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April 20, 2012

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cboldt

@7:00 is not cboldt. I'm outta here. Thanks for the fish.

I'll bet he went to the hospital after being released.

I, too, trust the judgement of the Sanford Fire EMTs, but they could neither clear him medically, nor could they insist he be transported. This was the police's decision, and they erred, but got lucky.
=============

narciso

So if De Rionda will be presenting the state's case, what function does Crump really
serve in the trial, besides agitprop.

I've met Poole, briefly, nothing gets by him;

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/20/fbi-reverses-course-on-intel-sharing-shutdown-after-pjm-reporting/#respond

Bob

UNIDENTIFIED MALE [de la R, I think]: Did he also not state that at some point, he the defendant -- did he not state or claim that the victim in this case, Mr. Martin, put both hands one over his mouth and one over his nose so that he couldn't breathe?
GILBREATH: Yes.

So why would Trayvon be covering up Zimmerman's mouth if Zimmerman wasn't hollering and yelling for help? There is another Crump/media fabrication down the drain. Trayvon wasn't screaming for help, he was trying to shut Zimmerman up before the entire population of the complex ran out and saw him on top of Zimmerman.

Tom Maguire

If any or all cboldts care to comment on the disclosure question we would welcome their thoughts.

I see this in the 3rd transcript:

LESTER: All right, there were other issues. I think yesterday the press was somewhat concerned that we were holding a hearing outside of their presence....

[He cites security concerns and]

In light of that, I'm going to have to work and I'm going to rely upon the state and the defense to assist me as far as what to do with the court file because the media absolutely has a right to the court file. The state understands that. The defense understands that.

I think at a preliminary we need to work toward getting that information to the media with the redacted version as far as addresses and names. Can the state and defense advice me if you have any objection with me working toward that right now?

I'll give you the final product, so you can OK it before anything's released. We can get that to the media as quickly as possible and then we'll tentatively set a hearing for next Friday at 9:00 to allow the media to go ahead and, if they any further concerns at this time, to go ahead and voice them.

But I think if we can get that product to them immediately, I think that will alleviate a lot of the concerns they have with not being kept up to speed and being able to (INAUDIBLE). Is that OK with you?

DE LA RIONDA: Your Honor, if I may address the court, in fairness to defense council, I have not provided discovery and I think, quite frankly, (INAUDIBLE) until I provide Mr. O'Mara discovery and I know Mr. O'Mara and I have spoken before.

There's some issues that I think both sides - I know I will concur with Mr. O'Mara - should not be subject to the public knowing about, including statements, et cetera, and I think we can address those with the court at a later date.

LESTER: All right, I think what we can do there, Mr. O'Mara, if you agree that you two can work it out and if you think there's an area of concern, you can go ahead and approach the court by motion and we can have that heard and then we can discuss it.

But with respect what's in the file here today, it's fairly thin as far as ...

DE LA RIONDA: I apologize. I agree as to what's in the file right now. I apologize. That's correct.

Had he already ruled on the media motion to open the file? I am drawing a perfect blank there, although I recall cboldt providing a link to the docket.

As to the news that discovery has not yet happened and the file "is light", interesting.

Vader

I don't get it.

The prosecution admitted in open court that they have no evidence Zimmerman followed Martin after being told not to.

The prosecution admitted in open court that they have no evidence Martin didn't attack first.

The prosecution admitted in open court that Zimmerman had wounds on the back of his head consistent with his head being bashed against concrete.

Why isn't the judge dismissing the charges? Even if everything the prosecution claims to actually have evidence for is true, it isn't enough to establish that a crime took place. There's no probably cause.

narciso

W hat we always suspected, but they make it quite clear;


http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/20/in-government-docs-media-matters-admits-its-anti-christian-agenda/#comments

narciso

Well they took money from Madoff for a long time.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/jon-corzine-still-bundling-obama_640493.html

Jack is Back!

TM,

Of course the file is light. Like a feather.

Remember at the end when talking about GZ's restrictions the parlay back in forth about talking to witnesses and de la Rionda shrugging off the defense's because there wern't that many to matter.

This is going to end badly for Corey, Bondi and Scott. We in Florida are stunned its got this far. BTW, more Hispanics in Florida than Blacks.

PaulV

Vader, the hearing was for bail, not to dismiss charges

narciso

I had expected more from her, because of the record you had outlined JIB, Ever since he signed up McNamara as his chief of staff, Scott's been backtracking, even before, but
iy was ok to slash the local budgets down here.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/04/two_uighur_gitmo_det.php

narciso

And other one of those 'innocent shepherds' went rabid I guess;

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/04/ex-gitmo_detainee_de_1.php

windansea

We in Florida are stunned its got this far. BTW, more Hispanics in Florida than Blacks.

correct, and unless the hispanics have been paying attention, they probably still think this is a case where a white guy named Zimmerman killed a black kid.

BlahBlahBlah

"Sorry about that imitation of cboldt but I had posted that earlier to show that anyone can be a sock puppet."
Posted by: Jack is Back!

Real cboldt = Not real cboldt =


So no, while imitators may try, there can only be one true "C Boldt!"


(and now, ideally, a hole bunch of you will have the same image in their head that I see when I read his name)

Danube of Thought

"the Judge will ask himself, why didn't GZ stay by his truck as the dispatcher asked, why did he follow TMartin? "

Two different events. He followed him initially, but after the "don't need" exchange the only evidence is that he was indeed returning to his truck.

I was encouraged by what I saw from this judge. I won't be shocked if he tosses it at the immunity stage. The alternative is to be party to a farcical injustice.

AliceH

While I impatiently await an actual lawyer or cboldt-er response, here's my explanation.

I understood the file/media thing as follows:
1) Certain legal documents such as docket schedules, motions, pleadings, etc. are by default Public
2) A cautionary move was made by O'Mara requesting all court docs related to this case be sealed
3) Motion to seal granted as a temp measure, with more granular decision of what to make public vs. not to be determined by judge
4) the media filed to get what they general have access to
5) the judge is going to work w/ state and defense to allow as much of what is generally public as both sides agree is not going to adversely affect their cases or compromise the safety of their witnesses.
6) the file is "thin" right now because the only thing in it is the affidavit and Arthur hearing stuff

Les Nessman

"The prosecution admitted in open court that they have no evidence Zimmerman followed Martin after being told not to."

I wish everyone would stop saying Zimmerman was 'told not to' follow Martin. That is a false statement.

He was NOT 'told' anything about following Martin. The 911 operator (who is NOT a police officer) SUGGESTED to Zimmerman that he not follow Martin. Big difference.

Plus, it appears that Zimmerman heeded the suggestion and went back towards his vehicle!

BlahBlahBlah

"correct, and unless the hispanics have been paying attention, they probably still think this is a case where a white guy named Zimmerman killed a black kid."

That is, until they see the first image on a TV or Newspaper from the actual court appearances.

narciso

What Pelosi was suggesting, in it's complete
horrible form;

http://volokh.com/2012/04/20/congressman-proposes-amendment-to-strip-most-newspapers-churches-nonprofits-and-other-corporations-of-all-constitutional-rights/

rse

ABC trying to have it both ways. I guess they don't want anyone boycotting disneyworld because of this.

Led with picture but the maroon shirt 7th grade of TM still.

Then brings on a breathless Dan Abrams about how GZ hurt himself deciding to testify today.

And clarice-neither of us seems to have any patience with too much jewelry.

Tacky. Tacky. Tacky.

BlahBlahBlah

"He was NOT 'told' anything about following Martin. The 911 operator (who is NOT a police officer) SUGGESTED to Zimmerman that he not follow Martin. Big difference."

The dispatcher didnt even do that - they merely presented an option saying it isnt needed.

It isnt needed =/= an order, suggestion or even personal opinion. It is solely "do what you want, but not on our account" and nothing more

Not the Real cboldt

Real cboldt = Not real cboldt=

Got cboldt's avatar on my first try so unfortunately that's no clue to sock puppets either, blah,blah,etc.

Clarice

Alice, I believe the file they are talking about in the cited exchange in the prosecution's file , listing evidence they amassed and witnesses they interviewed and what they said. .

AliceH

Clarice@8:06 then that would not have anything to do with the motions made by various media, would it? That's not information typically provided during an active investigation or hearing/trial.

cboldt

TM: -- Had he already ruled on the media motion to open the file? --


No. But sort of. Judge Lester said that the media is entitled to the material. Period. That is a ruling of sorts, but it isn't answered in writing in response to media motions.


I'm a bit confused by O'Mara's remark that there is a hearing Tuesday at 9:00 before a different Circuit Judge, regarding media access. No matter, seems the Court wants to get everything out in public except for witness names and material that can lead to finding witnesses.


The "court files" is everything filed so far, much of it being media cruft, bellyaching that they can't get some information to misrepresent.


Next week Friday, Lester will probably release the "court file" that has been redacted and reviewed by O'Mara, Corey's crack prosecutors, and Judge Lester. Media motions come out with no redaction; material supporting the state's charging affidavit will be redacted of witness identifying artifacts. There may be other motions in there as well, like that Notice of Discovery that I have been looking for.


Going forward, there may similar witness ID issues with some of the filings, but the real interesting material that is produced to either side in discovery isn't part of the public record in any event. Not until it appears in a pleading or response.

Link to the Docket, in case you lost the other one.

Not the Real cboldt

Way OT, but I've long thought this is the single prettiest piece of music ever written and is here played by the guy who played it better than anyone, IMO. He just died a couple of months ago.

cboldt

-- So no, while imitators may try, there can only be one true "C Boldt!" --


I'm the one in the pink skirt, back to.

Jane

'At Red Sox game, President Obama comes on big screen to recognize Fenway's 100th anniversary, followed by loud chorus of boos.'

For the first time in my adult lifetime I can say I am proud of my city!

Ignatz

Oops, forgot to change back to Ignatz after demonstrating how easy it to is to match avatars if one is inclined to sock puppet.

BlahBlahBlah

"Got cboldt's avatar on my first try so unfortunately that's no clue to sock puppets either, blah,blah,etc."

Well booo :(


...But that's okay - the real point of my post was little more then to get everyone thinking "Steve Holt!" when he posts anyway.


in fact, can we just start a petition to make this his little icon thingy?

Banjo

When is the country going to see the photo of a surly Trayvon giving the camera the finger? Any sensible person would view him with suspicion and be glad to be packing heat,

Jane

BTW, not that anyone cares but Geraldo just did a 360 degree turn from "give him the death penalty" to "maybe no one is guilty in this thing.

What a moron.

peter

He was an adolescent. Giving somebody the finger does not justify shooting. Let's keep some perspective here. The MSM has distorted what happened, but nonetheless a kid died. Some bad kids actually turn good.

Scot

Actually, Zimmerman going free or the case being thrown out will help Obama a lot. The very race mongers and mob who forced the state to file these ridiculous charges in the first place will have even more fuel if their desired outcome is thwarted. I don't think they are smart enough to have planned this outcome, but it will play to their benefit. The alternative, Zimmerman is found guilty, will energize Obama's opposition and actually serve to deflate the race-mongers argument. Their perpetual victim-hood depends on not being successful in their efforts. As satisfying as it will be to see their noses rubbed in an acquittal or dismissal, it will benefit Obama and his race-mongering allies.

AliceH

Based on the comment by cboldt@8:12, I'm giving myself an A- for my effort @7:49

cboldt


cboldt @ gravatar

Clarice

Alice H:"Clarice@8:06 then that would not have anything to do with the motions made by various media, would it? That's not information typically provided during an active investigation or hearing/trial."

In DC and the federal cts, the names and statements of witnesses are generally not given out by the prosecution until after direct examination; documents to be introduced and exhibits are generally exchanged before trial, Florida is different-the defense is entitled to see the prosecution's entire file before trial and apparently that file is also available upon motion of others like news organizations.

__Jane,well if Crump's lost geraldo...


Jim,MtnViewCA,USA

"I blame JOM for giving me this false impression [of lawyerly praiseworthiness].
Can I sue TM?"

Class action? :)

cboldt

-- not that anyone cares but Geraldo just did a 360 degree --


A 180. 360 spins all the way around once, and goes in the same direction. Okay, maybe Jerry Rivers did a 540, or a 900, those amount to reversing direction too.

AliceH: I'd give you an A.

bgates

Incidentally, I am not AliceH.

Threadkiller

Jane, I saw that. Probably the only skill Geraldo possesses is the ability to make O'Reilly jump out a window.

AliceH

Clarice - it makes sense to me that different cts/different rules, and further than FL discovery rules are as you describe. I just did not see where the prosecution's entire active file could be made available to media, with or without filing a motion. I can't quite believe that could be true. Then, so much unbelievable stuff turns out to fact.

Ignatz

Where are buub, and wee Davey boy and Kathy Kumquat this evening?
Licking their dead memes?

Danube of Thought

I'm getting worried about poor bubu. I think the day's events may hav put him in a suicidal funk. So I have composed the following...

Haiku for Bubu

See the bloody skull
Read about the broken nose
The Narrative dies

cboldt

I believe all of the police investigatory material is available as a public record. I assume that applies to Corey's team, as well. As far as I know, they have concluded the investigation - it is no longer an active investigation - so their material is also subject to release on a public records request. That is independent of action before Judge Lester.

narciso

I saw Kathy on one of the WZ threads, denying
the ludicrousness of Tommy Xtopher's attack on Romney,

Ignatz

I work in prose, DoT in verse, but the sentiment is the same. :)

cboldt

-- Where are buub, and wee Davey boy and Kathy Kumquat this evening?
Licking their dead memes?
--


Kathy retired for the duration, I think. BoogerBuster and DopeyDave are working out details of the "Zimmerman wasn't seriously injured," "So what if Martin started it," "Zimmerman proved he was a liar by changing Martin's age," "He said he was sorry which proves guilty conscience," and assorted other Crumpisms.

narciso

One recalls he wasn't toadyish enough for Keefums


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/richard-wolffe-this-dog-eating-thing-is-about-treating-obama-as-the-other/

AliceH

bgates@8:31 My rep for incisive wit and brilliant turn of phrase would skyrocket if you started commenting as me. Go for it!

cboldt

-- I just did not see where the prosecution's entire active file could be made available to media, with or without filing a motion. --


The public records request goes to the investigation. I don't know the point at which an investigation goes from "active" to "inactive," and it may be that the investigation is active even after it is concluded. The SPD investigation is done - they submitted their material to Wolfinger on March 13 or something like that. But, it may be that the state considers the investigation "open" until after appeals are exhausted.

Jay Maynard

What was this clown thinking?
Objection, your honor. Assumes facts not in evidence.

boatbuilder

So you are one of the investigators who signed the prosucution's affidavit in support of second degree murder charges in what is undoubtedly going to be the most highly publicized criminal case since OJ. You are going to take the stand as the prosecution's witness in the first public hearing in which there will be witnesses and cross examination.
Do you take the stand without reading every piece of information in the investigative file, to make sure you don't get blindsided? Of course you do!
Unless...you are told not to. You aren't supposed to know.
The prosecution isn't hiding their key witnesses. They know damn well they don't have a case. This is "stovepiped," so that Galbreath can credibly testify in support of the affidavit while not committing perjury. If he had looked at the EMT report he couldn't in good faith have signed the affidavit.
And they charge murder 2 so that there is no presumption that the defendant should be free on bail.
They are doing this purely for the political optics. It really smells.

Clarice

Actually, I think it was a bold, probably unconventional moe on O'Mara's part to call Galbreath to the stand. He did it cause he knows this case is rap.

Clarice

**MoVe* *ccase is Crap*

Neshobanakni

I believe this trial will be important for reminding Hispanics of who they really are. Yes, a small percentage are black. Many are mestizo. This sad fiasco will clarify that mestizo is still largely white - kinda like America as a whole. Or Latin America, for that matter.

narciso

So it would appear, Clarice, those that had reservations about O'Mara, who comes across
very judiciously,

boatbuilder

Even so, Clarice--the investigator doesn't know the file inside and out? Only because somebody told him not to.

cboldt

-- I think it was a bold, probably unconventional moe on O'Mara's part to call Galbreath to the stand. --


O'MARA: Thank you, your honor. I would call either Investigator Osteen or Investigator Dale Gilbreath


Guess Gilbreath drew the short straw. Then later said, "I was not planning on testifying." Maybe should have stuck Osteen on the stand, then.

cboldt

I wonder how unconventional it is, in FL, to call an investigator during an Arthur hearing. The defendant has the right to put the state to its proof. If the state is unwilling to provide affidavits from witnesses and other material in, to substantiate its case, then a defendant has the right to test the sufficiency of the evidence.


O'Mara poked a couple "doubt" holes in the murder charge, and put on a good show that there is a self defense argument. That's all he has to do to get bail.

boatbuilder

TM--If Z thought that Martin was armed, does he follow him? Without pulling his gun first (in which case the strugggle doesn't ensue)? Doesn't mention it to the cops on the police call? I don't see how his saying that he didn't know if Martin was armed or not hurts him.
And with all due respect to the professor, when the prosecutor points out that Z said the he though Martin was in his late teens and now says that he thought he was a little younger than him, the response is pretty obvious--"Yes. That was before he jumped me, broke my nose, smashed my head on the pavement and grabbed my gun, before I saw the grillwork. He was much stronger and seemed older than my initial thought."

Sara

Peter:

Martin WAS NOT and adolescent. Adolescents are preteens and maybe 13 year olds. Martin was a 6'3" tatted up young man. He was a gansta wannabe with a very shaky history at school.

I am so tired of trying to make Martin out as a child. They try 13 year olds as adults, yet Martin is just an innocent child. Makes me want to gag!

Ignatz

--bgates@8:31 My rep for incisive wit and brilliant turn of phrase would skyrocket if you started commenting as me. Go for it!--

But it just wouldn't be the same Alice.
Oh well, we'll always have Paris.

Ignatz

BTW, Hot Chick on a Bike is still running strong.
She is currently looking for motivated volunteers interested in some training in the field of push polling. Anyone?

BlahBlahBlah

OT: Okay, not sure anyone has seen it yet or not, but Legal Insurrection has an unbelievably awesome song up

link to their post:
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/catchy-tune-of-the-dog-days-of-april/

cboldt

-- I don't see how his saying that he didn't know if Martin was armed or not hurts him. --


Especially when you apply the same "filter" you did to the age/strength question. What Zimmerman thought isn't some fixed quantity. His thought about "armed or not" may change. And, from what is a reasonable inference about Zimmerman, he didn't plan to get close enough to find out if Martin had a knife, for example. Once the fight starts, the question of "is he armed" takes on a whole different level of importance, if that thought crosses your mind.


A week ago I thought Corey was a respectable prosecutor.

Threadkiller

Where they stood confirmed
Shadows are the new factoids
Identity fool...

narciso

A reasonable account, when they keep Robles away:


http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2758885/zimmerman-to-ask-for-bond-in-trayvon.html

In other news, they take exception with the composition with the SYG review panel, considering that it was supported by a strong Majority, they are quibblingk

Chubby

((BTW, not that anyone cares but Geraldo just did a 360 degree turn from "give him the death penalty" to "maybe no one is guilty in this thing.))

Did he say what specifically changed his mind?

Grypyon

In the end he walks, which is appropriate. This entire situation reeks of racist oriented jibber-jabber, but that is mere distraction from the basic question of...if you're getting your head beat down on concrete, can you respond with force? Damned right; I'd have shot the little snot as well.

AliceH

Aw, Ig. You said something nice about me and then as I scroll down to reply, there's HCOB again. Ruined the moment :(

BlahBlahBlah

"Did he say what specifically changed his mind?"

Evidence; or lack there of


It was kind of strange, he was stating Zimmerman will walk free and Bill was kind of verbally attacking him claiming he was doing the same thing MSNBC is doing pre-judging the outcome when "we just dont know"

narciso

They couldn't count on Dadgum, being enough of a hack,so the Think Regress found FAiz Shakir, to shout 'look squirrel;

BlahBlahBlah

"Aw, Ig. You said something nice about me and then as I scroll down to reply, there's HCOB again. Ruined the moment :( "


Didn't ruin my moment any.


...in fact, it nearly created a moment

Ignatz

--Aw, Ig. You said something nice about me and then as I scroll down to reply, there's HCOB again. Ruined the moment :( --

Wait, what?
You're not HCOAB?

Threadkiller

"Did he say what specifically changed his mind?"

Fellow Hispanics
One accused of great whiteness
Geraldo objects

Threadkiller

Wouldn't it be a 180 turn?

Clarice

Yes, it would Tk.

Niters.

Threadkiller

Goodnight Clarice.

Chubby

things could get complicated for the Democrats if a groundswell of support builds for Zimmerman among the Hispanic community

AliceH

CNN and others will just stop televising the court proceedings if it starts looking like it hurts Obama, Chubby. Today they were just caught by surprise.

narciso

This was the book in reviewed in the Journal, I was speaking about;


http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Alger-Hiss-Why-He-Chose-Christina-Shelton/9781451655421-item.html?cookieCheck=1

boatbuilder

Haiku, TK?

AliceH

gesundheit, boatbuilder.

narciso


Ah, Legum, is just on to another hack attack on Romney's foreign policy spokesman,

Joan

Tom:
I just went to Dissenting Justice. After reading professor's response to the comments, I wished you hadn't sent me there. :)

How does someone so ignorant become a professor.

Love this blog.

Ignatz

LOL, Alice @ 10:00.

Threadkiller

DoT started it, boatbuilder.

BlahBlahBlah

Okay, don't worry all, those at the DailyKos have it all figured out...


"I have many photoshop brush sets and one of them contains brushes which follow the precise pattern of Mr Zimmerman’s wounds. If these photos and Mr Zimmerman’s word are your evidence for the idea that “there likely was a physical altercation” before Zimmerman shot an unarmed 17 year old in the chest at point blank range I suggest you find more and better evidence. I think both sets were photoshopped by two different individuals neither of whom is particularly skilled. One forgets the blood, the other forgets to photoshop the wound or the the bruising. We have an excellent mug shout of Zimmermen when he was arrested. There is no evidence of a recently broken nose either.
That said, Zimmerman instigated the violence, he was the aggressor. We have Martin’s voice screaming for help and then silenced by the gun shot just before Zimmerman shot him. It’s only ‘self defense’ no one allows Trayvon Martin that right."

(as mocked here http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=129684 )


...so, does this constitute a better clown?

Bruce
His trying too hard by half to not get pinned down, may backfire. By his own testimony, he said only 3 people were the authors, so it won't take much effort to find which of the three are responsible.
Not clear who the third person was. The first two are T.C. O’Steen and K.D. Gilbreath, with Gilbreath testifying today. In one place, he says the third was their supervisor:
O'MARA: Between who in addition to the two people who signed it as being true?

GILBREATH: Detective Osteen and I prepared the majority of this. It was reviewed by our supervisor. There were several mistakes in it. They were corrected.

O'MARA: Do you know whose word profiling was?

GILBREATH: No, I do not.

But, then later:
O'MARA: But you don't know who made the decision to solely put those two phrases in quotes?

GILBREATH: No.

O'MARA: Who was in this decision making process?

GILBREATH: As I said, Detective Osteen and myself and Bernie.

Is this the same "Bernie" Bernie de la Rionda, lead attorney for the prosecution today?

This would be worrisome for a couple of reasons. Defense counsel was trying to nail down some of the wording decisions in the affidavit sworn and signed by O'Steen and Gilbreath, including the use of the words "profile" and "confronted", putting quotes around the two statements including expletives, and why he believed that Zimmerman "falsely assumed [Martin] was going to commit a crime". Gilbreath played dumb, knowing that he didn't make the decisions, but not knowing who of the three of them did.

One issue is that Gilbreath swore to these thing, the wording and other things in the affidavit. Yet, he claims now that he had no knowledge of such. That seems a bit sketchy.

Secondly, if the prosecution attorney is indeed the third party to these decisions, isn't that sketchy itself? And, worse, what happens if and when defense counsel tries to nail down who said what and provided the controversial wording? After asking O'Steen and Gilbreath, do they get to ask "Bernie" too?

Ignatz

--We have Martin’s voice screaming for help and then silenced by the gun shot just before Zimmerman shot him.--


That grassy knoll really gets around in the Kosmos doesn't it?
Two gunmen or just one illiterate Koskiddy?

Ignatz

--...so, does this constitute a better clown?--

No but this does;

Frau Dingsbums

Haikuey... Gesundheit!

Clarice and TK
Say goodnight from coast to coast
Is this a great country?


Threadkiller

I wonder if Inspector Kos-slow will tackle forged pdf files for his next expose.

Caspar Weinburger

Worth a watch if you cannot get enough of GZ coverage

http://content.bitsontherun.com/previews/kpY9HEAV-dh3Zgtip

Strawman Cometh

"You know, it's not always the nuns that get raped. Sometimes it's strippers that get raped." — Geraldo Rivera gravely and fatuously intoning on Fox's "The O'Reilly Factor," April 2006.

and I just heard Nancy disGrace: "I thought it should have been a murder 1 charge" in response to a caller concerned that the prosecutors were overcharging.

How do these people stay employed?

BlahBlahBlah

"That grassy knoll really gets around in the Kosmos doesn't it?"

I think its brilliant really - leaves open the possibility Bush or Cheney or the Koch Bros or Rush or Palin (whoever doesn't have an alibi) was really involved and responsible in case Zimmerman gets off.


...cover all your bases, ya know...

Threadkiller

Hi Frau! My wife and I are still chuckling over Colliemari.

narciso

Blackmail, is my best bet, SC, Grace forgot the last time she was so sure, about a perpetrator, it didn't end well, but my Clear
Channel drive time host, is that much sharper.

narciso

not that much sharper, meanwhile Beck was interviewing Allen West, today, and in just a few moments, just fileted Obama's 'silver spoon comments, he said everyone who comes here,is gifted with the silver spoon of opportunity.

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