Wrong Branch In Elizabeth Warren's Family Tree

Ooops - a genealogist discovers that not only is Ms. Warren probably not descended from a Cherokee, she is descended from a man who helped round up the Cherokee. I guess that is why she skips the Harvard powwow.

Scott Brown is upping the ante by calling on Ms. Warren to release the relevant application records:

“Serious questions have been raised about the legitimacy of Elizabeth Warren's claims to Native American ancestry and whether it was appropriate for her to assume minority status as a college professor,” Brown said in a statement. “Her changing stories, contradictions and refusal to answer legitimate questions have cast doubt on her credibility and called into question the diversity practices at Harvard.”

Brown added that to clear up any confusion Warren should “authorize the release of her law school applications and all personnel files from the various universities where she has taught.”

A few weeks back I would have guessed this to be a dead end; Ms. Warren was listed in the law school directory as a minority and my guess would have been that prospective employess would be dscreet enough to rely on that rather than other documentation.

However, if the documentation were helpful to Ms. Warren's cause one might have expected her to have released it by now, so Scott Brown may come up aces here.

Comments

[mojo]

"HAW HAW HAW!"
-- The Searchers

[NK]

TomM-- releasing the personnel records?

"THAT"LL BE THE DAY."
-- The Searchers (Ethan Edwards-- played by the DUKE)

[lyle]

I expect her to go full Costanza any day now.

[NK]

Warren in full Costanza?--THAT would be worth pay-per-view admission.

[Slowjoe]

So she DOES have native american blood. It's just on her hands, not in her bloodstream.

[jimmyk]

Sounds like great-great-great grandpa might have exercised a bit of what today might be called power asymmetry in his relationship with his spouse-to-be. Or maybe it was Stockholm syndrome? Assuming she was actually Cherokee.

[Janet]

So she DOES have native american blood. It's just on her hands, not in her bloodstream.

Oh my goodness...hahahahaahahaaa!! Too funny!

[AliceH]

It's funny, because just a couple weeks ago, I would have been totally sympathetic to a Warren defense of "the connection to me now is facile -- that was an ancestor of mine 5 generations back - 1/32nd of my DNA".

[Gus]

Next up!! Let's check OBAMA'S LORE.

HOOSIER DADDY.

[BB Key]

Gus, Is that why he is so good at basketball ?

[Gus]

Good enough to sit on the bench at a private high school. He sucks at that too.

[daddy]

So Liz's great great great Grand Pa-Paw had to destroy the Cherokee's in order to save them?

[Janet]

Aunt Bee is aghast. :0

[steve]

Funny, she gets tagged as a phony... not for pretending to be part of the 99% while pulling down big bucks for part time work, but for goosing her resume over a decade ago.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't have a big issue with someone who tweaked their resume to make themselves more appealing... but since she wasn't nailed for her real phoniness, I guess I'll settle for her getting the Al Capone treatment.

[daddy]

After reading TM's links, if I understand correctly, we now know that Lizzy's listings for a decade in the Directories only listed her as "a Minority", not Native American. That means that the only way HLS could claim her as "Native American" was if Lizzy either wrote that on some piece of paper for HLS, or specifically told HLS she was a Native American. Otherwise, HLS would have no idea she was Native American, since she's got chubby cheeks.

If that's the case, then that is why we will never see Lizzy's Harvard applications as requested by Scott Brown.

[Clarice]

Bingo, daddy.

[daddy]

Bury My Harvard Wounded CV?

[Dave (in MA)]

Maybe she's not 1/32nd woo-woo Indian; it could be she's 1/32nd help-you-reset-your-BIOS Indian and the story got muddled over the years.

[daddy]

Bury my Wounded CV at Harvard?

Black Elk doesn't Speak?

There's gotta' be a joke in there somewhere.

BTW,

Marcia Clark on Dennis Miller's show just said that Homicide Detectives have the best sense of humor on the planet.

[jimmyk]

After reading TM's links, if I understand correctly, we now know that Lizzy's listings for a decade in the Directories only listed her as "a Minority", not Native American.

Are women not counted as "minorities" by whoever decides these things? I can't keep it straight, since it has nothing to do with anything real. I know Jews aren't considered minorities.

[Dave (in MA)]

I think Liz is being Swift Canoed by all you Identity Conservatives, or something.

[NK]

managed Bankruptcies for Chrysler and GM was the right way to go. Instead, under 'Bam's corrupt 'Auto Czar' (and securities fraud consent degree signer), GM and Chrysler went through MISmanaged bankruptcies, with senior bond holders of Chrysler being strongarmed, and the UAW members getting preferential treatment so that Chryler and GM are permanent basketcases due to lack of competitiveness vis a vis foreign car badge US operations that are nonunion-- VW, BMW, Merc-Benz, Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, Nissan etc etc. GM and Chrysler are less competitve than the US operations of foreign manufacturers, and they will be bankrupt again, sooner rather than later-- thanks to 'Bam. PS: US Taxpayers are also on the hook for Billions of GM subsidies, that will never be paid back. VAPORIZED!

[MarkO]

I wonder if my great-gradfather, the Indian Agent, knew of her great-great-great grandfather? Conventions and stuff?

[Sue]

Swift Canoed. OMG. You guys are cracking me up. Bury My Harvard Wounded CV. ::laughing so hard I'm crying:: And the best part? She's a liberal. She will hate ridicule most of all.

[RichatUF]

The campaign can't end soon enough.

To Do List:

1. Cancel cable
2. Find girlfriend
3. Work overtime

[centralcal]

That phrase "swift canoed" has been around the internet for awhile now, and it never ceases to make me laugh. Oh, and Hollyweird is coming to Fauxcahontas's aid, per Free Beacon:

Hollywood actors Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and John Krasinski are hosting a fundraiser for Democratic Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren on the rooftop of Bad Robot Productions—a production company owned by producer J.J. Abrams—in Santa Monica, CA May 21.

[NK]

CC-- if the RNC has any sense of humor, they will hire Hollywood Indian extras and erect a teepee in front of the Abrams shop the day of the fundraiser to highlight the crimes Fauxcohantas' ancestors committed against the Cherokee. Shame Marlon Brandon has left the living, he was always a good spokesman for Indian greivances -- the RNC could have trotted him out to give a speech.

[Dave (in MA)]

cc, really?

I can only find 3 references to it that are politics-related, and none of them have to do with recent events.

Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and John Krasinski are hosting a fundraiser

No Arec Bardwin?

[Frau Ahnen]

Up-twinkles!
Liz will next find out that those high cheekbones came from a Viking berserker.

As my sainted West TX mother used to say about genealogy,"Don't ask. You might not like what you find."

[Xbradtc.wordpress.com]

Look, someone passed Warren a feather at an OWS rally. What more does it take to convince you wingnuts she's AUTHENTIC?!

[Thomas Collins]

I wonder whether the Brown team figures (i) this story hurts her but not badly enough that the Dems will dump her, or (ii) even if she is forced from the race, there is not enough time for another formidable candidate to emerge. In any event, Brown's polling folks must be telling him Warren's American Indian hustle is not going over well (when it's not going over in The Commonwealth of the PC, one knows it's a true loser).

[Jane]

If that's the case, then that is why we will never see Lizzy's Harvard applications as requested by Scott Brown.

Forget Harvard, I want to see her college applications.

Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and John Krasinski are hosting a fundraiser

Damon and Affleck are from MA. Never heard of the other guy.

[Frau Zahlungsunfähigkeit]

Authentic?IMHO her pronouncements on bankruptcy are carptacular, too.

[Porchlight]

Liz will next find out that those high cheekbones came from a Viking berserker.

Funny you should mention it; I think Legal Insurrection linked a piece suggesting that O.C. Sarah Smith might actually have been Swedish.

What does O.C. stand for? Oklahoma Cherokee?

[centralcal]

Dave - I first read it in a Mark Steyn piece (I think?) and also saw it used on Twitter. If I have time I will try to find the Steyn piece, if indeed it WAS him :)

[centralcal]

Hhmm - can't find it in any of Steyn's pieces on Crockajawea, but I swear Dave, I saw it and laughed out loud at the time.

Maybe it was the MOTUS blog.

[lyle]

Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and John Krasinski are hosting a fundraiser

Who are these guy? Are they the representatives from the Bureau of Indian Affairs?

[lyle]

And more importantly, will they be serving top shelf firewater or the cheap stuff?

[Clarice]

I must be really evil because I love this story more every day. (Janet, pray for my soul like crazy, babes.)

[Rob Crawford]

What does O.C. stand for? Oklahoma Cherokee?

I thought it stood for "Orange County" and that her ancestor was a very, very early biker.

[Dave (in MA)]

In my wildest dreams I never thought the MA D's would figure out a way to find a more tone-deaf candidate than Marcia Coakley, but they've managed to pull it off.

[Dave (in MA)]

There's been this meme going around - should Romney appear on SNL?

He could go on with Warren and Brown and they could revive the old Tarzan, Tonto and Frankenstein skit.

[lyle]

I think Mitt should go on SNL and reprise Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.

[Frau Zahlungsunfähigkeit]

Yes, Porch, I read a Swede was stranded in Warren's family tree.

Clarice, Jane has the right idea. The applications *must* be hauled out that show that Liz rode her minority mule to death on her "Race to the Top." (h/t Arne Duncan)

[Ignatz]

--The campaign can't end soon enough.

To Do List:

1. Cancel cable
2. Find girlfriend
3. Work overtime--

Rich,
#1 will undoubtedly help with #2, but I'm not sure #2 and #3 are fully compatible unless #4 on the list is ticking your girlfriend off. :)

[Jim Ryan]

Another Steynism: the terrorist is now "pushing up daisy-cutter bits."

[Jane]

TC,

I actually spoke to Brown about it last Friday. He said it was hurting her - and I don't think it was conjecture.

[rse]

That cart will be the US economy if Race to the Top and Common Core go into full effect.

The donkey is the American taxpayer expected to foot the bill for admins who know this is bogus but get paid well to push.

I will get back to writing tomorrow. Two busy days of extensive notetaking in meetings where the perpetrators laid it all out. Then I came home to track down the damning real goals for the practices they insist on.

Then I felt sick at the thought of so much vindictive and well-paid mediocrity determined to destroy what they cannot themselves become.

[Lesley]

OT gossip re: John Travolta

Many years ago (late '80's), my husband and I were staying at the Plaza Athenee or the George V, can't remember which. Our driver was chuckling over a story told to him by one of the hotel staff about a recent incident at the hotel when a staff/panic button was pushed beside a bed in one of the suites. When the staff rushed in to ascertain the emergency, they discovered John Travolta in a bed with another man, both naked. Apparently, in some sort of exuberant "gymnastical" exercise, this button was accidentally pushed. That was the hot gossip amongst the hotel staff that summer.

That story was right up there with the huge conflagration started in one of the suites because some Arabic guests decided to cook their own food over an open bonfire on the floor.

[Janet]

I love this story more every day.

Me too, Clarice, me too.

[Captain Hate]

In my wildest dreams I never thought the MA D's would figure out a way to find a more tone-deaf candidate than Marcia Coakley, but they've managed to pull it off.

It's pretty bad when Lurch is your more likeable candidate.

[Clarice]

It's the hand of providence..not the R I one.

[Dave (in MA)]

John Travolta in a bed with another man, both naked. Apparently, in some sort of exuberant "gymnastical" exercise, this button was accidentally pushed.

It probably looked something like this.

[Dave (in MA)]

And then this.

[BeeKaay]

A leftwingwacko LYING? That NEVAH happens! :)

/sarc

(is one /sarc tag enough for this statement?)

[Tonto]

re: John Travolta

My apartment was used for a location (the place the girl John Travolta liked moved into in Manhattan) in Saturday Night Fever. Travolta came over before the shoot and was incredibly nice (he was a kid!). All my gay friends assured me was utterly, totally gay. But they said that about a lot of people.

[NK]

well... it appears the friends' GAYDAR worked back in the day.

[Extraneus]

I know Jews aren't considered minorities.

That's because they weren't "under-served," Jimmy. That's the test.

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[Gus]

I think the term for John Travolta is ...................

bi-curious.

[Extraneus]

Ooops, I forgot to asterisk Pawpaw in there. He's the high-cheekboned great-grandfather of the militia guy.

[Danube of Thought]

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[Danube of Thought]

I was about to bring up the Travolta gerbil story, but then I remembered that was Richard Gere.

[Jane]

It's pretty bad when Lurch is your more likeable candidate.

Bite your tongue.

[Porchlight]

Hi Lesley! That's quite a story.

[Bruce]

re: John Travolta

All my gay friends assured me was utterly, totally gay. But they said that about a lot of people.

I think that there has been a lot of noise about this over the years. Know someone who drove a limo at one point in time, and when picking him up, they swear they saw him kissing a guy as he was getting off his private plane.

[maryrose]

Janet and Clarice:
I also love this Warren story and I have to admit if she is the best the Dems can come up with we will definitely take back the Senate in November. Brown just needs to sit back and watch her candidacy implode. I betcha they produce a new candidate within the month.I love the swiftcanoe reference and at this point believe Lugar is toast.

[Jane]

Maryrose,

Warren has an opponent in the primary. She used to have about 10 and they are all kicking themselves about now for getting out.

[daddy]

I say lets give her a couple shots of Firewater and see if she goes berserk. That'll tell us if she's Injun or not.

[Clarice]

Anything on the Wisconsin recall votes?

[henry]

Clarice, polls close in 20 mins. I put a link to voting problems on the "In Other News" thread.

[maryrose]

Jane: Thanks I didn't know that. Whoever the dem candidate is Scott Brown has got to be feeling pretty good right about now. Continue to bend his ear and keep him on the right track.

[daddy]

HLS: "Ms Warren, Harvard is very strict in our hiring policies. Harvard Law does not hire Professors who are not graduates of at least the top 10 Law Schools in the country. Frankly I'm surprised that we're even looking at your resume' since you are a Graduate of Rutgers, ranked 82nd. "

Liz: "I'm possibly 1/32nd Native American."

HLS: "You're hired! Would you like Tenure?"

[Sara]

2nd masseuse suit filed against Travolta

[Jane]

I think the Travolta family has been thru enough. At least Mrs. Travolta.

[Sara]

Didn't the Travoltas have a new baby last year?

[jorod]

Are you sure it wasn't Joe Biden in the bed?

[Frau Zahlungsunfähigkeit]

daddy, the berserkers were under the influence of something stronger than fire water.

[Threadkiller]

Did Larry Sinclair report this John Trevolting gossip?

[Carol Herman]

Well, in war, and in politics, you have to concur the high ground. Scott Brown's owned this! Even though the social conservatives in the republican party can't stand him; Scott Brown is actually well liked! The "Kennedy chair" was molded to fit the behind of a glamorous.

The democrats had to run somebody. But why is there this belief that harvahd hoi poloi have an advantage? Kennedy's advantage was his looks.

And, the romance of Camalot. All gone now.

While there are 50 states. And, each one gets two senators. "Politics makes for strange bedfellows." While republicans would be much further ahead ... if in at least 26 states they weren't viewed as religious zealots.

And, Mitt Romney isn't an answer! The war hero, John McCain, already lost that battle for ya.

While Karl Rove is probably sitting at home, now, wondering how the Bush Family can bring Jeb to the front in 2016. It's like "married for life." In a bad marriage.

[William Demot]

I thought this was a non story until I read this post. It's turning into a GREAT story. If she's wrong about her heritage, then goodbye political career forever.

It's funny that she is 31/32 white and yet she does not identify herself as white.

Even (self-identified Italian-American) Artie Lange of the Howard Stern Show is more Native American than Warren (and he has a genetic test to prove it)LOL.

[RichatUF]

Ignatz-

#3 is to spoil #2. Problem is that I'm in the middle of a 12/12 shift (should end by the weekend).