Household Income Down During "Recovery"

Are you better off than you were three years ago, at the beginning of the Obama recovery? The NY Times says, probably not:

Americans nearing retirement age have suffered disproportionately after the financial crisis: along with the declining value of their homes, which were intended to cushion their final years, their incomes have fallen sharply.

The typical household income for people age 55 to 64 years old is almost 10 percent less in today’s dollars than it was when the recovery officially began three years ago, according to a new report from Sentier Research, a data analysis company that specializes in demographic and income data.

Across the country, in almost every demographic, Americans earn less today than they did in June 2009, when the recovery technically started. As of June, the median household income for all Americans was $50,964, or 4.8 percent lower than its level three years earlier, when the inflation-adjusted median income was $53,508.

However, the WaPo notes that the pain has not been evenly shared by sector:

Households led by the self-employed saw their income drop 9.4 percent, to $66,752, the report said. Households headed by private-sector employees saw wages drop by 4.5 percent, to $63,800, and households led by government workers saw median income decline by 3.5 percent, to $77,998, the report said.

Government workers, on average, are better educated than private-sector workers, which could help explain their higher wage levels, Green said.

Captain Ed has the video of Obama explaining that theprivatesector is "doing fine", but let's go the the text:

Question: What about the Republicans saying that you're blaming the Europeans for the failures of your own policies?

President Obama: The truth of the matter is that, as I said, we created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months, over 800,000 just this year alone.

The private sector is doing fine. Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government. Oftentimes cuts initiated by, you know, Governors or mayors who are not getting the kind of help that they have in the past from the federal government and who don't have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in.

And so, you know, if Republicans want to be helpful, if they really want to move forward and put people back to work, what they should be thinking about is how do we help state and local governments and how do we help the construction industry? Because the recipes that they're promoting are basically the kinds of policies that would add weakness to the -- to the economy, would result in further layoffs, would not provide relief in the housing market, and would result, I think most economists estimate, in lower growth and fewer jobs, not more.

 These reports are coming from Sentier Research. heir latest report is available for $25 but last month's report, which describes their methodology and foreshadows their results, is free.

I DEPLORE THESE FALSE EQUIVALENCIES: ABC News delivers a 'gotcha' so phony they quit mid-story:

Mitt Romney Says Big Business ‘Doing Fine’ After Criticizing Obama for Similar Remarks

Sure, if the "private sector", which includes the workers therein, equals "big business" shareholders. Let's press on:

HOPKINS, Minn. – Mitt Romney tonight said that big businesses are “doing fine,” using similar language that the presumptive nominee has hammered President Obama for using to describe the private sector earlier this year.

“I’m going to champion small business. We’ve got to make it easier for small businesses. Big business is doing fine in many places – they get the loans they need, they can deal with all the regulation,” said Romney, speaking to a group of supporters at a private fundraiser in Minnesota this evening.

Romney then added that the reason that big businesses are “doing fine in many places” is because they are able to invest their money in “tax havens.”

“They know how to find ways to get through the tax code, save money by putting various things in the places where there are low tax havens around the world for their businesses,” said Romney. “But small business is getting crushed.”

This is newsworthy? Let's cut back to the WaPo coverage of declining household incomes:

Corporate profits, meanwhile, have recovered. But with workers producing more on the job, the gains in economic output have not been matched by new hiring.

“The character of the recovery has been one that has benefited businesses more than it has workers,” said Gary Burtless, a Brookings Institution economist.

The S&P 500 has more than doubled from the spring 2009 lows and (at 1400) is around the levels seen in April 2008 (getting back to the Oct 2007 level of 1565 would be record territory).

 

Comments

[Some guy]

1st

[Some guy]

"And so, you know, if Republicans want to be helpful, if they really want to move forward"

That still makes me LOL. What a tool.

[Rick Ballard]

"Americans earn less today than they did in June 2009, when the recovery technically started."

How much is due to Mad Ben's ZIRP? I'm sure we can all agree on the absolute paramount necessity of keeping the money center banks theoretically solvent and it's certainly very wise to completely mask the cost of government debt service but mightn't the economy be just a teeny bit stronger had the Fed not picked the pockets of everyone who receives interest income?

[Threadkiller]

A fake recovery?

"President Obama's Twitter account has 18.8 million followers -- but more than half of them really don't exist, according to reports.

A new Web tool has determined that 70% of Obama's crowd includes "fake followers," The New York Times reports in a story about how Twitter followers can be purchased.

"The practice has become so widespread that StatusPeople, a social media management company in London, released a Web tool last month called the Fake Follower Check that it says can ascertain how many fake followers you and your friends have," the Times reports."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/obama-has-millions-of-fake-twitter-followers/1#.UDeZEKOLUiu

[maryrose]

If only Obama would tell the truth. He blew the recovery and now wants another chance to fix it. All those in favor...say aye.

[Gus]

The Empire State Building gunman was laid off by Romney and Bain.
OR
He drank A 32OZ. Pepsi.
OR
Sarah Palin caused it.

[Janet]

The Barack Hussein Obama Phenomenon ~ what a scam. Global warming & Barry can vie for top billing in a scam competition.

[MarkO]

7th.

[Janet]

7th.

nope...sorry, MarkO. I bet it's embarrassing to be edged out by a smoker.

[centralcal]

lol, Janet!

[Gus]

Janet is SMOKIN'

[MarkO]

Janet, are you doping?

OK. I'll take 8th. Just to be near you.

[Sue]

Lol

[DebinNC]

The guy the ESB shooter killed had a protective order against him, but, thanks to Bloomberg, he couldn't legally protect himself.

[MarkO]

Then, Bloomberg killed him.

[Jim Eagle]

OT: Now this is brutal.

Anderson Cooper, of all people, bruising that skank (sorry for my language but that's what she is) and pathological/scatological liar DWS for her immoral, unethical and totally erroneous email on Romney-Ryan and abortion.

h/t The Right Scoop.

Apologies if previously posted.

[NK]

Seriously- this is going to be a huge story. RR are being real smart linking Bam to Big/Crony business, Big Unions, government workers, and do nothing Medicaid beneficiaries who are getting retires' Medicare $$$, while the rest of us have lower incomes, pay $4 gas and the highest beef prices ever. This election shouldn't even be close.

[matt]

The oligopoly has done very well with crony capitalism and corporate welfare and sees the effect that further QE will have on the rest of us.

Reading everything I can on the European crisis I am coming up with zilch on any tangible progress. Merkel is still insisting Germany will not bail out Greece and the Troika report that was supposed to be released a week or so ago was not. Samaras is in Berlin tonight after Hollande and Merkel were to have met today.

Spain is a deer in the headlights at the moment and Obama is apparently begging the Euros not to toss Greece out until after our elections because it would affect him negatively. How much more craven can one get?

Gold is reacting by rising. Last week's Pebble Beach car auctions blew the records away. Suddenly, durable goods sales were up over 4% and the RE market reports are hunky dory. I know the RE reports are reasonably accurate, but have my doubts about durable goods.

China is in recession, and my Japanese colleagues are scared about their economy.Our stock market is moving on minimal volumes.Next week is, I think, a tell. The Euros will be back in the office and things will start happening.There's not much left of a can to kick any more.It's rusty, flattened, torn, and bent.

Most of those big businesses are still sitting on piles of cash, and I think Romney has it right on this one. I just pray that he's developing contingency plans and that there is enough time to shunt the express train to hell onto a side track.

[narciso]

And you wonder why I'm cynical, occasionally.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wasserman-schultz-refuses-to-acknowledge-shes-misquoting-the-la-times-after-baffled-cooper-calls-her-out/

[MarkO]

Didn't sleep a wink last night. Dreamed of Sandra Fluke stealing from her own grandchildren. Worse yet, I could not understand how she had them, considering I paid all those years for her contraceptives.

DOOM.

[NK]

Matt@1:23-- can't disagree with a word. I would only add that the Ber-Nank is apparently hellbent on QE3 at a time of $4 gas and drought fueled skyrocketing food prices. The Ber-Nank must hate american consumers and love Gulf Sheiks.

[Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!]

A new Web tool has determined that 70% of Obama's crowd includes "fake followers," The New York Times reports in a story about how Twitter followers can be purchased.

Who's paying for it?

[GMAX]

Just a guess Jane, but you AND ME.

[Clarice]

They're probably paying off the fake twitterers with Stimulus funds..

[MarkO]

No fooling. This is not from the Onion, rather from the NYT Onion.

"Mr. Obama’s campaign blasted out a critical statement.

“Throughout this campaign, Governor Romney has embraced the most strident voices in his party instead of standing up to them,” said Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the president’s campaign, in an e-mail statement. “It’s one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach. But Governor Romney’s decision to directly enlist himself in the birther movement should give pause to any rational voter across America.”

Now, back to the dog on the car jokes.

[Captain Hate]

Spain is a deer in the headlights at the moment and Obama is apparently begging the Euros not to toss Greece out until after our elections because it would affect him negatively. How much more craven can one get?

There are still 75 days iirc to answer that question.

[Gus]

Food and energy prices are not included in the inflation index.

What are you paying for food and energy compared to 4 years ago?

[Ignatz]

--the RE market reports are hunky dory--

They're a mixed bag at best, matt. Prices slightly up sales down then vice versa the next month. IMO RE is now beginning the puny "recovery" from a deep hole the rest of the economy had in 2009, only RE's recovery may be starting just in time for a new downturn.

[Captain Hate]

Kimberly Strassel on what you *won't* see in any JEF campaign ads: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444358404577607653771401124.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

[narciso]

What's that laff trac guy, say 'comedy gold'
re Labolt,

http://thecmocollective.com/Chicago/speakers/ben-labolt/?iframe=true&width=480&height=320

[Threadkiller]

More layers of MarkO' onion:

"Mitt Romney made a joke about his birth certificate at a rally in Commerce, Mich. on Friday.

Speaking about his Michigan roots, he said, "No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know that this is the place that we were born and raised."

The joke was received with hearty applause by the audience. Still, it was an awkward moment for the candidate to play on the birther conspiracies that have plagued Barack Obama since he ran for president in 2008, even after the president released his "long-form" birth certificate in 2011.

The Obama campaign quickly responded, with spokesman Ben LaBolt saying that Romney was embracing the most extreme elements in the conservative movement.

"Throughout this campaign, Governor Romney has embraced the most strident voices in his party instead of standing up to them," he said. "It's one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach. But Governor Romney's decision to directly enlist himself in the birther movement should give pause to any rational voter across America."

Romney adviser Kevin Madden played down the joke, saying Romney was "only referencing that Michigan, where he is campaigning today, is the state where he himself was born and raised."

Mitt Romney's own birth certificate was released by Reuters on the same day when the candidate appeared with Donald Trump, who loudly amplified doubts about the president's birthplace.

Romney's son Matt joked earlier this year about Obama's birth certificate, a quip for which he later apologized. Referring to his father's tax returns, he said,"I heard that someone suggested that as soon as President Obama releases his grades, and birth certificate, and a sort of a long list of things, then maybe he will.""

[Threadkiller]

Here is the video of Mitt's "awkward" joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgxeUT6gzko

Awkward for whom?

[Captain Hate]

I love that Mitt has LaBolt and Pinch's catamites dancing like trained monkeys to an organ grinder. Schmidt and Wallace will be found on the fainting couches from here on out. Spot shortages of cold compresses.

[NK]

Ben LaBolt is further proof-- they can't take the mocking-- keep it coming.

[Gus]

Yeah TK ,making jokes about birtherism is ONLY ALLOWED to be done by OBAMA himself.

And Romney doesn't have a windmill on his car.

[NK]

CaptH-- are you satisfied that this is not 2008, and that the ABO-T1000 unit has some STYLE.

[Threadkiller]

Interesting tidbit about Labolt; he was born in 1981.

That is 20 years after 1961. Maybe DoT will piece together a conspiratorial connection.

[Captain Hate]

NK, this is so far from 2008 that it's like it's a different party to be voting for. Remember when the primaries were spelling DOOM for us?

[Clarice]

Gosh, that was a brutal and extreme joke.

Obama "exceedingly thin skinned" Obama...It's just beginning buddy--You've been dishing it out for years and now it's time to start taking it.

[Captain Hate]

Tammy Bruce is pounding the MFM for not planning on covering Ann Romney's convention speech.

[Rick Ballard]

NK,

I like the styling on the ABO-T1000 but I'm much more impressed with the D-9 drive train and the wood chipper accessory package. It may not hug the curves but the capability of cutting its own roadway more than makes up for it.

[NK]

CH@1:56-- that's the way I see it. The whole campaign has a cheeky edge that is just humorous enough to say 'who moi?' when Bam and The Legacy Media scream dirty campaign. Plus-- ABO-T1000 is adaptive-- when the one note Bam's economy sucks campaign got stale, they switched to Medicare and small business growth/turnaround. I know some people here were angry over the Akin flap, but on balance I'm very pleased. My RR donation goes out this weekend.

[hit and run]

"It was a light-hearted, off-the-cuff joke Governor Romney made, with no ill-intent toward President Obama. It really meant nothing, and we regret that it has so gotten his attention. In fact, he probably only heard the remark because of his incredibly over-sized ears, bless his heart."
--stuff a Romney spokesperson probably shouldn't actually say

[Threadkiller]

Did LaBolt spill the beans on Trump's surprise?

LaBolt states

"It's one thing to give the stage in Tampa to Donald Trump, Sheriff Arpaio, and Kris Kobach"

We know Trump has a role at the convention, and I just looked up Kris Kobach's involvement.

http://americasvoiceonline.org/press_releases/kris-kobach-role-at-gop-convention-punctures-myth-that-romney-is-pushing-for-sensible-immigration-policy/

How did Arpaio get a shout out?? Is he Trump's "big surprise?"

If not, they are certainly worried about it.

[matt]

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the Dem leadership is collectively off their meds.

If Cooper and Leno and Tapper are dogging them for their mendacity, they have lost the middle entirely. It may soon be a case of the old Bolshies gathering down at the Union Hall and singing the IWW's greatest hits. Or they can listen to Springsteen whine about the common man.

The rest of us just want to put them out on the sidewalk and as far away from sharp objects as possible so they don't hurt others.

But the rot goes so close to the core that the government is going to need a series of root canals to save what is left. The EPA, HHS, Justice, Homeland, State and just about every department are so riven with leftist ideologues that a purge is necessary. And they will use the law to fight every inch of the way. The civil service was supposed to be apolitical and is anything but now.

The State Department is now taking their old Country Notes, which I used to find useful, and turning them into political propaganda. Hillary has become what seems to be a drunken embarrassment. We're going to need cans of lye and firehoses to wash that stable out.

This country needs two poles and sets of strong principles based upon our common heritage. What we've gotten is a combination of Orwell, the Marx Brothers, and a zonked out Tammany Hall.

[daddy]

A new story is up about corruption in UNC Chapel Hill College football.

---Sure our players all got A's in 54 non-existant African American Studies classes.

---Sure there was plenty of unauthorized grade changes, forged faculty signatures on grade rolls, and limited or no class time.

---Sure our Coach was fired along with some of the guilty Professors.

---And sure now they are uncovering similar corruption at the University that stretches back for years and years and years,

But according to the story, "It may be that the NCAA’s lack of oversight and rules enforcement is at least partly to blame."

Damn straight. I blame the NCAA. Go Heels!.

[Captain Hate]

The trouble with Hole football is they cheated a lot and were still a terrible team.

[MarkO]

There is actually more to the Romney quip about birth certificates than just Obama. When Mitt’s dad ran for president there was a question raised about whether he was eligible because his own father had been born in Mexico. As opposed to the way one has to pretend with constructive intellectuals such as Kerry or Obama, this quip was, in fact, nuanced.
I suspect the audience that “got it” as it was intended was miniscule and included very few members of what is laughingly called the working press.

[Gus]

If I'm Romney I ask Obie Von Kenya.

Who's your Daddy??

[NK]

Matt@2:20 and earlier thread JMH @12:19 are en fuego. Absolutely fantastic stuff. Sad that it's all true, but fantastic that they articulated those sad realities so well. Bravo Zulu.

[bgates]

stuff a Romney spokesperson probably shouldn't actually say

"Oh, it was a Joe Biden - a mostly harmless joke (though if you detected a strain of maliciousness, you wouldn't be wrong)."

[NK]

Obie Von Kenya-- heh.

[daddy]

"The trouble with Hole football is they cheated a lot and were still a terrible team."

No question about it Captain.

We were as ugly on and off the field as your team's uniforms:)

[hit and run]

"No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate."

Romney lied!!!11!!1!!!!!

As Politico's Maggie Haberman quickly noted on Twitter, reporters asked to see copies of Romney's birth certificate during the 2008 campaign—not to see his birthplace but rather to verify his full name.

[JM Hanes]

"Governors or mayors... don't have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in."

Add that one to the new improved Dictionary of Euphemisms. If those beleaguered governors can't borrow money, it's incumbent on the Feds to borrow it for them.

[daddy]

Just starting catch up but I have to agree with Rush this morning on the Anderson Cooper/ Debbie Wasserman Shultz interview.

She basically got away with murder and he very very meekly challenged her. If I'm her, I'd do it again and again in a heartbeat since if that's as tough as he's going to be challenging her, there is no downside at all and she happily gets her talking point out.

There is a moment towards the end of the interview where she says Mitt Romney is being "disingenuous" and you can just see Anderson's mind replying "You are the one being disingenuous" but instead he holds himself back, doesn't make that called for response, and allows her to get away with it. If it had been a Conservative pulling that lie, no way would Cooper have not forcefully challenged the Conservative.

The remarkable thing about it tho' as Rush says, is simply that he challenged her facts at all. Oh well. At least Cooper did better than normal.

[MarkO]

"At least Cooper did better than normal."

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

[Captain Hate]

I'm as far from an Anderson Cooper fan as you can get, but I thought he made it clear what he thought of that hideous dimwit's lying garbage and just gave up on shaming her to be honest.

[hit and run]

Happy Birthday Chaco!!!

[JM Hanes]

daddy:

Ditto that. I actually thought Wasserman Shulz got the better of that moment. She almost completely ignored Cooper, and just kept pounding away at "The bottom line is...," which essentially left him stuttering, "Yes, but...."

It remains to be seen if Cooper will up his game, or decide he won't be doing that again, any time soon. I once thought he had real potential till CNN turned primetime over to him completely, before he even had time to earn some real stripes.

Captain Hate:

Thanks for the link to Strassel, who nails it again. She's one of the brightest lights on op-ed pages any where.

[Ignatz]

--Household Income Down During "Recovery"--

Nearing the second page of comments and no one has correctly answered the implied question?

It's _____'s fault.

[JM Hanes]

Chaco:

Wish I knew how to say Happy Birthday like a Base 8 code talker or something, but a Happy Birthday to you it is!

[Captain Hate]

JMH, she's also been a very good addition to the Fox News Sunday panel on a sporadic basis.

Happy birthday, ChaCo.

[MarkO]

Happy Birthday Chaco. Enjoy it.

[alcibiades]

Wow, I'm surprised that Tom hasn't commented about Lance yet? Too heartbroken? Or too cynical?

[rse]

If RR want to take on the ed behemoth and form a winning coalition that peels away part of Obama's base they could not do better than to reject Obama's implementation of the Social Reconstruction view of education. That's how he gets to his fundamental transformation.

http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/if-reality-is-ignored-or-disregarded-when-do-we-become-a-state-against-its-people/

Quit mentioning unions although they are on board and have been from its Dewey incarnation. It's all the interest groups living off the taxpayer while trying to subvert this great country.

Same is true in Oz and UK and Canada and all over Europe.

Have to go to carpool and help Red pack.

But this is our warcry as parents and taxpayers and voters on what is being pushed at us under the cloak of education.

[Jane - talk is cheap!]

Happy Birthday Chaco!

I too am a Strassel fan altho I found that article incredibly depressing.

[Danube of Thought]

Have a happy day, ChaCo.

Ed Morrissey:

"So how has Team Obama’s blitz of negative personal attacks against Mitt Romney fared?  According to a three-month poll series on personal qualities by Gallup, the campaign strategy and $120 million ad outlay since May have definitely damaged likeability … for Obama.  His likeability edge has dropped by nine points over that period, and he’s still nine points below Romney on the economy — and worse on the budget:

"'As the two-week period of back-to-back presidential nominating conventions gets underway next Monday, an Aug. 20-22 USA Today/Gallup poll underscores the strengths and weaknesses of each of the two candidates at this point in the campaign. Barack Obama retains a significant edge over Mitt Romney on personal dimensions, particularly in terms of his 'likability,' while Americans still believe Romney is better able to handle the economy. …

"'Gallup has measured the 'likability' gap between Obama and Romney three times since May, and Obama’s edge has narrowed during that time.

"'Additionally, Romney has gained on Obama in being perceived as 'a strong and decisive leader,' reducing Obama’s lead on this dimension from 17 points when it was included in Gallup Daily tracking in May to five points today'."

[Clarice]

Someone predicted here or elsewhere that a number of the injuries outside the Empire State Bldg had to be poice-inflicted because Bloomie emphasized at his presser that no women or children were killed. Genius.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EMPIRE_STATE_BUILDING_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-24-11-49-15

[Clarice]

Leafing thru today's WaPo, everyone from the news and feature writers to the columnists--Robinson,Henniberger and Dionne esp come to mind--give off a whiff of political desperation. It's palpable.

[Porchlight]

As Politico's Maggie Haberman quickly noted on Twitter, reporters asked to see copies of Romney's birth certificate during the 2008 campaign—not to see his birthplace but rather to verify his full name.

So did anyone ask Maggie why reporters didn't ask to see Obama's birth certificate in 2008 in order to verify his full name? If not, why not?

They still get it messed up on occasion and call him Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. instead of Barack Hussein Obama II - which is what it says on the BC.

[lyle]

Robinson,Henniberger and Dionne esp come to mind--give off a whiff of political desperation. It's palpable.

/Sad crocodile tear face.

[Clarice]

Their readers are going to be so surprised when O loses in November. They'll have to pitch another the election was stolen act.

[derwill]

Romney cracks a little joke about birth certificates, and MSNBC calls it . . .

"The basest, most despicable bigotry we might be able to imagine!!!!"

Might want to buy some stock in Orville Redenbacher. After the convention when Romeny opens up his war chest and really starts going after the One and Done, there's going to such a conflagration of heads on fire at 30 Rockefeller Plaza, the NYFD will be needing help from fire fighters as far away as Pennsylvania and Vermont to put it out.

[daddy]

Miller has on Jerome Corsi right now.

Had a great comment a minute ago. Following a terrible caller that Dennis cut off because she was bonkers and boring, Dennis quips to his sidekick, "Do you get the feeling sometime that some of our callers are just phoning it in?"

Very funny.

[JM Hanes]

Anne:

"I would like to read some opinions here from someone who believes whatever MSNBC's commentators say."

dublindave is the closest thing we've got to a source on that here, but he makes so much shit up, it's hard to tell what's original and what's derivative.

[narciso]

Well if the Cohen Bros, and I'm referring to their earlier work, Raising Arizona and Fargo,
ran a newspaper, it would be as absurd as the Post. Now Robinson, is just a fool, although Henneberger is an import from the Times,

[centralcal]

derwill: Never mind the inmates at the MSNBC asylum, I still cannot get over Jan Crawford of CBS admitting openly on Twitter that when Romney made the joke, the audience cheered and laughed, and THE MEDIA GASPED! (caps mine, not hers)

Quelle horreur!

[daddy]

Corsi wants to know where they keep the WhiteHouse bong. Ha!

[Threadkiller]

♬ Ohhh, the bare technicalities the simple bare technicalities..♬

As Briefed in Kerchner et al v Obama et al in Jan 2009 The Commission on Presidential Debates MUST determine that all of the candidates are Natural Born Citizens. They did not do their vetting job in 2008. We are going to insist they do so in 2012. See below for the rules and regulations as to whom can be admitted to the Presidential Debates.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/08/commission-on-presidential-debates.html?m=1

B. 2012 NONPARTISAN SELECTION CRITERIA

The CPD’s nonpartisan criteria for selecting candidates to participate in the 2012 general election presidential debates are:
1. EVIDENCE OF CONSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY

The CPD’s first criterion requires satisfaction of the eligibility requirements of Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. The requirements are satisfied if the candidate
a. is at least 35 years of age;

b. is a Natural Born Citizen of the United States and a resident of the United States for fourteen years; and

c. is otherwise eligible under the Constitution

http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=candidate-selection-process

[Threadkiller]

Happy Birtherday ChaCo!!

:-)

[NK]

derwill@3:49 is also en fuego. Well done sir/madame.

[MarkO]

"The basest, most despicable bigotry we might be able to imagine!!!!"

They really do lack imagination.

[narciso]

Happy birthday, Chaco.

[NK]

They really can't take the mocking; just wait until after the conventions when the ridicule-- ALL TRUE BTW -- starts, as derwill, says Legacy Media heads will spontaneously combust. No this is not 2008! http://washingtonexaminer.com/msnbc-romney-joke-the-most-despicable-bigotry-we-can-imagine/article/2505847?custom_click=rss

[Jim Eagle]

Regarding birther sentimentality, today on the radio, while doing errands, I had Boortz on and he had Denish D'Souza as his guest. Talking about another leg in the stool of of Obama's Marxist/Revolutionary corruption. A guy named Unger - didn't catch the first name but he evidently was at HLS and pulled his name out of any relationship to the 08 campaign since he was politically radio-active. Perhaps narciso knows of whom I talk?

But then D'Souza explained his relationship to George Obama and that George is actually a conservative (in a Kenyan way) and further went on to discuss how there is another half Brother named Mark who has a BS in Physics and an MBA and works in China. Like Obama's Kenyan grandfather and his white grandmother he has thrown Mark and George under the bus for being non-revolutionary or something like that. I guess you need to get D'Souza's new book "Obama's America" which seems to be an expansion of the movie. But I think D'Souza and Cashill have him pegged right down to the hair on his ass.

[Stephanie Cutter]

Obama created more jobs than the Reagan recovery!!

!1!111Eleventy!11!!

[Ignatz]

--derwill@3:49 is also en fuego. Well done sir/madame.--

[Clarice]

Mark is non revolutionary. He's very smart. His mother came from a wealthy family and she left Obama cause he beat her. Mark hates his father and cannot understand Barack's swooning over him.

[narciso]

Roberto de Unger, one of the founders of CLS,
at Harvard Law, who is nonetheless cross at him, because he didn't 'fundamentally transform the country' enough

[Ignatz]

-- A guy named Unger - didn't catch the first name but he evidently was at HLS and pulled his name out of any relationship to the 08 campaign since he was politically radio-active.--

Felix? Can't blame Barry on that one; the guy was unbearable.

[lyle]

Turns out the "have you no decency Obama press camp" is a little short on decency.

[narciso]

This fellow, mentioned earlier;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChhIpXBztA

[Ignatz]

--Mark is non revolutionary. He's very smart. His mother came from a wealthy family and she left Obama cause he beat her. Mark hates his father and cannot understand Barack's swooning over him.

Posted by: Clarice | August 24, 2012 at 04:14 PM--

I think the first sentence explains the last, clarice.

[narciso]

From his wiki;

Unger has taught at the Harvard Law School for all of his adult life. He became the youngest tenured faculty at the law school in 1976, and has since instructed many of the world elite, including Barack Obama, who took "Jurisprudence" and "Reinventing Democracy" with Unger.[12][13] He offers classes only in the spring semester on subjects covering everything from the history of religious thought to programmatic solutions to the present day economic crisis.[14]

At the root of Unger’s thought is the conviction that the world is made and imagined. His work begins from the premise that there are no natural social, political, or economic arrangements that underlie individual or social behavior. Property rights, liberal democracy, wage labor—these are all historical artifacts that have no necessary relation to the goals of free and prosperous human activity.

[Captain Hate]

Mark hates his father and cannot understand Barack's swooning over him.

Mark's mother probably wasn't a nymphomaniac who abandoned him.

[NK]

RSE-- Unger @HLS-- well there's your education problem right there: "Unger has taught at the Harvard Law School for all of his adult life. He became the youngest tenured faculty at the law school in 1976, and has since instructed many of the world elite, including Barack Obama, who took "Jurisprudence" and "Reinventing Democracy" with Unger.[12][13"

[Clarice]

Another luftmensch in other words, naciso.

And here's the story line the losers will use after the election:http://freebeacon.com/the-biggest-myth-of-2012/print/#Print

[Janet]

Happy Birthday, Chaco!

[narciso]

You see the nature of the problem,