Vox Populi

Overturning the ObamaCare mandate polls well. [Full poll.]

THIS I BELIEVE: Right now someone is working on updating the video of Hitler learning that ObamaCare has been repealed. I say they may as well release it tonight so that we can enjoy it right now even if a new dawn brings, well, a new dawn for ObamaCare.

I SUPPOSE I ALSO BELIEVE... Someone somewhere must be working on Hitler learning that ObamaCare has been upheld.  I don't think I will find that one quite as amusing. No, in fact, I am sure I won't.

Comments

[Dave (in MA)]

Oops.

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/06/27/im-guessing-sun-times-editor-jim-kirk-was-a-boy-scout-hes-prepared/

[Ignatz]

My wife saw him in Hawaii before I knew her and really enjoyed the show although she was no psycho Elvis fan.

[Ignatz]

--Posted by: Elvis | June 28, 2012 at 12:01 AM--

He lives! And he's funny!

[Sara]

Ig: He put on a hell of a show. The first time I saw him in Vegas, it was amazing to see how he could hold a crowd and work them. My Mother was with me and she kept saying, "Wow, no wonder you love him so much." Of course, when I was a pre-teen and the first Elvis hits came out, she bought them all for me, back when you could buy a 45rpm for 10 cents each. I was the Queen of pre-teen parties when I would bring the full collection of Sun Records. So, I think she was really a closet Elvis fan, but her classical music roots wouldn't allow her to admit it out loud.

[MarkO]

I confess. I loved Elvis. Had the Elvis hair. I remember August 16, 1977. I finally had enough money to see Elvis in person. I was taking depositions in the Transamerica building in SFO. I came out on the street to see a paper that said he was dead.

I went to Graceland in 1974 and stood outside the gates. He was home. I thought he might come out and give me a Cadillac. Nope.

Still love Elvis and I have so many 45's.

[Danube of Thought]

The first time I saw Elvis was the first night I got drunk--three quarts of Bud. Jackie Gleason introduced him and I was mesmerized. I loved all the oiginal stuff--I' Left, You're Right, She's Gone; Blue Moon of Kentucky; That's Allright, Mama; I Got a Woman...

When Tom Parker took over I became concerned, and my ardor cooled. I took Hound Dog as a red flag, and my worst fears were realized. After that he became increasingly awful, and the movies were uniformly unwatchable. Fortunatelt there was James Brown and the Famous Flames, Howlin' Wolf, Jimmie Reed and Johnny Otis.

[Danube of Thought]

Here's what they'll do:

Most likely: let it stand

Next: strike the mandate, let the rest stand (no way are they going to re-write that meass

Least: strike the whole thing

[Danube of Thought]

Most fun of the morning: that cringe-making period of time between when the press gets the opinion in hand and someone has figured out what it means.

[Sara]

I think I'll stay up really late and then sleep thru all the morning excitement. I don't think I could stand hearing it wasn't struck down.

[narciso]

On the other front tomorrow;

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.ca/2012/06/sipsey-street-exclusive-having.html

[daddy]

A terrific fun column on 'Patches Kennedy" from Howie Carr this morning:

A supremely bizarre letter from Patches

Patches: “If the Court upholds the law, dangerous Tea Party extremists will go on a rampage.”

Howie's reply: "A rampage? Need I remind you, Patches, more people have died in your grandmother’s ’67 Oldsmobile Delmont than in all the Tea Party “riots” combined."

[dublindave]

FROM NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE:

"Fast and Furious is a horrific scandal. The public deserves answers as to who devised the operation and what they hoped to accomplish. But the theory that Fast and Furious was devised to promote gun control goes far beyond the evidence, as Issa basically admitted to ABC this weekend, and it does not withstand scrutiny. The chairman should be ashamed to have dabbled in it, and should fully retract his initial comment, unless he has a considerable amount of evidence he has not shared with the public"

It's not just the chairman who subscribes to this batshit crazy theory,every single Republican member of the oversight committee and every single Republican member of congress has suggested it.Hell, even Mitt Romney expressed concern that the President of the United states and Eric holder conspired to undermine 2nd amendment rights by allowing guns to walk to mexico.

(of course Mitt Romney didn't suggest such a thing but it doesn't matter,we're Democrats,we're going to advertise that he did right up till voting day cause das how weeese roll).

Bottom line,Daryl Issa is a tin-foil hat wearing loony-toon conspiracy theorist who has just been discredited and humiliated in from of the entire country......but we don't want him to resign.Far from it we want him front and centre representing Republicans as their oversight chairman.

Next on Issa's list;Martians have infiltrated the Democratic party in an effort to get pro-martian base building funds put into upcoming appropiations legislation.

[dublindave]

Damn that was quick;I emailed my source and he tells me that it's already been decided by RNC leaders that Issa will resign as oversight committee chairman after 'fast and spurious'is finished with.

That's complete bullshit!!!!

My source says that they want this done before election season gets into full swing and they're making Issa cite 'personal reasons'.

F***** sonsa bitches!!!!!

[daddy]

Uh Oh,

FOX this morning reporting JPMorgan actually lost 9 Billion, not 2 Billion.

[Jane]

Wake up! It's a really big day!

[Barbara]

Wake up! It's a really big day!

Jane,

Wake up!? I'm so tense, I can't go sleep.

[Jane]

Oh that's terrible Barbara. Take a nap!

[Extraneus]

dd seems kinda worried about F&F.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Ex-

The tenser they get, the faster the spin.

[hit and run]

Melinda:
Are you doing Rte 80 or 90 when choosing to motor West?

Actually, 77-64-US Hwy 35-70-74-72-29 to 80. We'll be cutting West at a more southern route than I had been thinking. We'd like to make it up that way, but the drive is too long to make detours.

CH:
Missing a state, hit?

Yike, INdeed.

It does hurt just a little right here ::index finger on heart:: to know of the many JOMers I will be passing. There is one in particular. But we really are hard pressed to make good time, and I wouldn't want to wake them up at 2am.

[Melinda Romanoff]

daddy-

You don't mean to say that Mr. Dimon lied to Congress, do you?

Again?

[hit and run]

Duda:
Alot of people stop me on the street

I'm sorry to hear that. You told us people following you and stopping you on the street would scare you shitless. How many pants have you soiled when this happens?

I assume you've never run from one of these people and then circled back and sucker punched him in the nose and mounted him MMA-style and started slamming his head on the concrete. Or at least not one who was armed.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Hit-

Just map your construction zones with AAA. It will save you some time, too.

[peter]

Methinks that if President Saul Marshall Davis Soetero reads the LUN we will see some narcissistic rage.

[mockmook]

H&R,

Still missing a state?

[marlene]

Good Morning! The sun is shining here this morning, so the day can only get better! I'm going to make my prediction,the whole thing will be struck down.

[Jack is Back!]

peter,

I'll let MarkO uses his standard riposte to your 7:10 LUN.

[pagar]

Thanks for the LUN, Peter. That and Obamacare being overturned ought to make his day.

[hit and run]

mockmook:
Still missing a state?

Uh oh. I hope not.

Oh, yeah, VA. Duh.

I really should just stare at the map for a while.

[hit and run]

New Thread!





...is what I would say if TM ever wakes up and posts one.

[peter]

Mark O, of course, has stated this much more succinctly.

[Captain Hate]

Have a great vacation, hit.

[Captain Hate]

of the many JOMers I will be passing. There is one in particular. But we really are hard pressed to make good time, and I wouldn't want to wake them up at 2am.

There's always the chance that Ann sleeps with her riding boots on.

[dublindave]

"I'm sorry to hear that. You told us people following you and stopping you on the street would scare you shitless.

Big difference between a violent gun toting thug ominously following you around at night time and a 'stop and greet'.

"I assume you've never run from one of these people and then circled back and sucker punched him in the nose and mounted him MMA-style and started slamming his head on the concrete. Or at least not one who was armed"

Well, only if I believe said crazy gun carrying nut means me harm.Then it's matter of self defence.

Then again,i'm not a 15 year old child half scared out of my mind because a violent adult is stalking me so...

[Janet]

Thanks for the 7:10 link, peter. Am. Thinker has a good article on more Dreams content - Racist Content from Dreams from My Father

God bless Thomas Lifson & American Thinker.

[Extraneus]

Click for full size.

[Captain Hate]

The excerpts in Janet's link read like Ayers' jerkoff racial fantasies of being something other than white trash with a utility executive daddy to rescue him from his screw-ups. There's no way Urkel wrote that.

[centralcal]

Good morning. So we wait...another hour and a half. And then?

[Porchlight]

Only thing wrong with that cartoon is that Obama is a lefty.

[NK]

90 minutes until the Obamacarepalooza; link below to what I think a very astute analysis by Conn Carroll of the politics of the decision today. Bottomline-- if don't like 'Bam, pray the mandate is invalidated: http://washingtonexaminer.com/morning-examiner-judgment-day/article/2500842?custom_click=rss

[Janet]

The Am. Thinker article links to this post about Louis Farrakhan.

"In December 2007, the Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) bestowed its highest social achievement award upon Louis Farrakhan, the head of the Nation of Islam."

A church that honors a leader of the Nation of Islam is NOT a Christian church. Now I don't care what they teach...but it is bogus to refer to them as a Christian church. At the very minimum a Christian must believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah...& it is ONLY through Him that we can be saved. That is what Christianity is for heaven's sake.

[centralcal]

Good observation, Porch.

[Porchlight]

It's still a great cartoon.

Good morning all! Noplace I'd rather be this morning.

Is Jane on the radio right now?

[Porchlight]

BTW, missed this last night, but I love "Suspicious Minds." Trivia: the song was written about my friend's dad's secretary.

[Porchlight]

Only thing wrong with that cartoon is that Obama is a lefty.

And just to clarify, I meant "Obama is a southpaw." We all knew he was a lefty. ;)

[dublindave]

Boehner stating that the House will move to repeal any parts of 'Obamacare'left standing......"Repeal"but not "replace".

Why would Boehner paint himself into a corner in advance of the ACA being struck down?The law contains provisions that are extremely popular with the American people,ie; pre-existing conditions been done away with???

Even Romney has suggested that he'll replace certain provisions.

So why would Boehner set himself up for political fallout....why not say that they'll repeal and replace then punt?It's almost like Boehner is using extreme language because he wants it to match the expected extreme anger of his base........but how would he know in advance that his base is going to be really really angry??

Interesting.

[Danube of Thought]

Hit--how many people in how many cars?

Where to in Idaho?

[rse]

hit-We visited the Canadian Rockies after I finished law school. My parents said they would pay if I would plan. We had a meandering trip there --Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, over to Prince Rupert, Inside Passage, Vancouver Island and Victoria, then Vancouver and Seattle. Put my sister on a plane and then drove it over the next 3 days.

This is 1984. In the middle of nowhere in Idaho we came across the Olympic torch runner on its way to the next exchange and ultimately LA. It was in the desert stretch of the Interstate.

I decided to change my pattern to go over some of the stories over the last week that confirm what I have been writing about. Let's people catch up and enjoy vacations and reiterates the foundation for what I have been saying.

Today's post is in honor of a certain JOMer who has a real interest in this particular center in Chicago.
http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/further-confirmation-of-the-planned-dominance-of-social-and-emotional-learning/

Kim-if you are around, I am sure everything that has gone on at UVa is in fact related to Mann and this new Contemplative Sciences Center and its implications. It fits in with the missing 3rd sphere apart from the geosphere and biosphere as in Sweden's IGBP. And Haidt's book, The Righteous Mind, with its misleading subtitle. That book was really a sales job to legitimize emotion over rational thought. I kept wondering if some of the conservative groups who pushed it had read it.

[narciso]

You know our leprechaun friend, is a little like William Hurt's 'regressed' hominid in Altered States, babbling incoherent, Sorkin on CNBC say it's only 4-6 billion, oh frabjous joy, and these were defensive trades.

What's this about the LIBOR and the continental banks,

[centralcal]

So Drudge on Twitter just reminded me that today is the day that we find out if Conyers was right about ACA being found in the "good and welfare clause."
snort.

[Melinda Romanoff]

OK, Mom, no need to hit with a wooden spoon. I'll dig.

[Melinda Romanoff]

narc-

I've known about LIBOR "games" since '86. It's a private market.

[NK]

Some more local SW Connecticut news. Award winning 'journalist' fired and may be stripped of Ct journalism awards, after being found out for fabricating sources in 27 'news' stories. I'm sure the NY Times or MSNBC will hire him forthwith: http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/regret-the-error/179022/connecticut-spj-board-considers-launching-its-own-investigation-of-fabrication-in-paresh-jhas-articles/

[narciso]

I came to that conclusion,rse, when I discovered there is no effect model of classroom, except those borrowed from Germany,
that treats students as autonomous individuals, as Groucho might paraphrase, if
they were autonomous individuals. . .

[NK]

'LIBOR'.... Spreads R'Us!

[Neo]

Democrats in Congress essentially ignored plausible constitutional objections to the ACA’s individual mandate, and therefore have only themselves to blame if the law is declared unconstitutional.

[dublindave]

"dd seems kinda worried about F&F."

The idea that the Attorney General of the United states promoted gun violence in Mexico so that the Obama administration could curb 2nd amendment rights is a sobering thought.

I also think it's a lesson to all Liberals intent on drinking the cool-aid.....Obama the murderer is not the man we thought he was.

Continue with this fight my right wing friend,you're doing your country a great service.

[NK]

MelR-- check out the Web for accounts of Bill Gross's most recent monthly letter-- it will take decades to dig out of the debt fetish of the past 25 years. Sad -- but true. PS: is today the day the World starts hearing about the "New Mark" for Deutschland, Austria, Neth Den and Finland? leaving France as the big guarantor of PIIGS sovereign debt? These are strange days could happen -- or maybe it waits until Sunday when Germany wins the Euro 2012 soccer tourney, and Frau Merkel gets jiggy with the Deutschland Uber Alles stuff.

[hit and run]

DoT: how many people in how many cars? Where to in Idaho?

Myself, mrs hit and run, hit and run jr and princess hit and run in one car.

We'll be in between Driggs and Victor, ID, just across the pass from Jackson Hole, WY.

rse: We visited the Canadian Rockies after I finished law school.

Love it there. mrs hit and run and I honeymooned in Banff. Only disappointment was that in May the road to Moraine Lake was still snowed in. When I was growing up we used to pack the fam in the station wagon and drive all across the west, with the farthest point from home being Banff/Jasper. For 20 years we made ~4 week/7,000 mile trips in the summers. Not always all the way up to Canada, though.

[dublindave]

Democrats in Congress essentially ignored plausible constitutional objections to the ACA’s individual mandate, and therefore have only themselves to blame if the law is declared unconstitutional.

If the law is found unconstitutional(which it wont be)then the individual mandate is off the table and we move toward medicare for all.

Tick tock tick tock tick tock

[centralcal]

For real this time - NEW THREAD.

[hit and run]

New Thread!

[Janet]

from rse's link -
"The speaker also mentioned that “adolescence is when the prefrontal cortex develops to the greatest extent.” Which is why I suppose the Middle School Principals are being taught that feeling is more important than knowing."

If I could go back, I would have been much more guarded with my kids in middle school. I eased up after elementary school.
The books targeted to that age group are beyond terrible. The modern young teen books are loaded with oral sex & homosexual stories...& that is the age that sexual thoughts & ideas are really imprinted.
It is almost impossible to read all the books, see all the movies, monitor what the teachers are saying,...

[narciso]

How does FRance guarantee anything, the whole thing reminds me of Christopher Walken's over the top (does he do any other impression) French industrialist Zorin, who is a KGB mole,
that's Hollande's job.

[pagar]

"found out for fabricating sources"

How does anyone know what sources are fabricated? Story after story talks about sources who could not be named because they were not authorized to speak on the matter.

[Melinda Romanoff]

NK-

What Gross writes and what he trades are two different things. The former reflects actions, with a six to nine month lag, of the latter's decisions.

[Neo]

Holder Contempt resolution

[NK]

"The idea that the Attorney General of the United states promoted gun violence in Mexico so that the Obama administration could curb 2nd amendment rights is a sobering thought." Personally, I don't think F&F happened exactly that way. ATF had an idiotic 'case' to sting gun runners and corrupt US gun shops. Holder was briefed very early-- he realized F&F was stupid and useless and potentially dangerous. But he let ATF carry on, because whatever happened in F&F, it could help the gun control cause with the Dems in complete control of Congress. "Never let a crisis go to waste." Brian Terry is murdered , F&F blows up in Holder's face, he lies to Congress and covers up. Then he drags 'Bam into the coverup with the bogus EP claim. Holder is a very bad man.

[narciso]

That is by no means clear, Holder was an interested party, like with his firm's representing of the 17 Yemeni detainees,
re his closing Gitmo deliberations,

[Neo]

The Wall Street Journal notes President Obama "has been doing more than sitting back and waiting" for the Supreme Court's health care decision. He has "three separate speeches prepared in anticipation of the ruling on his signature legislative achievement."

"One of the speeches addresses a complete overturn of the law, while another is crafted as if the court strikes down the law's individual mandate but upholds other provisions. The third speech, for if the court upholds the entire law, is more celebratory, according to this person."

The TOTUS is ready.

[Melinda Romanoff]

narciso-

I believe the answer you're looking for can be found in the French translation of that famous schoolyard defense handbook under the subject line: "'Cause I Said So!".

[Ignatz]

--Big difference between a violent gun toting thug ominously following you around at night time and a 'stop and greet'.--

When bgates mentioned that he innocently helped a lost young lady and ended up with her phone number in a 'stop and greet' you mentioned that also was a terrifying scenario and he's not even dickhead or asshole or however you cogently perceive yourself.

[Chubby]

the Black Caucus is planning to walk out during the contemtpt vote. Holder's problem, you understand, is not about guns or anything else, it's due to racism.

[Ignatz]

--ATF had an idiotic 'case' to sting gun runners and corrupt US gun shops.--

That is not an accurate description of what happened NK.
They could not prosecute any gunshop which they instructed to allow straw purchases to be completed.
And the instant a straw purchase was made they could have arrested any of the gun runners.
If they wished to catch larger fish they could have then turned any number of those gun runners.
If they wished to track those guns into Mexico or recover them prior to their use they would have needed to coordinate the program with Mexican law enforcement which they kept in the dark.
There was zero way any gun they allowed across the border could ever have been tracked except after its use in a crime and recovery by Mexican law enforcement.

[hit and run]

Then again,i'm not a 15 year old child

Eh, I'm not so sure. The evidence says otherwise.

[Chubby]

golly, Janet, what would be do without the left to tell us how we should direct every detail of our and our children's lives? The left is so much smarter than that old-fashioned fuddy-duddy, God.

[Jane]

Is Jane on the radio right now?

I was, and in another hour the show will be completely out of date.

[dublindave]

"--Big difference between a violent gun toting thug ominously following you around at night time and a 'stop and greet'.--"

"When bgates mentioned that he innocently helped a lost young lady and ended up with her phone number in a 'stop and greet'"

Following a woman through the streets at night time like a fuckin serial rapist kinda kills the spontaneity of the 'stop and greet'.

Hell i'd have given bgates my freakin phone number if it meant not being murdered.

[dublindave]

*******BREAKING NEWS******GOVERNOR JAN BREWER FOUND WANDERING THE STREETS IN JUST HER BRA AND PANTIES*****

In what many are describing as a dramatic turn of events,Governor Jan brewer was found wandering through the Arizona streets at 2.00 am last night by local law enforcement.When questioned by police she thanked them for upholding the Arizona papers please law and cited it as huge triumph for the state of Arizona.Police noticed that she was hacking the side of her leg with a pencil as she spoke and clearly she was in need of medical attention.

Officials say she's now resting at a local pyschiatric unit.

[NK]

Ig-- the strawman purchasers were an attempt to sting un runners, those gun shop owners were patriotic citizens who even the ATF didn't consider prosecuting. But the Fortune mag interview with the ATF agent (volf?) my recollection of his interview was that he claims the F&F 'case' was also supposed to track the runners within the US to find where they were unlawfully buying.

[Melinda Romanoff]

NK-

Fortune article already unvetted as unfounded.

[Ignatz]

--Ig-- the strawman purchasers were an attempt to sting un runners, those gun shop owners were patriotic citizens who even the ATF didn't consider prosecuting. But the Fortune mag interview with the ATF agent (volf?) my recollection of his interview was that he claims the F&F 'case' was also supposed to track the runners within the US to find where they were unlawfully buying.--

This is logically inconsistent. If the gunrunners and straw purchasers were approaching law abiding dealers then they didn't have some network of corrupt dealers supplying them and that in fact is how most smuggling through dealers happens. They go from legitimate dealer to legitimate dealer to limit the number of purchases to avoid suspicion. Unless a guy says 'I'm buying these guns for my cartel buddies not myself' it's pretty tough to identify a straw purchaser.

The ATF guys story is inconsistent with the known facts. There was no need for the ATF to OK illegal purchases by known straw men to find where they were unlawfully buying. If they had already identified them as illegal purchasers they could have tracked them just fine already. Moreover by okaying large purchases at legitimate dealers they were lowering their chances of finding corrupt dealers.
Don't get snowed; this was beyond incompetence.

[Neo]

But Obama said it's not a tax

[Neo]

Fortune said the "whistleblower" was lying, but ...
Internally, over the course of the next eight months, the Justice Department identified 140,000 pages of documents and communications responsive to the Committee’s subpoena. Yet,the Department handed over only 7,600 of these pages. Through a series of accommodations and in recognition of certain Executive Branch and law enforcement prerogatives, the Committee prioritized key documents the Department needed to produce to avoid contempt proceedings. These key documents would help the Committee understand how and why the Justice Department moved from denying whistleblower allegations to understanding they were true; the identities of officials who attempted to retaliate against whistleblowers; the reactions of senior Department officials when confronted with evidence of gunwalking during Fast and Furious,including whether they were surprised or already aware of the use of this reckless tactic, and; whether senior Department officials are being held to the same standard as lower-level employees who have been blamed for Fast and Furious by their politically-appointed bosses in Washington.

It’s like Fortune is stuck in a time warp.
It sounds perfectly like the DOJ position prior to withdrawing their Feb ’11 letter to Issa last November.