Obama's Latest Gutsy Call

Presumably muttering "'Effing Joe Biden" off-mike, Pres. Obama ended the suspense and finally evolved on gay marriage.

Jacob Sullum has more background.

And by way of Bill Jacobson we see that, having declared his personal view, Obama has exhausted his gutsiness; this is from ABC News:

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. But he said he’s confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters’ comfort with the concept.

Bold. That puts the President spectating on the sidelines with me. Of course, I am not running for President...

WORD RETRIEVAL ISSUES: From Obama's interview:

when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf...

Oh, please - the greatest speaker in the history of speech meant "at my behest". Or maybe he really beleives these guys enlisted to fight for him and not the USA.

 

Comments

[Clarice]

Reminds me of this famous old movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoMSmi6IlBk

[Frau Heirat]

Preezy goes full Cal Worthington and his dog Spot.

[hit and run]

Gutsy, or did this call get made just a little anatomically lower?

[Dave (in MA)]

He was for it before he was against it before he was for it.

[Stephanie]

Yeah for the preteen and teener vote!

[xbradtc]

Can we use the President's newfound respect for states rights to our effect? If Romney is smart, he'll ask why gay marriage gets deferred to the states, but tons of other issues that SHOULD be, aren't.

[hit and run]

Obama has evolved into Dick Cheney.

[Rick Ballard]

Clarice,

BOzo's campaign bus just have to be named the ACME Express.

[pagar]

IMO, North Carolina just said they were not comfortable with it.

[Dave (in MA)]

Under President Obama Julia is finally able to marry her longtime partner, and both are covered under the Affordable Care Act rather than having to be covered by the better health insurance provided by one of the couple's employers.
Under Mitt Romney Julia and Deb can gas up the Subaru and still afford to stop by Whole Foods to pick up some arugula and some organic dog food for their wolf-hybrid "Indigo".

[hit and run]

From Obama's coming out:

when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf

In Obama's mind the military is fighting for Obama.

[Clarice]

Thanks, RB.\

[Captain Hate]

So he was against it before he was for it but he isn't gonna do anything about it; is that right? I fail to see how that does anything for anybody, which keeps it in line with everything else he does.

[Clarice]

Just read a Ga tea party collected over $12 million (WSJ). That oughta wake up the jackasses sitting in Washington deciding what we can sell at bake sales, light our houses with, and who we can hire and fire.

I notice the Mass. legislature just smelled the roses and voted to rescind the no school bake sale rule.
TSA is next, now that it's clear that the only underwear bombers on on our payroll and not passing as 96 year old wheelchair bound grannies in diapers.

[Clarice]

**bombers ARE on our payroll..."

[lyle]

So preznit "gutsy call" consulted his preternaturally wise daughters? What a guy.

[Jane]

141 electoral votes in states that oppose gay marriage.

[Clarice]

Note the addendum to TM's post, and remember the sheriff's song and dance in "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas"

The Sidestep:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8

[centralcal]

The ACME jokes just keep writing themselves (for Clarice and for RickB). Weasel Zippers just posted this:

Coast Guard Vessel Commissioned by the First Grifter Now Has Four Leaks — One the Size of a Golfball

And on that note I believe it’s safe to say that she and her husband pretty much destroy everything they touch.

[Rob Crawford]

So preznit "gutsy call" consulted his preternaturally wise daughters? What a guy.

Didn't Jimmy Carter pull the same stunt?

[jimmyk]

Yep, Amy favored nuclear disarmament or some such.

[hit and run]

What happens if Malia tells her dad she thinks it's ok for grown men to have sex with 14 year olds?

[Appalled]

Obama's stance, in my opinion, is the right one. But I doubt he really has a problem with state courts imposing gay marriage, as state courts have done. So, it's not like he's supporting let the people decide. He's saying "let somebody else decide".

That's better than the usual Obama, so I won't be piling on this time.

It must be embarassing, though, to be outed by Joe Biden.

[centralcal]

Hhhmmm:

Lachlan Markay ‏ @LachlanMarkay
While you were talking about SSM, the DOE official in charge of the Solyndra program resigned. http://bit.ly/KbgZcz

[Clarice]

I wish the press would pay more attention to issues of more immediate and significant import.

[sailor]

It is all a "tempest in a teapot." Obama will have no say as to whether or not we have gay marriage--he is just doing this to get the gay votes and to put Romney "on the spot." I do so hope that Mitt does not "take the bait."

[lyle]

Is this the "cliche" comment thread?

I'm "good to go."

[Janet]

"The language that voters saw on the ballot reads:[7]

Constitutional amendment to provide that marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State."

[lyle]

What happens if Sasha thinks it's OK if she started snorting crystal meth?

[AliceH]

Obama just cannot stand to let anything Republican dominate a news cycle.

I predict another press conference or speech the day after the WI recall elections. Axelrod and Plouffe are no doubt arguing now about what sooper excuse to use for that one. I hope it's that he's asked for Holder's resignation.

[centralcal]

RIP Vidal Sassoon

(I always thought he had a great name!)

[sailor]

Well, go for it, lyle!! Should be fun to read.

[DebinNC]

This is what was on my NC ballot:

Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts

[rse]

John Goodman had a post up this morning about bo's regulators bypassing any attempt to cost out the Obamacare regulations. Didn't follow relevant statutes plus what cost out has now been done indicates over and over that the cost of benefits exceeds what is gained. Including the up through age 26 on parents provision.

Will try to find. Very infuriating.

[lyle]

I can't top yours, sailor!

[RichatUF]

I wish the press would pay more attention to issues of more immediate and significant import.

Why would they do that? Pretty tough to come up with another Dem ad campaign for Recovery Summer III: $4.00/gal gas, 8% unemployment, and laughs...

[DebinNC]

That puts the President spectating on the sidelines with me

His Indian name is Spectating From Behind.

[lyle]

Little Big Man...oh, wait a minute!

[RichatUF]

cliche..."At the end of the day", Obama's evolution speaks to his strength and character. His genius leadership, like a wiley ol' coyote, his put the Reps right where he wants them as Obama continues to take his foot soliders to the precipise.

[jimmyk]

The press acts like Obama is some kind of oracle, whose pronouncement on any contentious issue is of profound importance. Because he's the smartest president evah, don't you know.

cc, Sassoon is a fairly common surname among Jews with Persian roots.

[RichatUF]

damn...it wasn't even funny upon a second reading and his->has

[lyle]

I'd give you a solid B+, RichUF

[Gus]

I thought Opies mouth piece and press secretary Richie Cunningham told us just yesterday that Opies position was "Crystal Clear".

By position, he meant Opie's POLITICAL POSITION, as opposed to the GAY KAMA SUTRA.

[NK]

The more 'Bam invokes his 'daughters' the more I believe he's a poof and they were conceived by turkey baster, honestly. No modern father treats teen and pre-teen daughters who he loves and wants to protect that way. Either that, or he's completely mental.... My troops "fighting on my behalf." God he is mental.

[lyle]

"It is as it was."

BTW, how is it even possible that Il Douche's current press flack could actually be worse than the previous one?

[RichatUF]

Thanks man, it was a solid D effort.

[lyle]

"Is the hole plugged yet, daddy?"

[centralcal]

I didn't know that, thanks Jimmyk.

The Press - phooey. During lunch I clicked away from the gawd-awful Shep and stopped just long enough on one of the CNN channels to see an orgasmic Wolf Blitzer declare Obama's statement as "historic." Clicked again, another CNN channel with unknown reporters yammering about Romney's gay marriage stance, with furrowed brows and dire warnings - since it was now opposite of Obama's hour's old new position.

Totally disgusting.

[DC]

It was a necessary step. It's difficult to erase discrimination for a minority group until the country's leadership steps up and recognizes the discrimination. So good for him -- Romney wouldn't have the balls to do it, even though he probably believes the same thing.

[Appalled]

rse:

I think the John Goodman post you want is here:

http://healthblog.ncpa.org/obama-administration-health-care-rule-making-is-a-disordered-mess/#more-25399

[Dave (in MA)]

lyle, LOL

[Jane]

ROmney's response was that it's up to the states and his own position "since he has been running for office"(odd) is that marriage is between a man and a woman.

I'm for gay marriage and his answer did not offend me.

[Gus]

DC. Obama is desperate. So are you.

[Clarice]

A very small percentage of Americans are gay. An even smaller number of gay Americans are for legally recognized marriages, at least to the point of overriding their concern about other things--the effin economy, in particular. Since the media can't count and lives in some pampered bubble they have to seek out extraneous coastal elite issues like this to give play to.

[lyle]

Thanks, Dave. Consider it LOL reciprocity for this one:

their wolf-hybrid "Indigo".

[lyle]

at least to the point of overriding their concern about other things--the effin economy, in particular

Three of the gay guys I know are small business owners. The lesbian couple four doors down in my neighborhood had Bush signs on their lawn in '00 and '04.

[Rob Crawford]

Word on the street is Obama supports gay marriage because someday he hopes to marry the love of his life.

Himself.

[Thomas Collins]

I know, it's Joe Biden, but I think Joe's remarks were vetted with Axelplouffe as preparatory to Obama's announcement of his evolution. My gut instinct tells me that more Julias of the world won't come out to vote for Obama becasue of this, but it will help Obama solidify the non-black voter portion of his base, and won't lose him any black votes. On the other hand, I don't think Romney will lose persuadables in battleground states because of this. So, I think this is a necessary step for Obama for base strengthening, but it won't broaden his support.

[daddy]

Smartest Secretary of State ever:

Hillary's gift to Mamata full of spelling mistakes

"With the Mamata-Hillary meet still fresh in their minds, people would not comment on the faux pas. But in the cyberworld, pictures of Mamata holding up the mat have gone viral.

So has the condemnation.

"I think this is an insult to Tagore and to all Bengali speaking people," says one netizen.

And it's a sentiment echoed by dozens.

In fact, there is at least one online petition demanding an apology from the US embassy in Delhi for the mistakes and a correction of the same..."

[jimmyk]

Rob, that would suggest his next oracular pronouncement will be to support cloning.

[Ignatz]

--That's better than the usual Obama, so I won't be piling on this time.--

No, it's the same old Obama; lying about what his real position is [gay marriage should be imposed] for political expediency.
He doesn't think it's a state's issue out of principle but because most states have already voted gay marriage down so he can court gays while not overly offending the bitter clingers.

[Rob Crawford]

I told you my trip to Florida didn't go well:

"Mystery deepens surrounding sea beast of Cincinnati"

LUN

(I resent the "fossil" implication, as well. I'm not a kid anymore, but "fossil"?!)

[Gus]

Tom Collins is correct, I said that the other day. This was calculated and a trial balloon, Slow Joe dimbulb Biden did as he was ordered to do. It was WAY OVER the top, and Biden was playing.
As for Rob Crawfords comment:
Rob, word on the "street" is that Obama is for Gay marriage because Obama is GAY.

[lyle]

and won't lose him any black votes

He could disinter the body of Martin Luther King, hang it from a tree, and STILL not lose the black vote. But they sure don't like gay marriage.

[Gus]

Daddy, not to worry, RODHAM has a RESET button.

[Rob Crawford]

Rob, word on the "street" is that Obama is for Gay marriage because Obama is GAY.

I doubt that. That would require a commitment from him.

[pagar]

It was all For the Money! Claiming that he did it for his daughters is just another lie.

http://freebeacon.com/gay-for-pay/

[Gus]

Rob, I'm not saying he's gay, but Larry Sinclair is. On the street.

[daddy]

Did the pony tailed inmate say he was for Gay Marriage yet?

[Captain Hate]

The only thing I want to know is was Diane Sawyer drunk during the interview?

[daddy]

"**bombers ARE on our payroll..."

Well that certainly makes it easier for us to keep track of them.

[BB Key]

Pagar, Sully just said the same thing on NPR. NC gets results :)

[Soylent Red]

In Obama's mind the military is fighting for Obama

I did not get this memo.

So preznit "gutsy call" consulted his preternaturally wise daughters?

No matter what the case, we are being ruled by children.

[Sara]

According to Cavuto, within minutes of Obama's evolution, the conservative floodgates were opened for Romney.

[lyle]

The only thing I want to know is was Diane Sawyer drunk during the interview?

Is a sober Diane Sawyer as easily discernable, CH?

[Captain Hate]

So good for him -- Romney wouldn't have the balls to do it, even though he probably believes the same thing.

So what did he do, gerbil killer? Go on national tv and ruminate about his ignorant thought patterns and say he isn't doing a damn thing regarding anything that will impact one person's life. THE BALLS ON THAT GUY!!!!

[Sue]

within minutes of Obama's evolution, the conservative floodgates were opened for Romney.

What does that mean?

[daddy]

Dennis Miller provided the Liz Warren line today.

Caller: "Dennis, do you know what the latest name is for Elizabeth Warren?---Fake-a hontus."

Dennis: "Hadn't heard that, but I do know the man in her life is known as Fake-anorgasm."

Guess you had to be there:)

[Thomas Collins]

Don't worry, daddy, Obama will make up for the State Department's gaffe when he sends the Mamata the DVD version.

[Sue]

From twitter:

Gitmo's open, drones are icing bad guys, gay marriage praised... it's like Dick Cheney is president.

[Gus]

Obama is focused like a LASER on...........

[Captain Hate]

Well lyle, I don't think I've ever seen her in the middle of the afternoon before. She might not slur her words as much.

[lyle]

Yeah, DC, the discrimination against homosexuals is so bad they can't vote, own property, get a job, get promoted, start a business, raise children, run for office, get elected, accumulate wealth, buy expensive autos, retire...

[Gus]

Diane Saucer. Hic.

[Jane]

Any bets on whether Dick will have heard about Warren tomorrow?

[rse]

CH-did you happen to see her on GM the morning after the Inaugural when she was clearly tipsy at the minimum and admitted it.

ABC broke into its programming for the historic announcement.

I just saw a blurb I did not recognize and did a little investigating. The nea has developed a social and emotional learning/civic values/reimaging America for the Common Good curriculum. Gag. They have also trademarked virtually every program involved in it. I even have the price list to secure training for the kids at your child's school.

Yes there will be an order to the revelations. I remain floored by all the machinations being put in place to use Common Core to change our children right under our noses.

[sailor]

Well, if O supports gay marriage but wants the states to decide, does he also want the states to decide their immigration policies? Will anyone ask him?

[Captain Hate]

No rse; I did my best to avoid that "historic/hysteric" broadcasting that all the alphabets did.

[Frau Vergangenheit]

RIP Vidal Sassoon-

I went to his shop in Bebberly Hills years ago and in coming down in the elevator afterwards, all of us had the same cut and looked like clones. Ah, the same time period gave us Rudi Gernreich.

[peter]

All just a distraction to keep attention away from the horrendous economy.

[Captain Hate]

Jane, I'm getting the impression that a significant part of your show, if not most of it, is you bringing Dick up to speed on things we discuss here. If so, I think that's a good format.

[Gus]

Capn' they should call the show Dick and Jane...........and Cap'n and Gus.

[Jim Eagle]

jimmyk,

Maybe that it is a Persian Jew name but Vidal was an Israeli freedom fighter during the 1948 war, if memory serves me correctly. I do know that later in his career having made the big time and big bucks he set up an anti-semiticsism foundation and think tank.

[Frau Vergangenheit]

their wolf-hybrid "Indigo".

How about matching huskies?

[daddy]

Maybe Hillary went "Au Naturale" as a tribute to Vidal Sassoon's passing.

[Sara]

What does that mean?

Your guess is as good as mine. I kept waiting for a followup, but instead we got Christine O'Donnell.

[pagar]

"In Obama's mind the military is fighting for Obama"

http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/05/09/obama-did-not-still-doesnt-view-himself-as-an-american/

All you need to know!

[Jim Eagle]

i'll tell you what a real gutsy call would be for Obama: Dumping Biden for Hillary. What kind of demographic out there would all of a sudden rally around that face - the tagore of bengali? I doubt it.

[rse]

Frau-in her great book, The Future and its Enemies, Virginia Postrel writes about what a dynamic shift that Sassoon haircut was. It made hair something that could be styled at home and gutted that weekly visit to the hair salon and then the bubble head the rest of week.

[dublindave]

God bless you Mr.President.

'nother one for the...yawn...sorry..didn't get much sleep last night.....what was I saying...oh yeah........another one for the History books!

What's that-like 8 historical acheivements in 2 weeks!