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July 07, 2012

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Porchlight

Your children are very fortunate, hit. Good times.

Porchlight

I assume black and Hispanic turnout and preference to hold at the 2008 levels which leaves white preference as the sole indicator.

Rick, I see black and Hispanic preference as the same or slightly down from 2008 but I think turnout could be substantially down. Youth turnout will be a huge drop. The thrill is gone.

Agent J

Hit, I plan to be in the mountains the last of Aug, first of Sept. Somewhere in WY, MT or Idaho..most likely somewhere in all of the above..

On the hiking, I spent two days with my 14 year old Grand Nephew, and it has taken me two weeks to recover..

The biggest problem P. Obama has is getting people to come out to vote..this will be the reason they are going to lose big time.

So should we have the delayed fireworks display on Nov 6 or wait until Jan 21..

daddy

OT for Danube.

DoT, am in the middle of a check ride with 2 other Navy folk.

The gal is doing the hammering, and after a brew or 2 of debrief at some Summit NJ pub, discover that her family, the Ned Needham clan and the Hannegan clan, have for generations now been friends of your clan. Much fun jabber about that.

Then my co-pilot, listening to all this, perked up to the first name Lloyd, who apparently was the commander of his overall outfit as a Captain back in 1994 or so up near the Oregon/Alaska operating area. I'm guessing Lloyd is a relation.

Anyway, was a fine Navy day in Jersey. No permission asked, only forgiveness requested as appropriate.

Sara

69 Politicians As They Were In High School

Nerds, dweebs, losers, and a few cuties.

narciso

This ironically reminds me of the FALN pardons
that he shepherded


http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/holder-to-la-raza-civil-rights-under-threat-or-something/

Sara

reported:

A coalition of African-American pastors is calling on blacks to boycott President Barack Obama and sign a petition demanding that the administration withdraw support for gay marriage.

The group, the 1,300-member Coalition of African-American Pastors, says it was snubbed by Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder when it demanded a meeting to discuss same-sex unions. The group had requested the meeting last month.

“By embracing gay marriage, President Obama is leading the country down an immoral path,” Rev. William Owens, president of the Memphis-based coalition, said on Friday, The Washington Examiner reports. “Some things are bigger than the next election.”

The pastors are angered with Obama’s recent endorsement of gay marriage. But the president has not suggested that he would back federal legislation permitting same-sex marriage.

The coalition supports African-American pastors who believe marriage should be between a man and a woman.

“The black church has always been the conscience of America, and today we are calling on black pastors and black Christians to withhold support from President Obama until he corrects course,” Owens said.


Janet

Agent J, When is your grandson coming home?

Sara

I don't know how the link got cut off for my 10:35

GMax

Rats continuing leaving the good ship Obama as has broen deep and is taking on water at a steady pace...

narciso

He says that, like it's a bad thing;


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/npr-crank-mark-shields-republicans-havent-raised-taxes-in-21-years-and-that-is-irresponsible/

Agent J

Janet, The only date that I have heard and or remember is sometime in December of this year..I will inquirer and see if anyone has any other date..

I chat with him once in a while but even if I asked I don't know if he could tell or not..

Again many thanks for what you and your wonderful organization have done in the past and will do in the future..Bless you and yours.

matt

I have just read that the United States has upgraded Afghanistan to "Major Ally" status. I didn't even know we had a "Major Ally" status. I can't wait to see the results of our "close cooperation" and "intelligence sharing". Maybe it just means that they shop at the PX's on the megabases.

Maybe this will reduce the Green on Blue violence. Didn't we upgrade the Republic of Vietnam to "Major Ally Status" in late 1974?

I'm going to guess that there must be a double secret status for our "Major Major Allies". And then there bust be a "Best Buddies for Life Major Ally" status we don't know about as well.

Then again, after Obumbles has pissed off the British, The Israelis, the French, the Germans, and even the Canadians, who knows who our major allies are anymore? Maybe he can lecture them on the advantages of "Major Ally-dom".

We'll always have Baghdad.And Riyadh. And Cairo's got our backs fer sure.

narciso

And in the keeping tabs territory, which the nutroots doesn't understand, shocker;


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/07/05/Yemen-US-backing-masks-Saudi-covert-ops/UPI-36041341518524/?spt=hts&or=2

Agent J

Sara those pictures woke many sleeping cells up in my old memory bank..not all good either..

Gmax and yes it is early July think what it will be like in late Oct..cooler and wetter I hope..

narciso

Yes, I took that to be a sign, that Karzai is now in deep, what's the local spicy dish, over there, matt,

I think idf they took the tack of the country in the 'Mouse that roared' they'd have a better deal.

Janet

I chat with him once in a while but even if I asked I don't know if he could tell or not..

Yeah, I wondered about that. You don't have to ask, Agent J...I'll keep going until he's home anyway.

hit and run

Agent J:
I plan to be in the mountains the last of Aug, first of Sept. Somewhere in WY, MT or Idaho..most likely somewhere in all of the above..

We won't make it to Gillette this time, staying south on our route in, otherwise I'd have inquired of your kin.

Bruce
Hit, I plan to be in the mountains the last of Aug, first of Sept. Somewhere in WY, MT or Idaho..most likely somewhere in all of the above..
Sounds like Yellowstone/Grand Tetons. But, if you get further west, am sitting right now in NW MT, 20 miles from the ID border. Nice mountains also by Missoula and in Glacier. Too low here to see anything spectacular, but the view of the mountains is pretty good about 60 miles SW towards Missoula.

Nothing against H&R and his trip, but the Grand Tetons have never been my favorite mountains. Spectacular, but kinda ugly from my point of view (having grown up in Colorado, and having inherited all of the prejudices against Wyoming - where, as they say, the men are men, and the sheep are nervous).

narciso

I admit I don't have a clue, what's the next step;

http://tribune.com.pk/story/403868/nato-supply-resumption-a-boon-for-afghan-taliban/

hit and run

matt:
I have just read that the United States has upgraded Afghanistan to "Major Ally" status. I didn't even know we had a "Major Ally" status.

Add them

And they probably "punch above their weight" now, too.

GMax

Rangers return to the win column with run scoring double in the bottom of the 10th. With that I will retire for the evening. Night night dont let the bedbugs bite...

hit and run

Bruce:
Spectacular, but kinda ugly from my point of view (having grown up in Colorado, and having inherited all of the prejudices against Wyoming - where, as they say, the men are men, and the sheep are nervous).

Heh. We lived in Denver from Jun 1996 to Jan 2002. I certainly don't view the Tetons as ugly -- but the town of Jackson I certainly do. Our joke over here in Idaho is that all the shlubs taking off from Jackson are viewing the back side of the Tetons. Over here in Idaho looking at them from the west is the front side.

Agent J

I for some unknown reason wish to go to the very Northern part of Idaho..also have a secret desire to sneak into Canada and back into the US just to say I know I can do it..just like I have done it before..

I am making all of these plans and I don't know what the higher altitudes are going to do to my old body..I will give it the old try and see what happens..If I can hang in there I would like to go over the hump and hit the coast in Oregon. Look for some of those made in Japan toys that are awash on the beach..Don't know..

Janet again thanks!!

narciso

And to think, Bill Cosby wears his Temple U
sweatshirt with pride;


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/analysis-republicans-hope-jobs-rate-drops-obama

narciso

Someone just didn't get the memo;


http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/07/pic-of-the-day-obama-dog-of-jews/

Sara

My experience with the Tetons is my Mother hitting a rock and putting a hole in the oil pan of our two week old car 15 ft. from the Summit and then getting to ride shotgun in the tow truck down the mountain. My Mother must have been in a really bad mood, because of that whole trip, I remember it very well except for the three days we ended up staying at some dude ranch while awaiting the new oil pan to arrive. It had to be shipped in from back East. I remember the log cabin we stayed in on the ranch, but have zero memory of doing anything while there, which seems weird, as I was 13 and always doing something.

Danube of Thought

Daddy--

Jesus. Lloyd is my nephew (brother's oldest boy). Hannegans and Needhams are just among the dearest of all the friends we're so lucky to have had. My very fondest to them if you are still in touch.

Amazing.

Ralph L

"Saddle up" is bound to be a calvary order, so it's perfectly acceptable. The heat wave is supposed to end Monday, with good chances of rain all week and highs in the 80's, so your yard may not be totally dead when you return.

I had a few hours in Denver in 2008 flying to Durango. The mountains are so far up in the sky, they look like they're on another planet. I hadn't remembered that when skiing there in the 80's. Durango is merely hilly in comparison.

cindyk

As a Wyoming native, I take exception to Bruce's comment. Most of us took a very wary view of any auto with a green license plate!! That being said, I spend my pre-retirement summers on Finley Point at the base of the Mission Mountains. Flathead Lake is spectacular and surrounded by both the Mission and the Swan Range. At the north point of the lake you an spot Glacier National Park (sigh...heaven)!

Frau Hoppe Hoppe Reiter

hit, I just smiled for the first time today because of your video. I loved riding along with you.

(I guess I'm the only one who finds it hard to believe the preezy doesn't have enough Obama Bucks to beat anyone under the sun. He's already everywhere online.)
Nitey-o.

Danube of Thought

Daddy--

Still digesting this. It's a lady who is a Needham/Hannegan descendant, right? And if so, yes we are multi-generational close friends with both clans.

Lloyd was also my father's name.

Ralph L

Did Lloyd go in the USAF?

Soylent Red

I didn't even know we had a "Major Ally" status.

I'm confused. Are "Major Allies" the ones who shoot us in the back whenever they get full up on the Religion of Peace, or are they the ones who soak up aid money and abscond to Dubai?

Whole country should be nuked from orbit, just to be sure.

Obama “Dog of Jews”…

Photos come from Quetta, PAK, the home of the Quetta Shura who runs the Taliban for southern AFG. We should wait until the end of fighting season when they all hole up there and then nuke Quetta too.

Alternately, we should inform them of their error and provide them with more accurate signs for their next demonstration saying, "Obama: Dog of Hollywood".

Then we should nuke them.

Soylent Red

Come to think of it, we should start nuking at the western edge of India and continue west until we get to Israel.

Call it "reducing our nuclear arsenal", and the NYT/WaPo axis of stupid will go gaga.

narciso

Well you know those translations into Urdu or Pashto, specially if one uses Babelfish,

JM Hanes

Rick:

Romney may think it wise to put some money into NC, but if I'm 99% confident about anything, it's that we're a battleground in name only. Republicans swept the legislature last time around, and I personally think they put the same sex marriage amendment on the primary election ballot to bring out the black vote in May instead of November. Obama's flight from a NC speaking engagement as folks were literally going to the polls, and his evolutionary announcement the following frackin' day was like a slap in the face of the very constituency he worked so hard to get in 2008. Add in one Democratic train wreck after another, top it off with a Convention in Charlotte, whose popular former mayor is a shoe-in for the governor's mansion, and I'm not sure the final vote tally is even going to be close.

JM Hanes

ROTFL Soylent! Have I told you lately you're my favorite?

narciso

Of course Al Ghuardian is looking at it the wrong way, we're just expediting the process;


http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/07/war-porn-makes-the-news-uk-lib-rag-guardian-outraged-american-pilot-sang-bye-bye-miss-american-pie-before-taking-out-taliban-ied-team/#comment-819459

 gus

Once upon a time, AMERICA'S Foreign and even Domestic policy, was based on what was deemed to be in America's best interests, our security and our financial best interest.
Now, America's Policies are all designed to further LEFTIST/MARXIST/ALYNSKY and OBAMA ideologies.
And NOBODY notices.
What is OBVIOUS to me, is not even NOTICED by the MFM.
G.W.BUSH is a SAINT compared to Obama et al.

 gus

Our HOMELAND SECURITY Dear Leader and BIG SIS, has determined that those of US who do not support BIG BROTHER. Are a threat to................BIG BROTHER.
The people that OBAMA and the MARXIST LEFT have chosen to be cabinet members and CZARS, are RADICALS.

And Mitt John McRomney is AFRAID of ROCKING THE BOAT. Unless the GLOVES come off, and we WIN. The day or reckoning merely becomes more and more inevitable, and eventually far far more VIOLENT.

narciso

They don't really care, gus, like the late Ron Silver, said before his conversion, 'they're our planes, drones' now, Yes the seals got Bin Laden, but delivering Egypt to the MB, might as well be Mohammed Atta's final wish,

 gus

I care Narciso. I leap frogged from being a Democrat, to NOT being a REPUBLICAN.
I cut out the middle man.
I'm a CONSERVATIVE. Logic is my friend.

daddy

Just off for the last leg of the checkride.

DoT, her name is Annie. Very good gal! If I get her home safe I think I'll have passed.

Hit,

Really enjoyed your pics and vids of the vacation. Keep 'em coming. Many thanks.

Cheers.

Hey DoT, add singing into combat to what drones won't do.  Hey, maybe we should.

But the river was dry.
==========

WingDrone's got Wagner, who else?

My drone will play violin in French. I've got the world on a string, how deep is the sea, the night has a thousand eyes, them there eyes, misty, shine, here's that rainy day, sweet rain, falling grace, pick yourself up, them there eyes.
=============

Jane - talk is cheap!

I'm with Soylent.

Janet

the NYT/WaPo axis of stupid

love that.

Jane - talk is cheap!

A little something for breakfast. 30 years difference between the lovers but no worries as Ready was "born to be a caretaker".

peter

Alas, no Clarice's Pieces today, but there is coffee. thank God for that.

pagar

Jane, that was not necessary.
Clarice, glad you're back safely, sure miss your Pieces.

Jane - talk is cheap!

Pagar,

Well I thought I would satiate the hunger created by no Pieces.

Janet

Then we should nuke them.

Just call it a drone strike....the left seems to be okay with drone strikes. The Haditha guys were hounded for civilian casualties, but nobody cares about civilian casualties anymore as long as they happen with a drone strike.

Clarice

Thanks. I am catching my breath though..beware.

rse

Well I continue to believe that if John Dillenger wanted a far more lucrative and quite legal form of robbery, he should have considered accreditation. I am far enough in now that I am reading the books the insiders have written on how to accomplish their cultural, political, and economic con of taxpayers and students.

All quite authorized by Congress and state legislatures. It truly has to be one of the greatest cons ever run. I mentioned that Princeton and Dartmouth are both livid over where they are being pushed. Plus Princeton estimates compliance paperwork costs at $1 million. And Arne has quietly empowered further.

And Doug Ross at Director Blue has my Friday post in the LUN up today.

The Californians may appreciate that it is CSU-Monterey Bay that is the model for the learning outcomes model bo, Arne and the accreditors want replicated all through higher ed. Ivies to state u's.

Basically like the federal bureaucracies, the rest of us just exist to fund the parasitical class living at our expense. Except this time it is the higher ed class. Especially admins.

And U of Phoenix is always at every table ready to sell whatever credential is mandated.

Rick Ballard

"but if I'm 99% confident about anything, it's that we're a battleground in name only"

JMH,

Yep. You were concerned because there is no trend. There has been no trend since the passage of BOzocare but there was a very definite trend from around 9/09-5/10. Obama lost the election in that period and a correct account of how he lost it would place responsibility with those who assumed BOzocare would gain in popularity (like Stimulus would ease unemployment).

The assumptions I made were very close to worst case (best case for BOzo) and are not predictions. My prediction is that black turnout will drop by at least 10% with preference dropping by a similar amount. Hispanic turnout will drop even more and Hispanic preference will be below 55%.

ABO-T1000 can continue as a lackluster mediocrity as a candidate, fulfilling every prediction I've made about him, and still win rather handily. Don't look for inspiration or leadership from him, the programmers were never tasked to develop a module incorporating those characteristics.

I'm delighted he doesn't come across in the same manner as his opponent. Two whining, sniveling nine year old pukes on stage would be too much too bear.

sailor

Do you really think, Rick Ballard, that a candidate of lackluster mediocrity can win? I don't know that I do, sadly.

cathyf

I have a couple of random thoughts about ACA-as-tax, and I wonder what other people think...

-- It's not that the ACA is a tax, but, in fact, it is a whole collection of taxes, as the Americans for Tax Reform list makes clear.

-- Each of those taxes has different effects on different people. Some will only be paid by high-income people. Some (many!) will only be paid by poor people.

-- I've come to believe over the last 10 days or so that Roberts is correct. The Court, by a 7-2 majority, removed the Fed's ability to drive the states into bankruptcy by forcing them to either expand their Medicaid spending or take away their federal Medicaid funding. Once that is gone, I think that it is true that all you've got left is a bunch of new taxes.

-- The taxes on people without HHS-approved insurance policies, and the taxes on their employers -- the so-called mandate -- are small change. As in every sleight-of-hand, the key is to watch the other hand. The key tax-hike here is the tax-law change which takes medical spending and imposes all sorts of new taxes upon it.

In the past, every new insurance-law tweak has been an incremental change. Even relatively big things like portability have resulted in insurance companies eliminating the policy features that the government doesn't want and selling policies that contain the features that the government does want. But I think that it is completely possible that HHS will lard up the "approved" policy structure with so much expensive stuff that it will be MORE expensive for companies and employees to buy the Approved Policy that to pay the premiums on very basic policies, AND pay the mandate/penalty/tax for not having (approved) insurance, AND pay BOTH the employer and employee social security tax and medicare tax on those premiums, AND pay state and federal income taxes on premiums. If that is true, the real tax money is not the piddling little "mandate" penalty. It's the social security, medicare, and income taxes on the insurance premiums. They have already done this for over-the-counter drugs by eliminating the ability to use MSA/HSA tax-sheltered money for them.

-- Important point to be demagogued. Ok, flogged mercilessly. Rich people don't pay social security taxes on marginal income. So Obamacare imposes a tax on the insurance premiums and healthcare spending of poor and middle class people while exempting rich people from the tax.

pagar

Janet, We have American servicemen who will spend most or all of their lives in prison because of actions against the enemy while the picker of the drone targets (we are assured one man controls that) will apparently sleep well and free.

http://bobmccarty.com/2012/07/06/michael-behenna-loses-final-appeal/

I have no idea how many, but apparently there are many, many military investigators reviewing every shot fired in those war zones to see if they can find
any opportunity to punish American servicemembers.

GMax

Well I am not Rick Ballard but I will answer that one, sailor. Lackluster mediocrity beats spectacular incompetence and overwhelming arrogance, hands down.
Hide and watch my friend.

sailor

Well, GMax, I always love you for being optimistic! I will try.

Rick Ballard

sailor,

Take a hard look at GMax's post concerning the number of GOP legislator's elected in the '10 wipeout. Do you imagine the ranks of the victors to be filled with sterling visionaries capable of motivating the masses through captivating oratory? '10 was an ABD vote, '12 will be the year of ABO.

BTW - Nixon, Carter and GHW Bush were all lackluster mediocrities as candidates and they all got to spend at least four years working in the Oval Office.

sailor

WEll, Rick Ballard, thank you for reminding me re Nixon, Carter and GHW Bush. But, as I recall, these lackluster mediocrities were two voted out of office and one forced out of office.

pagar

cathyf, I hear an awful lot about big increases in numbers of families to be hit by AMT in 2013.

narciso

' Taliban' Tim McGuirk, and a whole host of others, swallowed AQ's story on Haditha, whole cloth, and a whole host of people, who should have known better, like John Murtha,
echoed the charge,

Rick Ballard

sailor,

The world is just chock full of grief for those dedicated to finding it. How much Kleenex do you go through every day?

GMax

I would echo Rick with the additional addendum, 12 will also be ABD as Obamacare has nationalized all of the state and district elections. If you want to be rid of Obamacare, you must vote out Democrats. Even rather dull low information voters will easily get that.

OldTimer

Obamacare is a bonanza for bureaucrats and government workers---there will be hundreds of thousands of government 'new hires' earning incomes derived from squeezing every last dollar from the poor and middle class. Medical care will be allotted to One Size Fits All and no one will be exempt from government control and manipulation. Many seniors and seriously ill patients will die needlessly, due to rationing of life-sustaining care, and doctors will leave their profession in droves, unable to compete with the nanny-state control center in Washington, DC. Foreign doctors will need to be imported to serve the millions of newly "insured", and as with all enterprises taken over by government usurpation, graft, corruption and mediocrity will become the norm.

The IRS will have gestapo-like powers to tyrannize and harass the citizenry if they don't comply.

What's not to like if you're a liberal-progressive?

sailor

What OT said.

narciso

Maybe it's the district I'm in, and the dreck that not only we get in the fishwrap, like so,
but the echo we get on TV and radio, that makes me think it's not as easy, the Nexus 6
was easy dismantling his competitors in the primary, but much more languid in this period.

narciso

Sorry about the LUN.

sailor

Rick Ballard--I am a realist and not usually so much a pessimist. And, I cannot remember when I have gone through a box of kleenex except when I last had a cold which was about 5 years ago!

Ignatz

--Our joke over here in Idaho is that all the shlubs taking off from Jackson are viewing the back side of the Tetons. Over here in Idaho looking at them from the west is the front side.--

I never knew there was a bad view of le tetons.
What have I been doing wrong?

sailor

Iggy, As Clarice would say--you are my favorite!

bio mom

Reagan said, Never criticize another Republican. (Certainly not your presidential candidat on the public airways like the Krauthammers, Crystals, and Hayes do.)

sailor

I am not criticizing Romney--I just want him to step up and win!! I want him to destroy O like he destroyed the other Republican nominees in the primary.

Charlie (Colorado)

nothing exciting just 22 seconds of me looking at a horse's rear end.

Oh, that's too easy.

narciso

Reagan never challenged Ford, then, that's good to know,

Porchlight

I envy you guys. I've never been to any of those glorious mountains mentioned. Just flown over a few times. Mr. Porch gets to see them all the time along with all the other beauteous scenery in the country.

narciso

No I've never been, I went to the Pocono's when I was a wee lad, living in Jersey,

Charlie (Colorado)

Reagan never challenged Ford, then, that's good to know,

No, Reagan did.

Ford lost by basically 13000 votes in Ohio.

Are we seeing a pattern?

OldTimer

I agree with whomever posted yesterday that we need to see ads portraying the damage ALREADY done by the Obama progressives, and juxtapose that damage with how conservatism operates for the aspirations and earned success of the individual.

IOW, it's all about freedom and liberty with conservative values and guaranteed tyranny with the Obama-prog ideology.

It's up to the voters in November. Scary, huh...

narciso

It's not surprising, seeing how she took the Levick Group attack on Mitchell and Jensen in the past;


http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/07/sipsey-street-exclusive-send-in-clown.html

pagar

Sara had a good link that decent Americans should be supporting along with the Catholics who oppose the Obama regime's destruction of every belief held dear.

"A coalition of African-American pastors is calling on blacks to boycott President Barack Obama"

All of those who oppose the Obama regime need to be aware, the last stand of Christianity will be the US election of 2012.


Danube of Thought

RickB, do you expect that the polls will begin to reflect the things you are predicting at some point?

narciso

Well we can consider Gallup's previous track record, Danube, then you read about this;

http://washingtonexaminer.com/unethical-lawmakers-face-little-chance-of-punishment/article/2501534

narciso

It's getting to be a pattern;

http://washingtonexaminer.com/second-obama-cabinet-official-faces-contempt-of-congress-
charge/article/2501542

narciso

You see why I'm cynical;


http://weaselzippers.us/2012/07/08/debbie-wasserman-schultz-demands-that-mitt-romney-release-his-secret-hidden-files/

Janet

What's not to like if you're a liberal-progressive?

Maybe we should call them the liberal-agressives!

nothing exciting just 22 seconds of me looking at a horse's rear end

...otherwise known as watching 22 seconds of President 404 speak.

narciso

The facts don't matter at all to them;


http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/07/hallenge-to-boston-phoenix-defend-elizabeth-warren-on-cherokee-issue-or-drop-right-wing-smear-machine-accu

Rick Ballard

DoT,

Not until they switch to LV screens and even then I don't expect to see the intensity factor given fair weight. Take a look at the timing of the generic split in '10.

It was glaringly apparent in Obama's approval ratings among whites (a clear sign of general discontent) by May '10 and was not reflected in the RCP garbage averages until July. I'd like to know the source of the dough for the Quinnipiac propaganda. The PPP (Progressive Propaganda Polling) funding is clear but I can't ever recall Quinnipiac putting out this much propaganda in the past. Who's paying for it?

rse

Porch-I prefer the Canadian Rockies but Yellowstone is a great trip for kids the ages of yours. They really love the geysers and the bubbling mud and the buffalo herds.

When I went when I was 5 the bears still came up to cars. I know what hit is saying though as we went into Salt Lake, drove up through beautiful Idaho, and then end through West Yellowstone. Stayed at the Lake Yellowstone Hotel and hiked into the Yellowstone Canyon. Far more accessible with kids than the Grand but they get idea and falls.

Then out the southern route to Teton Village. We were caught on a peak by Jenny Lake the day the twister hit Salt Lake by the temple.

So much fun to show kids that beautiful topography.

Jane - talk is cheap!

I really wish some Romney surrogates who would respond to the left's demand that he disclose all his bank accounts with a demand for Obama to disclose his college grades, or his writing or the amount of taxpayer money he has spent on vacation.

pagar

"-his-secret-hidden-files/"

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/07/Obama-Spends-Record-12-Billion-To-Keep-Documents-Secret?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Bet you thought he was spending his own money on this, right?

Rick Ballard

Jane,

If we're gonna wish, I'll take a True Value campaign based upon Governor Romney's proven ability to recognize a situation where incompetent management was incapable of realizing the potential return on available assets. I would pick the three most notable successes and hammer them until until even the dullest LIV recognized their names.

True Value - Incompetent Management - It's Time for a Turnaround

It's not terribly complicated.

JM Hanes

"The IRS will have gestapo-like powers to tyrannize and harass the citizenry if they don't comply."

I don't mind a little hyperbole, but much as I might sympathize with the underlying sentiment, I hate to see anything on the order of the Gestapo trivialized in political rhetoric -- it's like the ubiquitous charges of racism, which end up making it so much harder to call out the real racists who still exist.

Lest we forget, I decided it was worth refreshing my own memory at Wikipedia:

Normal methods of investigation included various forms of blackmail, threats and extortion to secure "confessions". Beyond that, sleep deprivation and various forms of harassment were used as investigative methods. Failing that, torture and planting evidence were common methods of resolving a case, especially if the case concerned someone Jewish.

Take a look at some of the Gestapo notables, many of whom moved up the Nazi ladder:

Klaus Barbie - the Butcher
Hermann Goring - the Gestapo's Founding Father
Reinhard Heydrich - Kristallnacht & concentration camps
Adolf Eichmann - just one of many Heydrich proteges
Heinrich Himmler - Exterminator in Chief
Ernst Kaltenbrunner - whom "even Himmler feared"

The IRS is given far too free a hand, but it ain't your Daddy's Gestapo.

JM Hanes

Rick:

"If we're gonna wish, I'll take a True Value campaign based upon Governor Romney's proven ability to recognize a situation where incompetent management was incapable of realizing the potential return on available assets."

Amen, here. Even Obama isn't trying to do inspirational any more.

JM Hanes

The O's are skipping Martha's Vineyard this year -- but the most interesting part is that they apparently were planning a trip and then cancelled it. Even Obama must have figured out how hard it would be to contrast Romney's jet skis and expensive vacation digs with the Greyhound buses and humble HoJo's our Prez is used to.

Danube of Thought

Well, Raz uses an LV model with a good rack record, and right now he has it dead even.

Clarice

Excellent, jmh!

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