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June 06, 2012

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cboldt

It's too early to gloat, the Democrats are voting today.

Clarice

If we can't gloat, can we have a drum circle and feather passing?

James D.

On the front page of the Washington Post this morning, above the fold:

"Walker survives recall - long lines, close vote"

Because we all know that a 53-46 margin is "close" when a Republican wins, but a landslide of historic proportions when a Democrat wins.

Sue

Can I gloat too? Boston Celtics, my 2nd favorite NBA team. Woot! Woot! I love Rajon Rondo. He called the punks out and then smeared their face in it! Back to Boston.

I can't believe I'm rooting for the Celtics. That's like me rooting for the Yankees. Should tell you how much I despise the triplets.

NK

WaPo really said that in a headline? The legacy Media really have become Pravda. The only difference, Pravda readers knew everything in Pravda was BS, WaPo/NYT readers are so deluded they actually believe what they read. It's all good, let them stay deluded until November.

Threadkiller

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/another-boost-for-obamas-gay-accuser/

henry

The drum circle has been preempted by the circular firing squad. Too bad they haven't practiced marksmanship and won't hit anything.

Clarice

Yes, it did, NK..It provided us with our first big laugh of the day.

Actually, I think we should let them stay deluded, let them think victory is surely theirs--wouldn't want them dumping Obama now and upsetting the our race to the winners circle.

Extraneus

Porch, from the earlier thread:

Did you all see that Barrett was slapped in the face last night by a supporter angry that he had conceded too early?
I love that.
hit and run

I think Ed gives a fine, succinct summary:

The unions spent millions of dollars and over a year’s worth of effort to get a temporary one-seat majority in a chamber that will never meet in session. And that’s assuming that their lone win from last night holds up in a recount. Congratulations, Big Labor!

What of all the other races? Unions and Democrats contested ten state Senate races over the past year, one Supreme Court position, and the Governor and Lt. Governor offices. They ended up farther back than when they started. Scott Walker improved his 2010 performance by 125,000 votes, and Barrett lost by a bigger percentage than in 2010. Rebecca Kleefisch trounced her opponent, who hadn’t even been on record as voting until 2008.

"All of this could have been avoided"
--stuff JiB said

narciso

You know, Clarice, I don't think the nomenklatura was foolish enough to believe it's own press, unlike this clique,

NK

Clarice-- the Left/Media will stay deluded between now and November no matter what we do. Any thinking Lefty who suggests a change in course between now and November will be dismissed from the Drum Circle and have the Feather ripped from their hand. It's all good.

Sue

I am seeing headlines where Obama says voters sent Walker a powerful message. I'm trying to decide what Obama thinks that message was?

maryrose

clarice: So true.
Messnbc had Howard Dean on lying about exit polls saying 60% of Wisconsinites support Obama. They Are Desperate and it shows.

pagar

"the Democrats are voting today."

And probably have long lines at the poll.

Threadkiller

Oh joy!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/m-obama_reinvents_sacred_themes_for_2012.html

maryrose

Ext:
Dems can't even control their own wacky supporters. Barrett should file assault charges. Typical sore loser behavior.

Neo

Public employee unions lost big last night, but maybe they should.

I always found it odd that the very same folks who want government to think for everybody else, don’t seem to believe that the government that they work for should think for them. The very same government that enforces the laws, some how isn’t trust worth enough to give their employees a fair shake. Or is it that when it comes to balancing the interests of the public and the public employees, the employees just want more.

Thomas Collins

Think of it this way, Sue. If the Celts prevent the Heat from starting their inevitable run of eight NBA titles, they will just be following the examples of Dirk and the Mavs in 2011.

narciso

So, I'm getting the notion they have no problem with noncitizens voting,


http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/05/2834587/gov-rick-scott-looks-ready-to.html

Thomas Collins

I'm going to speak out for President Obama this morning. I have heard some progs deeming yesterday a victory for the Prez, because those ever reliable exit polls have him ahead in Wisconsin. May Prez Obama have a similar victory on November 6th! May Obama and the Dems go down to defeat in November in the knowledge that they perform better in the exit polls than in the real elections!

See, no gloating from me!

Porchlight

So Walker did 7 points better than the exits. The same exits had Obama beating Romney by 6 points. Ahem.

Captain Hate

So, I'm getting the notion they have no problem with noncitizens voting

After the Corey fiasco, and probably other less high exposure things, Scott needs to get on the right side of *some* issue.

Scientific studies next.  Later, judicial decisions.

Ya know, there are so many names on that paper, most of whom I've never heard of. I can explain myself much better to the exit poller. Real democracy is only going to work right when the exit polls have been shown to more accurately reflect the will of the people.
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Threadkiller

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/06/boehner-spokesman-ny-times-story-about-holder-fast-and-furious-compromise-is-false/

I can't believe the Times would do such a thing.

marlene

cboldt,is there any activity in southern Maine re: next Tuesday's primary? There are lots of signs around here and we've gotten a couple of flyers in the mail,otherwise there doesn't seem to be much information about the candidates.

narciso

This is the Minitrue bulletin carried here;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/05/2834121/wisconsin-holds-recall-more-than.html

narciso

This really illuminates how clueless he really is;


http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/05/2833779/book-ag-holder-considered-quitting.html

cboldt

-- s there any activity in southern Maine re: next Tuesday's primary? --

Just yard signs so far. They pop up like fiddleheads at the road intersections.

AliceH

From the last thread --the Dems want this because they face two recall efforts up north in January over votes "NO" votes on the mining bill (cost 2,000 jobs in the most depressed area of the state)--

Would that be those 3 blue counties i.e. Douglas, Ashland, and Bayfield? I need to know if my sympathy for the failure of the mining bill needs to be downgraded.

narciso

This is why the legacy of Carleton Armstrong is nothing to scoff at;


http://twitchy.com/2012/06/06/kill-scott-walker-angry-libs-flood-twitter-with-death-threats-after-wisconsin-recall-defeat/

Janet

The libs picked the wrong governor to demonize too. Scott Walker is so gracious & articulate & nice looking.
The contrast between the childish lib/union insanity & the adult, calm Walker really stands out.

Captain Hate

From narc's link:

Holder ultimately decided to stay at the urging of presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett, who told him that if he quit, “this will not be good for you and it will not be good for your friend, the president,” according to the book.

Somehow the good of the country never gets considered. Or Brian Terry.

henry

Alice, Iron County.

Janet

Barack-oli??

Is FLOTUS working for the RNC now??...writing material for Red Eye?? Good Lord...

Captain Hate

Markets are up nicely with the Wisconsin results having absolutely nothing to do with the JEF's prospects in November.

Rob Crawford

Barack-oli??

Good old-fashioned nightmare fuel there.

(For clarity, I mean the one on the left.)

Charlie (Colorado)

Somehow the good of the country never gets considered. Or Brian Terry.

"L'etat, c'est moi." -- HIM Barack I

Gus

Libs are seeking first aid for their sore asses this morning?

Hey Pitzer Boy!!! How does it feel?

Melinda Romanoff

CH-

Markets up on Fed leak to Heisenrath on potential for more QE.

Janet

God, Family, & Freedom. - Scott Walker

Porchlight

Hi Gus! Just wondering where you were. Congratulations!

AliceH

Thanks, henry. My sympathy level will remain unchanged.

narciso

But the Malabar Front, was a smashing victory;


http://freebeacon.com/msnbc-still-running-lean-forward-ad-about-wisconsin/

Gus

Alice, I think the far north west corner of Wisconsin is Gooonion.

GMAX

From Politico:


...former Sen. Russ Feingold, who isn’t sold on that theory. “It could have effects on the presidential race, the Senate race, sure,” he said. “There’s always the risk of people being dispirited.”

There’s also the risk — actually the reality — that more than a few Democrats walked away from last night bitter at their own party. Local Democrats are already griping about what they saw as half-hearted support, at best, from Obama and the Democratic National Committee.

Republicans walked away united, motivated and organized like never before.

I am still spiking the football. Ding dong the witch is dead.


NK

CH/MelR-- Mel's got that right. The Fed is going to do more currency debasing as part of its stock market and EuroBank levitating act, so risk assets jump-- like Oil, up 2% see link below. American consumers cry "who will rid me of this meddlesome Fed!" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-06/oil-rises-for-third-day-on-supplies-equities.html

AliceH

Hey - Gus, your union comment made me wonder. In those exits polls about "union household"... did any of them differentiate PUBLIC union from PRIVATE union hhlds? (My recollection was PRIVATE unions were wholeheartedly for the mining contract.)

narciso

I think the next stage, will be they should have picked Falk, Barrett was too wishy washy.

Captain Hate

Alice, a teamster called in Laura Ingraham this morning (I'm listening on this glorious day just to hear the gloating) and said he and his private sector union retiree parents all consistently supported Walker. Admittedly it's only anecdotal...

Gus

Hello Porchlight, I am a little late today. I was out with the Governor last night.
His name?
Scott Walker.

hrtshpdbox

Markets are up nicely with the Wisconsin results having absolutely nothing to do with the JEF's prospects in November.

It's probably true that market gains have nothing to do with yesterday's primary, or what it might bode for Obama. If anything, Wall Street doesn't like Romney's vow to replace Bernanke; they love the easy money Chariman and they hate the prospect of unknown changes. Market mavens are far too short-sighted to think in terms of actual long-term fiscal responsibility; in any case, market movements are essentially inscrutable, and it wouldn't surprise me to see a bear market right into the election regardless of who's leading in the polls.

henry

Heh, Narciso Falk polled worse than Barrett. They will blame Feingold for not running. He's the only active Dem that has won statewide (and even he lost in 2010).

(Nice spike, eh GMax?)

Porchlight

For real Gus? Awesome. He's a mensch.

Captain Hate

Wasn't Barrett their default candidate when nobody else wanted to run? That should've given those lefty tools a heads up on the ultimate results yet they're still acting all butthurt.

As Rick accurately pointed out, yesterday wasn't a good day for Duke and Duke. I hope they still keep believing that the Tea Party is kaput.

AliceH

--Heh, Narciso Falk polled worse than Barrett.--

I heard that in the exit polls, Falk was the favorite by eleventy-eight percent.

Gus

The mining contract said 95% of the jobs would be private union.
But old habits die hard. Wisconsin had hundreds and hundreds of PRIVATE GOOOONION activists here. 28 days in the State makes you eligible to vote btw.
NW corner of Wisconsin is Superior, shipping and a lot of gooonion jobs. They saw the Public unions as their "brothers".
Hahahahahahahaahhaahhhhaha. I wonder if they will be attending their "Brothers" funeral.

NK

hrtshpdbox@10:51. That sounds about right. Until Nov there will be bears and Fed levitating tricks. After Nov, we'll have to see how taxing and spending shake out-- if -- IF-- the Repubs do the right things, cut spending and reform the IRC, and pick a sound Dollar Fed Chairman, then individual investors will go back into the market.

GMAX

There is always the risk of Democrats being disspirited. Russ Feingold.

How absolutely depressing. (not)

Melinda Romanoff

Gus-

No Duluth "spill over"?

GMAX

Gus Indian tribes too, I think.

narciso

Yes, but I'm looking at it through their Matrix, Captain,

narciso

Remember, they rarely let reality get in their way;


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/06/dems_win_small_consolation_prize.php

narciso

They engage in 'head of the pin' arguments like so;


http://thinkingreed.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/can-we-know-if-our-wars-are-just/

centralcal

I am so enjoying a slow morning at the office and watching various humorous video clips - Barrett getting slapped, a lefty bawling that democracy as we know it is dead, Meechelle Obama on Letterman making a very unfunny fool of herself and Barack-oli.

Oh what a wonderful morning.

Extraneus

The market is up on my dog going out a half hour earlier than usual this morning.

centralcal

Rodger - nothing is gonna cross Walker's desk because there will be no legislative work until after November elections.

narciso

Well isn't it obvious, but that is just the first step;


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/06/extend-bush-era-tax-rates-says-larry-summers/

Melinda Romanoff

AJ Strata has a very concise explanation of last night's exit polls. Very well worth the read.

narciso

The template does perpetuate itself, in contradiction to any evidence;


http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/06/05/narrowly-cnn-that-word-does-not-mean-what-you-think-it-means/#comments

DebinNC

Bill Clinton's public toying with the hapless Obama is fascinating, especially when they appear together as they did last night at a Broadway theater. How galling it must be for Obama to have to stand next to BC, the shining star, as he receives the love and respect that ZerO feels should have been his...but will never be again.

Danube of Thought

Minus 14 at Raz today.

Tied with Romney.

narciso

I think they call this stage, rectification,


http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/06/msnbc-contributor-and-former-dem-rep-harold-ford-scott-walker-got-lucky/

Rob Crawford

Dems control the Senate now.

Good for them!

We should ensure that when Democrats control a legislative body, it's one that's out of session and due to be replaced before the next session!

narciso

Apparently no one read the Bridge, well enough either;


http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/05/rev-wright-made-claim-before-about-being-offered-bribe-to-stay-quiet/

DublinDave

It's an amazing victory,you guys deserve your "gloating" time.

Added to the victory of taking away the bargaining rights of public workers was the Republican Senate halting of the 'fairness paycheck act' that would have ensured women are payed the same as men.

So in terms of taking away the rights of workers, yesterday was a majour victory for you Republicans.

Congratulations.

Gus

Ahhhhhh Wee weee DouchebagDave, is your ass sore son? The FAIRNESS PAYCHECK ACT, did NOTHING to ensure women are payed the same you fuxing idiot. The BULLSHIT PAYCHECK ACT allowed UNLIMITED LAWSUIT CLAIMS.

Jane

The libs picked the wrong governor to demonize too. Scott Walker is so gracious & articulate & nice looking.
The contrast between the childish lib/union insanity & the adult, calm Walker really stands out.

Walker is a guy who appears to be in government for exactly the right reason. I can't believe he put up with a full year of this stuff and kept his cool.

Read a tweet today that says Kleefisch has colon cancer. (The tweet hoped she died from it.) 2 more gracious people you will not find. I also don't believe Walker has a college degree. All of our politicians should be chosen randomly from the phone book.

Danube of Thought

Don't bother ol' Rodger. He's getting ready to go to the polls.

NK

Yesterday was a good day, a battle won, in the long war defending freedom and each citizen's liberty against tyranny. The tyranny of Kings' "divine right" of the past and today's filthy socialist totaliterian scum. The next battle is in November. A bigger fight and the victory will be sweeter.

Rob Crawford

Re: "Democracy is dead".

Setting aside that we actually have a Republic, what do these thugs think elections are? They lost an election -- OK, three -- that doesn't mean there won't be another one!

Are these people so wrapped up in their politics that a lost election means that much to them? Honestly -- what is wrong with them?

Gus

Jane, Scott Walker is "God" centered. I chatted with him last night. He left Marquette University in the second semester of his Senior year to provide for his family.
The LEFT is immoral. I asked last week for names of any LIBS or DEMS with integrity. The list was small and shrinking.

Gus

WeeWee'd up DouchebagDave said.
"So in terms of taking away the rights of workers, yesterday was a majour victory for you Republicans."

Sorry Douchebag, we just kicked the GOVERNMENT GOOONIONS to the curb.

Suck on that chump.

henry

what is wrong with them? they have to get actual jobs now.

Thomas Collins

There is already federal equal pay legislation, DublinDave. In any event, I too am concerned about pay disparities. In fact, to lead the way, I think all prog Congresscritters should contribute half their salary to a Congressional Prog Comparable Worth Trust. Distributions from this trust should be made to equalize all salaries in a prog Congressional office. Why should a secretary in Nancy Pelosi's office make less than Nancy Pelosi. The secretary's work is obviously more worthwhile than San Fran Nan's work.

If a portion of each prog Congresscritter's salary isn't sufficient, I would impose a 55% wealth tax on each prog Congresscritter to increase funding of the trust. Frankly, I'm surprised prog Congresscritters haven't already started such a trust. After all, the 1% must make sacrifices for the 99%!

narciso

I saw that Jane, what kind of wretched nazgul would say such a thing, I answered my own question,

Rob Crawford

The BULLSHIT PAYCHECK ACT allowed UNLIMITED LAWSUIT CLAIMS.

AKA the "Lily Ledbetter Trial Lawyer Contributions Guarantee Act".

Danube of Thought

From AJ Strata:

"Franklin Delano Roosevelt—who more than any other president set our country on a course away from the founding principles of limited government—knew that public sector unions would be the death of the social welfare state he worked so hard to create. Hence, he consistently opposed allowing government employees to unionize. Today, Greece sets the example of what happens when public sector unions gain the upper hand."

Go ahead, DuDa: tell us why government workers should have collective bargaining rights.

Gus

Last nights victory should be named.

The FAIRNESS TO THE TAXPAYER ACT brought to you by DOUCHEBAGDAVE.

Rob Crawford

Another thought on the death threats and wishes for painful deaths:

Aren't these the people who (inaccurately) prattle on about karma?

Aren't they the ones who drive cars with "Hate Is Not A Family Value" bumper stickers?

If I *ever* hear another GD lefty whine about "hate filled Tea Party rhetoric", I will puke on his shoes.

Ignatz

--Added to the victory of taking away the bargaining rights of public workers was the Republican Senate halting of the 'fairness paycheck act' that would have ensured women are payed the same as men.--

Collective bargaining is not a right, especially for public employee unions, which in themselves do not constitute a right.
As to the 'fairness paycheck act' it is usually the case that any bill with the word 'fairness' in it is either screwing somebody or as Rob notes only 'fair' in that deposits vast amounts of chum in the water for the insatiable trial lawyers.

Captain Hate

Maybe El JEFe's administration should voluntarily quit underpaying wimmenz, since Stedman is very selective on which laws he chooses to enforce anyway.

Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA

"It's too early to gloat, the Democrats are voting today."
CBoldt, that's wicked!
Wickedly funny, I mean...

Captain Hate

Shouldn't the JEF be holding a presser like he did in November 2010 where he can look all butthurt and talk about what he's "learned". Or did Mooch's appearance on the gap-toothed imbecile's show serve as that?

Rodger Badger

"Rodger - nothing is gonna cross Walker's desk because there will be no legislative work until after November elections."

It prevents Walker from calling a special session to forcemeat his crap through the legislative grinder.

But he has legal issues which loom larger.

Captain Hate

Occupy Pitzer

MarkO

Open-throated gloating. Vigorous vituperation of the progs. Mine eyes have seen the glory.

Bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry.

For we desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines.

Porchlight

It prevents Walker from calling a special session to forcemeat his crap through the legislative grinder.

He can still call a session and get Democrats on record voting against popular measures. Might make for interesting GOP ads in November, no?


But he has legal issues which loom larger.

Too bad you guys blew your one chance at a recall then, huh?

Sue

Rush is playing Wolf Blitzer, back to back, from his 9 o'clock update to his 10 o'clock update. It is hilarious listening to Blitzer at 9 when he believes CNN's exit polling and then at 10 when reality sets in.

jimmyk

it is usually the case that any bill with the word 'fairness' in it is either screwing somebody or as Rob notes only 'fair' in that deposits vast amounts of chum in the water for the insatiable trial lawyers.

And the same goes whenever someone on the left talks about "rights." Invariably it is the right to screw somebody or obtain special privileges. Rights are almost invariably individual, not collective. Even the right to "peaceably assemble" is predicated on the freedom of individual choice. Collective bargaining is a special privilege that gives union thugs the power to extort.

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