 1840 "progressive" and the birther of heinous things like Phrenology which masquerade as establish science. The SI affiliates and sycophants have long history promoting such 'established science' Karl Popper characterized as "scientism."

What do we see today infiltrating and usurping control of the national Democratic Party? Who has taken control of the DNC and the present government hegemony controlled by same?

1. Carpetbaggers
2. Parlor Bigots
3. An emerging postmodern mafia of insiders

As one former official of the former Soviet Union once confided to me: "One can only properly understand progressive socialism in one way. One must learn to see it as a grand criminal conspiracy to understand how it really works. Socialism is Mafia conducted as local, state and national government. The term 'communism' was just a distraction to blind the west to the creeping ennui of the utopian international socialist movement, just as Beria intended"

We still underestimate the genius of Beria and the depth of the damage done via his operatives (Alinsky, for one) to our national culture and national mental health.


From your lips to God's ears, Gus.

Captain Hate

Holder doesn't "hide" his contempt for Congress. he's quite open about it.

Has the chinless skidmark contacted Brian Terry's family yet? The pile of garbage that he unleashed about not getting any credit for the insignificant excuses for accomplishments during the F&F hearings revealed the extent of his self absorption. Just like his boss.


captH-- good point. Holder is open in his contempt for his agents as well.


Aw shucks, Rick.


Right you are, Ben. The behavior of the democrats is adequately explained by ignorance, mendacity, and avarice.

No need for a conspiracy theory.


Save a little contempt for Obama

Try this thought experiment: You decide to donate money to Mitt Romney. You want change in the Oval Office, so you engage in your democratic right to send a check.

Several days later, President Barack Obama, the most powerful man on the planet, singles you out by name. His campaign brands you a Romney donor, shames you for “betting against America,” and accuses you of having a “less-than-reputable” record. The message from the man who controls the Justice Department (which can indict you), the SEC (which can fine you), and the IRS (which can audit you), is clear: You made a mistake donating that money.

Are you worried?

Richard Nixon’s “enemies list” appalled the country for the simple reason that presidents hold a unique trust. Unlike senators or
congressmen, presidents alone represent all Americans. Their powers—to jail, to fine, to bankrupt—are also so vast as to require restraint. Any president who targets a private citizen for his politics is de facto engaged in government intimidation and threats. This is why presidents since Nixon have carefully avoided the practice.

Save Mr. Obama, who acknowledges no rules. This past week, one of his campaign websites posted an item entitled “Behind the curtain: A brief history of Romney’s donors.” In the post, the Obama campaign named and shamed eight private citizens who had donated to his opponent. Describing the givers as all having “less-than-reputable records,” the post went on to make the extraordinary accusations that “quite a few” have also been “on the wrong side of the law” and profiting at “the expense of so many Americans.”

These are people like Paul Schorr and Sam and Jeffrey Fox, investors who the site outed for the crime of having “outsourced” jobs. T. Martin Fiorentino is scored for his work for a firm that forecloses on homes. Louis Bacon (a hedge-fund manager), Kent Burton (a “lobbyist”) and Thomas O’Malley (an energy CEO) stand accused of profiting from oil. Frank VanderSloot, the CEO of a home-products firm, is slimed as a “bitter foe of the gay rights movement.”

Have Blue


It beclowns itself.

Under Bush there was an effort to investigate and prevent the running of guns to Mexican drug cartels.

Under Obumbles guns were bought with US stimulus funds and given to Mexican drug cartels in order to manufacture evidence that would support a crackdown on private gun ownership in this country.

Rob Crawford

Daddy -- Diocletian's divided empire didn't last six months past his abdication, and led eventually to a series of civil wars that only ended with Constantine.

But his cabbages were supposedly divine.

Jack is Back!

If anyone answers that comment at 4:41 then they need a babysitter.


The JoM news aggregator is named Narciso.

Yes it is! And he is really good at it too!

Rob Crawford

Under Obumbles guns were bought with US stimulus funds and given to Mexican drug cartels in order to manufacture evidence that would support a crackdown on private gun ownership in this country.

The Wan's administration ORDERED dealers to make illegal sales. This wasn't just on the border; at least one Indianapolis dealer was being investigated for "unusually large numbers of crime guns" coming from their store until their lawyers reminded the ATF that the sales had been OK'd/ordered to go through by ATF agents.

"Not enough people to regulate" doesn't explain why people were ordered (by the regulatory body that could destroy their livelihood) to make illegal sales.

Have Blue

Correct in all you wrote Rob. However do not forget that in one case 10 million in stimulus funds were used to fund a scheme in which federal agents gave money to "confidential informants" to buy weapons which were then passed on to cartel members.

Rob Crawford

Have Blue -- ISTR there was also a State Department operation that sold a cartel weapons.


narciso is GREAT! And he has an incredible memory. Sorry you newbies were flailing about re LUN. I just didn't notice you out there. Welcome to the Hotl JOM, You can never check out.


ha ha, Clarice. (So, that is what happened to all of us who wandered in years ago!)


Thank you. I was puzzled by LUN as well


So Bammers is all in now on his "I Got Bin Laden" plan for the election.

His web site is apparently running an absurd claim that somehow Romney would not have ordered the assault, while he is using the war room at the White House as his studio for an interview with NBC. We can probably expect Hillay, Panetta, and any and all other of the political side to be out there as well.

Maybe Obama can then trot out a couple of SEAL's for the Convention.

I am going to guess that this was planned the day they killed Bin Laden.


Has anyone thought about putting LUN in the urban dictionary? That bit of JOMmer cant never fails to trip people up.


Welcome all new commenters (or newly commenting, long-time readers).

We've gotten some great folks on board in the last few prolific weeks on JOM.


Yes, we have Porchlight!

With all this talk of LUN - I am reminded of my first nervous foray here into the Hotl JOM (yay, Clarice) when I had no idea what it meant either. Do our JOM historians remember who first coined LUN?

P.S. New commenters might like to know that if they use Firefox with the Text Editor add-on, they will not have to use LUN for linking, but can include them right in their comments.


Maybe Obama can then trot out a couple of SEAL's for the Convention.

I bet Bo is looking mighty tasty right about now.

Was hoping to get a student loans thread? What was the story about the vote?


Speaking of contempt--Miami-Dade taxpayers out to be buying hatchets and heading for City Hall


Do our JOM historians remember who first coined LUN?

I want to say it was Jane...not sure, though..



I think it was kim of many names? Not sure, but hit could find the comment.


I want to say it was Jane...not sure, though..

Or maybe bad? Quick google search finds a LUN from her back in 2008...


Neo, that was great. These eight are the "crucified" that warn future Romney donors.

It is a pattern.


kim, yes...or possibly cathyf.

My Google subscription does not show any LUN usage before 2008, fwiw.


Hi Caro! Long time no see!

I didn't understand it at first, either.

Nope, not me, but I always use L!ink U!nder N!ame for the benefit of newbies.


Don't know where, but I believe Biden recently said Obama will run on this mantra: Bin Laden Dead, General Motors Alive.

Danube of Thought

The Hill:

A spokesman for the House Oversight Committee said reports that the committee met with Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) office about moving ahead with a contempt of Congress citation against Attorney General Eric Holder are false.

“While the committee continues to move toward consideration of contempt, it is important to note that the next step in the process of contempt must be made by the Oversight Committee,” a committee spokesman told The Hill in an email. “Reports, based on anonymous sources, that decisions for consideration of contempt on the House floor have already been made are inaccurate.”


Just as twitter has so many of us adding hash tags to blog comments, I've found myself using LUN in comments on other blogs... #colloquialinterspeak


"But his cabbages were supposedly divine."


Years back I visited the remains of his palace in Split Yugoslavia, where he wrote letters about those cabbages. That was a point that always intrigued me about him, both that he voluntarily left office instead of being murdered by rivals, and that he took such delight in growing vegetables. I have a soft spot for the ruthless old pragmatist.

I thought it interesting in a recent bio of Constantine, that apparently Constantine was held in essence as a hostage by Diocletian to prevent Junior Emperor of the east Constantius (Constantine's dad) from getting out of hand. The book said Diocletian took a liking to Constantine and gave him big responsibility and trained him well by giving him various military and civil commands.

Book seemed to say, because the history was vague, that suspicion is that Constantine fled from under Diocletian's thumb and made it up to England to join his dad, where upon his dad's death in I think 306, Constantine was declared the new co-Emperor by his dad's troops.

A fascinating time in history all around.

Captain Hate

Old dog, no new tricks: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2012/04/26/nyts-gail-collins-ignores-obamas-dog-dinners-brings-romneys-crate-gate-



Same here. I found one from Jane and another one from DoT! I'm sure there was a thread though when 'check this link that is under my name' became "lun".

Anyway, another cup of coffee, then to work.


It's left unclear, but it might Lenski who is the source, who knew late Roman history
was so interesting,

Constantine was held as something of a hostage, a tool to ensure Constantius' best behaviour. Constantine was nonetheless a prominent member of the court: he fought for Diocletian and Galerius in Asia, and served in a variety of tribunates; he campaigned against barbarians on the Danube in 296, and fought the Persians under Diocletian in Syria (297) and under Galerius in Mesopotamia (298–99).[43


By this I mean;


Pitzies might buy it, along with Volts.

You would, Dana; it's superficially strong. Obama didn't get Bin Laden and he didn't save General Motors.

hit and run

LUN originated with our JMax voting in the fall of 2007.

I came up with the concept - putting the link to the voting site for JMax in my name. "Click hit and run to vote!!!"

Jane's the one that coined the concept into the now universally accepted "LUN"


Joe Biden has a perfect out--He's certifiably too dumb to know what he was doing.

hit and run

For the newbies. JMax is the daughter of JOM commenter GMax. JMax was a senior at the University of North Carolina and was an All-American captain of the soccer team on the reigning national championship team. She was included in a national contest to determine the female college soccer player of the year -- and GMax solicited our help. We voted our hearts out,but alas JMax didn't win.

But I did.

I went to the UNC 8-1 victory over High Point University that fall of 2007 with my family. I got to meet GMax and JMax after the game -- along with my little princess hit and run, who still talks about JMax to this day.

She has two games tomorrow! (princess hit and run, not JMax)


Hit! Yes, I remember voting (multiple times) for JMax. You are now the Mark Knoller Historian of JOM.


Well one recalls that Galbraith lucked out on an oil connection, in the Kurdish territories,
which just happened to mirror the partition advice he gave to Biden,


There ought to be some kind of a reward for finding "300 never driven Priuses". Just consider if it had been like some of the letters the Post Office delivers 60 years late.


Vote JMax! Knew that hit had the answer.


It's more like where they stored the Ark, pagar, after they took it out of Indy's hands.

hit and run

Has anyone thought about putting LUN in the urban dictionary? That bit of JOMmer cant never fails to trip people up.

From: "[email protected]"
To: [hit and run]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: Urban Dictionary - LUN

Thanks for your definition of LUN!

There's one more step: click this link to review and confirm the definition.

If you didn't request this email, please ignore it.

Urban Dictionary


HEH, narciso about the Ark and that's right about Galbraith who definitely cleaned up on the Kurdish oil.


"Do our JOM historians remember who first coined LUN?"

Moi, Twas my proudest moment....



Ventured briefly to look at the urban dictionary. YIKE!


Go Princess! Enjoy it Hit, they grow up fast and someday there wont be soccer games to watch...


Oh and JMax won the fan voting ( thanks to the very dedicated voting of JOM ) but Lowe's retained the right to select the award winner, and the picked the girl from Stanford ( who was a very fine choice ).

This place is the best.


Pressure seems to be building. And, I suspect that if Holder and his DoJ don't back down and start to provide the requested documents, that we may well see him found in contempt of Congress.

Talking heads yesterday pointed out that it would likely be hard to get from the contempt of Congress to actually getting the documents. Can't really take the contempt citation or whatever from Congress to the DoJ or a US Attorney and expect them to enforce it against their boss. But... That isn't what is really important here. Rather, I see Contempt of Congress here like Bill Clinton getting found in contempt of court and having his law license suspended for 5 years. i.e. "The Obama Administration was so corrupt that its Attorney General was found in Contempt of Congress for covering up the scandals in his department". Not what the Obama people want to see plastered everywhere, esp. after claiming to be the most transparent Administration in history when they ran four years ago. Try maybe the most corrupt of our lifetimes.


I wonder if Congress couldn't hire special counsel to represent it in contempt proceedings.


I think they should hire you Clarice, and then you can hire the rest of us to help. I'd be willing to actually deal with the law if it would get Holder.

I wonder if Congress couldn't hire special counsel to represent it in contempt proceedings.
I think that likely, though they do have their own attorneys. A friend worked for a member of Congress, and then for the Judiciary Committee there as such. But, they are likely fairly specialized. At least at the state level, you see this routinely - for example, here in Colorado, the legislature hired counsel to defend legislation that they had enacted, and the AG refused to support. Indeed, he was on the other side of the issue.

I remember voting for Jmax multiple times and what fun we had!
H&R: yes I agree with Gmax .hey do grow up very quickly. My husband and I were recalling the fun days of Little League on an evenibg walk last night.
Gmax: How is Jmax doing now?

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