Let's Stress On Zimmerman

A differently redacted version of the Sanford PD police report is out. George Zimmerman passed the Voice Stress test with "No Deception Indicated".  Deep in the report are the questions and Yes/No answers:

Well, I guess the walls aren't green in the Sanford PD.  And Zimmerman has never exceeeded the speed linit?  Somebody pull his traffic record and maybe we can add a False Statements charge to the Murder Two.

A key question is "Did you confront the guy you shot?".  Obviously, in one sense Zimmerman did, since there was obviously a confrontation.  Zimmerman took the question as "Did you initiate the confrontation...", which is a fair interpretation of what the interviewer actually meant.  Still, with this short a script, why not ask clear questions?

And Zimmerman passed on "Were you in fear of your life...", which will be helpful for the defense.

Eventually lead investigator [Sorry, former lead investigator] Serino recommends a manslaughter charge.

ILLOGIC: This report provides the theme followed by the eventual arrest warrant - if Zimmerman had stayed in his car or spoken politely to Martin the whole incident could have been avoided. I still don't see how Zimmerman's lack of perfect manners justifies Martin's violent assault, but the Florida prosecutors will have an opportunity to expand on that concept.

The report also shows absurdist logic when it confronts the Fear Factor. Zimmerman had explained that when Martin walked up to and circled his car, Zimmerman had rolled up the window rather than identify himself as a neighborhood watcher because he was afraid of Martin.  Silly George!  The report goes on to explain that upon subsequent investigation, Martin and Zimmerman were of comparable size and neither had martial arts training, so this was not a bad match-up for George and his lapse of neighborly manners was unwarranted. Unfortunately, the report does not explain how Zimmerman was supposed to assess Martin's martial arts background while sitting in his car in the rain.

Eventually Martin runs off so Zimmerman gets out of his car to see where he went.  The Sleuths of Sanford jump on this contradiction! How could a man who was afraid of a guy who was closing to within a few feet suddenly master his fear when the same scary guy is no longer visible?

Fortunately, the defense will have plenty of time to come up with an answer to that. (Hmm - did the investigators notice a can of spinach lying near the curb?)

VOICE STRESS ANALYSIS: OK, maybe the walls are green and Zimmerman has exceeded the speed limit (my emphasis):

The simple act of being accused of a crime is very likely to result in a stress response on the part of the suspect. Hence Backster (1963) developed a questioning protocol for use with the polygraph known as the Control Question Test (CQT). Through research a variant of the CQT has evolved, known as the Directed Lie Test (DLT) (Horiwitz, 1997). The premise of both protocols is to have a set of questions that would be likely to elicit stress responses in innocent suspects more than in guilty ones.

The difference between the two sets of questions is, the DLT questions are ones which explicitly tell the participant give a deceptive response. The CQT is a set of questions known as the Control Questions, also referred to as probable lie questions. These are questions that are designed in such a way that no one can say “no” without lying (i.e. Before today have you ever taken something that did not belong to you?). It is then the task of the polygraph examiner to get the suspect to say “no” they have never done that.

It is then proposed that an innocent person will be more stressed about those questions (DLT/CQT) and less about the question regarding the crime; thereby accommodating for the stress of an innocent person being accused.

Comments

[Gus]

If. If. if??? If WeeWeeDouchebagDaveyboy had balls, he'd be a man.

[woo woo]

So wait, was Scalia in Sanford?

There has to be a summer camp for slow kids.

[cboldt]

In an unexpected twist of the usual lot line, Bluto took Popeye's spinach.

Zimmerman can fool the stress tester, but he's no match for Corey's team of crack investigators.

[cboldt]

Serino is being transferred out of SPD investigative unit.

The lead investigator in the Trayvon Martin case is being transferred out of the investigative unit at the Sanford Police Department, WFTV learned on Tuesday.

Should have used the waterboard. I understand that works on reluctant suspects.

[Mel]

the question about speed limit was a "C" question which stands for "control". This was most certainly a question he was told to answer "no" to as a control test.

There are "C" Control questions, "R" Relevant questions, and "IR" Irrelevant questions.

[Clarice]

What are the initials for Boni Meroni? Interesting coincidence, No?

[cboldt]

George Zimmerman didn't recognize a police photo of Trayvon Martin just hours after he fatally shot the teenager, even though he said he was on top of Martin when witnesses came.

Hahahah. Ha. Hahah.

Damn. Well, it was dark, and when Zimmerman was sitting on Martin, Martin was face down. Maybe the police showed the face side instead of the backside, hence the difficulty with ID.

Initial press focus is on Serino's novel legal theories, that Zimmerman is culpable because he could have broken the chain of events; or because he wasn't beat-up enough. That ground has been plowed through about eleven growing seasons already.

[cboldt]

The walls are green. Zimmerman is a liar. If he can't tell the truth about the color of the room he's in, why should anybody believe anything he says?

[Stephanie]

@PressSec @ZekeJMiller It's amazing how you can stand there and say such a thing. The castle is crumbling, eh royal scribe?

Full on debate about how Obama didn't get booed at the Boston game. Carney, of course, is reprising Bagdad Bob.

LUN

[cboldt]

Oh, he got booed. Youk is a hero in Beantown.

I think Carney is posting here under various aliases.

Obama - Booooooo

[daddy]

Who cares about the Law? They don't in Racine.

"A Wisconsin Government Accountability Board official admits that poll workers in Racine did not follow the law when they allowed voters who registered on election day to obtain and cast ballots without signing the supplemental poll list...However, that same official now asserts that the discovery that thousands of individuals may have been mistakenly given ballots in the June 5th recall election should not disqualify their votes."

[cboldt]

The lead Sanford police investigator in the Trayvon Martin shooting was transferred Tuesday from days to the night shift, the department confirmed.

Chris Serino is now a patrol officer, no longer assigned to major crimes, but the department would not say when that change came about.

Ahhh, a promotion!

[Gus]

Daddy, when the revolution comes, I'll be glad I'm armed. The LEFT follows no rules. I won't either.

[cboldt]

I'm thinking Serino was busted for sharing his work product with Matt Gutman.

[AliceH]

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[Jim Eagle]

Now here is a little twist on the "working press" revolving door.

Gregg Burke of Fox News appointed Senior Media Advisor to the Vatican

The only media savvy Bishop I know of is Dolan and I wouldn't be surprised he is pulling levers here. Burke is from St. Louis as is Dolan. With all the recent leaks on the Pope from his personal staff, the pedophile issue still alive, religious freedom, et. al. someone has decided they need help. This is really different to have an American reporter in such a high position in the Vatican communications hierarchy.

[daddy]

During catch-up I bumped into this story at Slate:

UVA Reinstates Ousted President
The school's board voted unanimously Tuesday to reverse its earlier decision to force Teresa Sullivan out.

I haven't been following the particulars of this story, but this seems unexpected, so if anyone has a Cliff's Notes synopsis of what's really going on, please do post about it.

[Jim Eagle]

Mean't to add that Burke is Opus Dei and just took Italian citizenship. Another guy who packed it in.

[MarkO]

daddy, I put something funny for you on the last thread.

[MarkO]

Little Yalie Ben-Dana pretending to call us out? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[jimmyk]

soon after pot is legalized, the whole dang family will demand the same

One sentence summary: University trustees are spineless, craven, and afraid of their own shadows.

Seriously, it's all been very hush-hush as far as I'm aware, but the speculation was that this had to do with the Mann hiring, which she supported. When the winds were blowing one direction, she had to go, but when they blew back....

[jimmyk]

Oops, somehow the right quote didn't get into my clipboard. That was supposed to be:

if anyone has a Cliff's Notes synopsis of what's really going on, please do post about it.

[Another Bob]

JiB: "Burke is Opus Dei and just took Italian citizenship. Another guy who packed it in."

Clarify plz? (Burke is a friend of a friend, and 'packed it in' doesn't sound like something he'd do.)

BTW, agree the Vatican is getting crushed and needs more media hardball.

[Another Bob]

Ah, hate it when I do that...

Disregard JiB - I read "Burke" and thought Ray Burke not Greg Burke...

Nevermind. (I'll trot back, embarrassed, to my corner now.)

[Danube of Thought]

"This was most certainly a question he was told to answer 'no' to as a control test."

By whom?

[dublindave]

"Oh, he got booed. Youk is a hero in Beantown."

He got booed?Really?Cuz I heard a chorus of "yooooouk" from the crowd.

Look,the President isn't afraid to get in an opposing teams face when it comes to sports.That was a 'kiss my ass' moment from Obama and the crowd showed him respect for being able to crawl down to their level of sports smack talk.

The President is a cool mofo!

Juxtopose that with Romney's god-awful cringe-inducing pandering over the wolverines,the kind of soft lilly-livered pandering that has almost become symbolic of him and his campaign.A man without a spine or a belief.

I love that "the one" stood up and talked smack to several thousand people, demonstrating the kind of balls and screw you attitude it took to kill Osama bin laden and the entire al qaueda leadership...........something Multiple Mitt claimed he wouldn't do.

Where's me whiskey!!!!!!

[peter]

Re: the U.Va. brew ha ha ( and believe me, having attended U. Va. there is always plenty of brew there)
I have seen references on the internet (Breitbart is one place, Legal Insurrection is another) implying, but not actually stating that Kathleen Sullivan has some academic issues going back about twenty years ago and that they are linked to, of all people, Fauxcahontas herself, Elizabeth Warren, who is apparently, an old friend. Then there are stories that the business minded faction of the board of rectors wanted to instate internet teaching, and perform some cost-cutting measures which would probably mean laying off of some faculty, and that Sullivan objected. But these are two totally disparate theories, and there possibly could be no truth to either one.

[Rick Ballard]

DoT,

TM provides the answer in a revision and extension of the post.

[daddy]

MarkO,

Thank you for that!

Now I will never ever have to watch an episode of any Sorkin production ever, because I just watched every one. Ha!

That was very well done by whoever did it.

[sailor]

AliceH, Glad you had a nice experience with Nationwide. USAA is the way to go if you have served in the armed forces. They are great!

[Porchlight]

New poll from We Ask America has Romney up 5 in VA:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/virginia-poll-romney-48-obama-43_647862.html

WAA had Walker up 12 in their last poll before the recall, so figure Romney's probably tied or slightly ahead.

Obama has led most VA polls to date. But - the last prior VA poll was done 3 weeks ago, so it's definitely possible that there has been some movement toward Romney.

Good news even if it's an outlier.

[Neo]

Still no definitive word of the status of James Fallows' "5 Signs of a Radical Change in U.S. Politics" also known as Conquest, War, Famine, Death and Barack Obama (AKA the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and Wheelwright).

[sailor]

Well, I think UVa. reinstating the president is a bad idea--giving in to the students and faculty who simply want status quo--which cannot continue for a very long time, I think.

[Jim Eagle]

Anyone having probs posting photos using HTML code at JOM?

[rse]

daddy-the accreditation agency, SACS, sent a letter yesterday stating they thought the Board of Visitors actions raised issues under their accreditation standards.

Those of you reading my last 2 posts know I have said the accreditors are the real political sovereigns in American education. Disobey their will and they have the federal student loan program to threaten you with.

I wrote a piece early this morning for publication somewhere else explaining what is really going on. It appears Arne has gone out of his way to augment the accreditors powers and began the hard push just after the wipeout midterm elections.

I don't think anyone reading what I had to say will see today's events as anything other than legalized blackmail similar to what school board members have confirmed to me since I wrote Friday's post.

This also relates to the international document I got bumped off of while I was reading it that I described a few weeks ago.

Accreditation is a primary international enforcement mechanism for radically reshaping the West. As I explained this morning on Phi Beta Cons Sullivan has a degree or has acted as an administrator at places that are heavily involved with using the behavioral sciences to use the classroom to change American children affectively. To ultimately reshape this nation.

A sociology PhD from Chicago in the early 1970s makes her deeply steeped in George Herbert Mead's view of education as a cultural weapon.

Nice timing at UVa for me I suppose. Pedagogy now is largely a reflection of sociology and anthropology theories on how to change people and the prevailing beliefs, practices, and feelings in a society.

I have no doubt from what I saw of her background at Rosenberg's Discriminations blog that Sullivan has been a dedicated social change agent for many years.

And in Obama's America that makes her an untouchable administrator.

[Sara]

I love that "the one" stood up and talked smack to several thousand people

Mama don't let your sons grow up to be smack talkers, the language of wusses and bullies.

Dudu, in case you missed it, it was the Navy Seals who got Osama bin Laden and they don't need to smack talk to several thousand to convince themselves of their manhood.

[narciso]

The quarterly Minitrue newsblurb, has Serino's misgivings, but not the fact that Zimmerman passed the test.

[Sara]

I love that "the one" stood up and talked smack to several thousand people, demonstrating the kind of balls and screw you attitude it took to kill Osama bin laden and the entire al qaueda leadership...........something Multiple Mitt claimed he wouldn't do.

The man throws like a girl, walks like a girl, rides a bike like a girl, whines like a child, and is reduced to having dudu give him kudoes. Guess it takes one to know one.

[narciso]

Cahill points out somethings I noticed as well;

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/time_and_again_maraniss_conceals_obamas_socialist_roots.html

[Ignatz]

--Anyone having probs posting photos using HTML code at JOM?--

Nope.

[Captain Hate]

Well, I think UVa. reinstating the president is a bad idea--giving in to the students and faculty who simply want status quo--which cannot continue for a very long time, I think.

I agree with everything except that students care one way or another about who the president is; unless they're dipsticks like Sandra Fluke. Now that the rectors have shown they can be rolled, it just makes their next big decision more difficult.

[Sara]

--Anyone having probs posting photos using HTML code at JOM?--

NO.

[henry]

Daddy, the only local news to cover the recount today (NBC) talked about the single digit change in votes but nothing else. Where there is smokescreen there is fire. The Racine Sheriff's investigation into vote fraud, plus the illegal lack of voter signatures spells big trouble for the Dems, unions, and Voces de la Frontera. The GAB can't cover this one up.

[NK]

MelR-- I read your earlier Link to Corporate China buying Dollars. I don't know if that article directly addresses my comments about the Fed debased Dollar and commodity prices. I admit not being any kind of expert on FOREX trades, but that article may be to a degree consistent with my comments because it shows China Cent Bank and Corporate push back against the Fed using inflation to reduce external US debt load. But that's kind of a tangent. More pertinent to what I've been saying about the Fed Dollar debasing in order to reduce the 'cost' of the US Nat'l Debt are today's remarks from Dallas Fed pres Fisher-Fed monetary policy is useless to increase growth - the way out of economic malaise is to STOP borrowing. Fisher trashes dems and repubs, but he's also clearly said across the board tax increases to pre-2003 leves would be a disaster, so Fisher's statement today means STOP SPENDING. I agree with that entirely:http://www.nasdaq.com/article/feds-fisher-says-twist-plan-having-minor-effect-20120626-01310

[NK]

Henry-- Racine recount litigation-- as Warren Zevon said "bring lawyers, guns and money...the stuff has hit the fan"

[Extraneus]

The President is a cool mofo!

Heh. I think he's a dork, but I'm not surprised that his metrosexual coolness would inspire his fans. Hopefully he displays it during the inauguration. The last thing we need are tears from him or his wife at such a solemn moment.

[Sara]

I was always taught to keep my feet off the furniture, especially when in someone else's house.

The man has zero class. And he's a lazy POS too.

[NK]

I think DD found the whiskey well before his 5:01. At any rate, you don't have to be a drunken Lefty to be delusional-- Tribe on MNBC says his former student Roberts votes and writes to uphold the Mandate. If Tribe is wrong -- and I think he is-- Step 2 is for Tribe to go back to MSNBC and apologize for Roberts being an outlaw and an outragous political CJ. Tribe is just DD without the booze.

[NK]

"The man has zero class. And he's a lazy POS too."

Zero class-- absolutely. POS? To me he is more of a punk. But I have a high threshold before I classify a man as a POS.

[Ignatz]

--I was always taught to keep my feet off the furniture, especially when in someone else's house.--

That's because you had parents to teach you right from wrong, Sara.
With Barry it was just a boy and his dog.
And then it was just a boy.

[NK]

Henry-- don't give the bastards in Racine a break. Make the Sheriff investigate thoroughly and refer election fraud charges to the County Attorney. The bastards can't commit fraud in November from jail.

[NK]

Ig@6:35-- heh.

[Frau Eichhoernchen]

Good pictures, all. I'm not having problems either.

Lonely? Check out e-Squirrel for companionship.

[NK]

On Topic-- has there been any information in the disclosure materials that incriminates GZ or otherwise discredits his self-defense claim? I haven't seen any--in fact the opposite is true, the disclosure forensics and stress test corroborate his self-defense story. Sure as hell looks like Corey needs the Bond revocation to have some kind of win before the resonable doubt starts adding up at trial and GZ is acquitted. But I have an open mind -- if any of the Lefty trolls want to show some disclosure evidence rebutting self-defense.

[Extraneus]

.

[Sara]

if any of the Lefty trolls want to show some disclosure evidence rebutting self-defense.

NK: But, but, Shellie fudged about the PayPal account so GZ is guilty on all counts, doncha know?

[narciso]

The Talk Left people, are in a little of a paranoid 'Constitutional in Exile' jag, re the Lane piece,

[Sara]

With Barry it was just a boy and his dog.
And then it was just a boy.

ROFL.

[daddy]

Henry,

Just listened to this informative 9 minute interview from one of your local Talk guys interviewing Bryan Fraley of the Maciver Institute about the latest problems with the Racine Recount. It's worth a listen, especially toward the end.

I personally can't swear that it is fraud, but if one wanted to conduct a fraudulent election to get your guy in office, it's a beautiful mechanism for it:

1) Get specific Partisans to sign the Recall Petition and to be the guys getting other folks to sign the Recall Petition, so that a recall election is held.

2) Get those same Partisans to be the guys in the Polling Office checking the incoming voters to ensure they are legal to vote.

3) Have those same Partisans give Ballots to thousands of incoming voters without abiding, with the Wisconsin Election Laws per the GAB which demand specific signatures, in order that the voters legitimacy to vote can be accurately checked.

4) Have the GAB withhold the actual ballots from inspection so investigators are currently denied the opportunity to investigate the eligibility of the voters that did not comply with the mandated Election Signature Law.

5) Then have the GAB announce that regardless of the apparent thousands of examples of violation of the Law, even before the initial recount has been concluded or any investigations done, that the illegal votes in question will be counted, allowing the Democrat to win by 800 votes.

Well done Government Accountability Board!

[Ignatz]

Geez Frau, I've been trying to keep pictures of myself off the web. Thanks a lot.

[Frau Eichhoernchen]

Too good, Ext.
Iggy started it. It seems neither of us needs Arizona watermelon tea and Skittles to make us sap happy.

[narciso]

Maybe it's just my impression;

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/6/26/163716/370

[narciso]

When will they stop kicking the football, and do their job;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/26/gop-senators-press-holder-for-special-prosecutor-into-potential-national/

[pagar]

"The bastards can't commit fraud in November from jail."

My guess is the Obama regime intends to have every legitimate voter in jail by Nov.

"Obama prepping thousands of lawyers for election"

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_LAWYERING_UP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-06-26-12-58-13

[narciso]

So, the obvious question comes to mind;

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2012/06/so-why-was-the-zimmerman-police-chief-fired.html

[henry]

Daddy, thanks for the link!

[Frau Eichhoernchen]

OT but bothering me. Why does our Preezy get a pass on not upholding his oath of office? Did he not swear to do so on Abraham Lincoln's Bible?
This from Nov. 1999:

ARTICLE 1

In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice,..."

I want Obama called on his dereliction of duty.

[Ignatz]

From the man is incapable of learning department;
Spain considers sweeping tax increases in order to please the EU.

In related news, thousands of Japanese pilots have pledged to fly their planes into American warships in order to please the Emperor.

[NK]

Ig-- that link is the US future when the Bond vigilantes get through with Spain, Italy and France. US Deficit is about 9% of GDP total public debt EXCEEDs GDP-- there is no more short term and medium term deficit plans, no glide path to a balanced budget, that oportunity went down the drain 17 years ago when Clinton demagogued Medicare reform. Now, there is only cutting spending and increasing growth. That requires us to do the OPPOSITE of Obamanomics.

[Ragspierre]

According to what I've managed to find, Voice Stress Testing is as reliable as a coin toss.

Even the maker of the machines used (I gather) has had to admit in court documents they don't work for the purpose of detecting lies.

No court I know of admits their results.

http://faculty.law.lsu.edu/ccorcos/researchmethodscoursematerials/voicestressanalysisstory.htm

[Jane]

Why does our Preezy get a pass on not upholding his oath of office?

Didn't you know Frau? He's black. He gets a pass on everything!!!!

[Porchlight]

Question for Wisconsin folks:

Let's say the fraud can't be overcome and Wanggaard has to concede. What does it mean for November? Will there be a bigger grassroots effort to counter it?

[henry]

Porchlight, the fury would stoke up immediately in that case. Right now people want to enjoy the summer, the local MSM is trying to keep a lid on things to damp enthusiasm. Right now the Tea Party can get the message out to a majority of WI voters, and voter ID on hold is a sore point. Either way this gets pushed in the fall -- which is good for Romney and whomever wins the senate primary.

[Sara]

Why does our Preezy get a pass on not upholding his oath of office?

Because he's so cool????

[Porchlight]

Sounds good to me, henry. I have no problem with a delayed push.

[bgates]

George Zimmerman didn't recognize a police photo of Trayvon Martin just hours after he fatally shot the teenager

Well, no, but they showed him this one

[Ralph L]

USAA is the way to go if you have served in the armed forces
I've been with them since my first car in 1981 (as a retired Navy Junior). The one time I made a claim, in 1998, I never actually spoke with the agent allegedly handling my claim. She never called back for weeks. Finally, I got her supervisor to send me a check after almost 2 months. Stupidly, I'm still with USAA for auto & life ins.

What was odd was that the man they sent to pick up the smashed car was the nephew-in-law of my grandfather's first cousin. I didn't know him from Adam, but I was living in my grandparents' house and share his first and last name.

[Sara]

nephew-in-law of my grandfather's first cousin

Wow, I'm a genealogist and I had to think about that one.

[Sara]

19 Crazy Things That School Children Are Being Arrested For In America

[Porchlight]

George Zimmerman didn't recognize a police photo of Trayvon Martin just hours after he fatally shot the teenager

A "police photo"? Assuming this wasn't a photo of the body, where did the police get this "police photo" of little angel Trayvon?

[cboldt]

The photo of Martin was one taken at the scene. It would have been about as up to date as they come.

I see Matt Gutman accuses Serino of being a leaker. Too bad the leak is not against Florida law, although I don''t imagine it was following department policy. Serino is probably the source of the contention that Wolfinger and Lee had a meeting and over-rode investigator conclusion that the police had probable cause to arrest Zimmerman on February 26th.

[Sara]

I have heard some pretty gruesome stories about the TSA, but this one has to be the worst. I think this would have been my final straw. I'm sure I would have gone ballistic.

TSA dumps Grandpa's cremains all over airport, laughs at distraught relative as he picks bone fragments off the floor.

[Ralph L]

Sara, it sounded a little better than the nephew of my grandfather's cousin's wife, which is what I was aiming for. She was the only one I'd actually known, from the duty visits to a long list of elderly female relatives. Her house is now an H&R Block office.

I found many old letters from the cousin's mother to her sister, my great-grandmother, who lived 5 miles away. She went from Miss Betty Thompson to Mrs. Betty Thompson (there were and are a lot of Thompsons in this area).

[Ralph L]

It would have been about as up to date as they come.
Freshly dead, and really most sincerely dead. But in my limited experience, people and animals look very different when dead.

[Beasts of England]

@Ignatz (and others)

Please enjoy the disastrous syntax and composition.

AP: Murder defendant George Zimmerman could have defused the deadly confrontation with Trayvon Martin if he would have identified himself as a member of neighborhood watch and he passed two lie detector tests when questioned by investigators, according to a report released Tuesday.

Yes, had he identified himself as NW and passed two 'lie detector tests', it could have defused the confrontation. Could have. Et tu, Travanius?

Which is worse, the grammar or the logic? Unreal.

[Beasts of England]

More creative writing from the same reckless AP story. These miscreants have no shame.

A defense-attorney-on-the-street comment: '...I think it will hurt Zimmerman more that he had opportunity to ID himself and disobeyed the advice of the 911 operator and pursued Martin.'

From the AP writer: 'Zimmerman's original bond was a revoked by a judge who ruled he lied about his finances...'

[Sara]

Good post at Talk Left:

George Zimmerman: New Reports, New Injury Video

[wetmore333]

No way the left is going to relinquish a narrative that positions them as the high-minded champions of brutally oppressed minorities. We are witnessing an exercise in collective masturbation.

[cboldt]

Zimmerman skipped a deposition, in a civil case where he was a member of a class. Crump is all over it, and you can bet de la Rionda will be, too.

Zimmerman failed to appear in previous court case, fined $10,000

[Clarice]

In a case he ultimately won. I suspect there's something in the files of that case which excused him from appearing/and or paying the fine

[narciso]

Probably, but Zelaya's mouthpiece, back during the exile period, wouldn't bother to find that out.

[narciso]

I'm not kidding, she'll buy any heardluck story

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/23/75939/zelaya-claims-mercenaries-are.html