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May 04, 2012

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narciso

Maybe it was this one;


http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/nbc-miami-911-2.png

Richard Aubrey

Three separate edits with the same result:
Sure, just a mistake, three separate times.
Nothing to do with corporate culture or direction from the top.
Nope. All independent and spontaneous mistakes having the same result by means of the same kind of edit.
Suuuuuuurrre.

Extraneus

So now we're expected to believe that three people have been fired over this, but all we've read about were Jeff Burnside (who was supposedly the second person fired) and now Luciano.

Who was the other "producer," who was allegedly fired around April 6th?

narciso

Or this post might fill in the blanks;

http://www.lesjones.com/2012/04/07/nbc-fires-editor-for-altering-zimmerman-911-call-when-will-msnbc-fire-the-writer-who-did-the-same/

myiq2xu

Hey Tom, didn't you get the memo from the Ministry of Truth?

All that stuff is supposed to go down the memory hole.

narciso

What did they call it in the Nixon era, 'modified limited hangout', first 'Mikey' I mean Stelter, ushered this first anonymous producer, but there was 'no earth shattering
kaboom' to show for it, then Burnside, was thrown under the bus, now fair Lilia, 'alas, we knew her well'

dublindave

Did they edit his myspace account where he targets a specific ethnic group with threats of violence?

No,they didn't.

No member of the media should take something out of context but it happens.It is ironic to note that by taking creative license with Zimmerman's words they've probably given us a more accurate picture of the man than a thousand Sean hannity interviews.

"They always get away with it"?????Seriously,who do we think Zimmerman is refering too when he says "they".Coupled with his paranoid rant about "mexicans" always pulling knives and damadging private property it's clear this man has issues with race and ethniticity.

MarkO

"creative license"? Now, isn't that what Obama did with his autobiography? Fact or fiction? No wonder Rather thinks "fake but accurate" is an appropriate use of "facts."

Obama should be the subject of great ridicule and scorn for his "Dreams," but more so the purported journalists who are unworthy of the name.

Anyone want to join me in doom?

dublindave

Self-loathing hispanic?


African American Republican?

jwest

The video editor at MSNBC who cut out the critical portion of Zimmerman’s arrival at the police station is laughing at his good fortune that the only one who noticed it was a commenter at JOM.

Every bit as egregious and deceptive as the audio editing, when the story line of the day was Zimmerman had no injuries MSNBC cut the portion of the video where an officer looks at the back of his head. All the other networks were able to show the complete video originally obtained by ABC, but MSNBC determined that a cop looking at the back of Zimmerman’s head didn’t fit in with the narrative of no injuries.

Every other news program has video of their shows readily available for review, except for MSNBC. That particular clip is now hidden under a label that states “this video is private”. Never seen that before. So, at least for now, some unnamed leftist manipulator of images still has a job.

MarkO

Ben-Dana, Zimmerman is as black as the famous Homer Plessy. As a fine Yale man, you should not ignore his true ethnicity.

Get on board. Promote him.

PedroGomez

"it's clear this man has issues with race and ethniticity."

LOL! Someone else possesses "Crump" smarts.

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

it's clear this man has issues with race and ethniticity.

So does Eric holder, Barack Obama and the rest of the administration. Their remedy is racism. What is yours?

Extraneus

He's four times as black as Elizabeth Warren claims to be Indian.

dublindave

"creative license"? Now, isn't that what Obama did with his autobiography?

It's intellectually dishonest to use the improper edits of Zimmerman's dispatch call to suggest that he's NOT a racist.It's also a logical fallacy.If someone edited Mein kempf to make it look like Adolph Hitler had a problem with Jews would that be proof that he didn't have a serious problem with Jews?Of course not.

But that's how this little media dust up is being used,as if Zimmerman's the victim of a left-wing media conspiracy to improperly paint him as a racist.It's also a bit of a red herring because regardless of what motivated him he followed a child at night and now that child is dead.

MarkO

This smarmy lowercase irish is no e. e. cummings.

Danube of Thought

"Seriously,who do we think Zimmerman is refering too when he says 'they'"

Presumably the people who had committed the eight recent burglaries. As GZ's black neighbor pointed out, the burglars were black.

GZ is an octoroon and a Democrat.

MarkO

"he followed a child at night and now that child is dead."

That post hoc stuff confuses little lower case. "The sun rose, and now that child is dead." "Obama was elected, and now that child is dead."

Rob Crawford

It's also a bit of a red herring because regardless of what motivated him he followed a child at night and now that child is dead.

Had that "child" succeeded in his attempt to smear Zimmerman's brains across the sidewalk, that "child" would be in court, likely being tried as an adult.

Amazing how you idiots always ignore the fact that Zimmerman was attacked.

MarkO

"Nancy Pelosi lied, and now that child is dead."

PedroGomez

"dd posted, and now I am a little dumber."

Wait, maybe that does work after all.

Danube of Thought

After "night" and before "and," insert "the child attacked him, broke his nose, knocked him down, and bashed his head on the sidewalk."

DebinNC

GZ's MySpace shows many black friends. The Reuters piece showed GZ started an insurance biz with a black friend. His black female neighbor bravely defended "George". If GZ has any racism, it wouldn't seem to be with blacks who aren't acting like possible burglars.

Extraneus

I went to the john, and dublindave showed up at JOM.

Bruce

I was channel surfing last night, and ran into this segment on the O'Reilly Factor last night, in which Tavis Smiley argued that the White media was complicit in the cruel murder of this poor Black child. Just surprised that he didn't flash that angelic picture of a 14 or so year old Martin.

It is such a Bizarro world, where cause and effect are reversed, where Smiley argued that the only reason that this hate crime by the racist Zimmerman was not pursued earlier was through the active connivance of White Media, and only because of continuous pressure by Black Leadership and community, was the travesty that Zimmerman was not arrested earlier finally addressed. And, apparently, he believes that the police investigation was flawed because it didn't result in evidence to support his narrative of a white on black hate crime.

He ignores that this Black Leadership, are the ones who made this into a supposed white on black hate crime, for their own political advantage, and then the MSM jumped in and helped them further this narrative, creating evidence supporting this, when it wasn't there in the first place, by, for example, creatively editing the 911 call and video of Zimmerman.

Danube of Thought

"It's intellectually dishonest to use the improper edits of Zimmerman's dispatch call to suggest that he's NOT a racist"

It's not being used for that purpose. It's being used to demonstrate that the only purported evidence that he IS a racist was contrived and false.

(How is "intellectually dishonest" different from "dishonest?")

dublindave

Had that "child" succeeded in his attempt to smear Zimmerman's brains across the sidewalk,


Can someone please point out what aspect of human nature makes a child go out to buy an ice tea and a bag of skittles and then decide to spill someones brains on the sidewalk several yeards from their house for no reason whatsoever?

Could being hunted by an armed man at night time have played a part in the physical conflict?

EVEN a small tiny part?

Just a little teenie weenie part?

No?


Rob Crawford

I went to the john, and dublindave showed up at JOM.

Flush next time, OK?

Extraneus

Btw, I think you guys are nuts to debate with dd. He knows full well his arguments are b.s.

Trayvon and Zimmerman: The Structure and Elements of a Disinformation Campaign

Sue

I knew that Obama made the claim in the first part of his book that people were composites and times and dates were changed. What I find amusing is that the media used Obama's "biography" as truth rather than search the truth out for themselves. And Obama probably laughed at them.

AliceH

From the as is thread, but apparently needed here, also:

Didn't Tom suggest we help him by not taking the bait? Posted by: DebinNC

Thanks, DebinNC - and it needs repeating!
Posted by: centralcal

Yes, and yes.

Bruce
"he followed a child at night and now that child is dead."
But, of course, Martin wasn't a child any more. He was in the age bracket (and demographic group) that commits the most murders every year in this country. He towered over Zimmerman by maybe 6 inches. And, I will suggest, that given his dress, attitude, gold grill, and tats, that most people meeting him, esp. in the dark wearing a hoodie, would think that he was a couple years older. Don't know this, of course, but just going from the recent pictures of him, as well as his Twitters.
Rob Crawford

Could being hunted by an armed man at night time have played a part in the physical conflict?

"Hunted"?

And how did he know Zimmerman was armed? You do know what "concealed carry" means, don't you? Consider that Zimmerman had been to a store and not caused a scene or been arrested (open carry is illegal in Florida unless you're hunting or fishing). Consider that the police, on arrival, did not realize Zimmerman was armed until he told them.

Why is it so hard to believe a teenager who acted like he wanted to be a thug suddenly acted like a thug?

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

Can someone please point out what aspect of human nature makes a child go out to buy an ice tea and a bag of skittles and then decide to spill someones brains on the sidewalk several yeards from their house for no reason whatsoever?

Bad parenting.

MarkO

"A child went to 7-11, and now that child is dead."

Captain Hate

"Obama was elected, and now that child is dead."

Impeach we much

dublindave

That post hoc stuff confuses little lower case. "The sun rose, and now that child is dead." "Obama was elected, and now that child is dead."

So you're saying that Zimmerman,armed with a gun,following Trayvon Martin at night time,scaring him and confronting him played absolutely no part,in fact it couldn't even be counted in the chain of events that led to Martin being shot dead? Just as Obamas election had nothing to do with Martin being shot dead

Interesting defence.

Danube of Thought

Perhaps we should note that the "child" was old enough to be a U.S. Marine.

Danube of Thought

"then decide to spill someones brains on the sidewalk several yeards from their house for no reason whatsoever?"

Isn't "wanting to be a gangsta thug" a reason? Just one possibility of course; we'll never know.

Bruce
Had that "child" succeeded in his attempt to smear Zimmerman's brains across the sidewalk,

Can someone please point out what aspect of human nature makes a child go out to buy an ice tea and a bag of skittles and then decide to spill someones brains on the sidewalk several yeards from their house for no reason whatsoever?

Answered seriously, I would suggest this is a result of a culture where adolescent males are not properly civilized because they are being raised for the most part in fatherless homes. Two things civilize males to live productively in society. One is the presence of strong male role models, and the second is marriage, and esp. joint childrearing. Both are missing to a great extent in lower income Black communities.
Could being hunted by an armed man at night time have played a part in the physical conflict?

EVEN a small tiny part?

Just a little teenie weenie part?

A lot of supposed facts not in evidence, if you ask me.

Let me suggest just the opposite, that it was Martin with the attitude, that it was Martin who initiated all of the confrontations and interactions that night, and it was Martin who initiated the final fatal physical confrontation.

While we do not know, for a fact, exactly what happened that night, I will suggest that my suggestion is a lot closer to the known facts than is yours.

DebinNC

The closest thing to a black child in the mix is the 13-yr. old with the dog, quoted at the time saying the guy on the bottom of the struggling duo was the one hollering.

MarkO

What was Tryvon's ethnicity? More than 1/8? Any Indian blood? Yale cries out for justice for the new Homer Plessy.

They're putting him in the back of the criminal system bus.

Danube of Thought

"Interesting defence."

I'll settle for the defense provided by Florida law, under which "following" and "confronting" do not excuse aggravated assault.

Dave, all of these points have been discussed on this site at great lepngth with you. If you can't come up with something new, why bother?

dublindave

(How is "intellectually dishonest" different from "dishonest?")

You're not saying something that is untrue and you're not outrightly intending to mislead people,but you know that what your reporting,in the case of this NBC issue,isn't an accurate representation of George Zimmerman.

IE;typical lawyer crap.

MarkO

Little lower case is catching on that the post hoc maneuver can be problematic. It confuses his lower case brain.

"Ben-Dana went to Yale, and now that child is dead."

daddy

Kudo's to Clarice this morning from Lucianne at Lucianne.com:


"To Be Julia Or Not To Be Julia? That Is the Question
Another little kaboom from the Acme Exploding Cigar
Office at the Obama White House. (Snifter Clink to
Clarice Feldman for original Acme metaphor. She should
be credited after each explosion.) "

Soylent Red

Flush next time, OK?

Yes. Twice. It's a long pipe flowing out to DailyKos.

Clarice

Elizabeth Waren died and now Trayvon is dead.

John Kerry used his Senate position to make very profitable investtments and Trayvon is dead.

Bill Clinton lied under oath and now Trayvon is dead.

John Edwards sweet talked Bunny Mellon out of a bundle and now Trayvon is dead.

Clarice

**Elizabeth Warred LIED*

dublindave

"From the as is thread, but apparently needed here, also:

Didn't Tom suggest we help him by not taking the bait? Posted by: DebinNC

Thanks, DebinNC - and it needs repeating! Posted by: centralcal

Yes, and yes."

I'm a man of my word-if Tom wants to me to never post at this group all he has to do is ask me on any thread and i'll never post here again or invent a sock puppet to do so etc.

I have a feeling Tom loves my valuable insights into Zimmerman/Martin and I wager a virtual $100 bucks he will never ask me to leave.

Suck it loosers,i'm here to stay!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce

Let me add that Martin did have a father in his life, and was staying with him during the time that he was suspended from school, but, apparently lived with his mother the rest of the time. Which means to me that his father was probably more active in his life than is often the case. Also, I don't know his family's economic status.

BUT, by his grill, his tats, and apparent attitude, Martin appears to have adopted the appearance, attitude, and ethos, of the Black "gangsta" culture, which IS a result of a failure to adequately civilize Black adolescent males, and that is almost assuredly a result of those males growing to maturity in a culture where they do not have strong positive male role models, nor are they forced to take responsibility for the children that they ultimately have.

bgates

How is "intellectually dishonest" different from "dishonest?"

When inchworm insinuates he's both intellectual and honest, he's lying twice.

Ignatz

--I'm a man of my word-if Tom wants to me to never post at this group all he has to do is ask me on any thread and i'll never post here again or invent a sock puppet to do so etc.--

Half of me is dying to see Tom put weeweedavey to the test but the other half loves seeing poor Davey boy's pitiful carcass buttered all over the threads from stem to stern by the regulars.

What to do, what to do?

matt

The conversation over the racial identification of Zimmerman and Warren reminds me of sitting in a Louisiana courthouse circa 1826.

Is this how far we have progressed as a nation? And who are the racial identifiers?

Once again it is the Democrats.Having elected a known incompetent as president (for the man had no record or accomplishments that would have established his competence)based substantially on his race, he has thrown down the race card over and over and over again.

His campaign is doing its best to create divisions between men and women, Latino and white, and blacks and everyone else.

The racism of the democratic Party has to go.

Enlightened

"it's clear this man has issues with race and ethniticity"

Most people might have a problem with ETHNITICITY since there is no such thing.

We get it dumbass - it's ok to talk shit on your facebook and even kill at will if you are black/black or hispanic/mexican or hispanic/hispanic -

Just don't let any whiteness get in the way or you will mess with the branding.

Gus

Typical of a LIBTARD, WeeeDoubleDumbDouchebagDave stays where he is not wanted.
LIBTARDS are misfits. WeeDouchebadDave is a LIBTARD.

Soylent Red

Suck it loosers,i'm here to stay!!!!!!!!!!

Loosers. Eleventy.

ROFL

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

Clarice,

In my dreams in an upcoming Pieces you write the story of "Juliet" who grew up in a poor family that taught her the value of work and rose to be a big CEO until she decided to lead the cessation movement. Only you can fill in the blanks.

Extraneus

Trayvon's father went to the movies, and now Trayvon is dead

Devil's Advocate

Ummmmmm
Dear Brainiacs,
What you don't want to admit is that Zimmie DID continue to look for TM after he hung up with the dispatcher. He probably walked up to Twin Lakes circle and back.(TM the Dad referred to Zimmie "doubling back".)The witnesses also heard loud angry VOICES, note the plural. Who knows what either person said at that point. Who knows who started the physical altercation, but Zimmie's story
has a whole lot of holes in it. He's spinning it in his favor and the other guy ain't around to argue. Yeah Zimmie got beat up. Maybe he was "softer" then he was in his Myspace days.

Rob Crawford

So you're saying that Zimmerman,armed with a gun,following Trayvon Martin at night time,scaring him and confronting him played absolutely no part,in fact it couldn't even be counted in the chain of events that led to Martin being shot dead?

If Martin had not attacked Zimmerman, Martin would still be alive.

Martin's decision to throw a punch and beat a man's head against the ground was the inflection point of that evening. Had he instead chosen to go on home, or to interact politely, he would still be alive.

Rob Crawford

Yes. Twice. It's a long pipe flowing out to DailyKos.

That's like coal to Newcastle, innit?

Rob Crawford

What you don't want to admit is that Zimmie DID continue to look for TM after he hung up with the dispatcher.

So? Is that a crime?

but Zimmie's story has a whole lot of holes in it.

No, it does not. It's supported by the physical and eyewitness evidence. The gunshot evidence supports it. His own wounds support it. The "holes" are inventions and fabrications of the lynch mob.

Theo

DA --

The truth is that none of us KNOW what happened that night right before the shooting.

But that is really the point. The media narrative (little black kid shot by racist vigilante for walking while colored) has the enormous holes in it and yet the media embraced it without any real facts to support it. To say that we do not know what happened is to indict the media's Sharpton led rush to judgment.

And, in the end, it will be up to the State to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. They cannot do that by saying "we do not really know what happened." The State needs to have an air tight story backed by credible witnesses, not a lot of suppositions.

Enlightened

Even Stupider: "makes a child go out to buy an ice tea and a bag of skittles"

A CHILD does not go out at on a Sunday night, alone, in the dark, in the rain, to buy candy and a drink at a convenience store over a mile away. In fact - if a cop saw a CHILD (a person who has not reached puberty, or legal age) wandering around under those circumstances - they would stop him also. Since this CHILD most likely had pubic hair, and was old enough to be tried as an adult if he committed a murder or other felony does not fit the litmus test - you stating it over and over hoping that the victim will miraculously change from young man to child if you chant long and hard enough is just proof of your insanity.

Devil's Advocate

Zimmie says he returned to truck after the dispatcher call ended. HE DID NOT. Not a crime but a lie..
He says TM came out from behind a house and cold cocked him. The witnessess heard TWO men arguing before one (ZIMMIE) started screaming like a girl.


Shall I go on?

Your boy crush on Zimmie is hilarious.

PedroGomez

"What you don't want to admit is that Zimmie DID continue to look for TM after he hung up with the dispatcher."

That is the "watch" part of neighborhood watch.

daddy

Good news and bad news on the Elizabeth Warren front:

The good news for Jane's partner Dick from this Boston Herald story, is this bit from Joe Trippi:

“There’s nobody watching this that doesn’t think she’s in big trouble,” one well-known Massachusetts Democrat said."

Since Dick's not watching, no problem--Liz is in the clear.

The bad news however, is that Larry Sabato calls Lizzy a racist:

"Warren then recounted how a relative had told her that her Native American heritage was why her grandfather had “high cheekbones like all of the Indians do” — a response that critics have pounced on as perpetuating Native American stereotypes."

“That’s kind of racism,” Sabato said."

So Lizzy's a racist, but only to people paying attention.

Rob Crawford

Zimmie says he returned to truck after the dispatcher call ended.

He does? Where?

He says TM came out from behind a house and cold cocked him.

He does? Where?

Are you claiming that the statements made by Zimmerman's relatives are equivalent to his statements to police?

Your boy crush on Zimmie is hilarious.

Your vileness is disgusting.

Gus

DevilsAss. Do you work at Pitzer??
You sound like a Pitzer Fruitcake.

Btw. I thought Skittles Mommy said it was SKITTLES screaming like a girl??

Theo

DA --

If you are right that it was GZ that was screaming for help, then the only possible verdict is not guilty. How often do murderers a) call the cops and b) scream for help right before they murder someone?

Clarice

Well, Jane, as a consolation prize, here's bigfurhat's Julia:http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=131649

MarkO

"Elizabeth Warren lied, and now that child is dead."

daddy

Clarice,

When you write the life story of Julia/Juliet, be sure to include the part where she claims she's 1/32nd Native American and gets a free ride to Harvard for that.

Enlightened

OK - I'm done. I just needed a little playtime with the insane clowns, kinda like a catnip fix....

Tom Maguire
And, in the end, it will be up to the State to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

That seemingly bedrock concept eludes a lot of people when Zimmerman comes up.

Yesterday a friend asked me if I thought Zimmerman was innocent. I said that parts of his story sound like it is being told by a guy who knows some self-defense law, which he ought to, as a CC permit holder and criminal justice student.

But so what? The state needs to prove him guilty, and if we believe in the principal of freeing ten guilty men in preference to jailing one innocent, this is not even a hard case.

Based on what we think the evidence will be, I think he will clear the bar at his immunity hearing (if not earlier on a motion to dismiss) but I would be shocked if he were convicted at trial.

And if Casey Anthony can get off in Florida, the most hated man in America can walk.

But as to whether he is "innocent", in terms of his state of mind, who started the fight, how frightened he really was, whether he really believed Martin saw his gun - how the heck would I know? He can take it up with St. Peter one day.

Enlightened

Love it - Clarice's Snifter Clink - CSC....

Come on 5:00 pm

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

Did you know this:

The Obama administration warned the Supreme Court this week via papers filed with the Court that if Obamacare is struck down, there will be an “extraordinary disruption” in Medicare. Medicare was not discussed during the Supreme Court arguments, since it was not a Constitutional issue. This is a practical argument, not a legal one; it’s the Obama administration applying pressure to the Supremes.

What a scumbag

myiq2xu
He's spinning it in his favor and the other guy ain't around to argue.

That's one of the advantages to winning a gunfight.

Clarice

About that snifter clink,after all these years of being in each other's heads, I can't honestly say I can distinguish what is mine and what was stolen from Rick Ballard. After Ambassador Munchausen it's all one big blur.

daddy

Happy Star Wars Day.

Can I suggest that in honor of Star Wars we write posts on GZ and Trayvon as if spoken by Yoda.

"Lied, did Elizabeth Warren...and Treyvon died he did. Be racist. There is no try."

Clarice

Another great campaign ad:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Czo5Vf8KZs

Extraneus

Trayvon swung on a bus driver, and now that child is dead.

Clarice

Jane, I can't imagine why the Court accepted that filing.

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

I cannot believe the arrogance in that move.

MarkO

"The Obama administration warned the Supreme Court this week via papers filed with the Court that if Obamacare is struck down, there will be an “extraordinary disruption” in Medicare."

Wow. Obama knows he's losing, doesn't he? This will not make the Justice's happy. Not even his friends. It's just not done.

MarkO

A child change his name to “@No_LIMIT_NIGGA," and now that child is dead.

MarkO

"changed"

Rick Ballard

"That's one of the advantages to winning a gunfight."

War as well. The Punic viewpoint is ill presented subsequent to Zama.

MarkO

"Justices" My fingers seem to have a will of their own. I have no excuse.

Enlightened

Damn this CHILD. Out at night, in the dark, armed. Just hanging out at the park being disrespected. Ho hum.

Jane (Better a crate than a plate)

Uh oh! This thread just got Instalaunched.

Has anyone ever heard of a post hearing filing that had nothing to do with the law or even the case?

Gus

Sounds like Obama has AL GORE writing his lies now.

Bruce
And, in the end, it will be up to the State to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. They cannot do that by saying "we do not really know what happened." The State needs to have an air tight story backed by credible witnesses, not a lot of suppositions.
I am pretty sure that the state does not have that. But, the burdens of proof are quite different in the immunity hearing, and regardless of what happens there, the case is punted until after the election, or for good.
scott

dd sucked on the tit of white guilt and now a child is dead.

MarkO

"Obama ate a dog, and now this child is dead."

daddy

The Yoda-Speak Generator

Clarice's 01:55 converted to Yodac:

"Of being in each other's heads about that snifter clink,after all these years, honestly say I can distinguish what is mine and what was stolen from rick ballard I cannot. After ambassador munchausen, all one big blur, is it."


Rick Ballard's 02:09:

"One of the advantages to winning a gunfight, that is."
As well war. Ill presented subsequent to zama, the punic viewpoint is. Hmmmmmm."


And Jane's 02:10:

"Uh oh! This thread just got instalaunched.
With the law or even the case, has anyone ever heard of a post hearing filing that had nothing to do, hmm? Yes, hmmm."

Devil's Advocate

Tom Maguire,
Thanks,
Pithy, eloquent and as is typical
you are spot on. Now I must go back to work,
which will be difficult as my brain is now filled with visions of Homer Plessy, Libtards, skittles and Charles Grow.

Danube of Thought

Orlando Sentinel:

"George Zimmerman told investigators that while he was on the phone with a Sanford police dispatcher reporting Trayvon Martin as suspicious, the teenager was circling his vehicle on foot, a source familiar with the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel.

"The source said Zimmerman's account of events hasn't changed in his several statements to police — in which he said he was so unnerved by the teen's behavior that he rolled up his window to avoid a confrontation. However, he never mentioned any of that while talking to the dispatcher.


"The details revealed by the source provide new insight into what Zimmerman said happened in the earliest moments of his contact with Trayvon. And they may reveal the inconsistencies alluded to by prosecutors in the case.

"One of those inconsistencies: Zimmerman told police Trayvon had his hand over Zimmerman's mouth during their fight on the night he shot Trayvon.

"The Sentinel's source confirmed that Zimmerman's statements include that allegation. But authorities do not believe that happened, the source told the Sentinel, because on one 911 call, someone can be heard screaming for help. If it were Zimmerman, as he claims, his cries were not muffled, the source said.

"Zimmerman also told police, the source told the Sentinel, that while the two were on the ground, Trayvon reached for Zimmerman's gun, and the two struggled over it.

"Those portions of Zimmerman's account are not corroborated by other evidence, the source said."

matt

strong the Force is with daddy today.

Waiting will I be for the case of Zimmerman to be tried before guessing facts that in evidence are not.

To the Dark Side has gone Obama. threatened he has our democratic institutions, and clown army has he led by Sith Lord Soros. Feel I a great disturbance in the Force.

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