If A Tree Falls In The Forest...

If a tree falls in the forest but no one from the liberal media is there to blame Bush, then how did the Yankees do last night?

Sorry. The WaPo has a laugh-out-loud attempt to evaluate the Zimmerman 911 'Scream' tape which includes this headscratcher:

If you can’t hear the 45 seconds, how do you hear the 45 seconds?

Nobody can really hear anything on that tape, it's too loud.  But you can observe a lot just by watching, so maybe Yogi Berra can take over the prosecution.

OK, seriously.

Legal experts say the recording could be enormously important or disastrous for either side, depending on what a jury determines it can hear.

But what happens when a potentially crucial piece of evidence in one of the most explosive court cases in recent memory is a poor-quality recording of overlapping voices and unintelligible yells, essentially a wilderness of sound?

I think that expert testimony will confirm a juror's common sense - if the background screaming on the tape is unintelligible (my experience) and we don't have samples of Zimmerman, Martin and the 13 year old dogwalker screaming (we don't) then any attempt to draw a conclusion from that tape is unreasonable speculation and should not be admissible. The FBI experts brought in by the state prosecutors couldn't draw any conclusions, and plenty of voice experts explain why at their websites.

The WaPo finds one expert who hears Martin begging for his life. No scenario leading up to that is suggested; given Zimmerman's injuries I guess the theory would be that Zimmerman let Martin beat him for a while, then drew his gun, taunted him for nearly a minute, and executed him. I don't think that timing works with what witness 'John' saw (Zimmerman on bottom getting beaten ad screaming for help, and a gunshot very shortly thereafter), but who knows?

The WaPo also talks with the former head of the FBI audio lab:

Ryan is the retired head of the FBI forensic audio, video and image analysis unit. He said even the best audio forensic expert in the world using the most sophisticated equipment available would have a difficult time determining much at all from a recording of such degraded quality.

“I think it’s hard to scientifically say anything definitive with audio like this,” Ryan said. “. . . One person will come up with one scenario, one speech, one sentence, and some other well-meaning person, trying hard, unbiased in a controlled environment with headphones, will come up with another one.”

...

Ryan also questioned the basic idea that the age of the person or persons screaming during the 45 seconds — and thus whether it was 17-year-old Martin or 28-year-old Zimmerman or both — can be determined by measuring frequency, or pitch.

“To my knowledge, there are no scientific studies of pitch as an indicator or anything else in a scream that would give someone confidence to say how old somebody was,” Ryan said.

When it comes to emotionally charged situations, especially a life-or death situation, the range of the human voice is simply too wide and varied to correlate it accurately to age, Ryan said.

A 28-year-old might scream like a 17-year old. A 17-year old might yell like a 28-year-old.

“The science doesn’t help with a recording like this,” Ryan said. “There isn’t anything to hang your hat on.”

The WaPo concludes with a bit of broadly applicable wisdom:

Ultimately, the only answer to that question that will really matter, if the case goes to trial, is the jury’s. How it hears the 45 seconds, said Stephen A. Saltzburg, a law professor at George Washington University, will depend partly on the machinations and strategies deployed during the trial.

...

“Most trial lawyers believe, and most psychologists who study the way that people process information believe, that once people interpret something in a certain way, once they begin to believe something, they become committed to that,” he said. “And if they become committed, it’s hard to change their minds.”

That certainly explains the media coverage.

Comments

[GMax]

This must be the new diplomacy we heard so much about:

new French President Francois Hollande skipped Mr. Obama’s remarks at Monday’s session, arriving to take his seat only after Mr. Obama had finished speaking.

When even hard lefties dont want to hear a word you have to say, you have lost the room...

[narciso]

Oh, you mean it's not real 'larks vomit' good to know.

[GMax]

And now Harold Ford? Tongue lashing from Axlegrease to follow:

Former Tennessee Rep. Harold Ford Jr. said Monday that he would not have walked back New Jersey Mayor Cory Booker’s surprising comments criticizing the Obama campaign for attacking private equity.

“I would not have backed off the comments if I were Mayor Booker,” Ford, a Democrat, said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “The substance of his comments on ‘Meet the Press,’ I agree with the core of it. I would not have backed them out… private equity’s not a bad thing. As a matter of fact, private equity is a good thing in many, many instances.”

Why if these guys were not Democrats, and black, I would expect the racist charge to be trotted out!

[Melinda Romanoff]

Rick-

That 10yr bid last week was a re-launch of the "Doom" bid, in part, where the other part was to "help" JP unwind their CIO's, {cough-hedge fund-cough}, hedging of the firm's commitments. It's going past $5B, now.

And in other news, the utter failure of the FB launch has launched another navy of a different stripe, the trial bar in NY is going ape hoping to use FB's "tombstone" as a class guide for the impending suits. Geithner has the trigger for Dodd/Frank's Too Big To Fail howitzer, I wonder if he's going to have to yank the lanyard before November?

Too many pots to watch. This is going to get fun.

[narciso]

Who fronted the IPO, they needed someone like
Hambrecht & co, who knew the ropes on such a deal.

[Clarice]

Jim: ""… I don’t know about you folks, but the Missing Man formation *always* chokes me up …"

It does me, too, and it always did. I say that because in my old age I've become sentimental enough to cry at weddings, graduations and such, too.

[narciso]

What I was saying about Tim Blair's law;

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/20/iran-woos-bolivia-for-influence-in-latin-america.html

[Ignatz]

--Those were the creatures I thought as a kid that they looked like flying fake vomit.--

Ah hah! so I wasn't the only one.

--Later on I found out how they made them. They used fake vomit.--

Heh. That I didn't know.

[Ignatz]

--Can we please stop referring to the pro-Martin slant as "liberal media coverage"?--

Yeah, because if Zimmerman was black and Martin white/hispanic, or whatever they've labeled him this week, they' be covering it exactly the same, right?

[xbradtc]

Coyote, if it bleeds, it leads, sure. But that it fit the political narrative of the liberal MSM was what REALLY kept it going. If it had been black on black crime, there would have been next to no coverage.

[narciso]

I would say that's unpossible;

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303610504577418463485745488.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

[Captain Hate]

Btw, how was Bruce's interview of Klein

Very good; two ex-libs having the goods on the JEF. It was like homecoming.

[GMax]

or black on white crime either ( even though that looks like exactly how this started, an attack by a black punk thug ).

[GMax]

It plays to the meme of the liberal gun grabbers too...

[google is my friend]

reason why obamanomics gonna fail.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/romney-bush-hangover.gif

[narciso]

The book is like that whimsical, dead pan coming attraction, that Hitchcock did of Psycho, in 1960, which previewed all the scenes including the shower scene with droll humor, the audience didn't have a clue what they would face, The Times review by contrast, misleads so aggressively, they shouldn't have taken the contract at all;

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303610504577418271290920422.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

[narciso]

Btw, Mrs. David Gregory, is now chief counsel for Google, 'shirley that's a coincidence;

[narciso]

What is the smallest possible size violin for a thousand, alex;

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2012/05/21/katie-courics-whiny-graduation-speech-mistreated-and-cheated-cbs-news

[GMax]

They are not beyond sniping and blaming and have moved on to recriminations and cannibalism. Henry must be laughing his arse off:

Today, the cannibalism continued in the Wall Street Journal. There, union and Democratic officials and strategists are suddenly muttering aloud that the recall hasn’t just become a potential lost cause but could have a ripple effect on November’s presidential election.

In anecdote after anecdote, unnamed officials lamented their fundraising disadvantage vis-à-vis Walker, meanwhile DNC and Obama White House staffers say the recall was always moronic. Some brazenly said they never wanted the recall in the first place, saying the risks nationally were always far greater than the rewards the party could reap from it.

In the meantime, Madison’s liberals blame their counterparts in Washington, D.C. Washington blames Madison in some type of “circular blame squad.” In the end, Wisconsin will be millions poorer, and in all likelihood Walker will remain governor of the Badger State.

[jimmyk]

Can we please stop referring to the pro-Martin slant as "liberal media coverage"? That type of coverage is not motivated by any particular partisan concern.

Since the MSM is 95% liberal, that may be a distinction without a difference. In any case, Fox is as sensationalistic as any, but with the exception of Geraldo early on, they've been relatively fair, and Geraldo to his credit has done a 180. The WSJ has also been fair. Whereas the NYT and NBC (and, earlier, ABC) were irresponsible. So I'm not buying the argument.

And I don't get the allusion to Whitewater. A whole bunch of people were convicted, and there were all sorts of coverups that hindered the investigation, including Susan McDougal's refusal to testify, the missing Rose law records that eventually surfaced in the White House, and so on. I don't think anyone's going to get convicted in this case, as the only criminal is dead.

[Captain Hate]

What is the smallest possible size violin for a thousand, alex

The text of that speech challenges the creativity of Iowahawk to mock; although at Hooville, home of the empty trophy case, it may have been appropriate.

[narciso]

Fitz actually jailed a reporter, for evidence he already knew, with Armitage, he gave as much latitude to one party in the Hollinger matter, David Radler, as Conrad Black, instead of using Rezko to go after big fish, like Daley and even Obama, he went after small fry like Blago, a wardheeler of little importance.

[GMax]

I did not know Geraghty could be this funny, but this is hilarious. Booker recants and its called a "hostage tape" LOL:

Analysts note that in his hostage tape, Booker blinks in Morse code, ‘MY CITY STILL NEEDS A THRIVING FINANCIAL SECTOR.’ … A figure with ties to both the Obama camp and high finance, like Jon Corzine, may be permitted to visit Booker’s conscience in captivity…. The angry mob of Obama staffers is now chanting, “DOWN WITH THE GREAT LIEBERMAN,” an ancient figure associated with betrayal in their faith… In an ominous development for the fate of Booker’s conscience, Ayatollah Axelrod has declared it guilty of “apostasy against our deity.” When Booker’s conscience called the Bain attacks “crap” and “nauseating”, he committed blasphemy under the strict orthodoxy of Obamism… All across the country, candlelight vigils are beginning, with millions praying for the safe release of Cory Booker’s conscience.”

[narciso]

That was m y 7;35 link, Gmax.

[GMax]

Too many threads and posts today Narc. I just could not read everything. And its funny enough to repeat and rub the progs faces in it, that too.

[Gus]

This Corzine of whom you speak. Is he part of the MADOFF clan??

[GMax]

Did I say Jon Corzine, I meant to say Obama bundler Corzine resigned in disgrace after over a $1 B of MF Global depositors funds goes "missing"...

[narciso]

I found off M alkin's blog roll;

More bad news: a commando mission to rescue Booker's unjustly incarcerated conscience, OPERATION EAGLE KINSLEY'S LAW, has been scrubbed.
21 May 12

jimgeraghty @jimgeraghty

As with that other famous hostage crisis, we may need to elect a new president to see a happy ending. #FreeCoreyBooker
21 May 12

jimgeraghty @jimgeraghty

If the Obama campaign refuses to release hostages like Cory Booker's conscience, we must retaliate by freezing their assets.

[Captain Hate]

Yeah Gus, he's just like Bernie other than not being in jail. I'm sure Stedman will get to it right after he visit's Brian Terry's family.

[Captain Hate]

Not sure how that stray apostrophe got in there on "visits"

[daddy]

Great Caesar's Ghost!

Kal-El comes out of the closet?

[narciso]

You mean Don Corzione don't you, Where was Schumer's lapdog Comey, in all this, oh I remember now, hunting twin demons of Martha
Stewart, and Al Gonzalez. as for Bhaara, what's his deal, 1.2 billion goes 'Expecto Petrona, and he's going after the equivalent
of jaywalkers.

[Clarice]

Narciso, your 9:33 was one of your very best..

[Gus]

Brian Terry. He's the U.S.BORDER PATROL AGENT that was KILLED because of Holder and Obama's disgustingly reckless attempt to subvert the 2nd amendment?????

[henry]

Laughing my arse off? With the main recall story now Barrett pushing the John Doe investigation of Walker's staff (originally requested by Walker), we learn the lead investigator has a "Recall Walker" sign in his front yard. He claims his wife put it there -- he has no bias! Right now I'm staying focused. It will be much funnier June 6. ; )

[Gus]

henry, I know John Chisholm, and I am greatly VERY VERY disappointed at this whole politcal hatchet job. I've always liked John very much, and found him to be a stand up guy.
Same was true of Tommy Choo choo Barrett.
I'm really disappointed, but I shouldn't be surprised....they're LIBS.
The "MY WIFE DID IT" is so ball-less as to be a laughable. Chisholm knows now.

[Voldemort Delenda Est ! Sandy Daze]

re GMAX @ 08:12pm:

Don´t know if you have covered this in earlier threads, but I think the coordinated (43 dioceses, hospitals, schools and church agencies) filing today, 21 May, of 12 lawsuits around the nation saying the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services mandate violates religious freedom, is a significant statement of resolve.

Cardinal Dolan:

“We have tried negotiation with the Administration and legislation with the Congress – and we’ll keep at it – but there's still no fix. Time is running out, and our valuable ministries and fundamental rights hang in the balance, so we have to resort to the courts now. Though the Conference is not a party to the lawsuits, we applaud this courageous action by so many individual dioceses, charities, hospitals and schools across the nation, in coordination with the law firm of Jones Day. It is also a compelling display of the unity of the Church in defense of religious liberty. It's also a great show of the diversity of the Church's ministries that serve the common good and that are jeopardized by the mandate – ministries to the poor, the sick, and the uneducated, to people of any faith or no faith at all.”

Preserve Religious Freedom, set up by the Archdiocese of Washington is designed to being a clearing house for all information regarding the lawsuits and the administrationś unprecedented assault on the First Amendment.

Here, Archdiocese of Washington Chancellor Jane Belford explains the significance of the lawsuit filed to protect freedom to practice religion.

Here, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, Archbishop of Washington, explains the significance of the lawsuit filed by Catholic institutions across the country to protect their First Amendment right to religious freedom.

IANAL, but this appears to me to be a very well considered strategy, i.e. 12 lawsuits across the nation, guarantees that the success of failure of the legal action will not be decided in a single legal toss, but rather be considered across the nation, eventually, and likely being driven all the way to the Supreme Court.

No legal retreat, no legal surrender.

The tsunami builds.

PS - Fr Barron also adds to the conversation on Religious Liberty here.

[Strawman Cometh]

I did not know Geraghty could be this funny
Hit's been tutoring him.

[GMax]

Henry its going to be a rout and even better its going to foreshadow the whooping the Democrats are going to take in November. Delicioso!

[narciso]

THanks Clarice, I riffed a little from Rick, but it really is absurd, even the NY Post trumpets the conviction of small fry like Rajatnam, but the largest smash and grab
in the last few years, apparently is allowed to walk, that never happened with Lay and
Fastow or Keating, 'it's two travesties of
a mockery of a sham. The appropriately dubbed
'Sutton Dillinger' had that tiny loophole, that you can appropriate the client's accounts, well that's a joke and ahalf.

[centralcal]

Narciso, your 9:33 was one of your very best..

Maybe it is 8+- years of reading and commenting on these threads, but ever more frequently I am surprised (pleasantly or vehemently - ha ha) by Narciso's links. Things I might have missed or not read, otherwise.

[daddy]

Let's see, the function of NASA is outreach to the Arabs.

The big task before NATO is the economic empowerment of women,

Obesity is the biggest threat we face, not terrorism.

the president's job is to implement fairness.

A School's function is to enhance self-esteem.

Clarice,

Sounds like a new #ObamaWasNot sort of exercise is in the works.

[Gus]

Narciso, the Corzine deal is such a SLIMEY SCANDAL, far more so than Madoff. Corzine is and was connected at the lips with Obama.
We will look back on Obama in 10 years and shake our heads in disbelief. God help this country if we do not put these bastards in prison.

[Gus]

Daddy, not ARABS, but specifically MUSLIMS.

We are in Bizarro world.

[GMax]

if we do not put these bastards in prison.

Maybe we can get an Illinois professor to prosecute them in an Indonesian court if all else fails! LOL

[narciso]

The Octopus, the one thing that nazgul Taibbi has gotten right, Rubin who merged the two firms that became Enron, and picked Ken Lay, because of his sterling reputation, in the Navy and even in the oil patch, who flacked Mexican debt, protecting Carlos Slim's the Times's future gentleman caller, then previewed TBTF with the Asian and Russian collapses, with his protege Geithner. and then
ran up even a bigger scam, as Citgroup's Willy Loman of subprime debt, specially to the likes of Greece.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Gus + henry-

You've got mail.

[narciso]

R est assured, I hope they don't screw this up this time;

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/supreme-court-looks-at-constitutional-challenges-to-anti-terrorism-laws-1.177761?localLinksEnabled=false

[GMax]

How do you know that the Wisconsin recall is DOA? Well when Time Mag runs a story with this, you just know:

on an electoral level, the governor’s opponents have struggled to channel the enthusiasm that garnered more than 1 million recall signatures into a successful campaign.

As a result, the campaign to recall Walker is sputtering, and the governor has pulled ahead in the polls with a little over two weeks to go until the June 5 election. “There’s a lot of despair, a lot of anger,” says Chris Reeder, 41, an activist who helps lead the Solidarity Sing Along. “The polls are very scary.”

To begin with, recall proponents could have used a consensus candidate to pit against the incumbent. Tom Barrett, the Milwaukee mayor who will square off against Walker on June 5, was defeated by the governor in 2010 and advocated for some of the same changes to union benefits (including increasing the amount most public employees contribute to their pension and health care costs) as the governor. Barrett’s record of tangling with unions led labor to squander several million dollars on Dane County executive Kathleen Falk, a liberal primary challenger whom Barrett clobbered by nearly 20 points.

Walker moans about the out-of-state union money arrayed against him, but the truth, say Democrats involved in the recall fight, is that labor is tepid about Barrett and depleted by costly battles in Ohio and Indiana. The Milwaukee mayor has relentlessly attacked Walker, which is to be expected in a race that is by nature a referendum on the incumbent, but Barrett has done little to articulate a clear agenda of his own. When Republicans call Barrett a cipher, they aren’t without a point.

No they aren't. A cipher. And about to be a two time loser. hahahahaha

[Captain Hate]

Great Caesar's Ghost!

AC/DC comix. Golden showers to them

[narciso]

Ah the usual suspects, although the precedent of those quarrelsome Al Harbis and co, probably spoiled the broth;

http://www.brennancenter.org/blog/archives/supreme_court_should_hear_latif_v._obama/

[Captain Hate]

I'm not feeling the love and I'll bet we'd agree on the BeeGees http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-black-panther-field-marshal-whites-should-be-thankful-were-not-hanging-crackers-by-nooses-yet-yet-yet/

[Gus]

GMAX, it wasn't anywhere CLOSE to a million signatures. In fact, they ALLOWED people to sign more than once, and as I browsed the "verifytherecall" site, it became apparent that thousands signed more than once, and thousands of phoney signatures were included. Walker's campaign did not challenge, because there were very very like enough legit signatures. Walker is going to MASH Barrett. Every living breathing sane person, Republicans and Conservatives and a-politcal PRINCIPLED humans are going to show up and kick the libtards to the curb.
Walker is a good decent and honorable man. This whole charade has been out of line.

[narciso]

About that incident in N. Carolina, this is what happens when you get your news from James
Spader's diatribes on 'Boston Legal' there were some 'exclusion zones' at certain locations, but then that conflated that with
shouting down students,

[Sara]

Here is Romney for President's answer to Obama's criticism of Bain.

Big Bain Backfire

[narciso]

This is not the first time he's done this,

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shock-video-new-black-panther-party-member-teaches-black-survival-tactics-with-guns-and-machetes-to-kids/

[Janet]

Love this from Breitbart -

Their Rules, Not Ours: Time to Vet Private Lives of Journalists?

[narciso]

What was that line 'guilty as hell, free as a bird'

http://ironicsurrealism.com/2010/07/06/new-black-panther-king-samir-shabazz-youre-going-to-have-to-kill-some-crackers-youre-going-to-have-to-kill-their-babies-video-transcript/

[Captain Hate]

Walker's campaign did not challenge, because there were very very like enough legit signatures.

Also why stand in the way when some overaged infants are throwing a major tantrum? I think it's hilarious how they've thrown money into this giant sinkhole and now they're all scurrying for cover as the extent of their idiocy is being revealed. I can't wait for the full extent of the infighting and purges. Couldn't happen to a nicer party; although there's another one that better listen to its new leader.

[Gus]

Captain, it's bizarre how much damage the PUBLIC GOOONIONS and their NATIONAL GOONION leaders have done to Wisconsin.
A lot of people comment on how Walker is wrong AND the LEFT is wrong.
BULLSHIT. Walker didn't do ANYTHING outrageous AT ALL.

[Rick Ballard]

I'm not particularly thrilled with seeing all the postmortems on Wisconsin being published prior to the death certificate being signed on June 5th. I'm very confident that Governor Walker will win but if 2-3% decide not to vote because it's in the bag he might lose a Senator or two. It's a great opportunity for a full test drive of the November GOTV as well.

The higher the win percentage, the more money Obama will have to waste trying to defend. The rebellion by Booker and Ford may well be tied to the Pinhead Troika's grab for every nickel available. Both Booker and Ford are better politicians than the President and they both know that 2013 will begin the period to be known as After Obama within the Democrat Party. Establishing an early split and shooting for some distance from the loser is a good practical move on their part.

[GMax]

Gus its Time Magazine! You were expecting accuracy and insight? Think about Time running what they did two weeks before the recall their allies have been working on for 18 months though. Its gonna be a rout...

[narciso]

Wait, what now?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-21/news/os-trayvon-sanford-police-timeline-20120521_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-timeline-investigator-chris-serino

[Gus]

Thanks GMAX. I am cautiously optimistic.
I believe!!!

[narciso]

Yes, Rick,they are trying all of Vizzinis' tricks on Inigo Montoya, but in the end they will still drink the poison chalice,

[Captain Hate]

Whoa, when you're getting pwn3d by Cooper you're tapped out of mojo http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/21/must-watch-cnns-anderson-cooper-demolishes-obama-campaign-spokesman-over-hypocritical-attacks-on-romneys-work-at-bain/

[Captain Hate]

Most transparent politician evarrrrr http://ace.mu.nu/Windows-Live-Writer/Overnight-Open-Thread-5-21-2012_F9C7/Obama-mysteries.jpg

[GMax]

Wisconites are sick to their gills of this childish behavior by Democrats. They showed up in great numbers in the Republican primary when the conclusion was foregone, they are not about to stop short of the tape and let the crazies avoid the full opprobium they so richly deserve. Disaffected libs may well just stay in the park and pound on their drums however...

[Gus]

Bingo GMAX. I think the hand writing is on the wall. There was ZERO reason for GOP'ers and CONSERVATIVES to get out and vote in the primary. BUT WE DID.

[GMax]

Full disclosure, my inlaws are Cheeseheads, I spend a week or so a year in the land of cranberry bogs and Packerbackers.

[narciso]

That one didn't work, Captain;

http://minx.cc/?post=329454

[Beasts of England]

Jane@4:43 - '...maximizing profits is not always good for the neighborhood and the president's job is to implement fairness.'

Spoken by a true economic illiterate. Maximizing profits is the ultimate in fairness because doing such allows other capital (and/or those maximized profits) to be used elsewhere. Oh, and maximizing profits also yields the highest possible tax revenues from said capital (ceteris paribus, natch)!

And what about his chronic and peculiar usage of the word ‘fairness’? Ugh. As I tell my children -- on the very rare occasions during which they bemoan life’s ‘unfairness’ -- ‘If life were fair, one of us would be Chinese.'

[Melinda Romanoff]

Ig and Ex-

You night want to check this GTar thingie out.

This is going to get different.

[Melinda Romanoff]

GMax-

Up by Tomah?

[GMax]

Used to be Wisconsin Rapids these days its Hudson.

[narciso]

He really is just like the OWS fools, I mean who back in the 80s, didn't believe that the
nuclear freeze didn't go far enough toward peace and justice, his pastor was a guest of
the Cuban intelligence service, on more than one occasion,

[Gus]

GMAX. Hudson is where TWINKIES go for Sunday beer!!!!

[Gus]

OFF TOPIC. Whatever happened to the OBAMA/PELOSI/GOOOOONION OCCUPY MOVEMENT???
Where did the WAR ON WOMEN go?
What happened to the MILLIONAIRES and BILLIONAIRES MEME???

[Beasts of England]

GMAX@5:29 - 'Turn me on dead man.'

[Ignatz]

GTar?
Thought it was going to be a combo sex toy and musical instrument. Rats.

[GMax]

I have had Cheese curds fresh from the cheese factory in Rudolf Wisconsin, drank free beer after the tour the Point Brewery in Stevens Point and had custard in Oshkosh, bgosh.

[Gus]

GMAX. You are the man.

[Gus]

GMAX, was that RANDOLPH WI??

[GMax]

Beasts what did I type? That is what I meant.

[Beasts of England]

Italics on! (clap, clap) Italics off! (clap, clap)

Damn, I'm a quick learner...

[Beasts of England]

'turn me deadman'

(and I really replied just to try out my new HTML thingy skills...)

[narciso]

Did you notice that timeline at 9;33, what kind of a railroad are they running there?

[GMax]

Sailed Lake Winnebago, stood in the parking of the Packers stadium, ate taffy in the Dells, saw the Ringling Bros circus at their home base in Baraboo and went skiing at Iron Mountain.

What did I miss? The experimental air show is on the bucket list...

[Gus]

Beasts, it was in response to Skittles Martins tape of....."I BURIED PAUL or I'M VERY BORED".

Played backward by DEE DEE of course.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Lovely part of the state.

No Point Beer for me, thank you. Had enough of that in college, beer wrapped in kraft mill is not my favorite.

G'night all!

[GMax]

Rudolph. A wide spot in the road north of Wisconsin Rapids. Its has the cheese factory and a Catholic Grotto and not even a traffic light...

[Gus]

GMAX you are schooling me. And I am a devout Catholic.

[Sara]

From Hot Air:

Egyptian poll: Romney 73, Obama 25

[Danube of Thought]

Corporate officers and directors having a goal other than maximizing shareholder return on investment can generally be said to be in breach of their fiduciary duty. If such an improper goal can be established they are subject to liability for damages in civil actions by shareholders.

But this dumb shit of a president doesn't know that.

[GMax]

Dairy State Cheese Factory in Rudolph Wisc if I remember correctly.

Cranberry bogs are really interesting too...

[narciso]

Remember how I was holding out some hope, scratch that;

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/21/911-truther-leading-egyptian-presidential-race/

Then again even the liberal Wafd party, has gone into the looney bin.

[Captain Hate]

Kramerica should capture this market niche on coffee table books http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/21/former-tiger-woods-mistress-and-porn-star-to-appear-in-book-dedicated-to-trayvon-martin/

[Beasts of England]

Gus@11:05 - DeeDee's syntax is the same forward or backward! And unintelligible, as well.

[GMax]

Cmon everyone needs to drink of the Fox River. My first visit to Rapids was difficult. I could not figure out what that sickening sweet smell was. Pulp from the paper mills.

[narciso]

'Brawndo, electrolytes' is the only possible response,