Can we reprise some Memorial Day mischief from 2008? Yes We Can!
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There is this jewel from PUK on the old linked thread -
"The most odious characteristic of this vacuous man,is the way he appropriates the experience of others to create his own narrative."
Valerie Jarrett. Who is still getting a pass in the vetting process. Of course, maybe Soros' money has taken precedence at this juncture and Valerie is merely baby-sitting.
I think iggy and I sparred last year on who Memorial Day honors. I stand by my belief that given the lack of widespread service in so many groups today it is better to let people remember all those who served today especially those who were posted to a war zone.
janet's pen pal's mom told me she had to hear from yet another mom he was standing right next to someone who was blown up. I want to remember those who made it back intact today as well.
The interesting thing here over the weekend was 2 who had been away at Christmas and are back had passes to come home. They are all over at a neighbor's relaxing by the pool when one realizes that there is a large Copperhead in the pool. America's finest beheaded the viper with a shovel.
And janet-he surrounds himself with such mediocre people.
What a great old post by TM. It is chock full of examples of Obama's stupidity. Elliott reminds us of this from our Cinco de Quatro President-
"Obama discusses education and language acquisition:
"When it comes to second-language learners, the most important thing is not to get bogged down in ideology, but figure out what works," Obama says. "Everybody should be bilingual, or everybody should be trilingual.""
Actually on topic, LUN is Whittle's latest on the Euro, but done with reference to the Air France Airbus, Gettysburg , and a few other seemingly disparate elements. Never knew about the Minnesota Regiment sacrificial charge.
As a side note, never knew that the side stick controls in the Airbus were averaged with no feedback to the pilots. GO Boeing!
Here is another old comment by PUK from Sept. 2009 - "I think Obama is trapped by his own smartarsedness. Because his mantel of omnipotence forces him to opine on every subject that arises,he goes into the blagging mode that he has used all his life. "I've always said..."The man bears the imprint of the last person who spoke to him."
Did PUK have Obama pegged or what!?!
One more from PUK about Obama - "his first instinct is to lie, his second instinct is to elaborate on it."
a brother flies for one of the majors and the pilots call them Scarebuses.
They were specifically designed for the lowest common denominator level of flying ability. Airbus' design focus was 3rd World countries with limited flight training.
Whittle is absolutely correct with some brilliant analogies. Thanks for sharing.
In re: Memorial Day, to each his own when it comes to honoring those who served. If you want to honor the living who served as well as those who gave their lives then that is an independent decision and action for you. But it doesn't change the fact that Memorial Day (ex-Decoration Day) observes the service and sacrifice of those who have died in service to their country, including those in the Confderate armies.
The VFW continues to lobby for a return to observing on May 30th not celebrating it as a 3 day weekend to start the summer and give merchants another venue for "sales". I still shake my head at clubs and neighborhoods that have Memorial Day parties. What's that all about?
--I think iggy and I sparred last year on who Memorial Day honors. I stand by my belief that given the lack of widespread service in so many groups today it is better to let people remember all those who served today especially those who were posted to a war zone.--
No sparring rse. Regardless of what the day is for my feelings are personal. I don't want to do anything personally that could be interpreted as my service being in the same league as those who fought and died. Willingness to do something in the abstract is a far cry from actually doing it.
If we ever do spar, remember, I'm a lefty so you gotta watch for the right hook. :)
Well the good news, if you're watching Baseball today, is that not every ad is an Alec Baldwin ad anymore. Phew!
The bad news tho' is that the new ads' are all for a new sitcom starring Charlie Sheen:(
Head Studio Exec: "Okay, we got Alec Baldwin, and now we've got Charlie Sheen. That's infotainment, and it'll drive the right crazy. But how are we gona' fill that hole left by the cancellation of "Good Christian Bitches?"
Studio Exec 2: "Well what say we come up with a Sitcom starring Lindsey Lohan as a drug pusher on the lam, who does that Whoopy Goldberg thingy and hides out as a Catholic Nun who gradually turns those old fuddy-dudies into socially conscious liberals, committed to free Birth Control and organic gardening?"
Studio Exec 3: "Bingo. And let's place it on the Arizona-Mexican border, and every week have a Sherif Joe Arpaio bad guy lookalike come down and try to close the border convent for providing sanctuary to illegals."
Head Studio Exec: Great idea boys. If LiLo's out of rehab yet, get her on line 1."
I took that civics quiz linked in the 2008 JOM post. (I may have taken it before - it seemed familiar.) I got one wrong, but all the answers to that one seemed wrong to me.
Here's the question, and the "right" answer:
Q: If taxes equal government spending, then:
A: tax per person equals government spending per person on average
I suppose they meant tax per CAPITA equals government spending per CAPITA and not how it reads to me, i.e. "tax per person" is average per tax payer, a much smaller population than "person on average".
I'm quibbling. I just hate not getting 100%... grr.
Volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year.
Unpaid intern in Governor's office 8 years.
Mormon missionary in Paris 2 years.
Unpaid bishop and stake president for his church 10 years.
No salary as president of the Olympics 3 years.
No salary as MA governor 4 years.
That's a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church.
Posted by: Rocco | May 28, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Although everyone knew about McCain's Vietnam service and POW status, people still learned a lot about him during the convention. Most speakers talked up his story, but the attack on Obama was handled by Fred, Rudy and, most effectively, Sarah.
This time around, when people learn about Romney, it'll be even more eye-opening. He'll still have the likes of Fred and Rudy if he wants, but I hope he nominates a VP that can skewer this embarrassment of an incumbent as well Sarah did.
he surrounds himself with such mediocre people.
Posted by: rse That's one thing I don't understand. Is it just because he came out of nowhere with few political friends, do the shining lights of the Left not like or trust him, or are the lights out? those who have died in service to their country, including those in the Confderate armies I guess the former Conf. states have all dropped their Conf. Mem. Days now, though someone put out little Stars & Bars on the veteran's graves in our city cemetery last April 26 (this year they used NC flags with the red & blue reversed. someone must have complained). April 26 was the day Johnston surrendered to Sherman 20 miles east of me. Other states used different days.
So Glenn Garvin, points out in the review, of the History Channel's 'Hatfield and McCoys' how they created some composite characters, telescoped certain events, etc, curiously what
they found unacceptible about the 'Kennedy's
I am signed in with Wordpress, my own avatar, and I still have to deal with captha. Go figure?
Did you all see where Erik Erickson at Red State got swatted? This Kimberlin mob needs to be taken down either by the legitimate legal authorities or there will be vigilante groups forming and that will be a disaster. Like in sports, the retaliation is always caught and flagged not the intiation.
My guess is that every American who treated returning Vietnam soldiers badly and is still alive voted for Obama. I cannot imagine such a person would have voted for McCain/Palin.
There are no worse offenders than John Kerry and his friends and William Ayers and his friends. I believe that every thing Obama and the Obama regime say on this subject is utter BS.
Comparing today's display photo at bing.com versus google.com, I see that one company is not ashamed to have an American heritage.
The other company has a yellow ribbon and a dinky flag decal.
Could there be mutiny occurring within the Massachusetts Democratic Party? The sentiment of discontent is not happening on John “Anchors Aweigh” Kerry’s yacht, Isabella. It is within the rank and file.
Next weekend, commonwealth Democrats are holding their annual state convention. It will be a gathering of moonbats wearing Birkenstocks and socks, union payroll patriots and limousine liberals. Although Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren is their anointed candidate to take on U.S. Sen. Scott Brown, state Democratic Party Chairman John Walsh is predicting that Marisa DeFranco, a Boston immigration lawyer with a mere 1200 Facebook friends, is going to get 15 percent of the delegates, allowing her to be on the September ballot. That means Sitting Duck Warren will have to face a primary.
I believe Janet's dear friend, Jim Moran, was mayor of Alexandria, VA, when a drunk drove into and damaged the Confederate soldier that's smack in the middle of Washington Street, downtown's main N-S drag. DYankee Moran and the City Council-D were all for moving it to an obscure park, but someone had wisely gotten the VA legislature to pass a law when it was put up in the 1880's, that it had to be maintained in that location.
My mom's small hometown of Oxford NC had theirs right in the middle of the main "T" intersection in town, which wasn't that big a problem, because no one was in a hurry. It was moved next to the Library in the 70's, largely because blacks could vote.
((I can't find the reasoning behind the Flag Code procedure for Memorial Day, but I have my own belief of what it represents.
Your raise the flag at sunrise and then promptly lower it to half-staff. This is to properly recognise the lives lost in defense of this great nation.
At noon you raise the flag all the way. This is to show respect for the great nation that honors it's dead in such a way.
))
I think another aspect of raising the flag after it's been at half mast is to assert victory for the fallen. They did not die if vain. The raising of the flag acknowledges their great achievement and their gift to the living.
((This time around, when people learn about Romney, it'll be even more eye-opening. ))
due to that email and his not taking a salary while gov of MA, which I didn't previously know, I went to Wiki and read his biography which seems to be quite thorough. I learned a ton of stuff about him.
"On Sunday, in discussing the uses of the word 'hero' to describe those members of the armed forces who have given their lives, I don't think I lived up to the standards of rigor, respect and empathy for those affected by the issues we discuss that I've set for myself," Hayes says in a written statement.
Hey Chris - how about the standards of decency and respect society has set for us and has been in place for more than two centuries?
Leave aside for a minute that this "apology" came as a result of the massive outcry by good and decent people. Focus instead on the fact that the threshold for civility and respect and decency with these d-bags is the standards they set for themselves.
I don't care if anyone calls me a "hero" or not. I did my job, looked after those who were under me, and came back alive. No bigs AFAIC. Many, many people did not share that experience in their tours. But there is no level of contempt deep enough for a person who has done nothing but absorb the benefits of the system he rails against, and yet refuses to see the very real sacrifice that many others have made on his behalf, including the ultimate sacrifice. He doesn't have to say the word, but he damn well ought to think the thought.
'the first rule of fight club, ahem, Special Forces, is you don't talk about penetrations into denied areas, you would think Vietnam would have taught them this lesson.
For this Memorial Day (actually it isn't until the 30th), from the son of an old associate, who is currently leading a SpecOps in Afghanistan. We did a mail mob on him:
All,
Just wanted to write you a quick note to thank you for your messages. We had a ceremony this morning in our compound where we remembered all those who have given their lives to support Special Operations Forces' efforts here in this part of Afghanistan - well done and a good tribute. I didn't know more than a couple of the individuals personally, but I know many of their names well because our outstation locations are named after several of them.
Our folks here are in good spirits and are ready to do what we can, as the "fighting season" really kicks off here, to continue the efforts of those before us. I think a large part of that spirit comes from the support that we get from home and the fact that folks are thinking about us and praying for us, and we appreciate every bit of that. The rest of it, though, comes from a dedication to this admittedly difficult mission to both empower the Afghan people to protect themselves, while also defeating our enemies' attempts to keep us from doing that. Some places we have seen success, others frustration, but Lord willing the overall effort will give this country a chance to stand on its feet.
I'll be passing your thoughts on to my personnel here...again, thanks for the messages, and please know that our folks are doing good work here.
narciso, the problem with the "neutral" wikipedia editors is that they are biased without knowing they are biased. That is a common trait of lefties; they think that they are moderate, aka "neutral" and have fits if anyone calls them a lefty. Righties are far better at honest self analysis than most lefties. We know what our biases are and are honest enough to admit them.
Henry,
If you were working with Amdahl in WI, we probably know a lot of the same people,Tom Forer, Ed Green, John Hanson, Jim Cunningham. Loved Amdahl. When we were in the process of dumping IBM an IBM big shot called our CEO and told him that his IT people were making a huge mistake. In a shocking display of support our CEO told him that he had total confidence in us and not to have anyone else call.
narciso, another aspect of the problem is the contemporary business model that wikipedia, google and others practice, that of zero accountablity to the people who use their free services. zero accountability is the price we pay for all the so-called free stuff on the intertubes.
Romney is surprising me very pleasantly. I hope he will continue to remain calm and generally pleasant-- the contrast with this man who has worn the country out with divisive rhetoric is becoming quite clear.
My number one hope for him is that he articulate a clear-headed, rigorous defense of capitalism.
The left complained about how it was so hard 'to speak truth to power, how a chill wind was suppressing dissent, how intelligence information was being 'stovepiped' a culture of corruption, well it turns out it was all bogus,
The Times, both ofthem, McClatchy, et al,are rather expensive cage liners, a menagerie ofthe most craven, incurious sots to grace a by line, in the case of Shane, Rosenberg, Priest,they have become quite literally the devils advocate.
I spent part of today reading some reports on how educating for citizenship was educating to put the common good first. And the desired state would be social democracy. To finally create a just world. There was a complaint in this major teaching network about encouraging a patriotic mindset and values.
There is so much work to be done to reacquaint our young people with our historic legacy and what makes us special. Fallen vs having served is a distinction we cannot, unfortunately, afford. We need to teach history and genuine civic traditions not the revised society put out there by the Civic Mission of the Schools reports. Thanks Sandra and ABA.
I know the difference but let's first and foremost in this day and age of so much ignorance and coordinated machinations to undermine everything that has made America great through our schools, if we have a young person who wants to use today to honor all who served, accept their thanks. That's such a healthy start under the circumstances of their miseducation.
I am also anticipating the next several rather painful posts. All of which involve the UN. When I get done you can tell me if it feels like moral treason to you. At a minimum.
Here's to finally doing an autopsy for what is going on in ed so we can get back to teaching kids to read properly. There are few better tales out there than real history.
This Hayes buttwipe, is an editor for the Nation magazine in addition to a contributor/host on MSDNC. Its actually this fellow traveler even attempted an apology. Perhaps someplace deep down there is a shred of decency left? We can hope.
A rhetorical question for all you coders. (I asked this some weeks ago, but as usual, it was a thread terminator.)
How come in this day and age, there isn't one and only one ASCII table for general purpose communications? It is infuriating that in the most genetic circumstances, text, even in HTML formatted ads, etc., you end up with shotgun splatters where lowly quote marks and apostrophes once resided.
How come in this day and age, there isn't one and only one ASCII table for general purpose communications? It is infuriating that in the most genetic circumstances, text, even in HTML formatted ads, etc., you end up with shotgun splatters where lowly quote marks and apostrophes once resided.
Blame Microsoft for some of it. There really is a single, unified character set that's SUPPOSED to be universal and comprehensive, but MSFT insists on "smart quotes" and other characters that only exist on their systems.
MT, the short answer is global interconnection. Different code sets (called code pages) are used to accomodate character sets of particular languages (tildes, umlauts, plus fun double byte stuff like Chinese or Arabic). The ASCII codes for these things overlap, with "interesting" results. It is very tricky to pull off true multilingual given control of the server codepage, but not the client codepage.
Van T. Barfoot died at the age of 92 on 2 March 2012.
You might remember a news story several months ago about a crotchety old man who defied his homeowners association and refused to take down the flagpole on his property and the large flag that flew on it. Now you can find out who, exactly, that old man was.
On June 15, 1919, Van T. Barfoot was born in Edinburg -- probably didn't make much news back then. Twenty-five years later, on May 23, 1944, near Carano , Italy , Van T. Barfoot, who had enlisted in the US Army in
1940, set out to flank German machine gun positions from which fire was coming down on his fellow soldiers. He advanced through a minefield,took out three enemy machine gun positions and returned with 17 prisoners of war.
If that wasn't enough for a day's work, he later took on and destroyed three German tanks sent to retake the machine gun positions
That probably didn't make much news either, given the scope of the war, but it did earn Van T. Barfoot, who retired as a colonel after also serving in Korea and Vietnam , a Congressional Medal of Honor.
What did make news was a neighborhood association's quibble withhow the 90-year-old veteran chose to fly the American flag outside his suburban Virginia home. Seems the rules said a flag could be flown on a house-mounted bracket, but, for decorum, items such as Barfoot's 21-foot flagpole were unsuitable.
He had been denied a permit for the pole, erected it anyway and was facing court action if he didn't take it down. Since the story made national TV, the neighborhood association has rethought its position and agreed to indulge this old hero who dwells among them.
"In the time I have left I plan to continue to fly the American flag without interference," Barfoot told The Associated Press. As well he should. And if any of his neighbors still takes a notion to contest him, they might want to read his Medal of Honor citation. It indicates he's not real good at backing down.
I'm really perplexed about the seeming impossibility of tracing and apprehending these guys who are doing this SWATting thing. I assume there are serious state, and perhaps federal, crimes involved.
Let's make this the year that MSNBC and all its leading commentators go out of business for good.
I certainly share those sentiments, Clarice. However, I think the first to really bite the dust will be CNN. MSNBC will continue to attract the Dudu's and Bubu's and their ilk - the crazies of our world, who they seem to cater to openly.
The were a number of Medals awarded for the Anzio campaign, Rocco, and I am firmly of the belief that anyone who served there had/has the absolute right to tell the busybodies to take a running jump at a rolling donut.
It was Hell in a very small place and the casualties were massive.There probably should have been more citations awarded, but some units made it a point not to. The unit badge was enough.
LUN to a story about a guy I knew who passed away 2 years ago. I think it brings the reality of Anzio into some sort of comprehension.
He was recommended for a DSC but the paperwork was lost and the officers recommending it died in combat shortly after the events that day.
I went to bat with the Army, who refused to re-open the case. From what I pieced together, he probably deserved the Medal.
The Anzio vets are something special. Italy was the second or third stage by May, 1944. Everything went towards Overlord and then Dragoon and Market Garden.
By 1945, it was still a slog and only ended when the Germans surrendered in May.
I just spoke with a fellow I see about the neighborhood from time to time. It turns out he was an army aviator and parachutist and got shot down three times in Vietnam. He shrugs at my expression of gratitude and is quite modest. Career army, he retired and now tutors kids in SAT.
I think there is a degree of not willing to look into that briar patch, in Kimberlin's
native MD, the attorney general, has all but
said, how high, as to the star chamber against O'Keefe, in California, first Brown
and now Harris are so indebted to the Sorosphere's tentacles, one practically can't tell them apart.
I'm really perplexed about the seeming impossibility of tracing and apprehending these guys who are doing this SWATting thing. I assume there are serious state, and perhaps federal, crimes involved.
It's an Orwellian nightmare come to fruition. The press won't report it. The police won't enforce the laws even after being used by the offenders. Our elected officials ignore it. I haven't seen anything like it and it's pretty damn infuriating.
For over 20 years, I represented hundreds of condominium and homeowner associations in GA, VA, DC, DE, PA, NH, VT, CO, MD, TX and CA. I only had to fire a few such clients. It would have given me great pleasure to have fired the Sussex Square HOA in Henrico County, VA for its treatment of Col Barfoot.
I'm willing to bet there exists, funding outside of the charity, logistics at other, better funded 501(c)-3s, and coordinated research for their actions.
Oh, and coordinated, institutionalized, political cover.
They do "that" here. A lot. It's a "Machine" thing. Right up and until they need to be burned. We're not at that stage yet. They have local "support" somewhere.
There is this jewel from PUK on the old linked thread -
"The most odious characteristic of this vacuous man,is the way he appropriates the experience of others to create his own narrative."
How true.
Posted by: Janet | May 28, 2012 at 02:11 PM
I'll keep repeating it: He is not smart but he is programmable to a fault. Now who is the programmer and who missed the "do" loop in the algorithm?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 02:19 PM
That thread reminds me: Whatever happened to MikeS?
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 02:23 PM
Now who is the programmer . . .
Valerie Jarrett. Who is still getting a pass in the vetting process. Of course, maybe Soros' money has taken precedence at this juncture and Valerie is merely baby-sitting.
Posted by: Joan of Argghh! | May 28, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I think iggy and I sparred last year on who Memorial Day honors. I stand by my belief that given the lack of widespread service in so many groups today it is better to let people remember all those who served today especially those who were posted to a war zone.
janet's pen pal's mom told me she had to hear from yet another mom he was standing right next to someone who was blown up. I want to remember those who made it back intact today as well.
The interesting thing here over the weekend was 2 who had been away at Christmas and are back had passes to come home. They are all over at a neighbor's relaxing by the pool when one realizes that there is a large Copperhead in the pool. America's finest beheaded the viper with a shovel.
And janet-he surrounds himself with such mediocre people.
Posted by: rse | May 28, 2012 at 02:24 PM
They've fallen, but they've gotten back up
Heh.
Posted by: Ignatz | May 28, 2012 at 02:24 PM
Missing Do Loop? More like an Abend that keeps throwing error messages instead of ending. Oh well, reboot in Nov.
Posted by: henry | May 28, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Tammy Bruce playing Reagan's speech from Normandy; such a wonderful four minutes of how a President should sound like.
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 02:28 PM
What a great old post by TM. It is chock full of examples of Obama's stupidity. Elliott reminds us of this from our Cinco de Quatro President-
"Obama discusses education and language acquisition:
"When it comes to second-language learners, the most important thing is not to get bogged down in ideology, but figure out what works," Obama says. "Everybody should be bilingual, or everybody should be trilingual.""
Posted by: Janet | May 28, 2012 at 02:29 PM
I raise a glass to our fallen heroes. Though fallen, they all stand tall.
See LUN for the preparation for the ceremonies at Arlington National Cemetery.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | May 28, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Actually on topic, LUN is Whittle's latest on the Euro, but done with reference to the Air France Airbus, Gettysburg , and a few other seemingly disparate elements. Never knew about the Minnesota Regiment sacrificial charge.
As a side note, never knew that the side stick controls in the Airbus were averaged with no feedback to the pilots. GO Boeing!
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | May 28, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Jack, yeah, it's just a while loop:
while (areHoodwinked(americanPopulation) {
spend(3500000000000);
blame(priorPresident && economicConditions(currentTime));
teleprompterHoodwink();
}
Posted by: Jim Ryan | May 28, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Abend, henry? ABEND? Wow - another Mainframer. So, which is it? S0C4? Or S0C7?
Posted by: AliceH | May 28, 2012 at 02:48 PM
That's pretty good SQL code, Jim
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Stop it Alice; you almost made my pager go off.
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Sorry, CH. Just ZAP Reg14 and you'll be fine.
Posted by: AliceH | May 28, 2012 at 02:53 PM
How about those red apples? Loyola looks on the way to rolling the Terps. Speed kills and Loyola is proving it.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 02:55 PM
OMG AttackWatch is back!!! We're doomed!!
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 02:56 PM
It's Java, Cap'n, but thanks.
Nuts, I missed a close parens.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | May 28, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Congrats to Loyola; there's a reason they were the top seed.
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 02:59 PM
Alice, a bunch of Amdol V8s before getting moved to mainframe / mini / PC interoperability and multiplatform programming tool / CASE development.
Posted by: henry | May 28, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Here is another old comment by PUK from Sept. 2009 - "I think Obama is trapped by his own smartarsedness. Because his mantel of omnipotence forces him to opine on every subject that arises,he goes into the blagging mode that he has used all his life. "I've always said..."The man bears the imprint of the last person who spoke to him."
Did PUK have Obama pegged or what!?!
One more from PUK about Obama - "his first instinct is to lie, his second instinct is to elaborate on it."
Posted by: Janet | May 28, 2012 at 03:02 PM
Look how optimistic Jane was back then!!
Ya know, it's really too bad the media refuses to report this stuff.
Maybe after Hillary drops out....
Hahahaha...Oh Jane!! We were all so naive back then!
Posted by: Janet | May 28, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Ugh. Amdahl.
Posted by: henry | May 28, 2012 at 03:06 PM
How time flies Janet.
I would be so rich if TM paid us hourly!
Posted by: Jane | May 28, 2012 at 03:21 PM
mantran;
a brother flies for one of the majors and the pilots call them Scarebuses.
They were specifically designed for the lowest common denominator level of flying ability. Airbus' design focus was 3rd World countries with limited flight training.
Whittle is absolutely correct with some brilliant analogies. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: matt | May 28, 2012 at 03:27 PM
I used to love Amdahl. They were a great customer.
Posted by: matt | May 28, 2012 at 03:29 PM
rse,
In re: Memorial Day, to each his own when it comes to honoring those who served. If you want to honor the living who served as well as those who gave their lives then that is an independent decision and action for you. But it doesn't change the fact that Memorial Day (ex-Decoration Day) observes the service and sacrifice of those who have died in service to their country, including those in the Confderate armies.
The VFW continues to lobby for a return to observing on May 30th not celebrating it as a 3 day weekend to start the summer and give merchants another venue for "sales". I still shake my head at clubs and neighborhoods that have Memorial Day parties. What's that all about?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 03:31 PM
I can't find the reasoning behind the Flag Code procedure for Memorial Day, but I have my own belief of what it represents.
Your raise the flag at sunrise and then promptly lower it to half-staff. This is to properly recognise the lives lost in defense of this great nation.
At noon you raise the flag all the way. This is to show respect for the great nation that honors it's dead in such a way.
As I raised the flag, at noon, I said to myself "...and never mistake our kindness for weakness!"
God Bless the fallen, God Bless the living, and God Bless the USA
Posted by: Threadkiller | May 28, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Of course I also think a dual citizen, at birth, can't be a natural born citizen.
Call me an oddity.
Posted by: Threadkiller | May 28, 2012 at 04:08 PM
You're an oddity TK.....that's why we love ya.
Posted by: Ignatz | May 28, 2012 at 04:11 PM
--I think iggy and I sparred last year on who Memorial Day honors. I stand by my belief that given the lack of widespread service in so many groups today it is better to let people remember all those who served today especially those who were posted to a war zone.--
No sparring rse. Regardless of what the day is for my feelings are personal. I don't want to do anything personally that could be interpreted as my service being in the same league as those who fought and died. Willingness to do something in the abstract is a far cry from actually doing it.
If we ever do spar, remember, I'm a lefty so you gotta watch for the right hook. :)
Posted by: Ignatz | May 28, 2012 at 04:19 PM
You're our oddity, TK.
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 04:32 PM
TK, I think of you more as a curiosity. Maybe even an attractive nuisance.
Great post, by the way.
Posted by: MarkO | May 28, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Whenever I see ou dog knawing away at a bone I think of TK.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Iggy, did you see the Patton quote at Insty?
“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived.”
Posted by: Jane | May 28, 2012 at 05:21 PM
A very valuable oddity.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | May 28, 2012 at 05:22 PM
--Iggy, did you see the Patton quote at Insty?
“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived.”--
Thanks Jane. Great bookend quote to Beasts of England's dad's quote on the other thread.
Posted by: Ignatz | May 28, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Well the good news, if you're watching Baseball today, is that not every ad is an Alec Baldwin ad anymore. Phew!
The bad news tho' is that the new ads' are all for a new sitcom starring Charlie Sheen:(
Head Studio Exec: "Okay, we got Alec Baldwin, and now we've got Charlie Sheen. That's infotainment, and it'll drive the right crazy. But how are we gona' fill that hole left by the cancellation of "Good Christian Bitches?"
Studio Exec 2: "Well what say we come up with a Sitcom starring Lindsey Lohan as a drug pusher on the lam, who does that Whoopy Goldberg thingy and hides out as a Catholic Nun who gradually turns those old fuddy-dudies into socially conscious liberals, committed to free Birth Control and organic gardening?"
Studio Exec 3: "Bingo. And let's place it on the Arizona-Mexican border, and every week have a Sherif Joe Arpaio bad guy lookalike come down and try to close the border convent for providing sanctuary to illegals."
Head Studio Exec: Great idea boys. If LiLo's out of rehab yet, get her on line 1."
Posted by: daddy | May 28, 2012 at 05:31 PM
I took that civics quiz linked in the 2008 JOM post. (I may have taken it before - it seemed familiar.) I got one wrong, but all the answers to that one seemed wrong to me.
Here's the question, and the "right" answer:
I suppose they meant tax per CAPITA equals government spending per CAPITA and not how it reads to me, i.e. "tax per person" is average per tax payer, a much smaller population than "person on average".
I'm quibbling. I just hate not getting 100%... grr.
Posted by: AliceH | May 28, 2012 at 05:44 PM
From the previous thread:
Although everyone knew about McCain's Vietnam service and POW status, people still learned a lot about him during the convention. Most speakers talked up his story, but the attack on Obama was handled by Fred, Rudy and, most effectively, Sarah.This time around, when people learn about Romney, it'll be even more eye-opening. He'll still have the likes of Fred and Rudy if he wants, but I hope he nominates a VP that can skewer this embarrassment of an incumbent as well Sarah did.
Posted by: Extraneus | May 28, 2012 at 06:13 PM
25 of Obama's sons shot overnight in Chicago.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Aw.
First lady Michelle Obama sponsoring future Navy submarine
Posted by: Extraneus | May 28, 2012 at 06:37 PM
he surrounds himself with such mediocre people.
Posted by: rse
That's one thing I don't understand. Is it just because he came out of nowhere with few political friends, do the shining lights of the Left not like or trust him, or are the lights out?
those who have died in service to their country, including those in the Confderate armies
I guess the former Conf. states have all dropped their Conf. Mem. Days now, though someone put out little Stars & Bars on the veteran's graves in our city cemetery last April 26 (this year they used NC flags with the red & blue reversed. someone must have complained). April 26 was the day Johnston surrendered to Sherman 20 miles east of me. Other states used different days.
Posted by: Ralph L | May 28, 2012 at 06:37 PM
(Can't believe I got the captcha right on that. It was a complete guess.)
Posted by: Extraneus | May 28, 2012 at 06:38 PM
So Glenn Garvin, points out in the review, of the History Channel's 'Hatfield and McCoys' how they created some composite characters, telescoped certain events, etc, curiously what
they found unacceptible about the 'Kennedy's
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Is it asking the JEF too much to honor the troops without making a campaign speech?
Ext I haven't had to do a captcha for at least 2 weeks; not sure why...
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Btw, have any of you, had experience with first degree burns, from boiling water?
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 06:46 PM
Ex,
I am signed in with Wordpress, my own avatar, and I still have to deal with captha. Go figure?
Did you all see where Erik Erickson at Red State got swatted? This Kimberlin mob needs to be taken down either by the legitimate legal authorities or there will be vigilante groups forming and that will be a disaster. Like in sports, the retaliation is always caught and flagged not the intiation.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 06:49 PM
narciso, there are a number of Google links on first aid for "scalds" and boiling water burns. Hope you're ok!
link
Posted by: Extraneus | May 28, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Narciso,
15-20 minutes in cool water minimizes the damage. I'm assuming there is no blistering which would indicate second degree.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | May 28, 2012 at 06:54 PM
Better put some ice on that, to coin a phrase.
Posted by: Ralph L | May 28, 2012 at 06:58 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9296485/Barack-Obama-condemns-Americas-treatment-of-Vietnam-veterans-as-national-shame.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
My guess is that every American who treated returning Vietnam soldiers badly and is still alive voted for Obama. I cannot imagine such a person would have voted for McCain/Palin.
There are no worse offenders than John Kerry and his friends and William Ayers and his friends. I believe that every thing Obama and the Obama regime say on this subject is utter BS.
Posted by: pagar | May 28, 2012 at 06:58 PM
The Orlando Sentinel prepares the world for the collapse of the State's case against GZ.
I might have to change my opinion on this going to to trail but I won't. They are known cowards in this part of Florida.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 07:01 PM
Comparing today's display photo at bing.com versus google.com, I see that one company is not ashamed to have an American heritage.
The other company has a yellow ribbon and a dinky flag decal.
Posted by: Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA | May 28, 2012 at 07:02 PM
My son sent me this link. Easy Company trip
Some pictures of Babe Heffron & Bill Guarnere. Kinda neat.
We've been watching 'Band of Brothers' again.
Posted by: Janet | May 28, 2012 at 07:07 PM
This is encouraging:
Dem mutiny could sink Elizabeth Warren’s run
Could there be mutiny occurring within the Massachusetts Democratic Party? The sentiment of discontent is not happening on John “Anchors Aweigh” Kerry’s yacht, Isabella. It is within the rank and file.
Next weekend, commonwealth Democrats are holding their annual state convention. It will be a gathering of moonbats wearing Birkenstocks and socks, union payroll patriots and limousine liberals. Although Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren is their anointed candidate to take on U.S. Sen. Scott Brown, state Democratic Party Chairman John Walsh is predicting that Marisa DeFranco, a Boston immigration lawyer with a mere 1200 Facebook friends, is going to get 15 percent of the delegates, allowing her to be on the September ballot. That means Sitting Duck Warren will have to face a primary.
More
Posted by: Jane | May 28, 2012 at 07:10 PM
I believe Janet's dear friend, Jim Moran, was mayor of Alexandria, VA, when a drunk drove into and damaged the Confederate soldier that's smack in the middle of Washington Street, downtown's main N-S drag. DYankee Moran and the City Council-D were all for moving it to an obscure park, but someone had wisely gotten the VA legislature to pass a law when it was put up in the 1880's, that it had to be maintained in that location.
My mom's small hometown of Oxford NC had theirs right in the middle of the main "T" intersection in town, which wasn't that big a problem, because no one was in a hurry. It was moved next to the Library in the 70's, largely because blacks could vote.
Posted by: Ralph L | May 28, 2012 at 07:16 PM
((I can't find the reasoning behind the Flag Code procedure for Memorial Day, but I have my own belief of what it represents.
Your raise the flag at sunrise and then promptly lower it to half-staff. This is to properly recognise the lives lost in defense of this great nation.
At noon you raise the flag all the way. This is to show respect for the great nation that honors it's dead in such a way.
))
I think another aspect of raising the flag after it's been at half mast is to assert victory for the fallen. They did not die if vain. The raising of the flag acknowledges their great achievement and their gift to the living.
Posted by: Chubby | May 28, 2012 at 07:17 PM
"in vain"
Posted by: Chubby | May 28, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Janet,
That was special. God Bless Babe and Bill.
"where do we get such men?"
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 07:18 PM
That's Johnny Reb, facing south. I seem to recall when I was a kid some guys turned him around to face north on Halloween.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | May 28, 2012 at 07:21 PM
--Comparing today's display photo at bing.com versus google.com, I see that one company is not ashamed to have an American heritage.--
Same thing every patriotic holiday, Jim. It's the main reason I don't use google anymore. That and the cool every day pics on bing.
Posted by: Ignatz | May 28, 2012 at 07:25 PM
((This time around, when people learn about Romney, it'll be even more eye-opening. ))
due to that email and his not taking a salary while gov of MA, which I didn't previously know, I went to Wiki and read his biography which seems to be quite thorough. I learned a ton of stuff about him.
Posted by: Chubby | May 28, 2012 at 07:28 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/us-commandos-parachuted-n-korea-report-212356834.html
IMO, this will create some unhappy Memorial Days. I see no benefit in publishing this info.
Posted by: pagar | May 28, 2012 at 07:36 PM
They insist on '1984' as a how to guide, and you wouldn't believe to what extent;
http://patterico.com/2012/05/27/brett-kimberlin-gets-his-wikipedia-entry-removed/comment-page-10/#comment-975285
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 07:37 PM
"On Sunday, in discussing the uses of the word 'hero' to describe those members of the armed forces who have given their lives, I don't think I lived up to the standards of rigor, respect and empathy for those affected by the issues we discuss that I've set for myself," Hayes says in a written statement.
Hey Chris - how about the standards of decency and respect society has set for us and has been in place for more than two centuries?
Leave aside for a minute that this "apology" came as a result of the massive outcry by good and decent people. Focus instead on the fact that the threshold for civility and respect and decency with these d-bags is the standards they set for themselves.
I don't care if anyone calls me a "hero" or not. I did my job, looked after those who were under me, and came back alive. No bigs AFAIC. Many, many people did not share that experience in their tours. But there is no level of contempt deep enough for a person who has done nothing but absorb the benefits of the system he rails against, and yet refuses to see the very real sacrifice that many others have made on his behalf, including the ultimate sacrifice. He doesn't have to say the word, but he damn well ought to think the thought.
Posted by: Soylent Red | May 28, 2012 at 07:38 PM
Who would that apology influence?
Posted by: Extraneus | May 28, 2012 at 07:44 PM
'the first rule of fight club, ahem, Special Forces, is you don't talk about penetrations into denied areas, you would think Vietnam would have taught them this lesson.
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Who would that apology influence?
You got a point there. I'm guessing both viewers of MSNBC were not moved.
Still, WTF kind of apology is based on the fact that you offended your own morality? Is he apologizing to himself?
Posted by: Soylent Red | May 28, 2012 at 07:52 PM
For this Memorial Day (actually it isn't until the 30th), from the son of an old associate, who is currently leading a SpecOps in Afghanistan. We did a mail mob on him:
All,
Just wanted to write you a quick note to thank you for your messages. We had a ceremony this morning in our compound where we remembered all those who have given their lives to support Special Operations Forces' efforts here in this part of Afghanistan - well done and a good tribute. I didn't know more than a couple of the individuals personally, but I know many of their names well because our outstation locations are named after several of them.
Our folks here are in good spirits and are ready to do what we can, as the "fighting season" really kicks off here, to continue the efforts of those before us. I think a large part of that spirit comes from the support that we get from home and the fact that folks are thinking about us and praying for us, and we appreciate every bit of that. The rest of it, though, comes from a dedication to this admittedly difficult mission to both empower the Afghan people to protect themselves, while also defeating our enemies' attempts to keep us from doing that. Some places we have seen success, others frustration, but Lord willing the overall effort will give this country a chance to stand on its feet.
I'll be passing your thoughts on to my personnel here...again, thanks for the messages, and please know that our folks are doing good work here.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | May 28, 2012 at 07:53 PM
narciso, the problem with the "neutral" wikipedia editors is that they are biased without knowing they are biased. That is a common trait of lefties; they think that they are moderate, aka "neutral" and have fits if anyone calls them a lefty. Righties are far better at honest self analysis than most lefties. We know what our biases are and are honest enough to admit them.
Posted by: Chubby | May 28, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Henry,
If you were working with Amdahl in WI, we probably know a lot of the same people,Tom Forer, Ed Green, John Hanson, Jim Cunningham. Loved Amdahl. When we were in the process of dumping IBM an IBM big shot called our CEO and told him that his IT people were making a huge mistake. In a shocking display of support our CEO told him that he had total confidence in us and not to have anyone else call.
Posted by: Harrjf | May 28, 2012 at 08:04 PM
Harrjf, the Amdahls were in MA & I was in Philly. I wrote DSS reports, and once missed a semicolon and crashed the whole data enter for a weekend. ; )
Posted by: henry | May 28, 2012 at 08:12 PM
narciso, another aspect of the problem is the contemporary business model that wikipedia, google and others practice, that of zero accountablity to the people who use their free services. zero accountability is the price we pay for all the so-called free stuff on the intertubes.
Posted by: Chubby | May 28, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Romney is surprising me very pleasantly. I hope he will continue to remain calm and generally pleasant-- the contrast with this man who has worn the country out with divisive rhetoric is becoming quite clear.
My number one hope for him is that he articulate a clear-headed, rigorous defense of capitalism.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | May 28, 2012 at 08:24 PM
I remain eternally grateful to all have served to preserve this place, for me, mine, them, and their's.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | May 28, 2012 at 08:26 PM
The left complained about how it was so hard 'to speak truth to power, how a chill wind was suppressing dissent, how intelligence information was being 'stovepiped' a culture of corruption, well it turns out it was all bogus,
The Times, both ofthem, McClatchy, et al,are rather expensive cage liners, a menagerie ofthe most craven, incurious sots to grace a by line, in the case of Shane, Rosenberg, Priest,they have become quite literally the devils advocate.
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 08:42 PM
Narc
If you are still dealing with a burn, I would suggest aloe vera. It will minimize the discomfort. I cant tell you why it works, but it does.
Good luck
Posted by: GMax | May 28, 2012 at 08:44 PM
'Is he apologizing to himself?'
Posted by: Soylent Red | May 28, 2012 at 07:52 PM
Nah. He's not even honest enough to do something that simple. The so-called liberals never fail to disappoint...
Posted by: Beasts of England | May 28, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Hayes, committed a gaffe, in the Kinsleyan sense, inadvertently admitting what he really
believed,
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 08:51 PM
IMO, this will create some unhappy Memorial Days. I see no benefit in publishing this info.
Posted by: pagar | May 28, 2012 at 07:36 PM
From the Ministry of Misinformation. IMHO.
Posted by: Beasts of England | May 28, 2012 at 08:55 PM
I spent part of today reading some reports on how educating for citizenship was educating to put the common good first. And the desired state would be social democracy. To finally create a just world. There was a complaint in this major teaching network about encouraging a patriotic mindset and values.
There is so much work to be done to reacquaint our young people with our historic legacy and what makes us special. Fallen vs having served is a distinction we cannot, unfortunately, afford. We need to teach history and genuine civic traditions not the revised society put out there by the Civic Mission of the Schools reports. Thanks Sandra and ABA.
I know the difference but let's first and foremost in this day and age of so much ignorance and coordinated machinations to undermine everything that has made America great through our schools, if we have a young person who wants to use today to honor all who served, accept their thanks. That's such a healthy start under the circumstances of their miseducation.
I am also anticipating the next several rather painful posts. All of which involve the UN. When I get done you can tell me if it feels like moral treason to you. At a minimum.
Here's to finally doing an autopsy for what is going on in ed so we can get back to teaching kids to read properly. There are few better tales out there than real history.
Posted by: rse | May 28, 2012 at 08:59 PM
This Hayes buttwipe, is an editor for the Nation magazine in addition to a contributor/host on MSDNC. Its actually this fellow traveler even attempted an apology. Perhaps someplace deep down there is a shred of decency left? We can hope.
Posted by: GMax | May 28, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Let's make this the year that MSNBC and all its leading commentators go out of business for good.
Posted by: Clarice | May 28, 2012 at 09:06 PM
A rhetorical question for all you coders. (I asked this some weeks ago, but as usual, it was a thread terminator.)
How come in this day and age, there isn't one and only one ASCII table for general purpose communications? It is infuriating that in the most genetic circumstances, text, even in HTML formatted ads, etc., you end up with shotgun splatters where lowly quote marks and apostrophes once resided.
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | May 28, 2012 at 09:07 PM
How come in this day and age, there isn't one and only one ASCII table for general purpose communications? It is infuriating that in the most genetic circumstances, text, even in HTML formatted ads, etc., you end up with shotgun splatters where lowly quote marks and apostrophes once resided.
Blame Microsoft for some of it. There really is a single, unified character set that's SUPPOSED to be universal and comprehensive, but MSFT insists on "smart quotes" and other characters that only exist on their systems.
Posted by: Rob Crawford | May 28, 2012 at 09:10 PM
MT, the short answer is global interconnection. Different code sets (called code pages) are used to accomodate character sets of particular languages (tildes, umlauts, plus fun double byte stuff like Chinese or Arabic). The ASCII codes for these things overlap, with "interesting" results. It is very tricky to pull off true multilingual given control of the server codepage, but not the client codepage.
Posted by: henry | May 28, 2012 at 09:19 PM
R.I.P.
Van T. Barfoot died at the age of 92 on 2 March 2012.
You might remember a news story several months ago about a crotchety old man who defied his homeowners association and refused to take down the flagpole on his property and the large flag that flew on it. Now you can find out who, exactly, that old man was.
On June 15, 1919, Van T. Barfoot was born in Edinburg -- probably didn't make much news back then. Twenty-five years later, on May 23, 1944, near Carano , Italy , Van T. Barfoot, who had enlisted in the US Army in
1940, set out to flank German machine gun positions from which fire was coming down on his fellow soldiers. He advanced through a minefield,took out three enemy machine gun positions and returned with 17 prisoners of war.
If that wasn't enough for a day's work, he later took on and destroyed three German tanks sent to retake the machine gun positions
That probably didn't make much news either, given the scope of the war, but it did earn Van T. Barfoot, who retired as a colonel after also serving in Korea and Vietnam , a Congressional Medal of Honor.
What did make news was a neighborhood association's quibble withhow the 90-year-old veteran chose to fly the American flag outside his suburban Virginia home. Seems the rules said a flag could be flown on a house-mounted bracket, but, for decorum, items such as Barfoot's 21-foot flagpole were unsuitable.
He had been denied a permit for the pole, erected it anyway and was facing court action if he didn't take it down. Since the story made national TV, the neighborhood association has rethought its position and agreed to indulge this old hero who dwells among them.
"In the time I have left I plan to continue to fly the American flag without interference," Barfoot told The Associated Press. As well he should. And if any of his neighbors still takes a notion to contest him, they might want to read his Medal of Honor citation. It indicates he's not real good at backing down.
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Posted by: Rocco | May 28, 2012 at 09:20 PM
DOT, I feel better about Romney than I felt about McCain, Bush and Dole.
Posted by: peter | May 28, 2012 at 09:22 PM
Is that why, Google Translate, not to mention,
Babelfish, seems to turn out results like that
faux Hungarian/English phrasebook.
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 09:22 PM
I'm really perplexed about the seeming impossibility of tracing and apprehending these guys who are doing this SWATting thing. I assume there are serious state, and perhaps federal, crimes involved.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | May 28, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Let's make this the year that MSNBC and all its leading commentators go out of business for good.
I certainly share those sentiments, Clarice. However, I think the first to really bite the dust will be CNN. MSNBC will continue to attract the Dudu's and Bubu's and their ilk - the crazies of our world, who they seem to cater to openly.
Posted by: centralcal | May 28, 2012 at 09:30 PM
The were a number of Medals awarded for the Anzio campaign, Rocco, and I am firmly of the belief that anyone who served there had/has the absolute right to tell the busybodies to take a running jump at a rolling donut.
It was Hell in a very small place and the casualties were massive.There probably should have been more citations awarded, but some units made it a point not to. The unit badge was enough.
LUN to a story about a guy I knew who passed away 2 years ago. I think it brings the reality of Anzio into some sort of comprehension.
He was recommended for a DSC but the paperwork was lost and the officers recommending it died in combat shortly after the events that day.
I went to bat with the Army, who refused to re-open the case. From what I pieced together, he probably deserved the Medal.
The Anzio vets are something special. Italy was the second or third stage by May, 1944. Everything went towards Overlord and then Dragoon and Market Garden.
By 1945, it was still a slog and only ended when the Germans surrendered in May.
Posted by: matt | May 28, 2012 at 09:34 PM
I feel the same way, DoT.
I can't understand that.
Posted by: Clarice | May 28, 2012 at 09:34 PM
I just spoke with a fellow I see about the neighborhood from time to time. It turns out he was an army aviator and parachutist and got shot down three times in Vietnam. He shrugs at my expression of gratitude and is quite modest. Career army, he retired and now tutors kids in SAT.
Posted by: Jim Ryan | May 28, 2012 at 09:40 PM
I think there is a degree of not willing to look into that briar patch, in Kimberlin's
native MD, the attorney general, has all but
said, how high, as to the star chamber against O'Keefe, in California, first Brown
and now Harris are so indebted to the Sorosphere's tentacles, one practically can't tell them apart.
Posted by: narciso | May 28, 2012 at 09:43 PM
I'm really perplexed about the seeming impossibility of tracing and apprehending these guys who are doing this SWATting thing. I assume there are serious state, and perhaps federal, crimes involved.
It's an Orwellian nightmare come to fruition. The press won't report it. The police won't enforce the laws even after being used by the offenders. Our elected officials ignore it. I haven't seen anything like it and it's pretty damn infuriating.
Posted by: Captain Hate | May 28, 2012 at 09:45 PM
For over 20 years, I represented hundreds of condominium and homeowner associations in GA, VA, DC, DE, PA, NH, VT, CO, MD, TX and CA. I only had to fire a few such clients. It would have given me great pleasure to have fired the Sussex Square HOA in Henrico County, VA for its treatment of Col Barfoot.
What a bunch of sanctimonious buffoons.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet | May 28, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Clarice-
I'm willing to bet there exists, funding outside of the charity, logistics at other, better funded 501(c)-3s, and coordinated research for their actions.
Oh, and coordinated, institutionalized, political cover.
They do "that" here. A lot. It's a "Machine" thing. Right up and until they need to be burned. We're not at that stage yet. They have local "support" somewhere.
Posted by: Melinda Romanoff | May 28, 2012 at 09:50 PM